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Floris Count of Holland II
- Preferred Name: Floris Count of Holland II[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Alternate Name: Florent of Holland II
- Gender: M
- Burial: in Egmond, North Holland, Netherlands at LATI: N2.6076 LONG: E0.6606 with note:
- Christening: in Holland at LATI: N2.33 LONG: E0.83 with note: myheritage
- FSID: GM2Z-NBR
- Birth: 26 JUL 1085 in Vlaardingen, South Holland, Netherlands at LATI: N1.9109 LONG: E0.3434 with note: ENGLISH
- Death: 2 MAR 1121 in Egmond, North Holland, Netherlands at LATI: N2.6076 LONG: E0.6606
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Floris II, Count of Holland (or Floris the Fat) (born ca. 1085 in Vlaardingen, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands; reigned 1091- March 2, 1121) was the first from the native dynasty of Holland to be called Count of Holland.
He was the son of his predecessor Dirk V and Othilde. Floris II ended the conflict with the Bishop of Utrecht (which he inherited from his father, and should be seen in light of the power struggle between the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor), most likely by becoming his vassal. In 1101 he was endowed with the title of Count of Holland by the bishop of Utrecht, after acquiring Rhineland (Leiden and surroundings) ('comes de Hollant', up until that time the counts' dominion had been officially referred to as Frisia).
Around 1108, Floris II married Gertrude, the daughter of Theodoric II, Duke of Lorraine. Gertrude changed her name to Petronilla (after a saint venerated as the daughter of Peter), in recognition of her loyalty to the Holy See. Petronilla and Floris II had four children, three boys and one girl: Dirk, Floris, Simon and Hedwig, respectively. Dirk became his successor, Dirk VI of Holland, while Floris became known as Floris the Black and contested his brother's power.
Generation 12 from Charlemagne
=== PAR MARR BEF 26 JUL 1083;ES 11:2;PED OF ===
PAR MARR BEF 26 JUL 1083;ES 11:2;PED OF A.H.AYERS
=== Bijgenaamd " de Vette" ===
Bijgenaamd " de Vette"
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
Floris II, called Floris the Fat, was the first from the native dynasty of Holland to be called Count of Holland, reigning from 1091 until his death.
=== Maakte een eind aan de strijd met Utrech ===
Maakte een eind aan de strijd met Utrecht, verschijnt 1101 voor heteerst met de titel 'Graaf van Holland' als leenman van de bisschop vanUtrecht.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
=== Line 16065 from GEDCOM File not recogniz ===
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=== Beroep Leenman van de Utrechtse
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Beroep Leenman van de Utrechtse
notitie Bisschop
de Vette van Holland, Graaf van Holland
Floris de Vette wordt vermeld van 1091-1121
=== !FTM Vol 11, tree #4329. ===
!FTM Vol 11, tree #4329.
=== Biography ===
Floris II, Count of Holland (reigned 1091—March 2, 1121) or Floris the Fat, was the first from the native dynasty of Holland to be called Count of Holland.
He was the son of his predecessor Dirk V and Othilde. Floris II ended the conflict with the Bishop of Utrecht (which he inherited from his father, and should be seen in light of the power struggle between the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor), most likely by becoming his vassal. In 1101 he was endowed with the title of Count of Holland by the bishop of Utrecht, after acquiring Rhineland (Leiden and surroundings) ('comes de Hollant', up until that time the counts' dominion had been officially referred to as Frisia).
=== !Florenz II (38-29), Count of Holland, m ===
!Florenz II (38-29), Count of Holland, md. Geretrude (Petronel) of Alsace, dau of Dietrich II (158-31), Duke of Upper Lorraine, and Hedwig von Formbach (41-32). ["Royalty for Commoners" by Stewart, line 399-30.] !Florenz II "the Fat," Count of Holland, 1101; b. c1080/84; d. 2 Mar 1121; md c1113 Gergrude (Petronel) of Alsace, d. 23 May 1144; dau of Dietrich II of Alsace (158-31), Duke of Upper Lorraine; and Gertrude (205-31), heiress of Flanders. ["Royalty for Commoners" by Stewart, line 38-29.]
=== M L Call: Cht 11869 ===
M L Call: Cht 11869
=== !GENERAL:Pedigree Resource File CD 4, Pe ===
!GENERAL:Pedigree Resource File CD 4, Pedigree Resource File CD 4, (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 1999) !GENERAL:Pedigree Resource File CD 4, Pedigree Resource File CD 4, (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 1999)
=== ! ! IGI 1994 Edition. ! RELATIONSHIP: P ===
! ! IGI 1994 Edition. ! RELATIONSHIP: Patron, H. Reed Black, is 25th G G Son.
=== Gf. v. Holland 1091, während seiner Zeit ===
Gf. v. Holland 1091, während seiner Zeit bildete sich die Zuidersee durch große Naturkatastrophen
=== Line 13532 from GEDCOM File not recogniz ===
Line 13532 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: TITL [DOMPROPST OF UTRECHT] Line 13547 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: SLGC DATE 25 NOG 1986 From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== 1 _UID D3416B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C ===
1 _UID D3416B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45CB405
=== Floris II 'de Vette' van HOLLAND, overle ===
Floris II 'de Vette' van HOLLAND, overleden op 02-03-1121, begraven te Egmond. Gehuwd circa 1108 met Petronilla van SAKSEN (VIII.2), geboren circa 1078, overleden op 23-05-1144, begraven te Rijnsburg, dochter van Dirk I enHedwig van FORMBACH. Uit dit huwelijk: 1. Dirk VI van HOLLAND (zie IX.1). 2. Floris 'de Zwarte' (IX.3), overleden 1133. 3. Simon (IX.4). 4. Hadewig (IX.5).
=== : NAME Floris II "De Vette" Count Of /HO ===
: NAME Floris II "De Vette" Count Of /HOLLAND/ !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints TITL Ancestral File(TM) PUBL June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 REPO @R01@
=== !#552-V2-T2; ===
!#552-V2-T2;
=== !BURIAL: Egmond,N.H.,Neth. !Title: Count ===
!BURIAL: Egmond,N.H.,Neth. !Title: Count van Holland, 1101 A.D., also Feudal Lord of the Bishop of Utrecht. !INFO: Gens Nostra 1990, p.375, Reeks 10/150, in possession of Ruth Ellis, St.Marys, Ont. !REL: 25gg dau
=== Line 171 from GEDCOM File not recognizab ===
Line 171 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Floris Count Of /HOLLAND/ GIVN Floris Count Of Line 172 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Floris Count Of /HOLLAND/ SURN HOLLAND Line 175 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: SOUR @S01@
=== Count of Holland, Netherlands ===
Count of Holland, Netherlands
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.21, 23, 26; THEPLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.20, 200; STAMMTAFELIN ZUR GESCHICHTEDER EUROPAISCHEN STAATEN (GS NUMBER 940 D22F) VOL 2 TAB 4;
=== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floris_II,_Count_of_Holland ===
Wessels, Johannes Willhelmus (1908). History of the Roman-Dutch Law. Cape Town: The African Book Company.
=== !Name,Bd(also <1055),pla,parents,Spouse, ===
!Name,Bd(also <1055),pla,parents,Spouse,Md,pla,Bap,End,SP,SS-IGI,addendum 2002
=== Ancestral File Number: 7Z11-0G ===
Ancestral File Number: 7Z11-0G
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== 1 _UID B5426B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C ===
1 _UID B5426B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C9734
=== !Ancestral File 1996 ===
!Ancestral File 1996
=== --Other Fields ®64 ===
--Other Fields ®64
=== Sources: RC 38; Kraentzler 1259; AF. RC ===
Sources: RC 38; Kraentzler 1259; AF. RC and K: Florenz II, "The Fat." Count of Holland, 1101.
=== My PAF Notes ===
from thepeerage.com, 3/2009:
Florent II, Comte de Hollande1
M, #150480, d. 1121
Florent II, Comte de Hollande|d. 1121|p15048.htm#i150480|Dirk V, Comte de Hollande|d. 1091|p15049.htm#i150481||||Florent I., Comte de Hollande|d. 1061|p11359.htm#i113584||||||||||
Last Edited=15 Apr 2007
Florent II, Comte de Hollande was the son of Dirk V, Comte de Hollande .1 He married Gertrude de Lorraine , daughter of Thierry II, Comte de Lorraine and Hedwig of Formbach , in 1113.2 He died in 1121.1
Florent II, Comte de Hollande also went by the nick-name of Florent 'le Gros' (?) (or in English, 'the Fat').1 He succeeded to the title of Comte de Hollande in 1091.1
Child of Florent II, Comte de Hollande
Dirk VI, Comte de Hollande + d. 11571
Citations
[S38 ] John Morby, Dynasties of the World: a chronological and genealogical handbook (Oxford, Oxfordshire, U.K.: Oxford University Press, 1989), page 91. Hereinafter cited as Dynasties of the World.
[S130 ] Wikipedia, online www.wikipedia.org. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
=== Name Suffix: II Ancestral File Num ===
Name Suffix: II Ancestral File Number: 7Z0Z-TJ
=== !Count of Holland & Zealand in 1091 !Cou ===
!Count of Holland & Zealand in 1091 !Count of Holland & Zealand in 1091
=== : TITL DOMPROPST OF UTRECHT !: SOUR AUTH ===
: TITL DOMPROPST OF UTRECHT !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints TITL Ancestral File(TM) PUBL June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 REPO @R01@
=== !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat ===
!NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
Preferred Parents:
Father: Dirk Count of Holland V, b. 1051 in Vlaardingen, Zuid-Holland, Nederland d. 17 JUN 1091 in Egmond, North Holland, Netherlands
Mother: Othelhilde , b. 1054 in Vlaardingen, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands d. 18 NOV 1120 in Egmond-Binnen,Netherlands.
Family 1: Petronilla of Lorraine , b. 1082 d. 23 MAY 1144 in Rijnsburg, South Holland, Netherlands
- m. 1099 in Vlaardingen, Zuid-Holland, Nederland
- Dirk Count of Holland VI, b. 1114 in The Hague, Holland, Netherlands d. 5 AUG 1157 in Amersfoort, Utrecht, Netherlands
- Hadewich van Holland en Zeeland, b. 1103 d. 11 OCT 1157 in Rijnsburg, South Holland, Netherlands
Sources:
- Title: https://www.geni.com/people/Graaf-Floris-II-van-Holland/6000000011260547938
- Title: Floris II, Count of Holland
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floris_II,_Count_of_Holland;
- Title: Floris II of Holland, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLW-SF5S : 8 August 2020), Floris II of Holland, ; Burial, Rijnsburg, Katwijk Municipality, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands, Abdij van Rijnsburg; citing record ID 89761357, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLW-SF5S;
- Title: Biografisch Portaal van Nederland: Floris II
Publication: Name: http://www.biografischportaal.nl/persoon/34555698;
- Title: Floris Ii, Graaf van Holland
Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10838-27404191/floris-ii-graaf-van-holland-in-genealogieonline-family-tree-index?fspid=GHHC-MYY;
- Title: Overlijden
Publication: Name: http://johnooms.nl/graven-en-gravinnen/graven-van-holland-2/graven-van-holland/;
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