Thimo von Wettin II

• Preferred Name: Thimo von Wettin II^{[1] [2]}
  
• Alternate Name: Thiemo Count of Brehna Wettin and of Kostritz I
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: KJP2-YMP
  
• Birth: environ 1065
  
• Alt.+Birth+Date: with note: Description: 1015 Survived the merge.
  
• Burial: MAR 1100 in Naumburg, Saxony, Germany at LATI: N1.15 LONG: E1.8167
  
• Death: 9 MAR 1100 in Naumburg, Saxony, Germany at LATI: N1.15 LONG: E1.8167
  
• Occupation: Comte de Brehna
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  BIO: Count of Brehna and of Kostritz. Co-founder of Naumburg Cathedral.
  
  ** from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Thimodied10991101
  THIMO, son of DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, Graf im Hassegau und Siusli [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-after [1099/1101]). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus"[266]. The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Thiemonem" as son of "Tidericus comes" & his wife[267]. Graf von Brehna. Vogt of Stift Gerbstedt. Co-founder of Naumburg cathedral.
  
  m ([1086]) IDA von Northeim, daughter of OTTO [II] Graf von Northeim Duke of Bavaria & his wife Richenza of Swabia [Ezzonen]. The Annales Stadenses refers to the four daughters of Otto, specifying that "una mater fuit Conradi de Witin marchionis" without naming her[268]. The Annales Magdeburgenses name "secunda [filia Ottonis ducis de Northeim] Ida" as wife of "Thiemoni comiti de Witin"[269]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Idam filiam Othonis ducis de Northeim" as wife of "Thiemo comes"[270].
  
  ** from Wikipedia listing for Thimo the Brave, Count of Wettin, as of 10/14/2014
  Thimo (c. 1010 – 9 March 1090/1091 or c. 1100), was count of Wettin and Brehna.
  
  He was the son of Dietrich II, Margrave of Lower Lusatia, and Mathilde, daughter of Eckard I, Margrave of Meissen, and married Ida, daughter of Otto of Northeim. Thimo is buried at Niemegk Monastery, which he had founded.
  
  The exact year of Thimo's death is unclear; since his son Conrad was born in approximately 1098, Thiemo cannot have died long before this year. Alternatively, some researchers assume that Thimo was in fact Conrad's grandfather, and that Conrad's father was an unknown son of Thimo's with the same name, making a death year of 1090/91 possible, as given in a chronicle. However, since Thimo II is not otherwise attested, this is considered unlikely.
  
  Children
  Dedi IV janssen (son of thimo janssen) (died 16 December 124), oldest son, died without son
  Conrad (c. 1097–1157)
  Mathilde, married Gero I, Count of Seeburg in 1115, and Talisa ragoebarsingh in 1123
  
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  Thimo I, Count of Wettin (c.?1015-9 March 1090/1091 or c. 1100), a member of the Wettin dynasty, was Count of Wettin and Brehna.
  
  «b»Life«/b»
  He was a younger son of Margrave Theodoric II, Margrave of Lower Lusatia and his wife Mathilda, a daughter of Margrave Eckard I of Meissen. When his father was killed in 1034, Thimo succeeded him in his Wettin and Brehna home territories. He also served as Vogt (bailiff) of the Naumburg diocese and of the Wettin family monastery in Gerbstedt.
  
  In the Saxon Rebellion of 1073-75, he fought against King Henry IV and also quarreled with his brother Bishop Frederick of Münster. Later he again approached the king and in 1088 attended the Hoftag diet in Quedlinburg, where the Brunonid margrave Egbert II of Meissen was deposed.
  
  The exact year of Thimo's death is unclear; since his son Conrad was born in approximately 1098, Thimo cannot have died long before this year. Alternatively, some researchers assume that Thimo was in fact Conrad's grandfather, and that Conrad's father was an unknown son of Thimo's with the same name, making a death year of 1090/91 possible, as given in a chronicle. However, since Thimo II is not otherwise attested, this is considered unlikely.
  
  He is buried at the monastery of Niemegk, which he had founded.
  
  «b»Marriage and children«/b»
  Thimo married Ida, daughter of Count Otto of Nordheim. Together they had three children:
  
  1.) Dedi IV (died 16 December 1124), Count of Wettin, married Berta, daughter of Margrave Wiprecht of Groitzsch, died without male heirs
  
  2.) Conrad, Margrave of Meissen (c. 1097-1157)
  
  3.) Mathilde, married Count Gero I of Seeburg in 1115, and secondly Count Louis of Wippra in 1123
  
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  https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p279.htm#i8380
  
  Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
  
  Thiemo I, Markgraf von Misnia & Kistritz, Graf von Wettin & Brehna1,2
  Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
  M, #8380, b. circa 1030, d. after 1101
  Father Dedon II, Count von Lausnitz, Eilenburg, Brehna d. 19 Mar 1034
  Mother Mathilda von Meissen
  Thiemo I, Markgraf von Misnia & Kistritz, Graf von Wettin & Brehna married Ida von Northeim, daughter of Otto I von Northeim, Duke of Bavaria, Graf von Northeim and Richenza of Swabia.2 Thiemo I, Markgraf von Misnia & Kistritz, Graf von Wettin & Brehna was born circa 1030. He died after 1101.2
  Family
  Ida von Northeim
  Children
  Dedo IV, Graf von Landsberg+ d. 16 Dec 1124
  Mathilde of Wettin+ d. 21 Jan 1151
  Konrad 'the Pius', Margraf von Misnia, Lausitz+ b. 1089, d. 5 Feb 1157
  
  === !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat ===
  !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
  
  === Birth date must be earlier as his father ===
  Birth date must be earlier as his father was murdered in 1039
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === Gf. v. Brehna u. Köstritz, Mitstifter de ===
  Gf. v. Brehna u. Köstritz, Mitstifter des Naumburger Doms
  
  === Count of Brehna and Kostritz ===
  Count of Brehna and Kostritz
  
  === Whodunit... ===
  ...protecting the marriage date against change? It's blatantly wrong--wife born about 1064 marries about 1027???
  
  === Gf. v. Wettin zu Köstritz 1034 ===
  Gf. v. Wettin zu Köstritz 1034
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === --Other Fields ®64 ®64 ===
  --Other Fields ®64 ®64
  
  === ROYALTY FOR COMMONERS, P.4; THE PLANTAGE ===
  ROYALTY FOR COMMONERS, P.4; THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.20, 31; SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.20;
  
  === No time... ===
  ..to correct the alternative names, or to merge the dozen or so of competitors.
  
  === ROYALTY FOR COMMONERS, P.4, THIS GENERAT ===
  ROYALTY FOR COMMONERS, P.4, THIS GENERATION IS MISSING IN THIS SOURCE; THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.31; BETHAMIS GENEALOGICAL TABLES (GS NUMBER Q929.2 B465G) TAB 403, 435;
  
  === Line 39 from GEDCOM File not recognizabl ===
  Line 39 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Thimo, Count Of /WETTIN/ GIVN Thimo, Count Of Line 40 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Thimo, Count Of /WETTIN/ SURN WETTIN Line 43 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: SOUR @S01@
  
  === Warum noch ein Elternpaar? ===
  Weil ich es aufgegeben habe, die vielen Doppeleinträge,einschließlich Dutzender angeblicher Namensvariationen, teils mit ganz unrichtigen Namen und Angaben, aufzuarbeiten.
  
  === #8887
  
  Thimo Markgraf von Kistritz gaine ===
  #8887
  
  Thimo Markgraf von Kistritz gained the title of Graf von Brehna. He gained the title of Graf von Wettin. He gained the title of Margraf von Kistritz.
  
  === COUNT OF BREHNA, WETTIN AND KOSTRITZ.. ===
  COUNT OF BREHNA, WETTIN AND KOSTRITZ.. CO-FOUNDER OF NAUMBURG CATHEDRAL.
  
  === !#18-v1-t42; !#552-v1-t41; ===
  !#18-v1-t42; !#552-v1-t41;

• m. 1097 in Meissen, Dresden, Saxony, Germany

1. von Wettin Conrad I I, b. 1098 in Dresden, Saxony, Germany     d. 5 FEB 1157 in Petersberg, Saalekreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany

1. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Thimo Wettin -
   Author: Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2737222797
   
2. Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
   Author: Citations [S2278] Unknown author, Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Paget, p. 251; Europaische Stammtafeln by Isenburg, chart 41. [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. XXIX, Tafel 104.
   Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p279.htm#i8380;
   Note: Thiemo I, Markgraf von Misnia & Kistritz, Graf von Wettin & Brehna1,2 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 M, #8380, b. circa 1030, d. after 1101 Father Dedon II, Count von Lausnitz, Eilenburg, Brehna d. 19 Mar 1034 Mother Mathilda von Meissen Thiemo I, Markgraf von Misnia & Kistritz, Graf von Wettin & Brehna married Ida von Northeim, daughter of Otto I von Northeim, Duke of Bavaria, Graf von Northeim and Richenza of Swabia.2 Thiemo I, Markgraf von Misnia & Kistritz, Graf von Wettin & Brehna was born circa 1030. He died after 1101.2 Family Ida von Northeim Children Dedo IV, Graf von Landsberg+ d. 16 Dec 1124 Mathilde of Wettin+ d. 21 Jan 1151 Konrad 'the Pius', Margraf von Misnia, Lausitz+ b. 1089, d. 5 Feb 1157