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Ermengarde De Bar-sur-Seine
- Preferred Name: Ermengarde De Bar-sur-Seine[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
- Alternate Name: du Perche
- Alternate Name: DE TONNERRE
- Alternate Name: Bar-Sur-Seine
- Alternate Name: DE VERMANDOIS
- Alternate Name: Ermengarde Countess of Vermandois
- Alternate Name: de Bar-sur-Seine
- Alternate Name: Ermengarde De Bar
- Gender: F
- Affiliation: with note: Description: l avait épousé avant 987 Ermengarde. Cette Ermengarde passe pour être la fille du comte Renard de Bar-sur-Seine et se serait ensuite remarié à Miles IV, comte de Tonnerre. Si cette hypothèse était confirmé, le décès d'Herbert doit être antérieur à 998, date de la dernière mention de Miles.
- NFS ID: with note: Description: 273X-2R2
NFS
- Deed: 990 with note: GEDCOM data
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Ermengarde-de-Bar-sur-Seine-Comtesse-de-Bar-sur-Seine/6000000008925659741?through=6000000001441498155
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Ermengarde-du-Maine/6000000009432384185?through=6000000010371229285
- Birth: 965 in Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Lorraine, France at LATI: N8.75 LONG: E0.1667
- Death: 1034 in Vermand, Aisne, Picardie, France at LATI: N9.87 LONG: E0.15
- AFN: in PZ59-LK
- FSID: MBV2-T1M
- Title (Nobility): NOT MARRIED with note: Description: Countess of Vermandois
- Fact: with note: Description: https://fabpedigree.com/s060/f036279.htm
- AFN: with note: Description: PZ59-LK
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
geni.com
Ermengarde de Bar-sur-Seine
Birthdate: circa 960
Birthplace: Bar-Sur-Seine, Aube, Grand-Est, France
Death: 1035 (70-80)
Lot-et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France
Immediate Family:
Wife of Herbert IV de Vermandois, son of Adalbert and Gerberga
Mother of Adalbert de Vermandois, II, Comte de Vermandois and Eudes, comte de Vermandois
Occupation: Comtesse de Bar-sur-Seine, de Tonnerre, Count of Vermandois
Ermengarde de Bar-sur-Seine
Birthdate: circa 960
Birthplace: Bar-Sur-Seine, Aube, Grand-Est, France
Death: 1035 (70-80)
Lot-et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France
Immediate Family:
Wife of Herbert IV de Vermandois, son of Adalbert and Gerberga
Mother of Adalbert de Vermandois, II, Comte de Vermandois and Eudes, comte de Vermandois
Occupation: Comtesse de Bar-sur-Seine, de Tonnerre, Count of Vermandois
wikitree
Ermengarde de Vermandois formerly Bar-sur-Seine aka de Bar-sur-Seine, de Tonnerre
Born 0946 in Bourgogne, Francemap
ANCESTORS ancestors
Daughter of Reinald (Bar) de Bar [uncertain] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of Herbert Vermandois — married [date unknown] in UNPROVENmap
Wife of Milo (Tonnerre) de Tonnerre — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
DESCENDANTS descendants
Mother of Landulf (of Vermandois) Vermandois, Albert Vermandois, Eudes (Vermandois) de Vermandois, Renaud (Tonnerre) de Tonnerre and Milon (Tonnerre) de Tonnerre
Died after 1018 in Vermandois, Normandie, FrancemapPARENTAGE IS UNCERTAIN:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#_ftnref259
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#AlbertIdied987B
Ermengarde de Bar-sur-Seine
Birthdate: circa 960
Birthplace: Bar-Sur-Seine, France
Death: 1035 (70-80)
France, Lot-et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France
Immediate Family:
Wife of Herbert IV de Vermandois, son of Adalbert and Gerberga
Mother of Adalbert de Vermandois, II, Comte de Vermandois and Eudes, comte de Vermandois
Occupation: Comtesse de Bar-sur-Seine, de Tonnerre, Count of Vermandois
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#AlbertIdied987B as of 3/30/2016
ERMENGARDIS, daughter of ---. "Comes Heribertus" names "materque mea Pavia…pater meus Otto, eius genit
Preferred Parents:
Father: Adalbert de Bar-sur-Seine, b. ABT 935 in France
Mother: Gerberga ,
Family 1: Herbert De Vermandois III, b. environ 0954 in Vermand, Aisne, Hauts-de-France, France d. 29 AUG 1015 in Aisne, Picardie, France
- Milon de Tonnerre de Bar-sur-Seine Graf de Tonnerre, b. avant 0980 in Bar-sur-Seine, Aube, Champagne-Ardenne, France d. 1045
- Auguste De Vermandois, b. 985 in Roye, Somme, Picardie, France d. 1046 in Roye, Somme, Picardie, France
- Eudes de Vermandois I, b. 29 AUG 979 in Vermand, Aisne, Picardie, France d. 25 MAY 1045 in Vermandois, Normandy, France
Family 2: Milon De Tonnerre IV, b. environ 0965 in Normandie, France d. ABT 1016
- Renaud de Tonnerre I comte de Bar-sur-Seine AND Tonnerre, b. environ 0998 in Tonnerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France d. 22 JUL 1039 in Bar-sur-Seine, Aube, Champagne-Ardenne, France
Family 3: Herbert De Vermandois, b. ABT 942 in Normandie, France d. AFT 3 SEP 997 in Normandie, France
Sources:
- Title: Milon IV de Tonnerre, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002;
Note: Milon IV de Tonnerre, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Milon IV de Tonnerre, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Milon IV, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/143156999;
Note: Milon IV, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Milon IV, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Heribert IV, Eudes and Heribert VI de Vermandois, Comtes de Vermandois, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#Eudesdied1045B [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#Eudesdied1045B;
Note: Heribert IV, Eudes and Heribert VI de Vermandois, Comtes de Vermandois, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#Eudesdied1045B [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Heribert IV, Eudes and Heribert VI de Vermandois, Comtes de Vermandois, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#Eudesdied1045B [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Milon IV de Tonnerre, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/143156999;
Note: Milon IV de Tonnerre, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Milon IV de Tonnerre, Comte de Tonnerre, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloTonnerredied1002 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: ERMENGARDE
Author: FMG Projects/MedLands
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloIVTonnerredied1046A;
Note: MILON [IV] de Tonnerre ([950/65]-1002 or after)...m ERMENGARDE, daughter of --- (-after 1018).
Page: Source record for ERMENGARDE
- Title: Raoul and Rainard, Comtes de Bar-sur-Seine, in the Foundation for Medeival Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre;
Note: Raoul and Rainard, Comtes de Bar-sur-Seine, in the Foundation for Medeival Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Raoul and Rainard, Comtes de Bar-sur-Seine, in the Foundation for Medeival Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Albert I, Herbert III, Otho (Otto), Herbert IV, Counts of Vermandois in Ancetral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, pg. 134
Author: Albert I, Herbert III, Otho (Otto), Herbert IV, Counts of Vermandois in Ancetral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, pg. 134
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/165544462;
Note: Albert I, Herbert III, Otho (Otto), Herbert IV, Counts of Vermandois in Ancetral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, pg. 134
Page: Albert I, Herbert III, Otho (Otto), Herbert IV, Counts of Vermandois in Ancetral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, pg. 134
- Title: Raoul and Rainard, Comtes de Bar-sur-Seine, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre;
Note: Raoul and Rainard, Comtes de Bar-sur-Seine, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Raoul and Rainard, Comtes de Bar-sur-Seine, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Albert I, Herbert IV, Albert II and Eudes de Vermandois in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#AlbertIdied987A [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/138925012;
Note: Albert I, Herbert IV, Albert II and Eudes de Vermandois in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#AlbertIdied987A [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Albert I, Herbert IV, Albert II and Eudes de Vermandois in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#AlbertIdied987A [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: https://gw.geneanet.org/jonathanduron?lang=en&pz=jonathan&nz=duron&p=ermengarde+ermengardis&n=de+bar+sur+seine
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