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Jean de Montmort de Mareuil-Sur-Ay II
- Preferred Name: Jean de Montmort de Mareuil-Sur-Ay II[1] [2] [3]
- Gender: M
- Death: aproximadamente 1127 in Mareuil-sur-Ay, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, França at LATI: N9.0462 LONG: E0.0402
- FSID: GXLL-4TS
- Birth: aproximadamente 1080 in Mareuil-sur-Ay, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, França at LATI: N9.0462 LONG: E0.0402
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Vicomte de Mareuil , Seigneur de Neufchâtel (1114)
- Notes:
=== ! Europaasche Stammtafeln neue folge vol ===
! Europaasche Stammtafeln neue folge vol 13 tafel 139;
=== #Générale# Seigneur de Pleurs, Vicomte ===
#Générale# Seigneur de Pleurs, Vicomte de Mareuil.sur.Ay(5 1)
Preferred Parents:
Father: Dude de Mareuil, b. 1050 in Mareuil-sur-Ay, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, França d. 1114 in Châlons-en-Champagne, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, França
Mother: Adélaide de Chalon, b. 1063 in Châlons-en-Champagne, Marne, Grand Est, França
Family 1: Adélaïde de Ramerupt Dame d'Arcis-sur-Aube, b. ABT 1085 in Arcis-sur-Aube, Aube, Champagne-Ardenne, França d. 1147
- Elisabeth de Mareuil-sur-ay Vicomtesse of Rouch, b. in Montmirail, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France d. 1207 in Herstmonceux, East Sussex, Inglaterra, United Kingdom
Sources:
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamchalons.htm#JeanMareuilMdauAndreRamerupt;
Note: JEAN . Vicomte de Mareuil. m --- de Ramerupt, daughter of ANDRE de Montdidier Seigneur de Ramerupt & his first wife Adela ---. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Ebalum Cathalaunensem episcopum et Hugonem comitem de Hyspania et Oliverum et filias" as children of "Andreas comes de Rameruth", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned second) married "Iohannes vicecomes de Maruel" by whom she had "Manassem de Plaierris et sororem eius, quam duxit Helyas de Monte-Mirail, de qua nati sunt Galcherus et Andreas et Hugo Prorulliensis abbas; defuncto vero Helia, nupsit domino de Monte-regali, cui peperit liberos"[555]. Jean & his wife had two children:
a) MANASSES de Pleurs . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis specifies that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned second) of "Andreas comes de Rameruth" married "Iohannes vicecomes de Maruel" by whom she had "Manassem de Plaierris..."[556]. m ---. The name of Manassès’s wife is not known. Manassès & his wife had one child:
i) [ADELAIS de Pleurs (-after 1170). There is some doubt about Adelais’s parentage. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis specifies that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned second) of "Andreas comes de Rameruth" married "Iohannes vicecomes de Maruel" by whom she had "Manassem de Plaierris et sororem eius, quam duxit Helyas de Monte-Mirail, de qua nati sunt Galcherus et Andreas et Hugo Prorulliensis abbas; defuncto vero Helia, nupsit domino de Monte-regali, cui peperit liberos"[557]. However, the charter dated to [1150] quoted below indicates that her father was Manassès (assuming that “socer” can be translated in its strict sense of father-in-law). The date of her second marriage is set by the charter dated 1145 under which [her husband] "Ansericus de Monteregio" donated property to Pontigny, with the support of “--- uxor eiusdem Anserici”[558]. The charter dated to [1150], under which “Ansericus Montisregii dominus” recorded an agreement between the monks of Pontigny and “dominum Manasserium socerum meum” relating to “prato...supra Marsegni” which the latter had claimed[559]. "...Ansericus dominus Montisregalis et uxor eius Adelaidis..." at the donation of land near “boscum domini Montisregalis” to Reigny abbey made by “Ivo de Avalone...”[560]. "Ansericus de Monteregali…Ansericus filius eius…Johannes minor frater eiusdem et eorum mater Aalidis, Heluis filia eius" attested the donation to Reigny by "Ivo de Avalone" by charter dated 1164[561]. “Ansericus dominus Montisregalis” recorded an agreement with Reigny abbey, with the consent of “Aalaydis uxor mea et Ansericus et Johannes filii mei et Sibilla predicti Anserici filii mei uxor”, by charter dated 1170[562]. "Ansericus de Monteregali" donated property to the church of Notre-Dame de Montréal, for the soul of "Alaydis uxoris meæ" and with the consent of "Ansericus et Johannes filii mei et Sybilla predicti Anserici uxor", by charter dated 1170[563]. m firstly HELIE de Montmirail, son of --- (-before 1145). m secondly (1145 or before) ANSERIC [I] Seigneur de Montréal, son of HUGUES de Chacenay Seigneur de Montréal & his wife Helvide de Baudémont (([1119/23]-25 or 26 Jan 1174).]
- Title: Jaen Vicomte de Mareuil - Medlands - FMG
Publication: Name: http://shop.fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamchalons.htm#JeanMareuilMdauAndreRamerupt;
- Title: Fontes Casamento: http://gw.geneanet.org/fredericserre?lang=fr;pz=frederic;nz=serre;ocz=0;p=anseric+iv;n=de+montreal
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