Hedwig of Babenberg Duchess of Saxony

• Preferred Name: Hedwig of Babenberg Duchess of Saxony^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]}
  
• Alternate Name: Weglin
  
• Alternate Name: Hathui of Babenberg
  
• Alternate Name: DE SAXE
  
• Alternate Name: von Babenberg
  
• Alternate Name: von Bayern
  
• Gender: F
  
• AFN: with note: Description: 8HR7-P8 Prior research.
  
• Birth: 10 OCT 853 in Babenberg Castle, Bamberg, (Present Oberfranken), Herzogtum Bayern (Bavaria), Ostenfrankenreich (Present Germany at LATI: N9.8915 LONG: E0.8929 with note: Where is source for specific date and place
  
• LdsBaptism: 7 OCT 2002 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Burial: in Stift Gandersheim,Hzgt Sachsen, Ostenfrankenreich at LATI: N1 LONG: E3.25 with note: TRANSLATION - Burial in Gandersheim Abbey, Duke of Saxony, East Franconia
  
• NFS ID: with note: Description: MBY5-M4L NFS
  
• Royal House: with note: Description: Babenberg (Popponids)
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Duchess of SaxonyBET 880 AND 903
  
• LifeSketch: NOT MARRIED with note: Description: Hedwiga (also known as Hathui; c.?850/55-24 December 903), a member of the Elder House of Babenberg (Popponids), was Duchess of Saxony from about 880 until her death, by her marriage with the Liudolfing duke Otto the Illustrious. She is the mother of King
  
• Death: 24 DEC 903 in Sachsen, Germany at LATI: N1 LONG: E3.25
  
• Nickname:
  
• FSID: L8TG-1DR
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Hedwiga (also known as Haduich and Hathui; c.?850/55-24 December 903), a member of the Elder House of Babenberg (Popponids), was Duchess of Saxony from about 880 until her death, by her marriage with the Liudolfing duke Otto the Illustrious. She is the mother of King Henry the Fowler.
  
  «b»Life«/b»
  She probably was the daughter of Henry of Franconia (d. 886), documented as a princeps militiae of the East Frankish king Louis the Younger and dux of Austrasia under emperor Charles the Fat. Hedwiga's mother probably was related to the imperial Carolingian dynasty, however, a presumed descent of princess Gisela could not be conclusively established. Dux Henry died fighting against the Vikings during the Siege of Paris in West Francia.
  
  About 869/70 Hedwiga married Otto (d. 912), a younger son of late Saxon count Liudolf. Her husband's family had already achieved a dominating position in the stem duchy; Otto's sister Liutgard was married to King Louis the Younger about the same time. With the support of his brother-in-law King Louis the Younger, Otto succeeded as head of the Liudolfing dynasty and heir of the Saxon estates, when his elder brother Bruno was killed fighting against the Vikings in the 880 Battle of Lüneburg Heath. Hedwiga's husband remained a loyal supporter of the Carolingian dynasty, while he rose to the position of a Saxon duke (Herzog).
  
  Hedwiga and Otto had three sons: Henry the Fowler (who succeeded his father in 912) and his elder brothers Thankmar and Liudolf, who both died young; as well as a daughter, Oda who married King Zwentibold of Lotharingia, an illegitimate son of Emperor Arnulf, in 897.
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  HEDWIG of Grabfeldgau
  Born 854 – Died Dec 24, 903)
  Buried within the Abbey of Gandersheim, near Goslar
  Hedwig was married (869) to OTTO I the Illustrious (Born 836 – Died Nov 30, 912, and buried within the Abbey of Gandersheim), Duke of Saxony (880 – 912), the son of Luidolf, Duke of Saxony and his wife Oda of Franconia, the daughter of Billung I of Franconia, Count of Thuringia and his wife Aeda of Neustria, the granddaughter of the Emperor Charlemagne.
  Duchess Hedwig and Otto were the parents of
  HENRY I the Fowler
  
  the Peerage - Person Page - 10324 #103236 Hadwig von Babenberg
  Hadwig von Babenberg1
  F, #103236, b. circa 853, d. 24 December 903
  Last Edited=14 Dec 2015
  Hadwig von Babenberg was born circa 853.1 She is the daughter of Heinrich I von Babenberg and Ingeltrud
  
  === Still Living. ===
  Still Living.
  
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  === (Research):INVESTIGATE: Spouse> May have ===
  (Research):INVESTIGATE: Spouse> May have been married to Hucbald. Brandenburg's 'Die Nachkommen Karls des Grossen' table 1 gen 4 no 31.
  
  === IDENTITY: nun at San Salvatore at Bresci ===
  IDENTITY: nun at San Salvatore at Brescia Source: Author: Baldwin, Stewart Title: The Henry Project [database online] Publication Information: http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm Citation: Page: http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov Note: AFGS3 _TAG3 YES Note: AFGS3 _TAG4 YES
  
  === notes from paf record ===
  Ancestral File AFN:WNGG-DQ
  
  === also known as Hathui, or the Ducthess o ===
  also known as Hathui, or the Ducthess of Saxony
  
  === NOTE: Please help with reviewing and mer ===
  NOTE: Please help with reviewing and merging this couple's children!
  
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  Hedwiga (also known as Hathui; c. 850/55 – 24 December 903), a member of the Elder House of Babenberg (Popponids), was Duchess of Saxony from about 880 until her death, by her marriage with the Liudolfing duke Otto the Illustrious. She is the mother of King Henry the Fowler.
  
  She probably was the daughter of Henry of Franconia (d. 886), documented as a princeps militiae of the East Frankish king Louis the Younger and dux of Austrasia under emperor Charles the Fat. Hedwiga's mother probably was related to the imperial Carolingian dynasty, however, a presumed descent of princess Gisela could not be conclusively established. Dux Henry died fighting against the Vikings during the Siege of Paris in West Francia.
  
  About 869/70 Hedwiga married Otto (d. 912), a younger son of late Saxon count Liudolf. Her husband's family had already achieved a dominating position in the stem duchy; Otto's sister Liutgard was married to King Louis the Younger about the same time. With the support of his brother-in-law King Louis the Younger, Otto succeeded as head of the Liudolfing dynasty and heir of the Saxon estates, when his elder brother Bruno was killed fighting against the Vikings in the 880 Battle of Lüneburg Heath. Hedwiga's husband remained a loyal supporter of the Carolingian dynasty, while he rose to the position of a Saxon duke (Herzog).
  
  Hedwiga and Otto had three sons: Henry the Fowler (who succeeded his father in 912) and his elder brothers Thankmar and Liudolf, who both died young; as well as a daughter, Oda who married King Zwentibold of Lotharingia, an illegitimate son of Emperor Arnulf, in 897.
  
  === 2 SOUR S003844 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of ===
  2 SOUR S003844 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Sep 10, 2002 2 SOUR S003849 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Sep 10, 2002 2 SOUR S003854 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Sep 10, 2002 2 SOUR S003913 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Oct 9, 2002 2 SOUR S003918 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Oct 9, 2002 2 SOUR S003926 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Oct 10, 2002 2 SOUR S229184 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Dec 3, 2002 [Bryan William Alice 1.ged] Notes Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (141:17), "Charlemagne and His World" (Heer), shows OTTO's wife as dau. (illeg.) of Arnulf, King of Germany, Emp. (RIN 1443), & Oda of Bavria. . . however, Brandenburg shows no such dau. for Arnulf. Isenburg shows Hedwig as dau. of Heinrich, d.886, Markgraf of the Netherlands. Saillot says OTTO's wife was Hedwig, dau. of Henri, Compte de la Marche. Moriarity says Hedwig d. 24 Dec 903, does not identify parents. William Addams Reitwiesner posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 3 Apr 1997: Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother "Is there any concensus on the ascent of Hedwige wife of Otto? No. Actually, Stuart, for once, provides a reasonable review of the situation (although when it comes to showing the descent, he selects the same old bull). There seems to be a general concensus that the name Henry was brought to the family through Hedwige, but beyond that nothing. What can be rejected is the claim that she was daughter of Arnulf of Germany. This, unfortunately, was revived by Sheppard in Ancestral Roots (6th and 7th) crediting Stimmel, but of the sources he cites, Moriarty, Brandenburg, Winkhaus and Isenburg (the ones I have available) say nothing of the sort. Stuart himself states that one of the remaining does not contain the descent, while the sole remaining source, Saillot, cannot stand above the others, even if it does have the descent (which I somehow doubt). What is in ES? The Schwennicke edition of ES, Band I, Tafel 3, says, about Heinrich's parents: Otto, HERZOG VON SACHSEN (88 0), GRAF IN SUED-THUERINGEN (874), +30.XI.912; oo 869 Hathui, +(906). Nothing more." Matman posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 9 Apr 1997: Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother "There is quite a lot of german research into this. The current consensus (as summarised by E.Hlawitschka, in Rheinische Vierteljarhrblatter, 1974, p141ff) is that she was a daughter of Margrave Henry who died at Paris against the Normans 28.8.886 (he also often appears with other titles: Duke of the Austrasians, is one of them). Her mother was (according to the same author) probably a granddaughter of St.Ida (d.c.820) and the Saxon Count Egbert (flor. 809-11)." Keats-Rohan, in the article "Poppa of Bayeux and her family" (TAG lxxii, Jul/Oct 1997, 187-204), identifies Hedwig's mother as Ingeltrude (RIN 9406*), daughter of EBERHARD, MARQUIS OF FRIULI, however. . . abwilson@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Alan B. Wilson) posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com on 21 Jul 1999 Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother. . "As far as I am presently aware, no reliable argument from contemporary sources exists to support the Friuli descent. The exhaustive and meticulous account of Charlemagne's descendants by K.F. Werner in the fourth volume of *Karl der Grosse: Lebenswerk und Nachleben* accepts contemporary evidence for the marriage of only one of the daughters of Louis the Pious' daughter Gisla (819X822-874) by Eberhard of Friuli: Heilwic (d. 895), who married first a Count Hucbald (d. 890) and then Roger, count at Laon (d. 926). The Ingeltrude who is named below as dying "after 840" was, according to Werner, born in 837 and died in 870, and he indicates no marriage for her nor for the other two daughters, Gisla (died a nun in 863) and Jutta (also died 863)." KHF333@aol.com posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com on 22 Jul 1999 Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother. . ". . . I have found nothing in the Keats-Rohan article that actually proves anything about this alleged descent. She is primarily engaged in the c ollection of a database of prosopography - with the eventual intent of documenting all names and sources from earlier records. Now this can indeed be confusing when one takes all this conflicting information and attempts to form conclusions from it. Her views on this, to my mind, is a classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees."[Bryan William Katherine De GRANDISON 2.ged] Notes Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (141:17), "Charlemagne and His World" (Heer), shows OTTO's wife as dau. (illeg.) of Arnulf, King of Germany, Emp. (RIN 1443), & Oda of Bavria. . . however, Brandenburg shows no such dau. for Arnulf. Isenburg shows Hedwig as dau. of Heinrich, d.886, Markgraf of the Netherlands. Saillot says OTTO's wife was Hedwig, dau. of Henri, Compte de la Marche. Moriarity says Hedwig d. 24 Dec 903, does not identify parents. William Addams Reitwiesner posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 3 Apr 1997: Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother "Is there any concensus on the ascent of Hedwige wife of Otto? No. Actually, Stuart, for once, provides a reasonable review of the situation (although when it comes to showing the descent, he selects the same old bull). There seems to be a general concensus that the name Henry was brought to the family through Hedwige, but beyond that nothing. What can be rejected is the claim that she was daughter of Arnulf of Germany. This, unfortunately, was revived by Sheppard in Ancestral Roots (6th and 7th) crediting Stimmel, but of the sources he cites, Moriarty, Brandenburg, Winkhaus and Isenburg (the ones I have available) say nothing of the sort. Stuart himself states that one of the remaining does not contain the descent, while the sole remaining source, Saillot, cannot stand above the others, even if it does have the descent (which I somehow doubt). What is in ES? The Schwennicke edition of ES, Band I, Tafel 3, says, about Heinrich's parents: Otto, HERZOG VON SACHSEN (880), GRAF IN SUED-THUERINGEN (874), +30.XI.912; oo 869 Hathui, +(906) . Nothing more." Matman posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 9 Apr 1997: Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother "There is quite a lot of german research into this. The current consensus (as summarised by E.Hlawitschka, in Rheinische Vierteljarhrblatter, 1974, p141ff) is that she was a daughter of Margrave Henry who died at Paris against the Normans 28.8.886 (he also often appears with other titles: Duke of the Austrasians, is one of them). Her mother was (according to the same author) probably a granddaughter of St.Ida (d.c.820) and the Saxon Count Egbert (flor. 809-11)." Keats-Rohan, in the article "Poppa of Bayeux and her family" (TAG lxxii, Jul/Oct 1997, 187-204), identifies Hedwig's mother as Ingeltrude (RIN 9406*), daughter of EBERHARD, MARQUIS OF FRIULI, however. . . abwilson@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Alan B. Wilson) posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com on 21 Jul 1999 Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother. . "As far as I am presently aware, no reliable argument from contemporary sources exists to support the Friuli descent. The exhaustive and meticulous account of Charlemagne's descendants by K.F. Werner in the fourth volume of *Karl der Grosse: Lebenswerk und Nachleben* accepts contemporary evidence for the marriage of only one of the daughters of Louis the Pious' daughter Gisla (819X822-874) by Eberhard of Friuli: Heilwic (d. 895), who married first a Count Hucbald (d. 890) and then Roger, count at Laon (d. 926). The Ingeltrude who is named below as dying "after 840" was, according to Werner, born in 837 and died in 870, and he indicates no marriage for her nor for the other two daughters, Gisla (died a nun in 863) and Jutta (also died 863)." KHF333@aol.com posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com on 22 Jul 1999 Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother. . ". . . I have found nothing in the Keats-Rohan article that actually proves anything about this alleged descent. She is primarily engaged in the collection of a database of prosopography - with the eventual intent of documenting all names and sources from earlier records. Now this can indeed be confusing when one takes all this conflicting information and attempts to form conclusions from it. Her views on this, to my mind, is a classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees."[Bryan William Katherine De GRANDISON 8.ged] Notes Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (141:17), "Charlemagne and His World" (Heer), shows OTTO's wife as dau. (illeg.) of Arnulf, King of Germany, Emp. (RIN 1443), & Oda of Bavria. . . however, Brandenburg shows no such dau. for Arnulf. Isenburg shows Hedwig as dau. of Heinrich, d.886, Markgraf of the Netherlands. Saillot says OTTO's wife was Hedwig, dau. of Henri, Compte de la Marche. Moriarity says Hedwig d. 24 Dec 903, does not identify parents. William Addams Reitwiesner posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 3 Apr 1997: Subject: Re: Henry the Fowler's mother "Is there any concensus on the ascent of Hedwige wife of Otto? No. Actually, Stuart, for once, provides a reasonable review of the situation (although when it comes to showing the descent, he selects the same old bull). There seems to be a general concensus that the name Henry was brought to the family through Hedwige, but beyond that nothing. What can be rejected is the claim that she was daughter of Arnulf of Germany. This, unfortunately, was revived by Sheppard in Ancestral Roots (6th and 7th) crediting Stimmel, but of the sources he cites, Moriarty, Brandenburg, Winkhaus and Isenburg (the ones I have available) say nothing of the sort. Stuart himself states that one of the remaining does not contain the descent, while the sole remaining source, Saillot, cannot stand above the others, even if it does have the descent (which I somehow doubt). What is in ES? The Schwennicke edition of ES, Band I, Tafel 3, says, about Heinrich's parents: Otto, HERZOG VON SACHSEN (880), GRAF IN SUED-THUERINGEN (874), +30.XI.912; oo 869 Hathui, +(906). Nothing more." Matman posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 9 Ap

• m. aproximadamente 0871 in Prussia, German Empire

1. Oda von Sachsen, b. 884 in Sachsen, Germany     d. 2 de julho de 0952 in Lothringen, Heiliges Römisches Reich
2. Thietmar Von Merseburg I, b. 872 in Merseburg, Saale, Sachsen-Anhalt, Deutschland     d. 1 JUN 932 in Thuringia, Germany
3. Irminburg Kotechind von Sachsen, b. 895 in Schwaben, Chemnitzer Land, Sachsen, Deutschland     d. 10 JAN 937 in Merseburg, Saalekreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Deutschland
4. Liudolf von Sachsen I, b. 876 in Pfalz Memleben, Ostfranken, Ostfrankenreich     d. vor 0912
5. Heinrich von Sachsen I the Fowler, b. 7 JUL 876 in Memleben, Burgenlandkreis, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany     d. 2 JUL 936 in Memleben, Eckartsberga, Saxony, Germany

1. Title: Hadwiga of Babenberg, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVK9-TY9C : 7 August 2020), Hadwiga of Babenberg, ; Burial, Bad Gandersheim, Landkreis Northeim, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany, Stiftskirche Gandersheim; citing record ID 35908778, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVK9-TY9C;
   
2. Title: Hatheburg and Heinrich, King of Germany in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#HatheburgM2HeinrichIGermany [See document in the Memories section]
   Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#HatheburgM2HeinrichIGermany;
   Note: Hatheburg and Heinrich, King of Germany in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#HatheburgM2HeinrichIGermany [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Hatheburg and Heinrich, King of Germany in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#HatheburgM2HeinrichIGermany [See document in the Memories section]
   
3. Title: Wikipedia.org - Hedwiga of Babenberg
   Author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedwiga
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedwiga;
   
4. Title: -
   Page: Heinrich I, King of Germany in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMANY,%20Kings.htm#HeinrichIGermanydied936B [See document in the Memories section]
   
5. Title: Hedwige van Babenberg (± 853-903)
   Author: A Family Tree
   Publication: Name: https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/stamboom-ham/I13041.php;
   Note: Personal data Hedwige van Babenberg She was born about 853. She died on December 24, 903. A child of Hendrik (Henri) van Babenberg and Ingetrude van Frioul
   Page: Spouse's data is a match.
   
6. Title: Hadwiga of Babenberg, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVK9-TY9C : 7 August 2020), Hadwiga of Babenberg, ; Burial, Bad Gandersheim, Landkreis Northeim, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany, Stiftskirche Gandersheim; citing record ID 35908778, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVK9-TY9C;
   
7. Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
   Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/2677701;