Theodoric de Lorraine II

• Preferred Name: Theodoric de Lorraine II^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: LKPF-K3S
  
• Death: 30 DEC 1115
  
• Birth: 6 MAR 1044 in Holy Roman Empire at LATI: N9.5 LONG: E0
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Herzog von LothringenBET 1070 AND 1115
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Theodoric II (died 30 December 1115), called the Valiant, was the duke of Lorraine from 1070 to his death. He was the son and successor of Gerhard and Hedwige of Namur. He is sometimes numbered Theodoric I if the dukes of the House of Ardennes, who ruled in Upper Lorraine from 959 to 1033, are ignored in favour of the dukes of Lower Lorraine as predecessors of the later dukes of Lorraine.
  
  In fact, Sophia, the daughter of Duke Frederick II of the House of Ardennes, who had inherited the counties of Bar and Montbéliard, had a husband named Louis, who contested the succession. In order to receive the support of his brother, Theodoric gave his brother the County of Vaudémont and convened an assembly of nobles, who elected him duke over Louis. Soon Louis was dead, but his son, Theodoric II of Bar, claimed the succession anyway. However, Emperor Henry IV confirmed Theodoric the Valiant in the duchy. Probably for this reason, Theodoric remained faithful to the emperors throughout his rule. He fought the Saxons while they were at war with the Emperor between 1070 and 1078 and he opposed the popes Gregory VII and Urban II when they were in conflict with the Emperor.
  
  In 1095, he planned to take up the Cross (i.e., go on Crusade, specifically the First), but his ill health provoked him to drop out, nevertheless convincing his barons to go east. Thereafter, he took little part in imperial affairs, preferring not to intervene between Henry IV and his son Henry, or against Lothair of Supplinburg, duke of Saxony.
  
  «b»Marriage and children«/b»
  His first wife was Hedwige (died 1085 or 1090), daughter of Frederick, count of Formbach. They married around 1075 and had the following issue:
  
  1.) Simon (1076-1138), his successor as Duke of Lorraine, married to Adelaide of Leuven (d. 1158), daughter of his stepmother Gertrude and Henry III, Count of Leuven.
  
  2.) Gertrude (died 1144), married Floris II of Holland
  
  His second wife was Gertrude of Flanders (1080-1117), daughter of Robert I of Flanders and Gertrude of Saxony. She was the widow of Henry III, Count of Leuven (d. 1095), with four daughters. They married in 1096 and had the following issue:
  
  1.) Thierry of Alsace "Theodoric" (c.?1099-1168), lord of Bitche and also Count of Flanders from 1128. Married to Sibylla of Anjou, and father to Margaret I, Countess of Flanders and Matthew, Count of Boulogne
  
  2.) Henry I (died 1165), bishop of Toul
  
  3.) Ida, married Sigefroy (died 1104), count of Burghausen
  
  4.) Ermengarde, married Bernard de Brancion
  
  5.) Gisela, married Frederick, count of Saarbrücken
  
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  Diederik werd graaf van de Elzas en van Bouzonville, alsook voogd van de abdij van Remiremont en vanaf 1070 hertog van Opper-Lotharingen. Dit leidde tot een conflict met zijn jongere broer Gerard die
  
  === He is also known as Theodore I "The Vali ===
  He is also known as Theodore I "The Valiant" as well as Didrick .
  
  === !TITLE: Duke of Alsace and Lorraine ===
  !TITLE: Duke of Alsace and Lorraine
  
  === Son of Gerhard IV, Count of Alsace, and ===
  Son of Gerhard IV, Count of Alsace, and Edith of Namur; m. Hedwig von Formbach; father of Simon I, duke of Lorraine. [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 2926b, 3382c]
  
  Duke of Upper Lorraine; son of Gerhard IV, Count of Alsace, and Hedwig/Edwige of Namur; m. Hedwig of Formbach; father of dau. who m. Lambert de Montaigu; father of Simon, Duke of Lorraine; father of Gertrud of Upper Lorraine who m. Florent II of Holland; m.2, 1095/6, Gertrude of Flanders and was father of Thierry/Dietrich of Alsace and Gisela of Lorraine. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD#100]
  
  !Grandfather of Margaret I of Flanders. [Ped. of Charlemagne, Vol. I, p. 277]
  
  Duke of Lorraine; m.2 Gertrude of Flanders; father of Thierry of Lorraine, Count of Flanders; son of Gerard/Gerhard IV, Duke of Lorraine/Count of Alsace, and Edith/Hedwig of Namur, Duchess of Lorraine. [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 2921b]
  
  Son of Gerhard III Count of Alsace Lorraine and Hedwig de Namur; m. Hedwig von Formbach; father of:
  1. Petronille who m. Floris II, Count of Holland
  2. Simon I, Duke of Lorraine, who m. Adelaide
  3. Gisela who m. Frederick I, Count of Saarbrucken
  [Jack Kelley
  b. 1056, d. 1114/15; son of Duke Gerhard III of Lothringin and Princess Hedwig of Namur; m. Princess Hedwig of Formbach; father of:
  1. Oda
  2. Gertrude who m. Florenz II of Holland
  3. Simon I who m. Adele of Löwen
  [Ken Stelmaszek
  === !SOURCE: "Royal Ancestors," PC #316. ===
  !SOURCE: "Royal Ancestors," PC #316.
  
  === Biography ===
  Theodoric II (died 30 December 1115), called the Valiant, was the Duke of Lorraine from 1070 to his death.[1] He was the son and successor of Gerhard and Hedwige of Namur. He is sometimes numbered Theodoric I if the Dukes of the House of Ardennes, who ruled in Upper Lorraine from 959 to 1033, are ignored in favour of the dukes of Lower Lorraine as predecessors of the later Dukes of Lorraine.
  
  In 1095, he planned to take up the Cross (i.e., go on Crusade, specifically the First), but his ill health provoked him to drop out, nevertheless convincing his barons to go east. Thereafter, he took little part in imperial affairs, preferring not to intervene between Henry IV and his son Henry, or against Lothair of Supplinburg, duke of Saxony.
  
  === !Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families b ===
  !Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families by Michel L. Call, Ch art 316 - # 20 .
  
  === !Thierry II d'Alsace md (2) Gertrude de ===
  !Thierry II d'Alsace md (2) Gertrude de Flandre. !Royal Ancestors of Some American Families by Michel Call SLC 1989 #316, 664; !NAME-SPOUSE-CHILDREN-FATHER-DEATH-BURIAL: ROYALTY FOR COMMONERS; Roderick W. Stuart; 2nd Edition; Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc. Published 1988, 1992; 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, Maryland 21202; Library of Congress Catalouge Card Number 92-71395; Notes: Dietrich II of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lorraine; died 23 Jan 1115; he was buried at Chatenois, in Upper Lorraine he married 1stly in about 1075, Hedwig von Formbach, born about 1056; she died 1085-1090; she had married 1stly Gebhard, Count of Supplinburg, in the Herzgau who was slain 9 May 1075; Dietrich II, married 2ndly in 1095/1076, Gertrude heiress of Flanders; Dietrich II of Alsace and Hedwig von Formbach, are the parents of Simon I of Alsace, who married to Adelaide of Lorraine, who died about 1158, a nun, at Tart; she was perhaps the daughter of Baldwin II, Count of Hainault. She married to Simon I, of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lorraine, Lord of Bitsch; he founded the Abbey at Sturzelbronn, in 1135; born about 1076; he died 13 January 1138;
  
  === Weis. 164-24, 167-23. Thierry II (also ===
  Weis. 164-24, 167-23. Thierry II (also called Dietrich) was Count of Montbellard and Bar-le-Duc, and Duke of Lorraine.
  
  === Duke of Alsace Lorranine ===
  Duke of Alsace Lorranine
  
  === de Lorraine, Thierry II, Duke of Lorrain ===
  de Lorraine, Thierry II, Duke of Lorraine Acceded: 1070 Died: 23 JAN 1115 Father: de Lorraine, Gerard, Duke of Lorraine Married to von Formbach, Hedwig Child 1: de Lorraine, Simon I, Duke of Lorraine Married to , Gertrude of Flanders Child 2: de Lorraine, Thierry of Alsace, Count of Flanders
  
  === https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodoric_II,_Duke_of_Lorraine ===
  Kessler, P L. "Kingdoms of France - Lotharingia / Lorraine". www.historyfiles.co.uk. Retrieved 2016-11-12.
  
  === !Brown book 5, P C 163, 396. Also sp: Th ===
  !Brown book 5, P C 163, 396. Also sp: Thierri; Therrlory. Count of Flanders. D'Alsace.
  
  === Alt. Spelling; Thierr II d' Alsace ===
  Alt. Spelling; Thierr II d' Alsace
  
  === My PAF Notes ===
  from thepeerage.com, 2/2009:
  Thierry II, Comte de Lorraine1
  M, #42442, d. 1115
  Thierry II, Comte de Lorraine|d. 1115|p4245.htm#i42442|Gerard, Duc de Lorraine|d. 1070|p15067.htm#i150670|Hedwig de Nemours|b. 1000\nd. 1075|p22868.htm#i228672|Gerard Graf von Metz|d. 1045|p15068.htm#i150671|Gisela (?)||p22867.htm#i228668|||||||
  Last Edited=12 Nov 2008
  Thierry II, Comte de Lorraine was the son of Gerard, Duc de Lorraine and Hedwig de Nemours .1,2 He married, firstly, Hedwig of Formbach in 1075.2 He married, secondly, Gertrude de Flandre, daughter of Robert I, Comte de Flandre and Gertrud von Sachsen , circa 1095/96.2 He died in 1115.1
  Thierry II, Comte de Lorraine succeeded to the title of Comte de Lorraine in 1070.1
  Children of Thierry II, Comte de Lorraine and Hedwig of Formbach
  Simon I, Duc de Lorraine + d. 11381
  Gertrude de Lorraine b. 1086, d. 11442
  Child of Thierry II, Comte de Lorraine and Gertrude de Flandre
  Thierry d'Alsace, Comte de Flandre + b. 1099, d. 1168
  Citations
  [S38 ] John Morby, Dynasties of the World: a chronological and genealogical handbook (Oxford, Oxfordshire, U.K.: Oxford University Press, 1989), page 128. Hereinafter cited as Dynasties of the World.
  [S130 ] Wikipedia, online www.wikipedia.org. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  
  === Herzog seit 1070. ===
  Herzog seit 1070.
  
  === !TITLE: Hertog of Opper-Lotheringen !REL ===
  !TITLE: Hertog of Opper-Lotheringen !REL: 26gg dau !INFO: Gens Nostra,
  
  === !Duke of Lorraine & Count of Alsatia. hr ===
  !Duke of Lorraine & Count of Alsatia. hrb !Duke of Lorraine & Count of Alsatia. hrb
  
  === wifes name Hedwig Von Formbach ===
  wifes name Hedwig Von Formbach
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.17, 21, 23, 26; THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.19, 20, 42, 200; STAMMTAFELIN ZURGESCHICHTE DER EUROPAISCHEN STAATEN (GS NUMBER 940 D22F) VOL 2 TAB 4; TABLEAUX GENEALOGIQUES DES SOUVERAINS DE LA FRANCE ET SEU GRANDS FEUDATAIRES (GS NUMBER 944 D22G) TAB 41; TABLETTES CHRONOLOGIQUES (GS NUMBER 944 D22T) VOL 2 P.108, 129; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
  
  === !Ancestral Roots, Line 167-23. ===
  !Ancestral Roots, Line 167-23.
  
  === Hertog van Opper-Lotharingen ===
  Hertog van Opper-Lotharingen

• m. 15 AUG 1095 in Han-sur-Lesse, Belgium

1. Thierry d'Alsace Count of Flanders, b. 23 JUN 1099 in Alsace, France     d. 17 JAN 1168 in Gravelines, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Kingdom of France
2. Gisela de Lorraine, b. 1090 in Lorraine, France     d. 1160 in Saarbrücken, Saarbrücken, Territoire du Bassin de la Sarre, Allemagne

• m. 1075 in Heiliges Römisches Reich (Present Germany)

1. Simon I de Grois De Haute Lorraine, b. ABT 1076 in Nancy, Lothringen, France, HRR     d. 13 JAN 1139 in Saint-Dié, Vosges, Lorraine, France

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3. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Thierry I (Dietricht I) Lorraine Duke - birth: about 1060; Lorraine, France
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6. Title: WIKIPEDIA: Theodoric II, Duke of Lorraine
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7. Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
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8. Title: Thierry I, Count of Flanders, and Sibylle d’Anjou in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#ThierryIdied1168A [See document in the Memories section]
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