Hugh de Ponthieu II

• Preferred Name: Hugh de Ponthieu II^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Count
  
• FSID: G9M5-FF1
  
• Birth: 1003 in Saint-Pol-sur-Ternoise, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France at LATI: N0.3804 LONG: E0.3369
  
• Burial: après 20 novembre 1052 in Saint-Riquier, Somme, Picardie, France at LATI: N0.1342 LONG: E0.9467
  
• Death: 20 NOV 1052 in Saint-Riquier, Somme, Hauts-de-France, France at LATI: N0.1342 LONG: E0.9467
  
• Christening: in Ponthieu, France at LATI: N0.1667 LONG: E0.9167 with note: Date christening date of 0910 is before the birth date and the parent's birth dates
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Hugh II of Ponthieu was count of Ponthieu and lord of Abbeville, the son of Enguerrand I of Ponthieu.[1] Evidently, Hugh II was the half-brother of Guy, who became the bishop of Amiens; Fulk, who became the abbot of Forest l'Abbaye; and Robert. However, it is possible that both Robert and Hugh II were the sons of Enguerrand's first wife, and Guy and Fulk the sons of a later wife that Enguerrand I married when he was in his forties.
  
  Hugh II was married to Bertha of Aumale, Countess of Aumale.[1] They had:
  
  Enguerrand II who succeeded Hugh II as Count of Ponthieu[1]
  Robert
  Hugh[a]
  Waleran
  Beatrice of Ponthieu (1022–1054) was married to William of Talou, the count of Arques
  Guy I (possibly), succeeded Enguerrand II as Count of Ponthieu
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_II,_Count_of_Ponthieu
  
  BIO
  BIO: Count of Ponthiu and Montreuil; Seigneur of Abbeville.
  
  ** from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuyIPonthieudied1100 as of 5/28/2016
  
  HUGUES [de Ponthieu], son of ENGUERRAN
  
  PID list for Hughes & Bertha, 5 children: Enguerrand, Robert, son, son, daughter
  G9M5-FF1.....Huges
  GN9F-M6Q....+Bertha
  GJ15-2NP............Enguerrand
  ..........Robert
  ..........son
  ..........son
  ..........daughter mrd Guillaume son of Richard II & Papia
  
  Hugues son of Enguerrand & 1st wife; mrd Berthe dau of Guerinfrid; 5 child: Enguerrand, Robert, son, son, dau
  
  HUGUES [de Ponthieu], son of ENGUERRAND Comte [de Ponthieu] & his first wife --- (-killed 20 Nov 1052, bur Saint-Riquier). The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "son fils Hugues" succeeded a
  
  === !Royal Ancestors !Count of Ponthieu ===
  !Royal Ancestors !Count of Ponthieu
  
  === !SOURCE: spouse sealing: film #1760835. ===
  !SOURCE: spouse sealing: film #1760835. Line 6373 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Enguerrand I Count Of /PONTHIEU/ From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_II,_Count_of_Ponthieu ===
  
  The Carmen de Hastingae Proelio of Bishop Guy of Amiens, edited by Catherine Morton and Hope Muntz, Oxford at the Clarendon Press, 1972.
  Medieval Lands Project on Hugh II, Count of Ponthieu
  
  === NOTES: Count of Ponthieu !SOURCES: Roy ===
  NOTES: Count of Ponthieu !SOURCES: Royal Ancestors of Magna Carta Barons; by Collins, pg. 206
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v1-p351fn(d), (FH ===
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v1-p351fn(d), (FHL 942 D22cok);
  
  === #Générale# Comte de Ponthieu & Montreuil ===
  #Générale# Comte de Ponthieu & Montreuil, Seigneurd'Abbevi lle
  
  === BIOGRAPHY: 7th Gen. desc. of Alfred 'Th ===
  BIOGRAPHY: 7th Gen. desc. of Alfred 'The Great' 9th gen. desc. of Charlemagne
  
  === https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/104496700/hugues_ii-de_ponthieu ===
  Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 30 August 2018), memorial page for Hugues II de Ponthieu (1003–20 Nov 1052), Find A Grave Memorial no. 104496700, citing Abbey church of Saint-Riquier, Saint-Riquier, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France ; Maintained by Mad (contributor 47329061) .
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO.68) P.13, 20, 21;
  
  === ! Europaasche Stammtafeln neue folge vol ===
  ! Europaasche Stammtafeln neue folge vol 3 tafel 635;
  
  === Count of Ponthieu. ===
  Count of Ponthieu.
  
  === #Générale# Comte de Ponthieu & Montreui ===
  #Générale# Comte de Ponthieu & Montreuil, Seigneurd'Abbevi lle
  
  === Gf. v. Ponthieu u. Montreuil, Herr v. Ab ===
  Gf. v. Ponthieu u. Montreuil, Herr v. Abbeville um 1045
  
  === Hugh succeeded his father as Count de P ===
  Hugh succeeded his father as Count de Ponthieu in 1046
  
  === !AKA: Hugh II, Count of Ponthieu - Doc. ===
  !AKA: Hugh II, Count of Ponthieu - Doc. Line 130-24 !CHILDREN: Of Hugh II, Count and Bertha of Aumale - Doc. Line 130-24 !DEATH: Date: November 20, 1052 - Doc. Line 130-24
  
  === Comte de Ponthieu Seigneur d'Abbeville A ===
  Comte de Ponthieu Seigneur d'Abbeville Avoué de Saint Riquier
  
  === Weis. 130-24. Hugh II was Count of Pon ===
  Weis. 130-24. Hugh II was Count of Ponthieu.
  
  === Sources: RC 131, 244; A. Roots 130; Kra ===
  Sources: RC 131, 244; A. Roots 130; Kraentzler 1444; AF. Count of Ponthieu and Montreuil. Seigneur of Abbeville. K: Hugues II, Count de Ponthieu. This line follows Royalty for Commoners and AF. Roots and Kraentzlerhad Enguerrand I the son of Hugues II. RC explains, however, that some havethe line running down from Hugues I, to Enguerrand I, to Hugues II, toEnguerrand II. This apparently was where the switch occurred and one Enguerrand wasleft out. Those in the majority, who leave out the second Enguerrand, believe hewas a brother of Guy I--not his father.
  
  === BIOGRAPHY: 7th Gen. desc. of Alfred 'The ===
  BIOGRAPHY: 7th Gen. desc. of Alfred 'TheGreat' 9th gen. desc. of Charlemagne
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.21, 24; ANCESTRAL LINES (GS NUMBER 929.273 J71JME) P.301;

1. Hugh de St. Pol II Count of Saint-Pol, b. environ 1045     d. 1130 in Artois, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
2. Anne de Ponthieu, b. 8 MAR 1034 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France     d. 15 FEB 1082 in Montcavrel, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
3. Guy de Ponthieu I, b. 1036 in Saint-Pol-sur-Ternoise, France     d. 13 OCT 1100 in Abbeville, Somme, Hauts-de-France, France
4. Adele de Ponthieu, b. 1050 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardie, France     d. 1087 in Hauts-de-France, France
5. Mathilde de Ponthieu, b. in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardie, France     d. 8 NOV 1083
6. Enguerrand de Montreuil, b. 1031 in Saint-Riquier,80135,Somme,Picardie,FRANCE,     d. 6 NOV 1053 in Arques-la-Bataille,76026,Seine-Maritime,Normandie,FRANCE,

1. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy - HUGUES (-killed 20 Nov 1052, bur Saint-Riquier)
   Author: FMG Projects/MedLands
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#HuguesPonthieudied1052;
   Note: i) HUGUES (-killed 20 Nov 1052, bur Saint-Riquier). The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "son fils Hugues" succeeded after the death of "Angelran"[696].
   Page: Source record for HUGUES (-killed 20 Nov 1052, bur Saint-Riquier).
   
2. Title: Hugues IV du Maine, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q23T-J5R1 : 6 August 2020), Hugues IV du Maine, ; Burial, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France, Cathédrale Saint Julien-Le Mans; citing record ID 157849708, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q23T-J5R1;
   
3. Title: Peerage, The
   Author: Darryl Lundy, The Peerage, a genealogical survey of teh Peerage of Britian as well as the royal families of Europe(http://thepeerage.com : accessed 17 Jan 2020), Enguerrand I;
   Note: Enguerrand I, Comte de Ponthieu was born in 990.1 He was the son of Hugues I, Comte de Ponthieu and Gisle Capet, Princesse des Francs.1 He married Adeline van Hollant, daughter of Arnulf \'Gandensis\' Graaf in Hollant en West Friesland and Liutgarde von Luxemburg, in 1033.1 He died in 1045.1Child of Enguerrand I, Comte de Ponthieu Hugues II, Comte de Ponthieu+1 b. b 1016, d. 20 Nov 1052Citations [S3268] Hans Harmsen, \"re: Chester Family,\" e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 21 August 2008. Hereinafter cited as \"re: Chester Family.\"
   
4. Title: en.wikipedia.org, Hugh_II,_Count_of_Ponthieu
   Author: Hugh II of Ponthieu was count of Ponthieu and lord of Abbeville, the son of Enguerrand I of Ponthieu. Evidently Hugh II was the half brother of Guy, who became the bishop of Amiens; Fulk, who became the abbot of Forest l'Abbaye; and Robert. However, it is possible that both Robert and Hugh II were the sons of Enguerrand's first wife, and Guy and Fulk the sons of a later wife that Enguerrand I married when he was in his forties. Hugh II was married to Bertha of Aumale, Countess of Aumale. They had at least five children: Enguerrand II who succeeded Hugh II as Count of Ponthieu; Robert; Hugh (whose name is inferred by evidence contained within The Carmen de Hastingae Proelio); Waleran, and a daughter who was married to William of Talou, the count of Arques, and uncle to duke William of Normandy (the Conqueror).
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_II,_Count_of_Ponthieu;
   Note: The Carmen de Hastingae Proelio of Bishop Guy of Amiens, edited by Catherine Morton and Hope Muntz, Oxford at the Clarendon Press, 1972. Medieval Lands Project on Hugh II, Count of Ponthieu
   Page: Children
   
5. Title: Hugues II de Ponthieu, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLG-NV36 : 23 November 2022), Hugues II de Ponthieu, ; Burial, Saint-Riquier, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France, Abbatiale de Saint Riquier; citing record ID 104496700, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLG-NV36;
   
6. Title: Hugues IV du Maine, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q23T-J5R1 : 6 August 2020), Hugues IV du Maine, ; Burial, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France, Cathédrale Saint Julien-Le Mans; citing record ID 157849708, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q23T-J5R1;
   
7. Title: Wikipedia, Hugues IV du Maine
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_IV,_Count_of_Maine;
   
8. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy - HUGUES [de Ponthieu], son of ENGUERRAND Comte [de Ponthieu] & his first wife --- (-killed 20 Nov 1052, bur Saint-Riquier)
   Author: FMG Projects/MedLands
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#HuguesPonthieudied1052;
   Note: HUGUES [de Ponthieu], son of ENGUERRAND Comte [de Ponthieu] & his first wife --- (-killed 20 Nov 1052, bur Saint-Riquier). The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "son fils Hugues" succeeded after the death of "Angelran"[701]. He fought at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 according to the poem Carmen, attributed to his uncle Guy Bishop of Amiens, although the date is inconsistent with his date of death shown here. Comte de Montreuil. m BERTHE d'Aumâle, daughter of GUERINFRID Seigneur d'Aumâle & his wife ---. The foundation charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy narrates the church’s foundation by “Guerinfrido qui condidit castellum…Albamarla” and names “Engueranni consulis qui filius fuit Berte supradicti Guerinfridi filie et Adelidis comitisse uxoris sue sororis…Willelmi Regis Anglorum”[702]. Hugues & his wife had five children: 1. ENGUERRAND (-killed in battle Château d'Arques 25 Oct [1053]). The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Hugues" had four sons of whom the eldest "Angelran" confirmed a donation of his father to Saint-Riquier on his deathbed by charter dated "XII Kal Dec"[703]. The foundation charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy names “Engueranni consulis qui filius fuit Berte supradicti Guerinfridi filie et Adelidis comitisse uxoris sue sororis…Willelmi Regis Anglorum”[704]. Comte de Montreuil. Orderic Vitalis records that “tempore Rodberti ducis Gislebertus comes Brionniæ” invaded “in pagum Vimmacensem” [Vimeu] but was repulsed by “Ingelrannus Pontivi comes”[705]. Le Prévost dates this event to “antérieure à 1034, époque présumée de la fondation du Bec”[706]. Seigneur d'Aumâle. Comte d’Abbeville: Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmum Archacensem” rebelled against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, helped by Henri I King of France, and that “Ingelrannus Abbatisvillæ comes...ac Hugo cognomento Bardulfus” were killed by the duke’s forces during the attack on his castle of Arques[707]. m as her first husband, ADELAIS de Normandie, illegitimate daughter of ROBERT II Duke of Normandy & his mistress --- (-[1081/86]). Robert de Torigny names "Aeliz" as the daughter of Duke Robert II "de alia concubina" from Herleve[708]. The foundation charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy names “Engueranni consulis qui filius fuit Berte supradicti Guerinfridi filie et Adelidis comitisse uxoris sue sororis…Willelmi Regis Anglorum”[709]. She retained the title Comtesse d'Aumâle after her first marriage. She married secondly ([1053/54]) Lambert de Boulogne Comte de Lens, and thirdly ([1060]) Eudes Comte de Troyes [Blois-Champagne], who succeeded as Comte d'Aumâle in [1070]. Her second marriage is deduced from the same charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy which also names “Judita comitissa domine supradicte filia”[710]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William I granted "comitatum Hildernessæ" to "Odoni...Campaniensi nepoti Theobaldi comitis" who had married "sororem...regis filiam...Rodberti ducis"[711]. Enguerrand & his wife had three children: a) GUY [I] de Montreuil (-13 Nov [1100], bur Abbéville, Saint-Pierre). A charter dated 1100 included in the cartulary of Saint-Josse records a grant of fishing rights by "Guido comes Monsteroli et Pontivensium" which names "Hugo noster avus" and "patre meo Ingerrano"[712]. This is inconsistent with the Chronique de Saint Riquier which records that "comte Gui fils du comte Hugues" succeeded after "Angelran son frère" was killed by the Normans and possessed the county of Ponthieu and the avouerie of Saint-Riquier[713]. It is assumed that the charter provides the more reliable record of Guy's parentage. Comte de Montreuil. Comte de Ponthieu. - COMTES de PONTHIEU. b) ADELAIDE de Montreuil . The foundation charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy narrates the church’s foundation by “Guerinfrido qui condidit castellum…Albamarla” and names “Engueranni consulis qui filius fuit Berte supradicti Guerinfridi filie et Adelidis comitisse uxoris sue sororis…Willelmi Regis Anglorum” and “Addelidis comitissa supradicti Engueranni et supradicte Adelidis filia…Judita comitissa domine supradicte filia”[714]. 1098. c) HELISSENDE de Montreuil . The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified. 1096. "Comes Hugo de Sancto Paulo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme with the consent of "uxoris sue Helisendis filiorumque suorum Ingelranni et Hugonis" by charter dated 17 Jun 1095[715]. m (before 1091) HUGUES [II] Comte de Saint-Pol, son of --- (-before [1118/19]). 2. ROBERT . The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Hugues" had four sons of whom the eldest was "Angelran" but does not name the three others[716]. same person as…? ROBERT d’Aumâle (-after 1085). Domesday Book records “Robert d’Aumale” holding numerous properties in Devonshire[717]. 3. son . The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Hugues" had four sons of whom the eldest was "Angelran" but does not name the three others[718]. 4. son . The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Hugues" had four sons of whom the eldest was "Angelran" but does not name the three others[719]. same person as…? GALERAN (-killed in battle Mortemer 1054). 5. daughter . Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmum Archacensem” went into exile “cum uxore sua sorore...Widonis comitis Pontivi” after his rebellion was crushed by Duke Guillaume II and found refuge with “Eustachium Boloniæ comitem” with whom he remained in exile until he died[720]. m GUILLAUME de Normandie Comte d'Arques, son of RICHARD II "le Bon/l'Irascible" Duke of Normandy & his second wife Papia [Poppa] --- (-1054).
   Page: Source record for HUGUES [de Ponthieu], son of ENGUERRAND Comte [de Ponthieu] & his first wife --- (-killed 20 Nov 1052, bur Saint-Riquier).