Liudolf von Sachsen

• Preferred Name: Liudolf von Sachsen^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]}
  
• Alternate Name: Ludolph of Saxony
  
• Alternate Name: Ludolph Duke of Saxony
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: LC58-L2Q
  
• Birth: ABT 810 in Herzfeld, Kreis Beckum, Westphalia, Prussia, German Empire at LATI: N1.6665 LONG: E0.1465
  
• Burial: MAR 866 in Brunshausen, Bad Gandersheim, Northeim, Lower Saxony, Germany at LATI: N1.8817 LONG: E0.0306 with note: .
  
• Gandersheim+Abbey: 852
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Duke
  
• Christening: in Limes Saxoniae - Duke of the East Saxons at LATI: N21.2045 LONG: E65.2626 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Death: 12 MAR 866 in Brunohausen, Sachsen, Germany at LATI: N1 LONG: E3.25
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Gräf von Sachsen (Count of Saxony)
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Count in the Duchy of SaxonyBET 844 AND 866
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  fmg.ac. (n.d.). SAXONY DUKES. [online] Available at: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#_Toc484586537.
  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_(Sachsen)
  Please read re Liudolf:
  
  The basis of this conjecture is the record mentioned above in which a Liudolf is called a brother of a Cobbo ["Tradidit Bardo comes pro remedio anime Liudulfi familias XVIII in pago Bardengo. ... quidquid ipse Ludolfus habuit in pago Bardengo, ... exceptis seorsum denominatis familiis, quas ipse suo germano Cobboni atque suo propinquo Fresgario ad redimendum reliquerat. Omnia Bardo comes tradidit ... hac ei potestate contradita ab uxore Ludolfi atque a suis propinquis. ... ut predicti Ludolfi uxor ea possedeat usque ad obitum suum, ..." Trad. Corb., 76, B §350 (A §126)]. Some have identified this Liudolf with Liudolf of Saxony, and the brother Cobbo with either the son or grandson of Egbert, resulting in Liudolf being placed as a son or grandson of Egbert. The two variations are discussed in more detail on the page of Liudolf. The principle objection to the identification of this Liudolf (who was deceased at the time of the entry) as Liudolf of Saxony is that the date of the entry has been estimated in the 840's, whereas Liudolf of Saxony died in 866. Thus, it is probable that the Liudolf of the Corvey tradition was a different man from duke Liudolf of Saxony.
  
  fasg.org. (n.d.). Egbert, Saxon count. [online] Available at: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/egber001.htm [Accessed 11 Jun. 2021].
  
  Liudolf's ancestry cannot be determined with certainty. In the biography of the first abbess Hathumod from Gandersheim, a daughter of Liudolf, written around 877, the monk Agius claims that Liudolf comes from the most respected family in Saxony. In her poem Primordia, written in the middle of the 10th century, Hrotsvit von Gandersheim also reports that Liudolf came from “extremely noble” parents, whose names she could not or did not want to mention.
  
  In the biography of the Franconian noblewoman Ida von Herzfeld from around 980, the vita s. Idae of the Werden monk Uffing, Uffing alleges that Liudolf and his son Otto the illustrious did not take care of Ida's grave without saying that they did so would only have been obliged as descendants. [5] In addition, Liudolf buried his son, who died in childhood, there. This burial place was on the Herzfeld farm, which first belonged to Ida's husband Ekbert, then Liudolf and finally Otto the illustrious, until he exchanged it for properties in Beek near Duisburg. Albert K. Hömberg therefore came to the conclusion that Liudolf was the grandson of Ida and Ekbert. [6] In fact, Ida's son Cobbo, like Liudolf a close confidante of Ludwig the German, had a son named Liudolf from his marriage to Eila
  
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  Liudolfs Abstammung ist nicht sicher zu bestimmen.[1] In der um 877 verfassten Lebensbeschreibung der ersten Gandersheimer Äbtissin Hathumod, einer Tochter Liudolfs, behauptet der Mönch Agius, Liudolf entstamme dem angesehensten Geschlecht in Sachsen.[2] Auch Hrotsvit von Gandersheim berichtet in ihrem Mitte des 10. Jahrhunderts entstandenen Gedicht Primordia,[3] Liudolf stamme von „überaus adligen“ Eltern ab, deren Namen sie jedoch nicht erwähnen konnte oder wollte.[4]
  
  In der um 980 entstandenen Lebensbeschreibung der fränkischen Adligen Ida von Herzfeld, der Vita s. Idae des Werdener Mönches Uffing, erhebt dieser den Vorwurf, Liudolf und sein Sohn Otto der Erlauchte hätten sich nicht um das Grab Idas gekümmert, ohne auszusprechen, dass sie dazu nur als Abkömmlinge verpflichtet gewesen wären.[5] Zudem habe Liudolf seinen im Kindesalter verstorbenen Sohn dort beigesetzt. Diese Grablege befand sich auf dem Hof Herzfeld, der zunächst Idas Mann Ekbert, dann Liudolf und schließlich Otto dem Erlauchten gehörte, bis dieser ihn gegen Besitzungen in Beek bei Duisburg eintauschte. Albert K. Hömberg gelangte deshalb zu dem Ergebnis, Liudolf sei der Enkel Idas und Ekberts.[6] Tatsächlich hatte Idas Sohn Cobbo, wie Liudolf ein enger Vertrauter Ludwig des Deutschen, aus seiner Ehe mit Eila einen Sohn namens Liudolf.
  
  de.zxc.wiki. (n.d.). Liudolf (Saxony) - zxc.wiki. [online] Available at: https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Liudolf_(Sachsen). Less
  
  Addiionally:
  
  However, as Hlawitschka has noted, the assumption that Liudolf was an heir of Egbert probably reads too much into the statements of the Life of St. Ida [Hlawitschka (1974), 156-9]. This source does not actually state that Liudolf held Herzfeld, only that he buried a son there. When it states that duke Otto was awarded Herzfeld by law, this was presumably after 880 (when Otto became duke), and therefore many years after the hereditary succession of unknown individuals to Egbert and Ida mentioned earlier. The Liudolfinger were from eastern Saxony, while Herzfeld is in Westfalen. Also, the fact that Otto II sold Herzfeld does not suggest that it was land long in hereditary possession of his family.
  
  fasg.org. (n.d.). Egbert, Saxon count. [online] Available at: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/egber001.htm [Accessed 11 Jun. 2021].
  
  === !NOTE: Ancestors of John Gerald Haring.; ===
  !NOTE: Ancestors of John Gerald Haring.; ; ; ; ;
  
  === notes from paf record ===
  Ancestral File AFN:FLH2-FQ
  
  === notes from paf record ===
  Ancestral File AFN: GS5S-14
  
  === Birth Date circa - Duke of Saxony Birth ===
  Birth Date circa - Duke of Saxony Birth Date circa - Duke of Saxony
  
  === Ludolph was Duke of Saxony. ===
  Ludolph was Duke of Saxony.
  
  === Markgraaf von Ringelheim ===
  
  === Duke of Saxony ===
  Duke of Saxony
  
  === MAR LIC #836 ===
  MAR LIC #836
  
  === Name Suffix: Duke of Saxony
  REFN: ===
  Name Suffix: Duke of Saxony
  REFN: HWS5727
  Ancestral File Number: FLH2-FQ
  OBJE: C:\LEGACY\PICTURES\C_Duc.gif
  OBJE: C:\LEGACY\PICTURES\Saxe.GIF
  
  === Duke of Saxony 859 Duke of Saxony 859 Du ===
  Duke of Saxony 859 Duke of Saxony 859 Duke of Saxony 859
  
  === ch known ===
  ch known
  
  === !Brown book 5, P C 214. ===
  !Brown book 5, P C 214.
  
  === --Other Fields _TAG: ===
  --Other Fields _TAG:
  
  === Called "The Great". ===
  Called "The Great".
  
  === Duke of Saxony 859, ===
  Duke of Saxony 859,
  
  === Ancestral File AFN:FLH2-FQ ===
  Ancestral File AFN:FLH2-FQ
  
  === [Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] "Ludolfe, Lud ===
  [Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] "Ludolfe, Ludolph" Duke of Saxony. Source: Ahnentafel for Edward III of England SOUR O'Shea/Charlemagne qvc; Buell001.zip

1. Liutgard von Sachsen, b. ABT 845 in Reichenbach Oberlausitz, Görlitz, Saxony, Germany     d. ABT 895 in Aschaffenburg, Bavaria, Germany
2. Wichman Bennids Billung I, b. 799 in Wetigau, Schwalenberg, Lippe, Nord-Rheinland-Westphalen     d. AFT 10 NOV 855
3. Oda von Sachsen, b. 849 in Kurfürstentum Sachsen, Heiliges Römisches Reich     d. 29 NOV 874 in Bad Gandersheim, Northeim, Hanover, Prussia, German Empire
4. Waldrada von Sachsen, b. 835 in Alsace, France     d. 4 SEP 900 in Lorraine, Holy Roman Empire
5. Otto of Saxony I the Illustrious, b. 23 NOV 836 in Saxony, Germany     d. 30 NOV 912 in Saxony, Germany
6. Billung de Saxony, II, b. 840 in Europe     d. 888

1. Title: Medlands Project
   Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B;
   Page: Contains parentage father Bruno.
   
2. Title: Liudolf von Sachsen, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGR-82H2 : 3 April 2023), Liudolf von Sachsen, ; Burial, Bad Gandersheim, Landkreis Northeim, Lower Saxony Niedersachsen, Germany, Stiftskirche Gandersheim; citing record ID 132067250, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGR-82H2;
   Page: Burial information.
   
3. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Ludolph of Saxony -
   Author: Ancestral File (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2041640822
   
4. Title: Wikipedia: Liudolf von Sachsen
   Author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf,_Duke_of_Saxony https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_(Sachsen) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_de_Saxe
   Publication: Name: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_(Sachsen);
   Page: Family Tree
   
5. Title: Ancestry Family Trees
   Author: Ancestry Family Tree
   
6. Title: Findagrave
   Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/132067250/liudolf-von_sachsen;
   
7. Title: Liudolf von Sachsen, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGR-82H2 : 3 April 2023), Liudolf von Sachsen, ; Burial, Bad Gandersheim, Landkreis Northeim, Lower Saxony Niedersachsen, Germany, Stiftskirche Gandersheim; citing record ID 132067250, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGR-82H2;
   
8. Title: Germany, Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
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