Guy II "Le Rouge" de Montlhery

• Preferred Name: Guy II "Le Rouge" de Montlhery^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• _AMTID: with note: Description: 242238023964:1030:172596798
  
• _COLOR: with note: Description: 1
  
• Death: NOV 1108 in Rochefort, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France at LATI: N8.5841 LONG: E0.9887
  
• MilitaryService: CrusadeBET 1095 AND 1104 in Byzantine Empire at LATI: N1.15 LONG: E8.75 with note: https://montlhery.com/chateau3_eng.htm Milon the Big left during the first crusade (1096 - 1104) with his oldest son, Guy Troussel; his brother guy the Red, count of Rochefort; and his nephew Hughes, sire of Crécy, who was the son of Guy the Red. It is possible to date their departure to 1096 since Guy the Red, also the seneschal, disappeared from these events around 1095, and did not reappear until 1104. We know the results of the voyage from the accounts of the Abbey Suger. Guy Troussel abandoned the holy business and, unbeknownst to his father, he escaped from Antioch, which was besieged by the Corboran army. He then returned to France. With the crusade now finished Milon the Big was reunited with his dishonored son. He then set off once more for holy ground where he was killed at the battle of Ramlah in 1103.
  
• MilitaryService: Crusades1101 in Lombard contingent in the minor Crusade of 1101 at LATI: N0.0003 LONG: E86.2503
  
• Birth: ABT 1037 in Montlhéry, Seine-et-Oise, Île-de-France, France at LATI: N8.6397 LONG: E0.2709
  
• MilitaryService: 1101 in Lombard contingent in the minor Crusade of 1101 at LATI: N0.0003 LONG: E86.2503 with note: Description: Crusades
  
• Burial: in Seneschal Of First Crusade, France
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Seneschal Of France, First Crusade
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Comte de Rochefort ... Lord of Rochefort1085
  
• Christening: in Montlhéry, Palaiseau, Essonne, Île-de-France, France at LATI: N8.6479 LONG: E0.2319
  
• MilitaryService: Minor Crusade1101 in Byzantine Empire, Nicomedia, at LATI: N1.15 LONG: E8.75 with note: The Crusade of 1101 was a minor crusade of three separate movements, organized in 1100 and 1101 in the successful aftermath of the First Crusade. It is also called the Crusade of the Faint-Hearted due to the number of participants who joined this crusade after having turned back from the First Crusade. Calls for reinforcements from the newly established Kingdom of Jerusalem, and Pope Paschal II, successor to Pope Urban II (who died before learning of the outcome of the crusade that he had called), urged a new expedition. He especially urged those who had taken the crusade vow but had never departed, and those who had turned back while on the march. Some of these people were already scorned at home and faced enormous pressure to return to the east; Adela of Blois, wife of Stephen, Count of Blois, who had fled from the siege of Antioch in 1098, was so ashamed of her husband that she would not permit him to stay at home.[1] Lombards[edit] Lombard-Tuscan man-at-arms from c. 1100, Vita Mathildis. Anselm IV As in the first crusade, the pilgrims and soldiers did not leave as a part of one large army, but rather in several groups from various different regions from across Western Europe. In September 1100, a large group of Lombards left from Milan. These were mostly untrained peasants, led by Anselm IV, Archbishop of Milan. When they reached the territory of the Byzantine Empire, they pillaged it recklessly, and Byzantine emperor Alexios I escorted them to a camp outside Constantinople. This did not satisfy them, and they made their way inside the city where they pillaged the Blachernae palace, even killing Alexios' pet lion. The Lombards were quickly ferried across the Bosporus and made their camp at Nicomedia, to wait for reinforcements. At Nicomedia they were joined in May 1101 by a smaller but stronger contingent of French, Burgundians, and Germans, under Stephen of Blois, Stephen I, Count of Burgundy, Eudes I, (for more information see Wikipedia Crusade 1101)
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: sénéchal de France1104
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Châtelin de Châteaufort et de Gometz1095
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: seigneur de Crècy-en-Bray, seigneur de Gournay-sur-Marne, seigneur de Bréthencourt.1095
  
• Occupation: Moine
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Seigneur puis Comte de Rochefort-en-YvelinesBEF 1095
  
• FSID: LJG8-98D
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Seigneur de Châteaufort, Crécy-en-BRie, Bréthencourt et Gournay-sur-Marne
  
• NFS ID: with note: Description: LCMV-DNB
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Comte de Rochefort sur Yvelin with note: http://thepeerage.com/p451.htm#i4501
  
• Nickname:
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Seigneur De Crecy
  
• LdsEndowment: 26 OCT 1960 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Occupation: Croisé
  
• LdsBaptism: 22 JAN 1960 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Notes:

  BIO
  BIO: Sire de Montlhery, Count of Rochefort-en-Yvelines, Lord of Chatefort, Seneschal of France, Seigneur of Fornay and Gomez.
  
  ** from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#Gu
  
  Memorial
  Gui de Montlhéry est le second fils de Gui Ier de Montlhéry et d'Hodierne de Gometz, dame de La Ferté2. Guy le Rouge, par son mariage avec Adélaïde de Rochefort, héritière de cette terre, il prend le
  
  Memorial
  b) GUY [I] (-1095, bur abbaye de Longpont). The Historia of Monk Aimon names "Guidonem" as the son of "Theobaldus cognomina Filans-stupas, Forestarius [Roberti Regis]" stating that he held "Montem-Let
  
  Memorial
  Comte de Corbeil, chatelain de Rochefort-en-Yvelines. Guy I, seigneur de Montlhéry was born circa 1009.2 He was the son of Thibaud "Fille-Etoupe", seigneur de Bray & de Montlhéry and N. N. (?).1
  
  === 1. Source: "Ancestry of Roger Ludlow" b ===
  1. Source: "Ancestry of Roger Ludlow" by Seversmith, p. 2,508. 2. Called "Guy the Red, count of Rochefort."
  
  === !The Record of the House of Gournay GS 9 ===
  !The Record of the House of Gournay GS 929.242 G743g pedigree chart p. 127.
  
  === Sources: RC 5, 57; Kraentzler 1288, 1347 ===
  Sources: RC 5, 57; Kraentzler 1288, 1347, 1372; AF. "Les Rouge"--"The Red." RC: Sire de Montlhery, Count of Rochefort-en-Yvelines, Lord ofChateaufort, Senechal of France, Seigneur of Fornay and Gomez. K-1347: Guy II "Loe Rouge," "Troussel," de Montlhery, Count deRochfort. K-1372: Gui II de Montlheri "the Red," aka Gui de Rochefort, Count de Rochefort, Seigneur de Gournay and Gometgz, Senechal de France.
  
  === Hist Gen De La Maison De Courtenay by M. ===
  Hist Gen De La Maison De Courtenay by M. Du Bouchet p. 28; Plantagenet Ancestry by Turton p. 189, 230; Hist Gen et Chron Des Pairs de France by Anselme III p. 664. Archive Record - SLC, UT
  
  === ES III:624 Count of Rochefort. ===
  ES III:624 Count of Rochefort.
  
  === !History gen. De La Maison De Courtenay ===
  !History gen. De La Maison De Courtenay by M. Du Bouchet p. 28; Plantagenet Ancestry, by Turton, p. 189, 230; History gen. et Chron. Des Pairs de France by Anselme III p. 664.
  
  === He bore the title of Comte de Rochefort. ===
  He bore the title of Comte de Rochefort.
  
  === !SOURCE: "Royal Ancestors," PC #550. ===
  !SOURCE: "Royal Ancestors," PC #550.
  
  === Gf. v. Rochefort als Gui I.; Herr v. Gou ===
  Gf. v. Rochefort als Gui I.; Herr v. Gournay u. Gomez, durch Heirat von Crecy, Seneschall von Frankreich
  
  === !LDS Family History Library Rogers Arkan ===
  !LDS Family History Library Rogers Arkansas LDS Royalty Book Plantagenet Ancestry

1. Lucienne de Rochefort , b. 1088 in Rochefort-en-Yvelines, Yvelines, Île-de-France, France     d. 22 AUG 1137 in Beaujeu, Rhône, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France

1. Beatrice de Montlhery, b. ABT 1073 in Montlhéry, Palaiseau, Essonne, Île-de-France, France     d. ABT 1137 in Rochefort, Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France

1. Beatrice de Montlhery, b. ABT 1073 in Montlhéry, Palaiseau, Essonne, Île-de-France, France     d. ABT 1137 in Rochefort, Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France

1. Title: Guy II unknown of Rochefort - Archived Database
   Author: Crusades ExpeditionCrusade of 1101 Contingent LeaderStephen of Blois and Stephen I of Burgundy Probability of ParticipationCertain ActionsGuy was seneschal of King Phillip I of France. When he came home he was met by a triumphal procession of monks and many of his own vassals. It was said that while he was on crusade his lands had descended into chaos. SourcesAA, pp. 594-595, 606-607, 614-615. Chronique de Morigny (1095-1152), ed. L. Mirot, Collection de textes, XLI (Paris, 1909), pp. 40-41. RFC, p. 145.
   Publication: Name: https://web.archive.org/web/20170222111533/https://www.hrionline.ac.uk/crusaders/person/?id=353&kw=guy+ii+the+red&n=249&nav=0&total=575;
   
2. Title: -
   Note: Guy de Crecy and Melisende de Crecy in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#_Toc494629903 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Guy de Crecy and Melisende de Crecy in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#MelisendeCrecyMThomasCoucy [See document in the Memories section]
   
3. Title: GUY [II] "le Rouge" de Montlhéry, Comte de Rochefort, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuyIIMontlheryRochefortdied1108B [See document in the Memories section]
   Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuyIIMontlheryRochefortdied1108B;
   Note: GUY [II] "le Rouge" de Montlhéry, Comte de Rochefort, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuyIIMontlheryRochefortdied1108B [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: GUY [II] "le Rouge" de Montlhéry, Comte de Rochefort, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuyIIMontlheryRochefortdied1108B [See document in the Memories section]
   
4. Title: Guy and Milon, Seigneurs de Montlhéry, in the Foundation for Medieval ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuyIMontlherydied1095 [See document in the Memories section]
   Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuyIMontlherydied1095;
   Note: Guy and Milon, Seigneurs de Montlhéry, in the Foundation for Medieval ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuyIMontlherydied1095 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Guy and Milon, Seigneurs de Montlhéry, in the Foundation for Medieval ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuyIMontlherydied1095 [See document in the Memories section]
   
5. Title: Seigneurs de Montlhéry Bray-sur-Seine, La Ferté-Milon
   Publication: Name: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montlhery.pdf;
   
6. Title: Guy II the Red of Rochefort
   Author: Guy first married Elisabeth from an unknown family. He then married Adelais de Crécy, widow of Bouchard II, Count of Corbeil, grandson of Mauger, Count of Corbeil. Guy and Elisabeth had three children: Guy III (d. 19 November 1115), Count of Rochefort. His son Simon (d. before 1125) was also Count of Rochefort. Biote de Montlhéry, married Folques, Vicomte of Château-Landon.
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_II_the_Red_of_Rochefort;
   
7. Title: Book - Historie dela ville et de tout le dioese de Paris (in French)
   
8. Title: Guy Montlhery, 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
   Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Green Web Site, managed by Snwball
   Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-263452901-1-11103/guy-montlhery-in-myheritage-family-trees;
   Note: Guy Montlhery Birth: 1037 - Montlhéry, Essonne, Île-de-France, France Death: 1108 - France, Lot-et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France Parents: Guy De Montlhery, Hodierne De Montlhery (born De Gometz) Wife: Adelaide De Crecy Children: Adelaide De Crecy, Elise Elizabeth De Corbeil, Ms Fnu De Montlhery, Beatrix De Montlhery, Melisende De Coucy (born Crecy), Lucienne De Montlhery, Beatrix De Montlhery
   Page: Extend family tree
   
9. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/142857848;
   Note: Enguerrand I, Seigneur de Coucy, and Thomas de Coucy, Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle and Comte d’Amiens, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#ThomasICoucydied1130 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Enguerrand I, Seigneur de Coucy, and Thomas de Coucy, Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle and Comte d’Amiens, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#ThomasICoucydied1130 [See document in the Memories section]
   
10. Title: Guy Montlhery, 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
    Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Green Web Site, managed by Snwball
    Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-263452901-1-11103/guy-montlhery-in-myheritage-family-trees;
    Note: Guy Montlhery Birth: 1037 - Montlhéry, Essonne, Île-de-France, France Death: 1108 - France, Lot-et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France Parents: Guy De Montlhery, Hodierne De Montlhery (born De Gometz) Wife: Adelaide De Crecy Children: Adelaide De Crecy, Elise Elizabeth De Corbeil, Ms Fnu De Montlhery, Beatrix De Montlhery, Melisende De Coucy (born Crecy), Lucienne De Montlhery, Beatrix De Montlhery
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11. Title: Book - Memories of the Society & History of Paris & l'lle-de-France ( in french) "Seigneurs de Bures"
    
12. Title: Book - Notice sur Monthlhery (in French)
    
13. Title: Online - Montlhery
    
14. Title: Book - Memoirs
    
15. Title: Wikepedia
    
16. Title: Guy Montlhery, 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
    Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Green Web Site, managed by Snwball
    Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-263452901-1-11103/guy-montlhery-in-myheritage-family-trees;
    Note: Guy Montlhery Birth: 1037 - Montlhéry, Essonne, Île-de-France, France Death: 1108 - France, Lot-et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France Parents: Guy De Montlhery, Hodierne De Montlhery (born De Gometz) Wife: Adelaide De Crecy Children: Adelaide De Crecy, Elise Elizabeth De Corbeil, Ms Fnu De Montlhery, Beatrix De Montlhery, Melisende De Coucy (born Crecy), Lucienne De Montlhery, Beatrix De Montlhery
    Page: Extend family tree
    
17. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Guy de Montlhery I Lord of Montlhery -
    Author: Stirnet.com, Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Name: http://www.stirnet.com;, Page number: Courtenay1, Rethel1
    Note: Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Stirnet.com (http://www.stirnet.com).
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