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Jeanne de Geneva Comtesse de Savoie
- Preferred Name: Jeanne de Geneva Comtesse de Savoie[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Alternate Name: Comte de Savoie
- Alternate Name: DE SAVOIE
- Alternate Name: Jeanne De Genève
- Gender: F
- Death: 1095 in Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France at LATI: N5.5 LONG: E0.4167
- Birth: ABT 1040 in Geneva, Geneva, Switzerland at LATI: N6.2063 LONG: E0.1436
- FSID: L5NV-7ZQ
- Title+(Nobility): with note: Description: Countess of Geneve
- Alt.+Birth: 1034 in Geneva, Switzerland at LATI: N6.1967 LONG: E0.1104 with note: GEDCOM data
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Joan of Geneva (born c. 1040, died 1095) was a Countess Consort of Savoy; married to Amadeus II, Count of Savoy.
According to the much later Chronicles of Savoy, Amadeus married Joan, daughter of "Girard, Count of Burgundy", which scholars have surmised to have been Count Gerold of Geneva. The Chronicon Altacumbae says only that "the wife of Amadeus was from Burgundy", which might refer to Amadeus I. If his wife were Genevan, it would explain how the house of Savoy came so early to possess a large portion of the Genevois. His wife, whatever her name and origins, bore Amadeus II several children, although there is some uncertainty about how many:
1.) Adelaide, wife of Manasses, sire de Coligny
2.) Ausilia (also Auxilia or Usilia), second wife of Humbert II de Beaujeu, whom she bore four sons by the last decade of the eleventh century: Guichard, Humbert, Guigues, and Hugh
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la première Genevoise
Fille de Gérold ( ou Gérard) II de Genève (7° comte en 1001 - mort en 1033) et de sa femme Berthe fille du dernier roi des deux Bourgognes
Elle épouse en 1065 Amédée II, 5° comte de Savoie (1050-1094) ,
elle lui donna un fils et trois filles : Humbert II (1070- 6° comte en 1080, mort en 1103) - Constance, mariée à Otton de Montferrat († 1084), --Adélaïde († 1090), mariée à Manassès V de Coligny en Bresse et enfin Auxilia,( ce prénom qui rappelle celui de la première comtesse) mariée vers 1080 à Humbert II de Beaujeu († 1101),
Elle est morte en 1095 , sans avoir jamais eu beaucoup de pouvoir car Adélaïde de Suse a gardé le pouvoir et géré les affaires de la famille jusqu’à sa mort en 1091.
’à la fin du XI° siècle, les Humbertiens semblent renoncer aux alliances matrimoniales germaniques au profit de mariages peut-être plus modestes mais indéniablement plus sûrs et plus utiles avec des familles voisines locales
La nouvelle souveraine de Savoie n’en fut pas plus heureuse pour autant : « mol dolent » de « ne pas avoir ligniée de son corps … », devenue « pale et maigre » à force de « jousne et de prier … » elle s’attira finalement les remarques de son mari qui n’en avait pas demandé tant et qui la pria « qu’elle se donnast bon temps , et se rejouit et confortast .. » . On ne sait si la princesse s’exécuta , mais elle n’en créa pas moins l’abbaye de Saint-Sulpice en Bugey,ce qui apparemment arrangea tout et permit enfin l’avènement d’un héritier Humbert III .
source : Princesses de Savoie
relevé 2022 JPR Teyssier Chalancon
Jeanne de Genève (1050-1095)
Jeanne de Genève, née vers 1050 et morte vers 1095, est issue de la maison de Genève et devient par mariage comtesse de Savoie.
Biographie
Jeanne de Genève est la fille du comte de Genève, Gérold (1
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAVOY.htm#Oddondied1060B as of 3/27/2016
JEANNE, daughter of --- (-[1095]). The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. Gu
=== W H Turton: The Plantagenet Ancestry pp ===
W H Turton: The Plantagenet Ancestry pp 189, 60
=== 1. CD V731-01, Vol 31 World Family Tree ===
1. CD V731-01, Vol 31 World Family Tree, dated ©1999, The Learning Company, Inc., Pedigree #0791.
=== Sources: Kraentzler 1173; RC 93; AF. K. ===
Sources: Kraentzler 1173; RC 93; AF. K. says Johanna is the daughter of Tetberge. RC: daughter of Gisela.
=== !NOTE: Ancestors of John Gerald Haring.; ===
!NOTE: Ancestors of John Gerald Haring.; ; ; ; ;
=== BETHAMIS GENEALOGICAL TABLES (GS NUMBER ===
BETHAMIS GENEALOGICAL TABLES (GS NUMBER Q929.2 B465G) TAB 404; THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.39, 60, 61; SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.17; TABLEAUX GENEALOGIQUES DES SOUVERAINS DE FRANCE ET SEU GRANDS FEUDATAIRES (GS NUMBER 944 D22T) TAB 52; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
=== from internet file, "mostly from Ancestr ===
from internet file, "mostly from Ancestral File".
=== !Royalty for Commoners Chart 124; Pedigr ===
!Royalty for Commoners Chart 124; Pedigree Chart from researcher hired by family org.; Ancestral File 1996
=== #Générale# Il semble chronologiquement d ===
#Générale# Il semble chronologiquement difficile qu'elle p uisse êtrefille du 2ème lit de son père.
=== #Générale# Il semble chronologiquement ===
#Générale# Il semble chronologiquement difficile qu'elle p uisse êtrefille du 2ème lit de son père.
=== Il semble chronologiquement difficile qu ===
Il semble chronologiquement difficile qu'elle puisse être fille du 2ème lit de son père.
=== SURNAME: Also shown as von Genf ===
SURNAME: Also shown as von Genf
GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Johanna Jeanne
ID: Merged with a record that used the ID 52308
BIRTH: Also shown as Born 1040
DEATH: Also shown as Died Abt 1095
=== !LDS Family History Library Rogers Arkan ===
!LDS Family History Library Rogers Arkansas LDS Royalty Book Plantagenet Ancestry
=== !"Our Plafs Roots Are True" A Genealogy ===
!"Our Plafs Roots Are True" A Genealogy of Kochert and Nieb Families, by Ethel Clift Philips, Published 1983. The information in the book is derived from church records of Rumbach and Family records. !Source is from "Neuhart Nobility", by Dennis Allen Kastens -1997 page 208. !Source Dictionary of Royal Linage, by C.M.Allstrom, 1904 and Encylcopeaedia Britannica,15th Edition 1974.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Gérold de Genève II Comte de Genève, b. 1012 in Genève, Genève, Suisse d. um 1065 in Genève, Genève, Suisse
Mother: Gisèle de Bourgogne, b. 1020 in Genève, Genève, Switzerland d. 1060 in Chêne-Bougeries, Genève, Suisse
Family 1: Amadeus Comte de Savoie II, b. 1048 in Maurienne, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France d. 26 JAN 1080 in Lot-Et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France
- m. 1065 in Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne, Savoie, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France
- Adelaide di Savoia, b. 1070 in Genève, Suisse d. 1115
- Humbert de Savoie II comte en Maurienne, b. 6 de junho de 1066 in Dijon, Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, França d. 19 de outubro de 1103 in Salins-les-Thermes, Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, França
- Auxilia de Savoie, b. 1064 in Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France d. 6 SEP 1094 in Beaujeu, Rhône, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France
- Constance of Savoy , b. 1074 in Savoy, France d. in Montferrat, Isère, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France
Sources:
- Title: princesses de savoie
Publication: Name: http://princesse-savoie.fr/les-savoie/les-souveraines-de-savoie/a-les-comtesses/les-humbertiennes/jeanne-de-geneve/;
- Title: Joan of Geneva
Author: Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Geneva;
Note: Joan of Geneva (born c. 1040; died 1095)[1] was a Countess Consort of Savoy; married to Amadeus II, Count of Savoy.
According to the much later Chronicles of Savoy, Amadeus married Joan, daughter of "Girard, Count of Burgundy", which scholars have surmised to have been Count Gerold of Geneva. The Chronicon Altacumbae says only that "the wife of Amadeus [was] from Burgundy", which might refer to Amadeus I.[2] If his wife were Genevan, it would explain how the house of Savoy came so early to possess a large portion of the Genevois.[3] His wife, whatever her name and origins, bore Amadeus II several children, although there is some uncertainty about how many:
Adelaide, wife of Manasses, sire de Coligny
Ausilia (also Auxilia or Usilia), second wife of Humbert II de Beaujeu, whom she bore four sons by the last decade of the eleventh century: Guichard, Humbert, Guigues, and Hugh
Page: Source record for Joan of Geneva
- Title: https://www.geni.com/people/Da-Juana-de-Ginebra/6000000005598867316
- Title: [JEANNE (-[1095])
Author: FMG Projects/MedLands
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#JeanneGenevaMAmedeeSavoie;
Note: [JEANNE (-[1095]). Guichenon names Jeanne as the wife of Comte Amédée II referring to various secondary sources[33]. Her origin is not known with certainty, but Guichenon, referring to "Henninges" (no precise citation), suggests "avec…assurance et…probabilité" that she was the daughter of Gerold Comte de Genève and his first wife Gisela ---[34]. From his discussion, it does not appear that this speculation is based on any surviving primary source and it is not known how accurate it might be. m ([1065/70]) AMEDEE de Savoie, son of ODDON Comte de Chablais & his wife Adelaida di Susa ([1048/50]-26 Jan 1080, bur Saint-Jean de Maurienne). He succeeded his brother in 1078 as AMEDEE II Comte de Savoie, Marchese di Susa.]
Page: Source record for [JEANNE (-[1095])
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