Otto Count of Chiny II

• Preferred Name: Otto Count of Chiny II^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]}
  
• Alternate Name: Otto de Chiny Comte de Chiny II
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: GSW1-4MT
  
• Burial: 4 APR 1125 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgique at LATI: N9.7386 LONG: E0.3415
  
• Death: 28 MAR 1125 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Région Wallonne, Belgium at LATI: N9.7386 LONG: E0.3415
  
• Christening: in Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgique at LATI: N9.7386 LONG: E0.3415
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Count of Chiny1106 with note: Wikipedia
  
• Birth: 1065 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgique at LATI: N9.7386 LONG: E0.3415
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Otto II (1065-after 1131), Count of Chiny, son of Arnold I, Count of Chiny, and Adélaïs.
  
  He succeeded his father in 1106 and completed the construction of the Abbey of Orval that his father had started in 1070, installing the canons in 1124. The installation of a Cistercian community in Orval in 1131 marked his last appearance in any proceedings.
  
  He married Adelaide (Alix) (1068-1124), daughter of Albert III, Count of Namur and Ida of Saxony (widow of Frederick of Lower Lorraine), who gave birth to:
  
  1.) Ida (d. before 1125), married to Godfrey I, Count of Leuven
  
  2.) Oda (d. after 1134), married to Giselbert II, Count of Duras
  
  3.) Hugues, probably died young
  
  4.) Albert, Count of Chiny
  
  5.) Frederick, (d. after 1124), Provost at Reims from 1120
  
  6.) Adalbero II of Chiny-Namur (d. 26 March 1145), Bishop of Liège, 1135-1145
  
  7.) Eustache (d. after 1156), married to a daughter of Wiger de Waremme, Avoué of Liège Saint-Lambert and Hesbaye. His son Louis de Lumaine was also Avoué of Hesbaye.
  
  Ida (also known as Ida of Namur) and Godfrey (also known as Godfrey the Bearded, not to be confused with his the uncle of his father Henry II, Godfrey) were parents of Adeliza of Louvain, wife of Henry I, King of England. Oda's husband Gislebert was son of Otto, Count of Duras and therefore the grandson of Giselbert, the first Count of Looz, whose family would eventually be merged with the Counts of Chiny with the marriage of Otto's great-great granddaughter Jeanne, Countess of Chiny, with Arnold IV, Count of Looz.
  
  After his death, Otto was succeeded as Count of Chiny by his son Albert.
  
  === !AF ===
  !AF
  
  === Source: Kraentzler 1272; RC 65, 120; A. ===
  Source: Kraentzler 1272; RC 65, 120; A. Roots 149-22A; Young. RC: Otto II of Chiny, Count of Chiny. Died a monk, 28 March 1125. Roots: Otto II, Count of Chiny, died 1124-1131. Young: Odo II, Count of Chiny-Namur, died 1124-30.
  
  === [DAHLENJULY00.GED] 1. d. 1124-31. 2. Co ===
  [DAHLENJULY00.GED] 1. d. 1124-31. 2. Count of Chiny. 1. Count of Chiny. 2. d. 1124-1131. 3. Son of Arnold II of Warcq and Alix de Rameru.
  
  === r.Otto II, Count of Chiny, d. a monk, 28 ===
  r.Otto II, Count of Chiny, d. a monk, 28 Mar 1125; md (1) Ermengarde; md (2) Adelaide of Namur (120-31). f."Royalty for Commoners" by Stuart, line 65-32.
  
  === FTM Disc 1 Tree # 0986 ===
  FTM Disc 1 Tree # 0986
  
  === AKA: Otto II, Count of Chiny - Doc. Line ===
  AKA: Otto II, Count of Chiny - Doc. Line 149-22A CHILDREN: Of Otto II and Adelaide of Namur Ida De Chiny and De Namur - Doc. Line 149-22A DEATH: Date: 1124-31 - Doc. Line 149-22A MARRIAGE: Otto II and Adelaide of Namur - Doc. Line 149-224
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 92D7-SR ===
  Ancestral File Number: 92D7-SR
  
  === Name Suffix: Count of Chiny Ancest ===
  Name Suffix: Count of Chiny Ancestral File Number: 9HLT-35 !"RoyalAncestors" by Michel Call, chart # 11473.
  
  === als monnik ===
  als monnik
  
  === Count Otto II de Chiny, Count of Chiny ===
  Count Otto II de Chiny, Count of Chiny
  Also Known As:
  "Count of Namur"
  Birthdate:
  1065 (60)
  Birthplace:
  Chiny, Luxembourg, Région Wallonne, Belgium
  Death:
  March 28, 1125 (60)
  Chiny, Luxembourg, Région Walonne, Belgium
  Immediate Family:
  Son of Arnoul I de Warcq, comte de Chiny and Adélaïde Agnes de Ramerupt, dame de Montdidier
  Husband of Adélaïde de Namur
  Father of Ida van Leuven, de Namur; Albert I, count of Chiny; Alverade de Chiny; Eustache de Chiny and Arnold I de Chiny
  Brother of Alix de Chiny; Hedwige von Chiny; Clementia von Chiny; Beatrix von Chiny and Comte Louis II de Chiny
  Occupation:
  Comte de Chiny, Graaf van Chiny
  
  Managed by:
  James Fred Patin, Jr.
  Last Updated:
  May 23, 2018
  
  === !#552-v7-t42; ===
  !#552-v7-t42;
  
  === #Générale# Comte de Chiny, et de Namur d ===
  #Générale# Comte de Chiny, et de Namur du chef de safemme.
  
  === Gf. v. Chiny 1106-1125, ab 28.04.1125 Mö ===
  Gf. v. Chiny 1106-1125, ab 28.04.1125 Mönch, urk. 1097-1125, 1131 tot
  
  === CROUCH FAMILY HERITAGE ASSOCIATION "NANC ===
  CROUCH FAMILY HERITAGE ASSOCIATION "NANCES OF CORNWALL" BY MARTIN L NANCE 1970
  
  === !"Our Plafs Roots Are True" A Genealogy ===
  !"Our Plafs Roots Are True" A Genealogy of Kochert and Nieb Families, by Ethel Clift Philips, Published 1983. The information in the book is derived from church records of Rumbach and Family records. !Source is from "Neuhart Nobility", by Dennis Allen Kastens -1997. 1. He was Count of Chiny and was a monk on March 28, 1125.
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 9HLT-35 From ===
  Ancestral File Number: 9HLT-35 From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === vermeld in 1097. ===
  vermeld in 1097.
  
  === !Weis. 149-22A. ===
  !Weis. 149-22A.
  
  === 1. d. 1124-31. 2. Count of Chiny. 1. Cou ===
  1. d. 1124-31. 2. Count of Chiny. 1. Count of Chiny. 2. d. 1124-1131. 3. Son of Arnold II of Warcq and Alix de Rameru.
  
  === als Mönch ===
  als Mönch
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 92D7-SR From ===
  Ancestral File Number: 92D7-SR From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === #Générale# Comte de Chiny, et de Namur ===
  #Générale# Comte de Chiny, et de Namur du chef de safemme.
  
  === Monnik vanaf 28-4-1125. ===
  Monnik vanaf 28-4-1125.
  
  === !AKA: Otto II, Count of Chiny - Doc. Lin ===
  !AKA: Otto II, Count of Chiny - Doc. Line 149-22A !CHILDREN: Of Otto II and Adelaide of Namur Ida De Chiny and De Namur - Doc. Line 149-22A !DEATH: Date: 1124-31 - Doc. Line 149-22A !MARRIAGE: Otto II and Adelaide of Namur - Doc. Line 149-224
  
  === !GENERAL:Pedigree Resource File CD 4, Pe ===
  !GENERAL:Pedigree Resource File CD 4, Pedigree Resource File CD 4, (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 1999) !GENERAL:Pedigree Resource File CD 4, Pedigree Resource File CD 4, (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 1999)
  
  === !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Editio ===
  !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition line 149-22A
  
  === Count of Chiny Count of Chiny, died a mo ===
  Count of Chiny Count of Chiny, died a monk.
  
  === ANCESTRAL ROOTS, by F. L. Weis, 7th Ed., ===
  ANCESTRAL ROOTS, by F. L. Weis, 7th Ed., Line 149 #22A, pg. 131: Adelaide of Namur, b. 1068, d. 1124, dau. of Albert III of Namur and Ida of Saxony; m. Otto II, Count of Chiny, d. 1124-31, son of Arnold II, d. 1106, Count of Chiney, by his wife, Adela, dau. of Hildouin III, d. c1063, Count of Montdidier & Roucy, Seigneur of Rameru, by his wife Alex de Roucy (151-22). (Brandenburg 52-56).
  
  === Graaf van Chiny (106-1125), vestigde een ===
  Graaf van Chiny (106-1125), vestigde een college van kanunniken in deabdij Orval, was monnik vanaf 28.4.1125.
  
  === --Other Fields ®64 ===
  --Other Fields ®64
  
  === REF: Weis, Ancestral Roots 149-22A. Cou ===
  REF: Weis, Ancestral Roots 149-22A. Count of Chiny.
  
  === !Title: Count of Chiny from 1106-1125. I ===
  !Title: Count of Chiny from 1106-1125. Info: Gens Nostra, P.606, 286; 12/218 !REL: 25gg dau

1. Alveradis DE CHINY, b. 1110 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Wallonie, Belgium     d. 1170 in , Cuijk, Noord-Brabant, Nederland
2. Albert de Chiny I, b. 1098 in Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgium     d. 29 SEP 1162 in Liege, Lotharingia, Holy Roman Empire
3. Oda Otto De Chiny, b. 1085 in Chiny, Saône-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France     d. AFT 1134 in Leuven, Vlaams-Brabant, Belgium
4. Ida von Chiny, b. 1088 in , Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France     d. 28 MAR 1125 in Leuven, Vlaams-Brabant, Belgium

1. Title: Otto de Chiny "Foundation for Medieval Genealogy"
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#OttoIIChinydiedafter1131;
   Note: OTTO [II] (-1131 or after). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Ottonem comitem et sorores eius" as children of "Arnulfus comes de Cinni" and his wife Adela[586]. "Arnulfus…comes" founded the priory of Sainte-Valpurge at Chiny, confirmed by "filiorum meorum Ottonis et Ludovici, nurus…meæ Adeleid", by charter dated 1097, later confirmed by "Ottonis comitis et Frederici præpositi Remensis et Alberti comitis filiorum eius et Adadis comitissæ et Guillelmi avocati"[587]. Comte de Chiny. A charter dated 30 Sep 1124 notifies the consecration of the church of Orval, in the presence of “Otto comes de Cisney cum sua uxore Adelada et filiis suis...Frederico Remensis ecclesiæ præposito et Alberto post patrem comite”, noting that the count confirmed the actions of “pater suus Arnulphus...jussu Mathildis marchionissæ”[588]. The Chronicon Sancti Huberti names "filius eius [=Arnulfus comes Chisniacensis] Otto" when recording that he died with "Henrico Coloniæ"[589]. m (before 1097) ALIX de Namur, daughter of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida of Saxony. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaide sorore comitis Godefridi Namucensis" as wife of "comes Otto de Cisneio"[590]. "Arnulfus…comes" founded the priory of Sainte-Valpurge at Chiny, confirmed by "filiorum meorum Ottonis et Ludovici, nurus…meæ Adeleid", by charter dated 1097, later confirmed by "Ottonis comitis et Frederici præpositi Remensis et Alberti comitis filiorum eius et Adadis comitissæ et Guillelmi avocati"[591]. A charter dated 30 Sep 1124 notifies the consecration of the church of Orval, in the presence of “Otto comes de Cisney cum sua uxore Adelada et filiis suis...Frederico Remensis ecclesiæ præposito et Alberto post patrem comite”[592]. Otto [II] & his wife had seven children: a) IDA (-before 1125). b) ODA (-after 1134). c) HUGUES . d) ALBERT (-29 Sep 1162). e) FREDERIC (-after 30 Sep 1124). f) ADALBERO (-[26] Mar 1145) g) EUSTACHE (-after 1156).
   
2. Title: Otto II, Count of Chiny (1065-1131), Wikipedia
   Author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_II,_Count_of_Chiny
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_II,_Count_of_Chiny;
   Note: Otto II (1065 – after 1131), Count of Chiny, son of Arnold I, Count of Chiny, and Adélaïs. He succeeded his father in 1106 [as count]. He married Adelaide (Alix) (1068–1124), daughter of Albert III, Count of Namur and Ida of Saxony (widow of Frederick of Lower Lorraine).
   
3. Title: Otto II, Comte de Chiny (1065-1131), The Peerage
   Author: https://www.thepeerage.com/p69533.htm#i695327 Citation: [S130] Wikipedia, online http;//www.wikipedia.org. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
   Publication: Name: https://www.thepeerage.com/p69533.htm#i695327;
   Note: Otto II, Comte de Chiny was born in 1065.1 He married Adelaide de Namur, daughter of Albert III, Comte de Namur and Ida von Sachsen.1 He died after 1131.1 Child of Otto II, Comte de Chiny and Adelaide de Namur: Ida de Chiny+1 d. b 1125
   
4. Title: Otto (Chiny) de Chiny on WikiTree
   Author: WikiTree contributors, "Otto (Chiny) de Chiny", WikiTree, http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chiny-3 (accessed 26 April 2022)
   Publication: Name: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chiny-3;
   
5. Title: Wikipedia (French) - Otto II Comte de Chiny
   Author: Notes et références Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), Villeneuve-d'Ascq, éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993, 545 p. (ISBN 978-2-95015-093-6)
   Publication: Name: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otton_II_de_Chiny;
   Note: Otton II de Chiny Titre de noblesse Comte Biographie Naissance 1065 Père Arnoul Ier de Chiny Mère Adela de Roucy (d) Fratrie Albéron III de Chiny Conjoint Adelaide de Namur (d) Enfants Ida de Chiny (d) Albéron II de Chiny-Namur Albert Ier de Chiny NN (de Chiny ?) (d) Otton II de Chiny, mort après 1131, fut comte de Chiny. Il était fils d'Arnoul Ier, comte de Chiny, et d'Adélaïs de Ramerupt-Roucy. Il succéda à son père en 1106 et acheva en 1134 la construction de l'abbaye d'Orval que son père avait entrepris en 1070. Il y installa alors des chanoines. L'installation d'une communauté cistercienne à Orval en 1131 marque sa dernière apparition dans les actes. Mariage et enfants Il avait épousé Adélaïs, fille d'Albert III, comte de Namur et d'Ida de Saxe (veuve de Frédéric de Basse-Lotharingie), qui donna naissance à : Hugues, probablement mort jeune Albert Ier, comte de Chiny Frédéric, prévôt à Reims en 1120 Albéron II, princier de Metz, puis évêque de Liège Eustache, avoué de Hesbaye Ida (?), mariée à Godefroy Ier, comte de Louvain Oda (?), mariée à Gislebert de Duras