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Ida de Lorraine



Preferred Parents:
Father: Godfrey de Lorraine III, b. BET 997 AND 1030 in Moselle, Lorraine, France   d. 24 DEC 1069 in Verdun, Meuse, Lorraine, France
Mother: Doda von Henneberg, b. 1007 in Basse-Lorraine (Neder-Lotharingen), France   d. 21 DEC 1077

Family 1: Eustace de Boulogne II,    b. 1015 in Boulogne-Sur-Mer, Nord-Pas-De-Calais, France    d. 1087 in Boulogne-Sur-Mer, Pas-De-Calais, Nord-Pas-De-Calais, France
  1. Eustace Count of Boulogne III, b. 1040 in Boulogne France     d. 25 JAN 1125 in Boulogne-Sur-Mer, Pas-De-Calais, Nord-Pas-De-Calais, France
  2. Godfrey de Bouillon Defender of the Holy Sepulchre Duke of Lower Lotharingia, b. 18 SEP 1060 in Boulogne-Sur-Mer, Nord-Pas-De-Calais, France     d. 18 JUL 1100 in Jerusalem, Kingdom of Jerusalem
Sources:
  1. Title: Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families
    Author: Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, Michel L. Call, 1975 Editions, Page number: page 167
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3243690013
  2. Title: North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ; https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9KC-T5LK?cc=1726957&wc=QD8P-6N5%3A1588773019%2C1588773996
    Author: "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9KC-T5LK?cc=1726957&wc=QD8P-6N5%3A1588773019%2C1588773996 : 19 July 2016), Forsyth > Marriage licenses, 1923-1923 > image 1 of 1233; North Carolina State Archives Division of Archives and History.
    Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9KC-T5LK;
  3. Title: Ida of Lorraine
    Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_of_Lorraine;
  4. Title: Lambert I, Comte de Louvain, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#LambertILouvaindied1015 [See document in the Memories section]
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#LambertILouvaindied1015;
    Note: Lambert I, Comte de Louvain, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#LambertILouvaindied1015 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Lambert I, Comte de Louvain, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#LambertILouvaindied1015 [See document in the Memories section]
  5. Title: Wikipedia: Ida of Lorraine
    Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_of_Lorraine;
  6. Title: Ide de Boulogne - French Wikipedia
    Publication: Name: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ide_de_Boulogne;
  7. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Mahaut of Louvain - Published information: female
    Note: Published information: female Published information: birth: about 1006; Leuven, Brabant, Belgium Published information: birth-name: Mahaut of Louvain
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2036922561
  8. Title: Godefroi and Baudouin of Boulogne, Kings of Jerusalem, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/JERUSALEM.htm#BaudouinI [See document in the Memories section]
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/JERUSALEM.htm#BaudouinI;
    Note: Godefroi and Baudouin of Boulogne, Kings of Jerusalem, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/JERUSALEM.htm#BaudouinI [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Godefroi and Baudouin of Boulogne, Kings of Jerusalem, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/JERUSALEM.htm#BaudouinI [See document in the Memories section]
  9. Title: EUSTACHE [III] de Boulogne in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIIIdied1125;
    Note: 1. EUSTACHE [III] de Boulogne (-1125 or after). His parentage is specified in his donation to Saint-Bertin dated 1122, for the souls of "Eustacii comitis patris mei et Yde matris mee comitisse"[476]. He is not named as one of her sons by "Ida comitisse Boloniensis" in the latter's charter for the soul of her husband[477]. William of Tyre records him as brother of Godefroi and Baudouin, naming him last of the three[478]. It is not known whether this indicates that he was the youngest of the three brothers, or was simply a reflection of his less significant role in affairs in Palestine. His inheritance of the paternal possessions and titles suggests that he was the oldest brother, at any rate older than his brother Baudouin. He succeeded as Comte de Boulogne, Comte de Lens. This would normally be an indication of his seniority in the family. However, given the superior position of his brother Godefroi as Duke of Lower Lotharingia, it may have been decided that the less important paternal inheritance would pass to a younger son. He was a member of the company of Robert II Count of Flanders on the First Crusade, joining his brothers after arriving in Constantinople in 1097[479]. Albert of Aix records the arrival in Constantinople of "Robertus Normannorum comes, Stephanus Blesensis, Eustachius frater prædicti Ducis", dated to early 1097 from the context[480]. In Palestine in 1099, he returned to Boulogne soon after. "Eustacius Bolonie comes" confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Samer by charter dated Jul 1112, subscribed by "Cononis de Fieules, Eustacii et Rogerii filiorum eius…"[481]. Albert of Aix records that Baudouin appointed "fratri Eustachio" as his successor on his deathbed if he would come to Jerusalem, or if he failed to come "Baldewinus de Burg"[482]. A legation left Jerusalem for Boulogne in Apr 1118 to invite him to succeed. Eustache left Boulogne for Jerusalem, but when he reached Apulia he received news that Baudouin du Bourg had been chosen as king. He refused to press his claim further, and retired to the Cluniac monastery at Rumilly in [1125]. "Eustachius olim comes Boloniensis nunc autem…monachus Cluniacensis" donated property to Cluny by charter dated 1125 which names "Maria uxore mea…[et] Mathildi filia mea", and is subscribed by "Stephani comitis Bolonie, Matildis comitisse"[483]. m (1102) MARY of Scotland, daughter of MALCOLM III "Caennmor/Bighead" King of Scotland & his second wife [St] Margaret of England (-31 May 1116 or 18 Apr 1118, bur Bermondsey Priory). Orderic Vitalis records that their mother sent Mary and her sister Eadgyth to be brought up by her sister Christina, nun at Romsey Abbey[484]. Florence of Worcester records that Henry I King of England arranged the marriage of "Mariam reginæ sororem" and "Eustatio Bononensium comiti" in [1102][485]. Her marriage is also recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who also names her daughter[486]. The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Eustachius, frater Balduini regis Iheruslame" married "Mariam filiam regis Scotiæ"[487]. The 12th century Cronica Regum Scottorum records the death "II Kal Jun" in 1116 of "Maria…comitissa" and her burial "apud Bermundseiam"[488]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that "Mary countess of Bouillon" died in "the third year before her sister’s death"[489]. Comte Eustache [III] & his wife had one child: a) MATHILDE de Boulogne ([1103/05]-Hedingham Castle, Essex 2/3 or 30 May or 3 Jul 1151, bur Faversham Abbey, Kent). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis[490]. The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium names Mathilde daughter of "Eustachius, frater Balduini regis Iheruslame" and his wife "Mariam filiam regis Scotiæ", also recording her marriage with "Stephano, filio Stephani Blesensis comitis"[491]. She succeeded her father as Ctss de Boulogne. "Stephanus comes Bolonie et Morethonii et Mathildis comitissa" confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Samer by charter dated 1141 (presumably misdated because of the donors’ titles), subscribed by "…Eustachius de Fielnes, Willelmus et Rogerus fratres sui…"[492]. She was crowned Queen Consort of England at Westminster Abbey 22 Mar 1136. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1152 of "Matildis uxor Stephani regis Anglorum" and in a later passage her burial "in monasterio Fasseham", recording that she had founded the abbey[493]. m ([1124/25]) ETIENNE de Blois Comte de Mortain, son of ETIENNE Comte de Blois & his wife Adela of England (Blois [1096/97]-Dover 25 Oct 1154, bur Faversham Abbey, Kent). Comte de Boulogne, in right of his wife, before 1125. He succeeded 22 Dec 1135 as STEPHEN King of England, crowned at Westminster Abbey 26 Dec 1135. His first cousin Matilda Lady of the English, daughter of Henry I King of England, disputed Stephen’s accession. During the ensuing civil war in England, Stephen was deposed and imprisoned by Matilda 7-10 April 1141, but restored to the throne 1 Nov 1141. He was crowned a second time at Canterbury Cathedral 1141, and a third time at Lincoln Cathedral 1146. - see below, Part B. Comte Eustache [III] had [three] illegitimate children by unknown mistresses: b) RAOUL de Boulogne (-after [1122/25]). Witness, with his brother Eustache, of their father's charters in 1106 (in favour of St Paul's London) and in [1120/25] (in favour of Roger de Sumerio)[494]. "Rodulfi filii comitis Eustacii" witnessed his father's donation to Saint-Bertin dated 1122[495]. c) EUSTACHE de Boulogne. Witness, with his brother Raoul, of their father's charters in 1106 (in favour of St Paul's London) and in [1120/25] (in favour of Roger de Sumerio)398. m ---. The name of Eustache's wife is not known. Eustache & his wife had one child: i) EUSTACHE (-after [1176/77]). The 1164/65 Pipe Roll names "Eustachius fil Eust fil Com" accounting for relief of his land in Essex/Hertfordshire[496]. The 1176/77 Pipe Roll names "Eustacius filius Eustacii filii Comitis" in Essex and Hertfordshire[497]. d) [GODEFROI (-killed in battle al-Sinnabrah 28 Jun 1113). William of Malmesbury names him "bastard great-nephew [abnepos eius nothus]" of Baudouin I King of Jerusalem[498]. "…Gotafredus nepos regis…" subscribed the charter dated 20 Jun 1112 under which Baudouin I King of Jerusalem confirmed the possessions of the Knights Hospitallers[499]. Murray points out that his being the illegitimate son of Eustache [III] Comte de Boulogne is only one of the various possibilities[500]. He was killed fighting Tughtikin atabeg of Damascus and Mawdud of Mosul.
    Page: Eustache, Comte de Boulogne, and Ida of Lorraine in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIIB [See document in the Memories section]
  10. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain Americian Colonists
    Author: Ancestral Roots of Certain Americian Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr, Page number: 148-21
    Note: Source Media Type: Book
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741115
  11. Title: GODEFROI II "le Barbu" Duke of Upper and Lower Lotharingia in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy n for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#Gozelondied1044A [See document in the Memories section]
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#Gozelondied1044A;
    Note: GODEFROI II "le Barbu" Duke of Upper and Lower Lotharingia in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy n for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#Gozelondied1044A [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: GODEFROI II "le Barbu" Duke of Upper and Lower Lotharingia in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy n for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#Gozelondied1044A [See document in the Memories section]
  12. Title: Matilda Vanluven in entry for James Walker, "Michigan Marriages, 1822-1995"
    Author: "Michigan Marriages, 1822-1995", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FCPT-K59 : 17 January 2020), Matilda Vanluven in entry for James Walker, 1865.
    Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FCPT-K59;
    Note: This extracted record was used to create this person in Family Tree.
  13. Title: Findagrave
    Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/163079542/mathilde-of_boulogne;
  14. Title: Malcolm III, King of Scotland, and Margaret of England in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#MalcolmIIIdied1093A;
    Note: MALCOLM, son of DUNCAN I King of Scotland & his wife [Sibylla of Northumbria] (1031-killed in battle near Alnwick, Northumberland 13 Nov 1093[306], bur Tynemouth St Albans[307], transferred to Dunfermline Abbey, Fife[308], transferred again to Escorial, Madrid). The 12th century Cronica Regum Scottorum names "Malcolaim filii Donnchada" in one of its lists[309]. The Chronicon of Marianus Scottus records that "Moelcol…filius Donchael" succeeded Lulach in 1058[310]. [Florence of Worcester records that "dux Northhymbrorum Siwardus" defeated "rege Scottorum Macbeotha" in battle, dated to 1054, and installed "Malcolmum regis Cumbrorum filium" in his place[311]. The Annales Dunelmenses record that "Siwardus" put "Macbeth" to flight in 1054 and installed "Malcolmum rege" in the following year[312]. It is not clear that these two accounts refer to the future King Malcolm III: it is uncertain why King Malcolm would be called "regis Cumbrorum filium".] The Annals of Tigernach record that “Lulach rí Alban” was killed by “Mael-Coluimb, son of Donnchad” in 1058[313]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that Malcolm recaptured his kingdom with the help of "Siward Earl of Northumberland" and killed "Machabeus" 5 Dec 1056[314]. He succeeded in 1058 as MALCOLM III "Caennmor/Bighead" King of Scotland, crowned 25 Apr 1058 at Scone Abbey, Perthshire. Duncan cites sources which demonstrate that this nickname was first applied to King Malcolm III in the 13th century[315]. He suggests[316] that it was originally applied to King Malcolm IV who, he asserts, suffered from Paget's disease, involving a deformation of the bones particularly observable in the skull, and was later misapplied to King Malcolm III. King Malcolm supported the claim to the English crown of Edgar ætheling, whose sister he had married, and led plundering raids into England. Florence of Worcester records that he did homage to William I King of England at Abernethy in Aug 1072[317]. The same source records that King Malcolm invaded Northumberland in 1091, but did fealty to Willam II King of England after peace was negotiated between the two kings[318]. Florence of Worcester records that "rex Scottorum Malcolmus et primogenitus filius suus Eadwardus" were killed in battle in Northumbria "die S Bricii" [13 Nov] by the army of "Rotberti Northymbrorum comitis"[319]. William of Malmesbury records that he was killed, with his son Edward, by Morael of Bamborough, steward of Robert Mowbray Earl of Northumberland, while leading a raid into England[320]. The Annals of Ulster record that "Mael Coluim son of Donnchad, over-king of Scotland, and Edward his son, were killed by the French in Inber Alda in England"[321]. [m] [firstly] ([before 1058]) ---. The identity of the mother of King Malcolm's sons Duncan and Donald is uncertain. The absence of any reference to her in Scottish sources is best explained if her relationship with the king ended before his accession in 1058. However, this is not totally consistent with the estimated birth dates of her sons as shown below. It should be noted that King Duncan II, in his charter dated 1093, makes no reference to his mother, which implies that his father's relationship with her may have been short-lived and informal. Orkneyinga Saga records that “Ingibjorg the Earls’-Mother” (Ingibjörg Finnsdatter, widow of Thorfinn "the Black" Jarl of Orkney and Caithness, daughter of Finn Arnisson [later Jarl of Halland in Denmark]) married “Malcolm King of Scots, known as Long-neck” and that “their son was Duncan, King of Scots, father of William”[322]. There must be considerable doubt about whether this can be correct. Ingibjörg's [first] husband died in [1060/65]. King Malcolm's marriage to Queen Margaret is dated to 1070, three years after her arrival at the Scottish court. Although this provides sufficient time after the death of her first husband for the king to have married Ingebjörg, and for Ingebjörg to have died, the chronology for the birth of two sons would be tight. In addition, it is unlikely that either of these sons was born after [1065], as explained further below. If the king had really married Ingibjörg during this time, and if she had given birth to two sons, the absence of any reference to her in either Scottish or English sources is all the more surprising. It is possible that King Malcolm's marriage to Ingibjörg (if it did take place) was more Danico, implying concubinage rather than regular marriage, but this does not change the chronological difficulties. The one puzzle which remains, if the Saga is not correct, is why the author would have fabricated this detail. m [secondly] (Dunfermline Abbey 1070) MARGARET of England, daughter of EDWARD ætheling of England & his wife Agatha --- ([in Hungary] [1046/53]-Edinburgh Castle 16 Nov 1093, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife, transferred to Escorial, Madrid, her head bur Jesuit College, Douai). Although Margaret's birth is often placed in [1045/46][323], a later birth would be more consistent with the "German" theory of her mother's origin (as discussed in the document ANGLO-SAXON KINGS). Margaret's birth as late as 1053 would still be consistent with her having given birth to four children before her daughter Edith/Matilda (later wife of Henry I King of England), whose birth is estimated to have taken place in [1079/80]. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle records that Margaret left England with her mother in Summer 1067 and found refuge at the court of Malcolm King of Scotland[324]. Florence of Worcester records that "clitone Eadgaro et matre sua Agatha duabusque sororibus suis Margareta et Christina" left England for Scotland, in a passage which deals with events in mid-1068[325]. Florence of Worcester records that "regina Scottorum Margareta" died from grief after learning of the death of her husband and oldest son[326]. The Annals of Ulster record that "his queen Margaret…died of sorrow for him within nine days" after her husband was killed in battle[327]. She was canonised in 1250, her feast day in Scotland is 16 Nov[328]. King Malcolm III & [his first wife] had [two] children: 1. DUNCAN ([1060/65]-murdered Monthechim/Mondynes, Kincardineshire 12 Nov 1094, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife). 2. DONALD ([1060/65]-[killed in battle] 1085). King Malcolm III & his second wife had eight children[352]: 3. EDWARD (-Edwardsisle, near Jedburgh 16 Nov 1093, bur Tynemouth St Albans). 4. EDMUND (-after 1097, bur [Montacute]). 5. EDGAR ([1074]-[Dundee or Edinburgh Castle] 6 Jan 1107, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife). 6. ALEXANDER ([1077/78]-Stirling Castle 23, 25 or 27 Apr 1124, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife). 7. ETHELRED (-before [1107], bur [St Andrew’s Church, Kilremont]). 8. EADGYTH (1079-1 May 1118). She adopted the name MATILDA on her marriage. m (11 Nov 1100) as his first wife, HENRY I "Beauclerc" King of England 9. DAVID ([1080]-Carlisle 24 May 1153, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife). 10. MARY (-31 May 1116 or 18 Apr 1118, bur Bermondsey Priory). m (1102) EUSTACHE [III] Comte de Boulogne
    Page: Malcolm III, King of Scotland, and Margaret of England in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#MalcolmIIIdied1093A [See document in the Memories section]
  15. Title: Sainte Ida de Boulogne comtessa de Boulogne
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#Idadied1113;
  16. Title: Find a Grave -Mathilde de Louvain
    Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/163079542/maud-of_boulogne;
    Note: Maud Of Louvain Of Boulogne BIRTH unknown Lorraine, France DEATH unknown Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France BURIAL Unknown Add to Map MEMORIAL ID 163079542 · View Source One of her sons is Lambert II, Count of Lens; another is Count Eustace II of Boulogne, a proven companion to William the Conqueror in 1066 at the Battle of Hastings. Source: Roderick W. Stuart, (lines 77 & 121 in) Royalty for Commoners (2010).
  17. Title: Virtual International Authority File - Ide de Boulogne
    Publication: Name: https://viaf.org/viaf/74660139/;
  18. Title: Eustache I, Comte de Boulogne
    Page: Eustache I, Comte de Boulogne, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Gerbergediedbefore1059 [See document in the Memories section]
  19. Title: ISN:0000000419843446
    Author: Alternate name index.
    Publication: Name: https://isni.oclc.org/xslt/DB=1.2//CMD?ACT=SRCH&IKT=8006&TRM=ISN%3A0000000419843446&TERMS_OF_USE_AGREED=Y&terms_of_use_agree=send&COOKIE=U51,KENDUSER,I28,B0028++++++,SY,NISNI,D1.2,E635b6f66-b6,A,H1,,3-28,,30-41,,43-59,,65-70,,74-75,R124.180.88.95,FY;
  20. Title: Ide de Boulogne, Saint 1040-1113
    Publication: Name: https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-nb2005016204/;

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