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Ida von Braunschweig Of Elsdorf
- Preferred Name: Ida von Braunschweig Of Elsdorf[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20]
- Alternate Name: von Elsdorf
- Gender: F
- Death: 1083 in Goslar, Niedersachsen, Deutschland at LATI: N1.9097 LONG: E0.4181
- FSID: L1QM-R1L
- Birth: 1023 in Braunschweig, Niedersachsen, Deutschland at LATI: N2.2635 LONG: E0.5221
- Notes:
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#dauEthelerMSviatoslavIaroslavich as of 7/11/2016
[IDA "von Elstorf" (-before 4 May 1082). The Annales Stadenses name "Ida nobilis femina de S
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=== ! (1) NEHGS "Register," Vol. 152, No. 6 ===
! (1) NEHGS "Register," Vol. 152, No. 606 (Apr 1998), "The Parents of Agatha, Wife of Edwar d the Exile," by David Faris and Douglas Richardson, p.224-235. Cites: (a) Szabolcs de Vajay , "Agatha, Mother of Saint Margaret Queen of Scotland," "Dusquesne Review: A Journal of the S ocial Sciences," Vol. 7:2 (1962). (b) Nicolas Pierre Serge de Baumgarten, "Genealogie et mari ages occidentaux des Rurikides russes, du Xe au XIIIe siecle," "Orientalia Christiana" 9, no. 1:7-8 (1927). ! Birth: (1) d/o Liudolf of Brunswick/Gertrude of Eisheim. Marriage to Count Lippold of Stade: (1b) Marriage to Count Etheler of Dithmarshen: (1b)
=== ПРИМЕЧАНИЯ ===
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Ида из Эльсдорфа (нем. Ida von Elsdorf; ок. 1020 — после 1085) — знатная дама из Швабии, графиня Дитмаршена, владелица Эльсдорфа, Отертсберга и Биркдорфа, племянница императора Священной Римской империи Генриха III и папы Льва IX.
Биография
Главный источник об Иде — так называемые «Штаденские анналы», написанные северосаксонским хронистом Альбертом Штаденским в середине XIII века. В анналах в статье под 1112 годом рассказывается о том, что граф Ольденбурга Эгильмар II Младший, внук Иды из Эльсдорфа, начал имущественный спор с графами Штаде Лотарем Удо IV и его сыном Генрихом, род которых владел наследственными землями Иды с момента её смерти[1][2].
Согласно этому сообщению, Ида была дочерью брата императора Генриха III и сестры папы Льва IX. Она была замужем трижды. От первого брака Ида оставила дочь Оду, которую первоначально отдала монахиней в монастырь Ринтельн, но затем выкупила её и, отдав во владение имение Штелендорф около Хеслингена и выдала замуж за сына «короля Руси». У Иды также родился сын Экберт, которого около 1052/1053 года убил в Вистеде около Эльсдорфа его родственник Удо II, граф Штадена[1].
Лишившись наследника, Ида отправилась в Рим к своему дяде, папе Льву IX. Под его влиянием она решила простить убийцу сына и, вернувшись в свои владения, усыновила графа Удо. Взамен он выделил Иде 300 дворов в пожизненное владение. Именно Удо унаследовал после смерти Иды его владения[1].
Однако в 1112 году граф Эгильмар II Младший, сын графа Эгильмара I и Рикенцы, дочери Иды от второго брака, попытался оспорить право на наследство у наследников Удо II фон Штаде, но вмешался викарный граф Штаде Фридрих, заставивший Эгильмара отказаться от претензий[1].
Первого мужа Иды и отца Оды, согласно «Штаденским анналам», звали Липпольд, он был «сыном госпожи Глисмод». После долгих споров историки пришли к выводу, что первым мужем был Людольф (ум. 1038), граф Брауншвейга, единоутробный брат императора Священной Римской империи Генриха III[3], а матерью — Гертруда, возможно сестра папы Льва IX[4]. Также в анналах указано, что Ида была замужем ещё дважды. Сыном Иды от второго или третьего брака был Бурхард, настоятель соборного храма в Трире[5], который возглавлял посольство на Русь в 1075 году.
Последний раз в источниках Ида упомянута в 1085 году.
Брак и дети
1-й муж: Луитпольд (ум. до 1055), граф Штаде, возможно идентичен Луитпольду (ок. 1020/1025 — 9 декабря 1043), маркграфу Венгерской марки из династии Бабенбергов. Дети:
Экберт (ок. 1040 — ок. 1052/1053)
Ода «Штаденская» (ум. после 1052); 1-й муж: сын «короля Руси». Сейчас в историографии превалирует версия, по которой мужем Оды был Святослав Ярославич (1027 — 27 декабря 1076), князь черниговский и великий князь киевский[6]. Однако существует также версия, выдвинутая Н. А. Баумгартеном, который посчитал Оду, жену Святослава Ярославича, дочерью графа Этелера Белого, третьего мужа Иды. По его мнению Ода, дочь Иды из Эльсдорфа, вышла замуж за рано умершего старшего сына Ярослава Мудрого — Владимира Ярославича, князя Новгородского[7][8][9]. Эту версию принимает часть историков[10]; 2-й муж: N
2-й муж: с 1055 Дедо, граф Дитмаршена.
3-й муж: с ок. 1058 Этелер Белый, граф Дитмаршена.
От второго или третьего брака у Иды были дети:
Рикенца (ум. после 1108); муж: Эгильмар I (ум. после 1108), граф Ольденбурга
Бурхард (ум. после 1090), настоятель соборного храма в Трире
Примечания
↑ 1 2 3 4 Альберт Штаденский Анналы, 3. — С. 338—340.
↑ Назаренко А. В. Древняя Русь на международных путях. — С. 506—508.
↑ Krause K. C. H. Ida von Elsthorpe und ihre Sippe // FDG. Bd. 15. — 1875.
↑ Hlawitschka E. Untersuchungen zu den Thronwechseln der ersten Hälfte des 11. Jahrhunderts und zur Adelsgeschichte Süddeutschlands. Zugleich klärende Forschungen um "Kuno von Öhningen". — Sigmaringen: Jan Thorbecke Verlag, 1987. — P. 144.
↑ В Анналах также указывается, что он был архиепископом Трира, но это известие ошибочно. См. Назаренко А. В. Древняя Русь на международных путях. — С. 507—510.
↑ Назаренко А. В. Древняя Русь на международных путях. — С. 515—518.
↑ Баумгартен Н. А. Первая ветвь князей Галицких: Потомство Владимира Ярославича // Летопись историко-родословного общества. — М., 1907. — № 4. — С. 3—4.
↑ Баумгартен Н. А. Ода Штаденская, внучатая племянница папы Льва IX — невестка Ярослава Мудрого // Благовест. — Париж, 1930. — № 1. — С. 95—101.
↑ Baumgarten N. Généalogies et mariages occidentaux des Rurikides Russes du X-e au XIII-е siècle // Orientalia Christiana. — Roma, 1927. — Т. 35. — P. 7, tabl. I, N 22, 25.
↑ Каштанов С. М. Была ли Ода Штаденская женой великого князя Святослава Ярославича ? // Восточная Европа в древности и средневековье: Древняя Русь в системе этнополитических и культурных связей. Чтения памяти чл.-корр. АН СССР В.Т. Пашуто. — М.: Институт российской истории, 1994. — С. 16—18. — ISBN 5-201-00594-2.
Литература
Альберт Штаденский. Анналы // Древняя Русь в свете зарубежных источников: Хрестоматия / Под ред. Т. Н. Джаксон, И. Г. Коноваловой и А. В. Подосинова. Том IV: Западноевропейские источники. Сост., пер. и коммент. А. В. Назаренко.. — М.: Русский Фонд Содействия Образованию и Науке, 2010. — 336—343 с. — ISBN 978-5-91244-013-7
Назаренко А. В. Древняя Русь на международных путях: Междисциплинарные очерки, культурных, торговых, политических отношений IX—XII веков. — М.: Языки Русской Культуры, 2001. — 784 с. — (Studia Historica). — 1000 экз. — ISBN 5-7859-0085-8
Назаренко А. В. О династических связях сыновей Ярослава Мудрого // Отечественная история. — М.: Наука, 1994. — № 4—5. — С. 181—194.
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=== Name Suffix: Countes Brunswic Ance ===
Name Suffix: Countes Brunswic Ancestral File Number: 978N-DF !Title: Countess of Brunswick.
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=== Countess Brunswick ===
Countess Brunswick
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=== OCCUPATION: Countess of Brunswick ===
OCCUPATION: Countess of Brunswick
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Preferred Parents:
Father: Liudolf Of Brunswick Margrave Of Frisia, b. 16 JUL 1003 in Braunschweig, Niedersachsen, Deutschland d. 23 APR 1038 in Braunschweig, Niedersachsen, Deutschland
Mother: Gertrude von Eguisheim, b. ABT 998 in Schwaben, Kelhein, Bayern d. 21 JUL 1077 in Braunschweig, Niedersachsen, Deutschland
Family 1: Leopold von Babenberg, b. 1025 in Of, Melk, Niederoesterreich, Austria d. 9 DEC 1073 in Ingelheim, Ingelheim am Rhein, Mainz-Bingen, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
- m. ABT 1046 in Of, Braunschweig, Braunschweig, Germany
Family 2: Etheler Graf in Dithmarschen, b. 1005 in Chernihiv, Chernihivs'ka oblast Ukraine d. 1059
- Richenza von Dithmarschen, b. 1044 in Dithmarschen, Dithmarschen, Schleswig, Deutschland d. 1134 in Oldenburg, Niedersachsen, Deutschland
- Iaroslav Rurikides, d. 1129 in Europe
- Cecilia von Dithmarschen, b. 1023 in Novgorod, Alexandrovsk, Yekaterinoslav, Russian Empire d. 1060 in Novgorod, Novgorod, Russia, Soviet Union
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Note: [IDA "von Elstorf" (-before 4 May 1082). The Annales Stadenses name "Ida nobilis femina de Suevia nata, in villa Elsthorpe" as "filia fratris imp. Heinrici III, filia quoque sororis Leonis papa qui et Bruno"[33]. It is probable that “fratris imp. Heinrici III” was Liudolf von Braunschweig, the only known [half-]brother of Emperor Heinrich III whose wife is not otherwise recorded in other primary sources. If that is correct, the reference to Ida’s Swabian origin (“de Suevia nata”) is difficult to explain, unless it was intended to indicate the Alsacian origin of her maternal family. Dobertin considers it “credible” (“glaubhaft”) that Ida was the step-daughter, rather than daughter, of Liudolf[34]. However, the need to add the phrase “filia fratris imp. Heinrici III” in the Annales Stadenses is not obvious if this statement was factually incorrect. In any case, the chronology is not ideal for Ida to have been born from either an otherwise unrecorded earlier or later marriage of her mother: in the case of an earlier marriage, Ida would have been old to have given birth to [three] children by her second/third husband, and if a later marriage the chronology appears tight for her to have had two children by her first husband (assuming that his death is correctly dated as shown below). Elstorf is located west of Hamburg near Buxtehude, south-east of Stade. No other reference has been found in primary sources to Elstorf being linked to any medieval noble family.
The significance of “von Elstorf” in this extract from the Annales Stadenses has not been ascertained. In particular it is not known whether it represents property inherited by Ida from either her paternal or maternal family or from one of her husbands. After her death, Ida’s properties passed to the family of the Grafen von Stade (see the document SAXONY NOBILITY) under unusual circumstances as will be explained. The Annales Stadenses records that Ida [von Elstorf] had "filium Ecbertum comitem" who was killed by "primus Udo marchio...cognatus suus" at “Wistede prope Elstorpe”, adding that Ida found herself without heirs (“orbata heredibus”), visited “avunculum suum papam Leonem” (therefore before Apr 1054), and following his recommendation adopted “ipsum Udonem” as her son and appointed him as her heir (listing properties which she granted him during her lifetime), a later passage clarifying that “predictum Udonem marchionem primum” was Ida’s successor after she died (“Ida ergo mortua...”)[35].
This text presents chronological difficulties. A literal interpretation of “primus Udo marchio” would indicate Lothar Udo [II] Graf von Stade, who succeeded as Markgraf der Nordmark in 1056 and died the following year so could not have been appointed by Ida as her heir. Presumably therefore his son Lothar Udo [III], who succeeded his father as Lothar Udo II Markgraf der Nordmark and died in 1082, was intended. However, that interpretation is inconsistent with Ida von Elstorf taking advice from her uncle Pope Leo IX (who died in Apr 1054). That part of the report must be factually incorrect, the only safe conclusion being that Ekbert predeceased his mother some time before 1082. This passage in the Annales Stadenses specifies that Ida predeceased Markgraf Lothar Udo, therefore died before 4 May 1082.]
m firstly LUITPOLD Graf von Stade, son of --- & his wife Glismode --- (-[before 1055]). The Annales Stadenses name "Lippoldo filio domine Glismodis" as husband of "Ida [de Elsthorpe]", specifying that they were parents of "Odam sanctimonialem de Rinthelen"[36]. He is identified in Europäischen Stammtafeln[37] as Liutpold der Ostmark, son of Adalbert "der Siegreiche" Markgraf der Ostmark [of Austria] & his first wife --- (-Ingelheim 9 Dec 1043, bur Trier)[38]. Presumably this is based firstly on the Annales Stadenses which name "Lippoldo filio domine Glismodis" as husband of "Ida [de Elsthorpe]"[39], and secondly on the Vita Meinwerci which names "Thiedericum, Meinwercum, Glismod et Azelam" as children of Immed & Athela, specifying that Glismod married "nobilis principis in Baioaria"[40], although there is no evidence linking the second with the first.
The fact that Ida von Elstorf had children by her first husband, if correct, also indicates that that this co-identity cannot be right[41].
m secondly ([1055]) DEDO Graf von Dietmarschen, son of ---. The Annales Stadenses name "comitem Dedonem et comitem Ethelerum Album" as the two husbands of Ida after "Lippoldo filio domiine Glismodis", specifying that both were killed "in Thietmarschia"[42].
m thirdly ([1058]) ETHELER Graf von Dietmarschen, son of ---. The Annales Stadenses name "comitem Dedonem et comitem Ethelerum Album" as the two husbands of Ida after "Lippoldo filio domiine Glismodis", specifying that both were killed "in Thietmarschia"[43]. Ida & her [second/third] husband had [three] children:
i) RICHEZA (-1108 or after). The Annales Stadenses name "Rikencem" as the daughter of Ida by her second or third husband, specifying that she married "comes Eilmarus de Aldenburg"[44]. "Eigilmarus comes in confinio Saxonie et Frisie…et…eius coniuge Richeza" promised donations to Aldenburg St Marie in Iburg, with the consent of "duobus eorum filiis Christino…et Egilmaro necnon et filia Gertrude" by charter dated 1108[45]. m EGILMAR [I] Graf von Oldenburg, son of --- (-1108 or after).
ii) BURCHARD . The Annales Stadenses name "Burchardus, Treverensis maior prepositus" as son of Ida, without specifying by which husband, specifying he was later elected archbishop (without specifying the archbishopric)[46]. The Annales Sancti Diibodi record that "Hermannus de Winzenburg" killed "Burchardum de Lochenheim" in 1130[47].
iii) [daughter . Baumgarten refers to the marriage of "[Kilikia] de Dithmarschen, fille du Comte Etheler" and Sviatoslav II Grand Prince of Kiev, adding that she was a different person from "Oda von Stade" who married Sviatoslav´s brother Vladimir and whom he identifies as Ida von Elstorf’s daughter by her first marriage (see the document SAXONY)[48]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified. m SVIATOSLAV Iaroslavich, son of IAROSLAV I "Mudriy/the Wise" Grand Prince of Kiev & his [second] wife Ingigerd Olafsdottir of Sweden (1027-27 Dec 1076, bur Chernigov, Church of the Redeemer).]
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