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Adèle de Baudément
- Preferred Name: Adèle de Baudément[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
- Gender: F
- FSID: G79V-P5M
- Death: 1166
- Birth: 1110 in Baudemont, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France at LATI: N9.1385 LONG: E0.6428
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
HUMBELINE de Baudément (-1166 or after). A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[953]. Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre" (although the names of the brothers-in-law are reversed in this document)[954]. [It is possible that Humbeline married firstly Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay. This possible first marriage is suggested by one interpretation of the charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving her son "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by “Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio”[955]. What supports this possible interpretation is that the wife of Anseric [II] was named Humbeline, as shown by the charter dated 22 Feb 1119 under which "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme[956]. Another interesting observation is that the sister of Humbeline de Baudémont married Hugues Seigneur de Montréal, the possible brother of Anséric [II], duplicate brothers/sisters marriages being relatively frequent at the time. However, there are two problems with this possible interpretation of the 1174 document. Firstly, a chronological difficulty is suggested by the birth of Humbeline’s son by her supposed first marriage before 1119, Anseric’s death in 1137, and the supposed birth of several children by her second marriage before 1147. Secondly, the more natural interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard de Brienne because he was the son of the latter’s sister. As discussed in more detail in the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY, this latter interpretation also best explains another charter dated 1146 as well as the introduction of the name Erard into the family of the seigneurs de Chacenay. If that second interpretation is correct, there were two different individuals named Humbeline, one married to Anseric de Chacenay and the other to Gauthier de Brienne.] "Matris mee" is recorded as present in the charter dated 1166 of "Erardus Brenensis comes"[957]. "E Brenensium comes" donated property to Basse-Fontaine "matre mea mediante actum fuisse" by charter dated 1166[958]. Neither charter names the mother of Comte Erard, but they show that she survived her husband. Gauthier must have repudiated Humbeline before his marriage to Adelais, who is named in a charter dated 1147 as his wife (see below). m (repudiated before [1147]) as his [first/second] wife, GAUTHIER [II] Comte de Brienne, son of ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Alix de Montdidier (-before 1161).
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HumbelineBaudementMGauthierIIBrienne
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=== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89rard_II,_Count_of_Brienne ===
Robert Lawrence Nicholson, Joscelyn III and the Fall of the Crusader States: 1134-1199, (Brill, 1973), 184.Jump up^ Jochen Schenk, Templar Families: Landowning Families and the Order of the Temple in France, c.1120-1307, (Cambridge University Press, 2012), 294.^ Jump up to:a b c d e f Guy Perry, John of Brienne: King of Jerusalem, Emperor of Constantinople, c.1175-1237, (Cambridge University Press, 2013), 16.
=== My PAF Notes ===
from thepeerage.com, 4/2009:
Humbleline (?)1
F, #119987, d. after 1138
Last Edited=30 Apr 2004
Humbleline (?) married Walter II, Comte de Brienne , son of Erard I, Comte de Brienne .1 She died after 1138.1
Children of Humbleline (?) and Walter II, Comte de Brienne
Erard II, Comte de Brienne + d. 8 Feb 11911
Guy de Brienne d. bt 1133 - 11581
Jean de Brienne 1
Andre, Sire de Ramerupt + d. 14 Oct 11891
Marie de Brienne 2
Eustace de Brienne b. b 1133, d. a 11652
Citations
[S8 ] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 226. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.
[S8 ] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, volume 1, page 227.
=== Source: Kraentzler 1320, 1326. K: Adelai ===
Source: Kraentzler 1320, 1326. K: Adelaide.
=== Ancestral File AND OR L.D.S. Pedigree ===
Ancestral File AND OR L.D.S. Pedigree Resource Disc ,
=== other spouse not shown ===
other spouse not shown
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!Leana Randall
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.16, 20, 43; THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.206;
=== Line in Record @I12055@ (RIN 12054) from ===
Line in Record @I12055@ (RIN 12054) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _UID 3BC827CA9ECCD61193C3973FD6E9BB5E4986 Line in Record @I12056@ (RIN 12055) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _UID 778F322446A2D61193C3E88C9393015F7B13 Line in Record @I12074@ (RIN 12069) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _UID 29A334DE985DD61193C294AD8A14235E6F16 Line in Record @I12075@ (RIN 12075) from GEDCOM file not recognized: _UID 4A3E5B7C3451D61193C2CDEE4AFA0D5E8A50 1 _UID B9E6E40DF5E0D51193C2F02AB1EEA0564FAE
Preferred Parents:
Father: Andre de Baudément, b. 1050 in Marne, France d. BET 19 AND 24 JUL 1142 in Clairvaux, Aveyron, Midi-Pyrenees, France
Mother: Agnes de Braine, b. 1075 in Braine, Aisne, Picardy, France d. 1137 in Champagne, Saône-et-Loire, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, France
Family 1: Gautier de Brienne II, b. BET 22 DEC 1095 AND 1115 in Brienne-le-Château, Aube, Champagne-Ardenne, France d. ABT 1161 in Brienne, Champagne, France
- Andreas de Brienne, b. ABT 1132 in Brienne-le-Château, Aube, Champagne-Ardenne, France d. 4 OCT 1189 in Acre, Hazafon, Palestine, Israel
- Érard Count of Brienne II, b. 1 JUN 1130 in Brienne-le-Château, Aube, Grand Est, France d. 8 FEB 1191 in Siege of Acre - Acre, Palestine
Sources:
- Title: Ebles de Ramerupt, Bishop of Châlons, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Reims.htm#EblesRameruptChalonsdied1126 [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Reims.htm#EblesRameruptChalonsdied1126;
Note: Ebles de Ramerupt, Bishop of Châlons, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Reims.htm#EblesRameruptChalonsdied1126 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Ebles de Ramerupt, Bishop of Châlons, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Reims.htm#EblesRameruptChalonsdied1126 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Hilduin IV de Ramerupt, Comte de Montdidier and Seigneur de Ramerupt, and Adelaide de Roucy in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#HilduinIVMontdidierdied1063A [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#HilduinIVMontdidierdied1063A;
Note: Hilduin IV de Ramerupt, Comte de Montdidier and Seigneur de Ramerupt, and Adelaide de Roucy in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#HilduinIVMontdidierdied1063A [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Hilduin IV de Ramerupt, Comte de Montdidier and Seigneur de Ramerupt, and Adelaide de Roucy in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#HilduinIVMontdidierdied1063A [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Andre de Baudément, Seigneur de Baudément, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HumbelineBaudementMGauthierIIBrienne [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HumbelineBaudementMGauthierIIBrienne;
Note: Andre de Baudément, Seigneur de Baudément, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HumbelineBaudementMGauthierIIBrienne [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Andre de Baudément, Seigneur de Baudément, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HumbelineBaudementMGauthierIIBrienne [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Amedee de Montfaucon, Comte de Montbelaird, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkmontb.htm#AmedeeIIMontfaucondied1195 [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkmontb.htm#AmedeeIIMontfaucondied1195;
Note: Amedee de Montfaucon, Comte de Montbelaird, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkmontb.htm#AmedeeIIMontfaucondied1195 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Amedee de Montfaucon, Comte de Montbelaird, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkmontb.htm#AmedeeIIMontfaucondied1195 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: MedLands
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#_Toc494628372;
- Title: Humbeline de Baudément - Medlands
Author: HUMBELINE de Baudément (-1166 or after). A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[953]. Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre" (although the names of the brothers-in-law are reversed in this document)[954]. [It is possible that Humbeline married firstly Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay. This possible first marriage is suggested by one interpretation of the charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving her son "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by “E
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HumbelineBaudementMGauthierIIBrienne;
- Title: Racines et Histoire
Publication: Name: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brienne.pdf;
- Title: -
Page: Jean, Vicomte de Mareuil, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamchalons.htm#JeanMareuilMdauAndreRamerupt [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Erard de Brienne, Comte de Brienne, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#ErardBriennedied1190A [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#ErardBriennedied1190A;
Note: Erard de Brienne, Comte de Brienne, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#ErardBriennedied1190A [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Amedee de Montfaucon, Comte de Montbelaird, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkmontb.htm#AmedeeIIMontfaucondied1195 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Gautier II de Brienne, Comte de Brienne, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161A [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161A;
Note: Gautier II de Brienne, Comte de Brienne, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161A [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Gautier II de Brienne, Comte de Brienne, in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161A [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: MedLands
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161B;
- Title: Adelaïs Adelis Ade De Brienne (born De Nesle-Soissons)
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