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Albert de Chiny I
- Preferred Name: Albert de Chiny I[1] [2]
- Gender: M
- Burial: in Saint Manehulde, Frankrijk at LATI: N6 LONG: E0 with note: GEDCOM data
- Comte de Chiny: 1098 with note: GEDCOM data
- Occupation: Evêque de Liège1135 in Liège, Holy Roman Empire at LATI: N0.627 LONG: E0.5846
- Death: 29 SEP 1162 in Liege, Lotharingia, Holy Roman Empire at LATI: N0.627 LONG: E0.5846
- FSID: G3WN-Q7L
- Birth: 1098 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgium at LATI: N9.7386 LONG: E0.3415
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
ALBERT de Chiny, son of OTTO [II] Comte de Chiny & his wife Alix de Namur (-29 Sep 1162, bur Orval). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugo et comes Albertus et Fredericus Remensis ecclesie prepositus" as sons of "Ottonem comitem [de Cinni]"[622]. The estimated date of Albert’s marriage ([1140]) suggests that he was considerably younger than his sister Ida (whose marriage is dated to [1105]). Is it possible that they were born from different mothers? The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Albertus" as son of "comes Otto de Cisneio" and his wife Alix[623]. "Arnulfus…comes" founded the priory of Sainte-Valpurge at Chiny, confirmed by "filiorum meorum Ottonis et Ludovici, nurus…meæ Adeleid", by charter dated 1097, later confirmed by "Ottonis comitis et Frederici præpositi Remensis et Alberti comitis filiorum eius et Adadis comitissæ et Guillelmi avocati"[624]. A charter dated 30 Sep 1124 notifies the consecration of the church of Orval, in the presence of “Otto comes de Cisney cum sua uxore Adelada et filiis suis...Frederico Remensis ecclesiæ præposito et Alberto post patrem comite”[625]. Comte de Chiny. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[626]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "avus eius [Ludovici…comes de Cisneio] Albertus comes" was buried "in Aureavalle"[627]. The necrology of Orval records the death “III Kal Oct” of “Albertus comes de Chiney qui adduxit in conventum Cisterciensem” and his donation of property “in Sabulo”[628].
m ([1140]) AGNES de Bar, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-after 1185). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agenete sorore eiusdem comitis [=comes Barri iunior Raymaldus" specifying that she was mother of "episcopus Vidunensis Arnulfus de Cisneio"[629]. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[630]. “Agnes...comitissa de Chisnei...coram filiis meis Lodovico et Theodorico” attested that “dominus Cono senior de Hons” had donated “usuaria nemoris Bellonis Campaniæ“ to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made “per manum meam et mariti mei piæ memoriæ comitis Alberti” with the consent of “piæ memoriæ Symonis ducis Lotaringiæ” from whom Cono held half of the property, by charter dated 1172[631]. "Anetis comitissa de Chinei" donated part of the forest of Blanchampagne to the church of Moulins, for the soul of "domini Alberti comitis", by charter dated to [1185] which names "filios meos heredes, maxime Ludovicum et Teodericum"[632].
Albert & his wife had eight children:
1. LOUIS [III] (-Belgrade [5 Aug] 1189).
2. THIERRY (-after 1207).
3. ARNOUL (-killed Sainte-Ménehould 14 Aug 1181, bur Verdun Notre-Dame).
4. ALIX (-9 Aug, after 1177, bur Brogne Abbey).
5. IDA .
6. daughter .
7. HUGUES .
8. daughter .
=== !#552-v7-t42; ===
!#552-v7-t42;
=== count of Chiny, died 29 September no lat ===
count of Chiny, died 29 September no later than 1162
=== #Générale# Comte de Chigny. ===
#Générale# Comte de Chigny.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Otto Count of Chiny II, b. 1065 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgique d. 28 MAR 1125 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Région Wallonne, Belgium
Mother: Adelaide of Namur , b. 1066 in Oizy, Namur, Belgique d. 30 SEP 1124 in Luxembourg, Luxembourg
Family 1: Agnes de Bar, b. 29 SEP 1118 in France d. 1185 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgium
- m. 1140 in Chiny, Flemish Brabant, Kingdom of France
- Ida de Chiny, b. 1142 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgium d. 1206 in Aspremont, Verdun-sur-Meuse France
- Louis de Chiny III, b. 1141 in Luxemburg, Holy Roman Empire d. 10 AUG 1189 in Namur, Belgique
Sources:
- Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Author: Citations [S5255] Unknown author, Europaische Stammtafeln by Isenburg, chart 42. [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. I/2, Tafel 227. [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. XXVII, Tafel 6. [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. XXVI, Tafel 59. [S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. III, Tafel 628. [S11600] 40000 Ancestors of the Counts of Paris, Person 32-301.
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p902.htm#i27082;
Note: Albert, Count of Chiny1,2
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #27082, d. 29 September 1162
Father Otto II, Count of Chiny & Warcq d. Mar 1131
Mother Alix (Adelaide) de Namur b. 1068, d. a 1124
Charts Some Descendants of Charlemagne
Albert, Count of Chiny married Agnes von Bar, daughter of Renaud I, Count of Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Brie, & Verdun and Gisela of Vaudemont, circa 1140.2,3 Albert, Count of Chiny died on 29 September 1162.2
Family
Agnes von Bar d. a 1185
Children [4 sons; 3 daughters]
Ludwig III, Count of Chiny, Seigneur d'Orgeo+4 d. 10 Aug 1189
Ida von Chiny+4,3 d. 17 Oct
Alix de Chiny+5,4
Thierry de Melier, Seigneur de Melier, d'Etalle, & de Neufchateau+ d. a 1207
(Miss) de Chiny+6
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[Arnoul] -not shown in this source
[Hugues -not shown in this source
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#AlbertChinydied1162A;
Note: ALBERT de Chiny, son of OTTO [II] Comte de Chiny & his wife Alix de Namur (-29 Sep 1162, bur Orval). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugo et comes Albertus et Fredericus Remensis ecclesie prepositus" as sons of "Ottonem comitem [de Cinni]"[622]. The estimated date of Albert’s marriage ([1140]) suggests that he was considerably younger than his sister Ida (whose marriage is dated to [1105]). Is it possible that they were born from different mothers? The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Albertus" as son of "comes Otto de Cisneio" and his wife Alix[623]. "Arnulfus…comes" founded the priory of Sainte-Valpurge at Chiny, confirmed by "filiorum meorum Ottonis et Ludovici, nurus…meæ Adeleid", by charter dated 1097, later confirmed by "Ottonis comitis et Frederici præpositi Remensis et Alberti comitis filiorum eius et Adadis comitissæ et Guillelmi avocati"[624]. A charter dated 30 Sep 1124 notifies the consecration of the church of Orval, in the presence of “Otto comes de Cisney cum sua uxore Adelada et filiis suis...Frederico Remensis ecclesiæ præposito et Alberto post patrem comite”[625]. Comte de Chiny. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[626]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "avus eius [Ludovici…comes de Cisneio] Albertus comes" was buried "in Aureavalle"[627]. The necrology of Orval records the death “III Kal Oct” of “Albertus comes de Chiney qui adduxit in conventum Cisterciensem” and his donation of property “in Sabulo”[628].
m ([1140]) AGNES de Bar, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-after 1185). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agenete sorore eiusdem comitis [=comes Barri iunior Raymaldus" specifying that she was mother of "episcopus Vidunensis Arnulfus de Cisneio"[629]. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[630]. “Agnes...comitissa de Chisnei...coram filiis meis Lodovico et Theodorico” attested that “dominus Cono senior de Hons” had donated “usuaria nemoris Bellonis Campaniæ“ to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made “per manum meam et mariti mei piæ memoriæ comitis Alberti” with the consent of “piæ memoriæ Symonis ducis Lotaringiæ” from whom Cono held half of the property, by charter dated 1172[631]. "Anetis comitissa de Chinei" donated part of the forest of Blanchampagne to the church of Moulins, for the soul of "domini Alberti comitis", by charter dated to [1185] which names "filios meos heredes, maxime Ludovicum et Teodericum"[632].
Albert & his wife had eight children:
1. LOUIS [III] (-Belgrade [5 Aug] 1189).
2. THIERRY (-after 1207).
3. ARNOUL (-killed Sainte-Ménehould 14 Aug 1181, bur Verdun Notre-Dame).
4. ALIX (-9 Aug, after 1177, bur Brogne Abbey).
5. IDA .
6. daughter .
7. HUGUES .
8. daughter .
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