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Robert d'Hesbaye II
- Preferred Name: Robert d'Hesbaye II
- Gender: M
- Death: 12 JUL 807 with note:
- Birth: ABT 760 in Worms, Hesse, Germany
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Count of Wormsgau, Rheingau, and Hesbaye
- FSID: L1PD-R8Q
- Royal House: with note: Description: Robertians
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Robert II de Hesbaye
Studien zur Herrschaftsgeschichte des fränkischen Adels"
Wir konnten schon die genealogischen Verbindungen aufzeigen, die zwischen den Stiftersippen der HATTONEN/MATTONEN und ROBERTINER in dieser Zeit geknüpft wurden. Sie sind ebenso aus den Schenkungen der räumlich zusammenhängenden Marken Ras- und Soisdorf abzulesen, die Ruadpraht/Rotpert, pater Cancures, im Jahre 780/81 mit drei HATTONEN signierte. Beide im Saalegau und Grabfeld bis 817 auftretenden ROBERTINER [Stengel 145a und b mit den in der Vorbemerkung nachgewiesenen Belegen. - Da der 780/81 genannte pater Cancurses, Ruadpraht, 805 gestorben ist und 817 ein comes Ruadperath im Saalegau auftritt (Dronke: Codex 387), ist dieser wohl ein weiterer Sohn. Cancor erscheint 812 als Zeuge im Grabfeld (ebd. nr. 275; vgl. TAF c. 42 nrr. 209 und 284). Nachfolger im Saalegau war sein Vetter Graf Poppo I., der schon seit 819 im Grabfeld amtiert. - Belege für robertinischen Besitz und Grafenrechte in der Wetterau, Nidda- und Lahngau mit weiteren Hinweisen auf Verwandtschaft mit den HATTONEN hat zuletzt Kropat: Reich Seite 35ff zusammengestellt. - Die Verwandtschaft mit Trägern des Namens Guntram in Worms- und Nahegau, die auch die Familie des Abtes Hrabanus Maurus von Fulda einbeziehen, hat M. Mitterauer: Markgrafen Seite 208 f. nachgewiesen.] sind hier Besitz- und Rechtsvorgänger ihrer rechten Vettern mit den Leitnamen Poppo und Heinrich
Friese Alfred: Seite 98-103
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Robert II (Rodbert, Chrodobert) (died 12 July 807[citation needed]) was a Frankish nobleman who was count of Worms and of Rheingau and Count of Hesbaye[citation needed] around the year 800. He is the earliest-known male-line ancestor of the French royal family called the Capetians (including the Valois and the Bourbons), and of other royal families which ruled in Portugal, Spain, Luxembourg, Parma, Brazil and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II,_Count_of_Hesbaye
studies on the history of rule of the Frankish nobility "
We were able to show the genealogical connections that were made between the founder clans of the HATTONEN / MATTONEN and ROBERTINER during this time. They can also be read from the donations of the spatially connected brands Ras- and Soisdorf, which Ruadpraht / Rotpert, Father Cancures, signed with three HATTONEN in 780/81. Both ROBERTINER appearing in the Saalegau and Grabfeld up to 817 [Stengel 145a and b with the documents documented in the preliminary remark. - Since Father Cancurses, Ruadpraht, mentioned in 780/81, died in 805 and a comes Ruadperath appears in the Saalegau in 817 (Dronke: Codex 387), this is probably another son. Cancor appears in 812 as a witness in the grave field (ibid. No. 275; cf. TAF c. 42 no. 209 and 284). His successor in the Saalegau was his cousin Count Poppo I, who had been in office in the grave field since 819. - Evidence for Robertine property and count's rights in the Wetterau, Nidda- and Lahngau with further references to relationship with the HATTONEN has recently compiled Kropat: Reich page 35ff. - The relationship with the bearers of the name Guntram in Worms and Nahegau, who also include the family of the abbot Hrabanus Maurus von Fulda, is proven by M. Mitterauer: Margraves page 208 f.] Are the property and legal predecessors of their right cousins with the Lead names Poppo and Heinrich
Friese Alfred: Pages 98-103
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Frankish nobleman who was count of Worms and of Rheingau and duke of Hesbaye around the year 800. He is the earliest known male-line ancestor of the French royal family called the Capetians (including the Valois and the Bourbons), and of other royal families which ruled in Portugal, Spain, and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.
Robert of Hesbaye is the earliest certain ancestor of the dynasty known as the Robertians. His son was Robert III of Worms, and his grandson was Robert the Strong. He was eventually the great-grandfather of two Frankish kings, Odo and Robert, both of whom ruled the kingdom of Western Francia.
One of Robert of Hesbaye's male-line descendants was Hugh Capet, the founder of the French royal dynasty which ruled France continuously until 1848, although with a brief interregnum caused by the French revolution and the First French Empire. A junior line has held the Spanish Crown since 1700; the current monarch Felipe VI and his family are direct descendants. Various cadet branches of the Capetian dynasty have ruled other countries including Navarre, Italian states prior to unification, and others.
Robert was probably the son of Thuringbert of Worms and Rheingau and thus a grandson of Robert I, Duke of Neustria (c. 697–764). An alternate theory has him as the son of Robert, son of Thuringbert. Find A Grave
Robert II de Hesbaye (0770-0807)
Robert II de Hesbaye, est un noble franc de la famille des Robertiens. Fils de Thurimbert, comte de Hesbaye, et de sa femme, de nom inconnu, petit-fils de Robert Ier de Hesbaye et de Williswinte et ma
Robert II de Hesbaye (0770-0807)
Robert II de Hesbaye, est un noble franc de la famille des Robertiens. Fils de Thurimbert, comte de Hesbaye, et de sa femme, de nom inconnu, petit-fils de Robert Ier de Hesbaye et de Williswinte et ma
Robert II Count of Worms, Rheingau, Hesbaye
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Robert II (Rodbert, Chrodobert) (died 12 July 807[citation needed]) was a Frankish nobleman who was count of Worms and of Rheingau and count of Hesbaye around the
===
Rutpert II Count OF Wormgau
Born: Est ===
Rutpert II Count OF Wormgau
Born: Est 740
Marriage: Theoderata UNKNOWN
Died: 12 Jul 807, about age 67
Rupert married Theoderata UNKNOWN. (Theoderata UNKNOWN was born est
740 and died BY 789.)
Children: Rutpert III COUNT OF WORMGAU
http://www.ancestrees.com/pedigree/3373.htm
=== #Générale# Comte en Wormsgau et Oberrhe ===
#Générale# Comte en Wormsgau et Oberrheinsgau.
===
Rutpert II Count OF Wormgau
Born: Est ===
Rutpert II Count OF WormgauBorn: Est 740Marriage: Theoderata UNKNOWNDied: 12 Jul 807, about age 67Rupert married Theoderata UNKNOWN. (Theoderata UNKNOWN was born est740 and died BY 789.)Children: Rutpert III COUNT OF WORMGAUhttp://www.ancestrees.com/pedigree/3373.htm
=== !Aristocratic & Royal Ancestors GS 929.2 ===
!Aristocratic & Royal Ancestors GS 929.242 H249t p. 172. Rutpert II Count in Upper Thine and Wormgau 770-807.
=== !Weis. 48-15. Rutpert II was Count in ===
!Weis. 48-15. Rutpert II was Count in the Upper Rhine and Wormgau. He was living 770-807.
=== [Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] TITLE Count i ===
[Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] TITLE Count in Wormgau & Oberrheinsgau His father may have been Turincbertus (RN 14354 Seen in Wormgau and the Upper Rhine 770-757 Source: Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists...p 53; Buell001.zip
=== !SOURCE: ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF CERTAIN AME ===
!SOURCE: ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF CERTAIN AMERICAN COLONISTS WHO CAME TO AMERICA BEFORE 1700, SEVENTH EDITION 1992, PG 50 LINE 48-15; COUNT IN THE UPPER RHINE AND WORMGAU. !SOURCE: ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA VOL 21, PG 740-741
=== Robert II, Count of Hesbaye ===
Robert II (Rodbert, Chrodobert) (died 12 July 807[citation needed]) was a Frankish nobleman who was count of Worms and of Rheingau and Count of Hesbaye[citation needed] around the year 800. He is the earliest-known male-line ancestor of the French royal family called the Capetians (including the Valois and the Bourbons), and of other royal families which ruled in Portugal, Spain, Luxembourg, Parma, Brazil and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.
Robert of Hesbaye is the earliest ancestor of the dynasty known as the Robertians who is identified with some confidence. His son was Robert III of Worms, and his grandson was Robert the Strong. He was the great-grandfather of two Frankish kings, Odo and Robert, both of whom ruled the kingdom of Western Francia.
One of Robert of Hesbaye's male-line descendants was Hugh Capet, the founder of the French royal dynasty which ruled France until 1848, although with a brief interregnum caused by the French Revolution and the First French Empire. A junior line has held the Spanish Crown since 1700; the current monarch Felipe VI and his family are direct descendants. Various cadet branches of the Capetian dynasty have ruled other countries, including Navarre, Italian states prior to unification, and others. Robert was probably the son of Thuringbert of Worms and Rheingau, and thus a grandson of Robert I, Duke of Neustria (c. 697–748).[according to whom?] An alternate theory has him as the son of Robert, son of Thuringbert.[according to whom?]
It is also possible that Ingerman of Hesbaye and Cancor were the brothers of Robert of Hesbaye, and Landrada, mother of Saint Chrodegang, archbishop of Metz, is likely to have been his sister.[according to whom?] Ermengarde, the wife of emperor Louis the Pious, was probably his niece.
=== #Générale# Comte en Wormsgau et Oberrhei ===
#Générale# Comte en Wormsgau et Oberrheinsgau.
=== Grf in Bovenrijn- en Wormsgouw (na juni ===
Grf in Bovenrijn- en Wormsgouw (na juni 770), heer van Dienheim in 795.
=== Robert II, Count of Hesbaye ===
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II,_Count_of_Hesbaye
=== Count in the Upper Rhine and Wormsgau 77 ===
Count in the Upper Rhine and Wormsgau 770-807, Lord of Dienheim 795,
=== !"Royal Ancestors" by Michel Call, 1989, ===
!"Royal Ancestors" by Michel Call, 1989, Chart # 11505, # 11615.
=== Gf. im Oberrhein- u. Wormsgau 785/807, H ===
Gf. im Oberrhein- u. Wormsgau 785/807, Herr zu Dienheim 795, urk. 770-807
=== Studien zur Herrschaftsgeschichte des fr ===
Studien zur Herrschaftsgeschichte des fränkischen Adels"
Wir konnten schon die genealogischen Verbindungen aufzeigen, die zwischen den Stiftersippen der HATTONEN/MATTONEN und ROBERTINER in dieser Zeit geknüpft wurden. Sie sind ebenso aus den Schenkungen der räumlich zusammenhängenden Marken Ras- und Soisdorf abzulesen, die Ruadpraht/Rotpert, pater Cancures, im Jahre 780/81 mit drei HATTONEN signierte. Beide im Saalegau und Grabfeld bis 817 auftretenden ROBERTINER [Stengel 145a und b mit den in der Vorbemerkung nachgewiesenen Belegen. - Da der 780/81 genannte pater Cancurses, Ruadpraht, 805 gestorben ist und 817 ein comes Ruadperath im Saalegau auftritt (Dronke: Codex 387), ist dieser wohl ein weiterer Sohn. Cancor erscheint 812 als Zeuge im Grabfeld (ebd. nr. 275; vgl. TAF c. 42 nrr. 209 und 284). Nachfolger im Saalegau war sein Vetter Graf Poppo I., der schon seit 819 im Grabfeld amtiert. - Belege für robertinischen Besitz und Grafenrechte in der Wetterau, Nidda- und Lahngau mit weiteren Hinweisen auf Verwandtschaft mit den HATTONEN hat zuletzt Kropat: Reich Seite 35ff zusammengestellt. - Die Verwandtschaft mit Trägern des Namens Guntram in Worms- und Nahegau, die auch die Familie des Abtes Hrabanus Maurus von Fulda einbeziehen, hat M. Mitterauer: Markgrafen Seite 208 f. nachgewiesen.] sind hier Besitz- und Rechtsvorgänger ihrer rechten Vettern mit den Leitnamen Poppo und Heinrich
Friese Alfred: Seite 98-103
---
Robert II (Rodbert, Chrodobert) (died 12 July 807[citation needed]) was a Frankish nobleman who was count of Worms and of Rheingau and Count of Hesbaye[citation needed] around the year 800. He is the earliest-known male-line ancestor of the French royal family called the Capetians (including the Valois and the Bourbons), and of other royal families which ruled in Portugal, Spain, Luxembourg, Parma, Brazil and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II,_Count_of_Hesbaye
studies on the history of rule of the Frankish nobility "
We were able to show the genealogical connections that were made between the founder clans of the HATTONEN / MATTONEN and ROBERTINER during this time. They can also be read from the donations of the spatially connected brands Ras- and Soisdorf, which Ruadpraht / Rotpert, Father Cancures, signed with three HATTONEN in 780/81. Both ROBERTINER appearing in the Saalegau and Grabfeld up to 817 [Stengel 145a and b with the documents documented in the preliminary remark. - Since Father Cancurses, Ruadpraht, mentioned in 780/81, died in 805 and a comes Ruadperath appears in the Saalegau in 817 (Dronke: Codex 387), this is probably another son. Cancor appears in 812 as a witness in the grave field (ibid. No. 275; cf. TAF c. 42 no. 209 and 284). His successor in the Saalegau was his cousin Count Poppo I, who had been in office in the grave field since 819. - Evidence for Robertine property and count's rights in the Wetterau, Nidda- and Lahngau with further references to relationship with the HATTONEN has recently compiled Kropat: Reich page 35ff. - The relationship with the bearers of the name Guntram in Worms and Nahegau, who also include the family of the abbot Hrabanus Maurus von Fulda, is proven by M. Mitterauer: Margraves page 208 f.] Are the property and legal predecessors of their right cousins with the Lead names Poppo and Heinrich
Friese Alfred: Pages 98-103
---
Frankish nobleman who was count of Worms and of Rheingau and duke of Hesbaye around the year 800. He is the earliest known male-line ancestor of the French royal family called the Capetians (including the Valois and the Bourbons), and of other royal families which ruled in Portugal, Spain, and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.
Robert of Hesbaye is the earliest certain ancestor of the dynasty known as the Robertians. His son was Robert III of Worms, and his grandson was Robert the Strong. He was eventually the great-grandfather of two Frankish kings, Odo and Robert, both of whom ruled the kingdom of Western Francia.
One of Robert of Hesbaye's male-line descendants was Hugh Capet, the founder of the French royal dynasty which ruled France continuously until 1848, although with a brief interregnum caused by the French revolution and the First French Empire. A junior line has held the Spanish Crown since 1700; the current monarch Felipe VI and his family are direct descendants. Various cadet branches of the Capetian dynasty have ruled other countries including Navarre, Italian states prior to unification, and others.
Robert was probably the son of Thuringbert of Worms and Rheingau and thus a grandson of Robert I, Duke of Neustria (c. 697–764). An alternate theory has him as the son of Robert, son of Thuringbert. Find A Grave
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II,_Count_of_Hesbaye
!"Royal Ancestors" by Michel Call, 1989, Chart # 11505, # 11615.
Rutpert II Count OF Wormgau
Born: Est 740
Marriage: Theoderata UNKNOWN
Died: 12 Jul 807, about age 67
Rupert married Theoderata UNKNOWN. (Theoderata UNKNOWN was born est
740 and died BY 789.)
Children: Rutpert III COUNT OF WORMGAU
http://www.ancestrees.com/pedigree/3373.htm
Robert II (Rodbert, Chrodobert) (died 12 July 807[citation needed]) was a Frankish nobleman who was count of Worms and of Rheingau and Count of Hesbaye[citation needed] around the year 800. He is the earliest-known male-line ancestor of the French royal family called the Capetians (including the Valois and the Bourbons), and of other royal families which ruled in Portugal, Spain, Luxembourg, Parma, Brazil and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.
Robert of Hesbaye is the earliest ancestor of the dynasty known as the Robertians who is identified with some confidence. His son was Robert III of Worms, and his grandson was Robert the Strong. He was the great-grandfather of two Frankish kings, Odo and Robert, both of whom ruled the kingdom of Western Francia.
One of Robert of Hesbaye's male-line descendants was Hugh Capet, the founder of the French royal dynasty which ruled France until 1848, although with a brief interregnum caused by the French Revolution and the First French Empire. A junior line has held the Spanish Crown since 1700; the current monarch Felipe VI and his family are direct descendants. Various cadet branches of the Capetian dynasty have ruled other countries, including Navarre, Italian states prior to unification, and others. Robert was probably the son of Thuringbert of Worms and Rheingau, and thus a grandson of Robert I, Duke of Neustria (c. 697–748).[according to whom?] An alternate theory has him as the son of Robert, son of Thuringbert.[according to whom?]
It is also possible that Ingerman of Hesbaye and Cancor were the brothers of Robert of Hesbaye, and Landrada, mother of Saint Chrodegang, archbishop of Metz, is likely to have been his sister.[according to whom?] Ermengarde, the wife of emperor Louis the Pious, was probably his niece.
#Générale# Comte en Wormsgau et Oberrheinsgau.
!SOURCE: ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF CERTAIN AMERICAN COLONISTS WHO CAME TO AMERICA BEFORE 1700, SEVENTH EDITION 1992, PG 50 LINE 48-15; COUNT IN THE UPPER RHINE AND WORMGAU. !SOURCE: ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA VOL 21, PG 740-741
[Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] TITLE Count in Wormgau & Oberrheinsgau His father may have been Turincbertus (RN 14354 Seen in Wormgau and the Upper Rhine 770-757 Source: Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists...p 53; Buell001.zip
!Weis. 48-15. Rutpert II was Count in the Upper Rhine and Wormgau. He was living 770-807.
Count in the Upper Rhine and Wormsgau 770-807, Lord of Dienheim 795,
Rutpert II Count OF WormgauBorn: Est 740Marriage: Theoderata UNKNOWNDied: 12 Jul 807, about age 67Rupert married Theoderata UNKNOWN. (Theoderata UNKNOWN was born est740 and died BY 789.)Children: Rutpert III COUNT OF WORMGAUhttp://www.ancestrees.com/pedigree/3373.htm
#Générale# Comte en Wormsgau et Oberrheinsgau.
Gf. im Oberrhein- u. Wormsgau 785/807, Herr zu Dienheim 795, urk. 770-807
Grf in Bovenrijn- en Wormsgouw (na juni 770), heer van Dienheim in 795.
!Aristocratic & Royal Ancestors GS 929.242 H249t p. 172. Rutpert II Count in Upper Thine and Wormgau 770-807.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Thuringbert d'Hesbaye, b. ABT 730 in Alsace-Lorraine, German Empire d. AFT JUN 770
Mother: Clotilde de Worms, b. ABT 733 in Moselle, Lorraine, France d. 1 JUN 770 in Belgium
Family 1: Wiltrude Gräfin im Oberrheingau und im Wormsgau, b. um 0790 in Orléans, Loiret, Frankenreich d. 9 APR 869 in Remiremont, Vosges, Lorraine, France
- Robert de Hesbaye de Wormsgau III, b. ABT 781 in Austrasia d. 7 DEC 833 in Pays de la Loire, France
Family 2: Theoderata de Wormsgau, b. 760 in Worms, Hessen, Alemania d. 789 in Worms, Worms, Hessen, Alemania
- Robert de Hesbaye de Wormsgau III, b. ABT 781 in Austrasia d. 7 DEC 833 in Pays de la Loire, France
Family 3: Theoderata Saxony, b. ABT 765 in Worms, Worms, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany d. BEF 834
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