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Bego Marquis of Septimania Count of Paris
- Preferred Name: Bego Marquis of Septimania Count of Paris[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
- Alternate Name: Bego Graf von Paris
- Alternate Name: Bego I von Paris
- Alternate Name: van Toulouse
- Gender: M
- Nickname:
- Birth: ABT 757 in Paris, Île-de-France, France at LATI: N8.8667 LONG: E0.3333
- Count+of+Paris: 811 with note: Description: Count of Paris was a title for the local Noble Man of the district around Paris in Carolingian times. This was not a hereditary title.
Beggo was Count of Paris: 811/815 - 816.
See Sources
- Burial: 1 NOV 816 in Paris, Île-De-France, France at LATI: N8.8667 LONG: E0.3333
- Royal+House: with note: Description: Girardides
- Count+of+Toulouse: 806 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, France at LATI: N3.604 LONG: E0.443 with note: Description: The Count of Toulouse was the ruler of Toulouse during the 8th to 13th centuries. Originating as vassals of the Frankish kings. Hereditary Counts did not rule the city of Toulouse and its surrounding county until the late 9th century until 1270.
Beggo of Paris was Count of Toulouse from 806 - Until his death in 816.
Toulouse is in Southern France.
See Sources
- Reino: BET 806 AND 816 in Septimanie,França at LATI: N6 LONG: E0 with note: GEDCOM data
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: with note: Description: Marquis of Septimania
- Reino: BET 815 AND 816 in Paris at LATI: N8.8667 LONG: E0.3333 with note: GEDCOM data
- Death: 28 OCT 816 in Paris, Île-de-France, France at LATI: N8.8667 LONG: E0.3333
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: with note: Description: Count of Paris
- FSID: LZZH-M76
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Beggo (died 28 October 816) was the son of Gerard I of Paris. He was appointed Count of Toulouse, Duke of Septimania, Duke of Aquitaine, and Margrave of the Hispanic March in 806 and followed his father as Count of Paris in 815.
In 806, William of Gellone abdicated and Charlemagne appointed Beggo to take his place in Toulouse and the March of Gothia. He did not succeed his father in Paris, but was later placed in the comital office there, but did not live long after that.
He married Alpais, grand-daughter of Charlemagne. Their children were:
Leuthard II, who later ruled Paris
Eberhard
He may also have been the father of the following children, by one or more other women.[1]
Landrade
Susanna, whose son was Adalhard, eighth Count of Paris
Engeltrude, whose son was Eberhard of Friuli.
Source: Wikipedia
=== Alternate first name ===
Alternate first names: Bego, Beggp
=== There may be two different people with s ===
There may be two different people with similar names and wives, which even Ancestral Roots gets confused. This one (AR line 143-16), who d. 961, is proposed as father of Adelaide of Paris by Ancestral Roots referring to Brandenburg as a source. Then under the other one (AR line 191-14), who d. 916, AR states Begue's wife was Aupals (Alpais), natural daughter of Charlemagne, but that Brandenburg shows her a daughter of Louis I, "the Fair". A daughter of Louis I makes sense as wife of this Bego (d. 961), not the one who d. in 916.
Thus I use the reference for the other Begue's wife as a source for this Bego's wife. Of course they could be the same person, but Adelaide's dates would have to change dramatically if that were true.
=== 1 _UID 75356B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C ===
1 _UID 75356B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C4A71
Preferred Parents:
Father: Gerhard Graf von Paris I, b. 5 JAN 740 in Paris, Ile-De-France, , France d. 27 MAR 779 in Paris, Île-de-France, France
Mother: Rotrude d'Austrasia , b. 742 in Alsace, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France d. 30 APR 783 in Brosse, Seine-et-Marne, Ile-de-France, France
Family 1: Alpais Carolingian, b. ABT 793 d. 23 JUL 852 in Reims, Francia
- Suzanne de Paris, b. ABT 807 in Paris, France d. 865 in Paris, Seine, France
- Landrée de Paris, b. 810 in Paris, Île-de-France, France d. 846
- Ermentrude de París, b. ABT 780 in Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italia d. 26 APR 853 in Paris, Ile-de-France,France
Sources:
- Title: FMG Projects/MedLands - BEGO (-28 Oct 816)
Author: FMG Projects/MedLands
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#SusannaMWulfhard;
Note: BEGO (-28 Oct 816). Depoin suggests that Bego was the son of Gérard Comte de Paris[109]. He appears to assume this on the basis of the hereditary nature of the county of Paris, although it is far from clear that Carolingian counties in France at the time were routinely transmitted to family members by inheritance. Comte. King Charles I authorised “comes...Bego” to dispose of property at Bry [sur-Marne] by charter dated 23 Apr 789, reference to which exists only in a copy made by Baluze[110]. [Marquis de Septimanie]: Bego governed the county of Toulouse as "marchio" for Septimania from 806. “Bigo...comes” donated property to “presbitero...Crisogonio” at the monastery of Alaon by charter dated to [806/14][111]. He was chambrier, equivalent to viceroy, for Louis King of Aquitaine (son of Emperor Charlemagne)[112]. Comte de Paris [815], succeeding comte Stephanus. He founded the abbey of Saint-Maur-des-Fossés near Paris. Emperor Louis I granted immunities to Saint-Maur-des-Fossés at the request of “Bego fidelius noster” and “Begoni...comitis” by two charters dated 20 Jun 816[113]. The Annales Hildesheimenses record the death of "Bicgo de amici regis" in 815 (which date must be incorrect)[114]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prés records the death "V Kal Nov" of "Begoni comitis"[115]. [m firstly ---. There is no proof of this possible first marriage of Bego. However, as noted below, if his wife Alpais was the daughter of Emperor Louis, there would have been a considerable age difference between her and Bego, which suggests the possibility of an earlier marriage.] m [secondly] ([806]) ALPAIS, illegitimate daughter of [Emperor LOUIS I & his mistress ---] ([793/94]-23 Jul 852 or after, bur [Reims]). Flodoard refers to "Ludowicus Alpheidi filie sue uxori Begonis comitis"[116]. The Annales Hildesheimenses name "filiam imperatoris…Elpheid" as the wife of "Bicgo de amici regis" when recording the death of her husband[117]. Settipani discusses the debate about the paternity of Alpais, preferring the theory that Emperor Charles I was her father[118]. If Emperor Louis was her father, it is unlikely that she was born before [793/94], given his known birth date in 778. It would therefore be chronologically tight for her to have had [three] children by her husband before his death in 816. However, no indication has been found in primary sources of the ages of these children when their father died. The question of her paternity is obviously not beyond doubt, but it is felt preferable to show her as the probable daughter of Emperor Louis in view of the clear statement in Flodoard. If Alpais was the daughter of Emperor Louis, it is likely that she was not her husband's only wife in view of his estimated birth date. After her husband died, she became abbess of Saint-Pierre-les-Dames at Reims in [817]. She was still there 29 May 852. Bego & his [second] wife had three children:
a) LIUTHARD . Flodoard names "ipsius Alpheidis vel filiorum eius Letardi et Ebrardi" when recording their mother's donation to the church of Reims[119].
b) EBERHARD . Flodoard names "ipsius Alpheidis vel filiorum eius Letardi et Ebrardi" when recording their mother's donation to the church of Reims[120].
c) SUSANNA ([805/10]-). The primary source which establishes that Susanna was the daughter of Bego has not yet been identified. "Vulfardus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire for the souls of "genitoris mei Vulfardi et genetrice mea Susannane necnon et germanorum fratrum meorum Adelardo, Vulgrino, Ymo et sorore mee Hildeburga vel nepote meo Vulgrino" by charter dated 2 Nov 889[121]. m ([825/30]) VULFHARD, son of ---.
Page: Source record for BEGO (-28 Oct 816).
- Title: Wikipedia: Beggo, Count of Toulouse
Author: Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggo,_Count_of_Toulouse;
Note: This explains:
1. Parentage
2. Count of Toulouse
3. Count of Paris
4. Marriage to Alpais
5. Children with Alpais: Leuthard II and Eberhard
6. Other children: Landrade, Susanna, and Engeltrude
7. This also talks about: Duke of Septimania, Duke of Aquitaine, and Margrave of the Hispanic March, March of Gothia.
- Title: Wikipedia: Bégon de Paris
Publication: Name: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9gon_de_Paris;
- Title: Peerage, The
Author: Darryl Lundy, The Peerage, a genealogical survey of teh Peerage of Britian as well as the royal families of Europe(http://thepeerage.com : accessed 30 Jul 2019), Bego de Paris. Cit. Date: 31 Jan 2019;
Note: Bego, Comte de Paris was born circa 758.1 He was the son of Gerhard I, Comte de Paris and Rotrud (?).1 He married unknown wife (?).1 He died on 28 October 816.1 Hofbeamter Ludwigs d. Frommen, Gf. v. Paris vor 814, Stifter v. Kl. St. Maur-des-Fosss bei Paris.1Child of Bego, Comte de Paris and unknown wife (?) Susanna de Paris+1 b. c 800Citations [S7803] Christof Steineg von Steinig, online unknown url, Christof Steineg von Steinig (unknown location).
- Title: Begue de Paris, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1J-SJWZ : 25 May 2022), Begue de Paris, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 147243328, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1J-SJWZ;
- Title: Count of Paris
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_Paris;
Note: Count of Paris (French: Comte de Paris) was a title for the local magnate of the district around Paris in Carolingian times.
811/815–816: Beggo (or Begon) (755/760–816), brother of previous
Page: This explains: 1. Count of Paris 2. When Beggo was Count of Paris
- Title: Count of Toulouse
Author: Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_Toulouse;
Note: The Count of Toulouse (Occitan: comte de Tolosa, French: comte de Toulouse) was the ruler of Toulouse during the 8th to 13th centuries. Originating as vassals of the Frankish kings,[1] the hereditary counts ruled the city of Toulouse and its surrounding county from the late 9th century until 1270.
List of counts of Toulouse
Carolingian era
806–816 Beggo
Page: This Explains: 1. Count of Toulouse 2. Give Beggo of Paris' tenure as Count
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