Adelaide von Paris

• Preferred Name: Adelaide von Paris^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]}
  
• Alternate Name: Angilberga of Paris
  
• Alternate Name: Aléis De Frioul
  
• Alternate Name: Adélais
  
• Alternate Name: Ansgardis of Paris
  
• Alternate Name: Adélaïde Queen of Franks
  
• Alternate Name: Adelais
  
• Alternate Name: Aélis
  
• Alternate Name: Adélaïde of Western France
  
• Alternate Name: Aélis De Paris
  
• Alternate Name: DE FRANCIA
  
• Alternate Name: Adéle
  
• Alternate Name: Adelheid of Paris
  
• Alternate Name: Judith of Friuli
  
• Alternate Name: Adélaïde de Paris Reine des Francs
  
• Alternate Name: Adelheid
  
• Alternate Name: Adelais d'Angoulême
  
• Alternate Name: Adélaida
  
• Alternate Name: Adélaïde De Paris
  
• Gender: F
  
• Title (Nobility): 877 with note: Description: Queen of Western France
  
• Royal House: with note: Description: Carolingian
  
• Birth: 10 APR 853 in Île-de-France, France at LATI: N8.8747 LONG: E0.5002
  
• Burial: AFT 10 NOV 901 in Compiègne, Oise, Picardie, France at LATI: N9.4158 LONG: E0.8225
  
• Death: 10 NOV 901 in Laon, Aisne, Picardie, France at LATI: N9.5632 LONG: E0.6133
  
• Title (Nobility): 867 with note: Description: Queen of Aquataine
  
• FSID: LCDW-ZQK
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Adélaïde of Paris (or Aélis) (c. 850/853-10 November 901) was the second wife of Louis the Stammerer, King of Western Francia, and was the mother of Princess Ermentrude and King Charles the Simple.
  
  Life
  Adelaide was the daughter of the count palatine Adalard of Paris. Her maternal great-grandfather was Bégon, Count of Paris. Her great-grandmother, Alpaïs, wife of Bégon, was the illegitimate daughter of Louis the Pious by an unnamed mistress.
  
  Adelaide was chosen by Charles the Bald, King of Western Francia, to marry his son and heir, Louis the Stammerer, despite the fact that Louis had secretly married Ansgarde of Burgundy against the wishes of his father. Although Louis and Ansgarde already had two children, Louis and Carloman, Charles prevailed upon Pope John VIII, to dissolve the union. This accomplished, Charles married his son to Adelaide in February 875.
  
  However, the marriage was called into question because of the close blood-kinship of the pair. When on 7 September 878 the pope crowned Louis (who had succeeded his father in the previous year), the pope refused to crown Adelaide.
  
  When Louis the Stammerer died in Compiegne on 10 April 879, Adelaide was pregnant, giving birth on 17 September 879, to Charles the Simple. The birth of this child led to a dispute between Adelaide and Ansgarde. Ansgarde and her sons accused Adelaide of adultery; Adelaide in turn disputed the right of Ansgarde's sons to inherit. Eventually, Adelaide succeeded in winning the case; but despite this, Ansgarde's sons Louis and Carloman remained kings until their deaths without heirs in 882 and 884 respectively, with the crown then being contested between Odo, Count of Paris and Charles the Fat.
  
  Charles eventually succeeded to his father's throne in 898; his mother assisted in crowning him. She died in Laon on 10 November 901 and was buried in the Abbey of Saint-Corneille, Compiègne, Picardy.
  
  Confusion about Ansgarde
  Louis the Stammerer is listed with two wives named Ansgarde. This is in error, especially since both are listed with the same death date. This Ansgarde has to be the correct one. The other (LCDW-ZQ
  
  Confusion of Ansgarde
  The Ansgarde born in 826 was too young to be a daughter of Hardouin, the daughter who married Louis the Stammerer. Therefore, the Ansgarde born in 848, has to be correct. Also, the fact that both An
  
  === !SOURCE: "Magna Charta," Part VIII, by J ===
  !SOURCE: "Magna Charta," Part VIII, by John B. Wurts, chp 285, pp2693 -2699
  
  === aka Adelaide Liudolfing, Queen of Franks ===
  aka Adelaide Liudolfing, Queen of Franks. Apparently there is some confusion re her father - two are given here. One is Adalard, Count of the Palace, s/o Wulfhard and Susannah; the other is Ludolph, Duke of Saxony.
  Brian Tompsett does not name her parents.
  
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  === Family info ===
  Family:
  
  Daughter of Adalhard, count of Paris and N.N.
  Wife of Louis II the Stammerer, king of the West Franks
  Mother of Ermentrude of France and Charles III the Simple, king of the Franks
  Sister of Wulfard, abbé de Flavigny
  
  === AR names her Ermengarde, a mistress with ===
  AR names her Ermengarde, a mistress with no parents indicated. Turton names her Adelaide of France, daughter of Louis II m. (1), 862, Ansgarde, daughter of Hardouin. I have Ansgarde as the 2nd wife, although either or both of Lous II's 1st & 2nd wives could have been mistresses - not wives.
  
  === children ===
  children
  
  === children known ===
  children known
  
  === Louis II, "the Stammerer", King of the F ===
  Louis II, "the Stammerer", King of the Franks and Emperor; m. (3), 868/70Adelaide (or Aelis) of Paris, d. c 10 Nov 901, probably (not proven)daughter of Bego, Count of Paris (d. 861) (Brandenburg), or daughter ofCount Girard (Saillot, "Sang de Charlemagne 201). [Ancestral Roots, line143-16]
  
  The other reference in AR (148-16) states that Adelaide is 2nd wife. Whoknows?
  
  The parents of Adelaide are not proven. The way that I have it is one ofthe "prevalent" ancestries for Adeliade. Others exist, as indicated inthe two postings to soc.genealogy.medieval by Todd Farmerie (whom I havegreat respect for), which I have copied below:
  
  ----[message #1]---------------
  
  From: Todd A. Farmerie (taf2@po.cwru.edu)
  Subject: Re: Adelaide of Paris
  Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
  Date: 2000/02/15
  
  l.akershoek@hccnet.nl wrote:
  
  > Please, can someone inform me who is the real father (and ancestors) of
  > Adelaide of Paris, as I have two names (see numbers 6, below).
  >
  > 1 CHARLES III of France, married (2) EADGYFU VAN WESSEX,
  > 2 LOUIS II DER FRANKEN, born in 844 or (November 1, 846 ?),
  > Louis was married before (in 862) to ANSGARDE of
  > BOURGONDY, born in the year 840. He married (3) to his
  > great-aunt EMMA von Altdorf, who died January 31, 876,
  > d/o WELF III and EDITH. LOUIS married (2) in February 868
  > 3 ADELAIDE de PARIS, born ca 855, died in Compiegne (Fr) on
  > November 14, 901.
  >
  > Here I must be wrong. So please help me correct. If ADELAIDE of Parisdied
  > in 901, how could LOUIS marry EMMA, who died in 876.
  
  This confuses two Louis, uncle and nephew. Louis II of France, husbandof Adelaide, was married only twice, to Ansgarde and Adelaide. Louis IIof Germany, son of Louis the Pious, married Emma, who was daughter ofWelf (but his wife's name was not Edith).
  
  > 6 GERARD II de PARIS, born 830, died in the year 870.
  > 7 EVA BERTHE d' AUXERRE, born in the year 830, died before.
  >
  > OR?:
  > 6 BEGGO II de PARIS, s/o EBERHARD de Paris
  > 7 NN
  >
  > Who can tell me how this ahnentafel (and dates) shoud be?
  > Thank you for your cooperation and help.
  
  Adelaide's parentage is subject to much debate. Most agree she was ofCarolingian descent, and IIRC, a couple of brothers are well attested.Likewise, there seems to be agreement that she descended from Bego I, butthe intervening generations are guesswork, and the two versions you haveare two of the guesses I have seen.
  
  taf
  
  ------[message #2]----------
  
  From: Todd A. Farmerie (farmerie@interfold.com)
  Subject: Re: Adelaide de Palatine & Adelaide de Paris
  Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
  Date: 2001-11-11 21:17:05 PST
  
  Alineb45@aol.com wrote:
  >
  > For some strange reason I have Adelaide de Palatine b.abt 855 d. abt 901
  > daughter of Adalhard de Palatine & ?? married to Louis II de France.
  > I also have Adelaide (Aelis) de Paris b. abt 855 d. abt 901 daughter of
  > Gerald II de Paris & Eve d'Auxerre who is not married to anyone!
  > But what I am finding on other web based data bases is that Adelaide deParis
  > is married to Louis II de France.
  >
  > Now which one is the correct one?
  
  It is all speculation. There is no source that directly attests to thenames of her parents, so there is no right answer (although there arewrong ones).
  
  taf
  
  === Queen of the Franks ===
  Queen of the Franks

• m. FEB 875

1. Ermentrude , b. ABT 874 in Orleans, Loiret, Centre-Val de Loire, France     d. 914 in Städteregion Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
2. Charles III le Simple roi de France occidentale, b. 17 SEP 879 in Clermont, Oise, Picardie, France     d. 7 October 0929. 50 years old in Francières, Oise, Picardie, France

1. Title: ANSGARDE OF BURGUNDY MEDIEVAL QUEEN OF AQUITAINE
   Publication: Name: https://peoplepill.com/people/ansgarde-of-burgundy/;
   Note: Ansgarde of Burgundy (d. 880/882) was a French queen of Aquitaine, but never of West Francia, the daughter of Hardouin of Burgundy. She secretly married Louis II of France before he was king; her sons became Louis III and Carloman II of France.Because Charles the Bald wished to marry his son to Adélaïde de Frioul, he had to seek a papal annulment; this he did, and Adélaïde married Louis in February 875. Ansgarde was thus repudiated, but at the death of Louis II in 879 she worked to ensure that her sons could mount the throne of France themselves. To that end, she sought to revisit the subject of her divorce with the archbishop of Reims. Adélaïde, however, was pregnant, and gave birth to a son on September 17 of that year, which thus called into doubt the inheritance of Ansgarde's own sons. Ansgarde and her sons attacked Adélaïde's marriage, accusing her of adultery; consequently, Louis and Carloman mounted the throne together. However, both died without issue, and after a long and difficult process Adélaïde finally saw her son confirmed as Charles III, the only legitimate heir to the throne. Ansgarde passes into obscurity after this episode, and the date of her death is not conclusively known.
   
2. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Author: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Adelaisdied901;
   
3. Title: Ansgarde of Burgundy - enacademic.com
   Publication: Name: https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/10968235;
   Note: Ansgarde of Burgundy (826-880/882) was a French queen, the daughter of Hardouin of Burgundy. She secretly married Louis II of France when he was still a prince; her sons became Louis III and Carloman II of France. At the time of the marriage, Ansgarde was 36 years old; Louis was only 16. Because Charles the Bald wished to marry his son off to Adélaïde de Frioul, he had to seek a papal annulment; this he did, and Adélaïde married Louis in February of 878. Ansgarde was thus repudiated, but at the death of Louis II in 879 she worked to ensure that her sons could mount the throne of France themselves. To that end, she sought to revisit the subject of her divorce with the archbishop of Reims. Adélaïde, however, was pregnant, and gave birth too a son on September 17 of that year, which thus called into doubt the inheritance of Ansgarde's own sons. Ansgarde and her sons attacked Adélaïde's marriage, accusing her of adultery; consequently, Louis and Carloman mounted the throne together. However, both died without issue, and after a long and difficult process Adélaïde finally saw her son confirmed as Charles III, the only legitimate heir to the throne. Ansgarde passes into obscurity after this episode, and the date of her death is not conclusively known.
   
4. Title: Adelaide of Paris
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_of_Paris;
   
5. Title: Find A Grave
   Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/87801201/adelaide-judith_of-paris;
   
6. Title: Adelaide Judith of Paris, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLW-9CLS : 12 June 2020), Adelaide Judith of Paris, 901; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLW-9CLS;
   
7. Title: Ansgarde of Burgundy From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansgarde_of_Burgundy;
   Note: Ansgarde of Burgundy (d. 880/882) was a French queen of Aquitaine, but never of West Francia, the daughter of Hardouin of Burgundy. She secretly married Louis II of France before he was king; her sons became Louis III and Carloman II of France. Because Charles the Bald wished to marry his son to Adelaide of Paris, he had to seek a papal annulment; this he did, and Adelaide married Louis in February 875. Ansgarde was thus repudiated, but at the death of Louis II in 879 she worked to ensure that her sons could mount the throne of France themselves. To that end, she sought to revisit the subject of her divorce with the archbishop of Reims. Adelaide, however, was pregnant, and gave birth to a son on September 17 of that year, which thus called into doubt the inheritance of Ansgarde's own sons. Ansgarde and her sons attacked Adelaide's marriage, accusing her of adultery; consequently, Louis and Carloman mounted the throne together. However, both died without issue, and after a long and difficult process Adelaide finally saw her son confirmed as Charles III, the only legitimate heir to the throne. Ansgarde passes into obscurity after this episode, and the date of her death is not conclusively known.