Louis de Chiny III

• Preferred Name: Louis de Chiny III^{[1] [2]}
  
• Alternate Name: de Chiny
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: GX26-HJ8
  
• Alt. Death: 10 AUG 1189 in Belgrade, Namur, Wallonië, België at LATI: N0.4709 LONG: E0.826
  
• Death: 10 AUG 1189 in Namur, Belgique at LATI: N0.49 LONG: E0.86 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Birth: 1141 in Luxemburg, Holy Roman Empire at LATI: N9.75 LONG: E0.167 with note: GEDCOM data. Stamboom van Elderen en van der Speld
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Comte de Chiny
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
  
  LOUIS [III] (-Belgrade [5 Aug] 1189). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "comes Ludovicus, Theodericus de Marleriis, episcopus Arnulphus Virdunensis, domna de Hirges et Ida domna de Asperomonte et mater Rogerii de Walehem" as children of "Albertus comes senior Namucensis"[633], although "Namucensis" is an error for "Cisneiensis".
  
  “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[634]. Comte de Chiny.
  
  “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei” confirmed the donation of “usuaria banni de Poillei” made by “dominus Amalricus de Radulfi-curte“ [Raucourt] to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made by “Radulfus pater Amalrici...per manus patris mei comitis Alberti piæ memoriæ”, by charter dated 1162, witnessed by “Amalricus archidiaconus patruus prædicti Amalrici...”[635].
  
  “Agnes...comitissa de Chisnei...coram filiis meis Lodovico et Theodorico” attested that “dominus Cono senior de Hons” had donated “usuaria nemoris Bellonis Campaniæ“ to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made “per manum meam et mariti mei piæ memoriæ comitis Alberti” with the consent of “piæ memoriæ Symonis ducis Lotaringiæ” from whom Cono held half of the property, by charter dated 1172[636]. “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei necdum habens filium vel filiam...cum conjuge mea Sophia comitissa” confirmed donations to Orval, including those made by “avus meus Ottho”, with the consent of “matre mea et fratribus meis Hugone et Theodorico“, by charter dated 1173 (before 23 May)[637].
  
  “Lodovicus...comes de Chisnei...cum uxore mea Sophia” confirmed an agreement made between Orval and “Dudo de Malendrei et uxor eius” by charter dated 1178[638]. "Anetis comitissa de Chinei" donated part of the forest of Blanchampagne to the church of Moulins, for the soul of "domini Alberti comitis", by charter dated to [1185] which names "filios meos heredes, maxime Ludovicum et Teodericum"[639]. “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei...per manus uxoris meæ Sophiæ et filii mei Ludovici et matris meæ et fratris mei Theodorici” confirmed the donation of “nemore Bellonis Campaniæ” made to Orval by “homines mei Cono de Viler, Symon de Firmitate et Lambertus de Staules” by charter dated 1185[640]. [The necrology of Orval records the death “IV Id Aug” of “Ludovicus comes de Chiney, qui renovavit cartas nostras”[641]. It is not known with certainty to which Louis Comte de Chiny this entry relates.]
  
  m (before 23 May 1173) as her first husband, SOPHIE, daughter of --- (-13 Aug [1207 or after]). “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei necdum habens filium vel filiam...cum conjuge mea Sophia comitissa” confirmed donations to Orval, including those made by “avus meus Ottho”, with the consent of “matre mea et fratribus meis Hugone et Theodorico“, by charter dated 1173 (before 23 May)[642]. “Lodovicus...comes de Chisnei...cum uxore mea Sophia” confirmed an agreement made between Orval and “Dudo de Malendrei et uxor eius” by charter dated 1178[643]. “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei...per manus uxoris meæ Sophiæ et filii mei Ludovici et matris meæ et fratris mei Theodorici” confirmed the donation of “nemore Bellonis Campaniæ” made to Orval by “homines mei Cono de Viler, Symon de Firmitate et Lambertus de Staules” by charter dated 1185[644].
  
  She married secondly (before 1193) Anseau de Garlande. “Ansellus de Gallanda” granted privileges to “burgensibus meis de Turnomio”, with the consent of “Sofie uxoris mee et Johannis fratris mei”, by charter dated 1193, witnessed by "…Sofia uxor mea, Johannes frater meus, Willelmus frater meus, Aubertus de Andesello, Ansellus de Insula…"[645]. “Sophia comitissa de Chisnei...per manum filiorum meorum Ludovici comitis junioris de Chisneio et Anselmi” donated “pratum apud Briuele super Mosa” [Brieule-sur-Meuse] to Orval, with the consent of “domini Anselmi de Gerlande mariti mei”, by charter dated 1197[646]. The name of her second son suggests that he was born from her second marriage. “Sophia...comitissa de Chisneio...quoque filius eius comes de Chisneio” notified that “homines...de Morei” had donated a field to Orval by charter dated 1198[647]. “Sophia comitissa de Chisneio” noted an agreement between Orval abbey and “Balduinus Bocez de Yvodio” by charter dated 1201[648].
  
  She married thirdly (1201) Gauthier Seigneur d'Yvoix. “Galtherus dominus Yvodii et...eius uxor Sophia comitissa de Chisneio” donated “patronatum...ecclesiæ de Giversei” to Orval, for the souls of “domini Ludovici comitis de Chisnei et domini Anselmi de Garlande”, by charter dated 1201[649]. “Ludovicus junior...comes de Chineio...cum matre mea Sophia” donated harvest “in molendino...apud Verton” to Orval, in exchange for revenue from property “apud Savinsart” which had been donated by “mater mea Sophia comitissa” for the soul of “bonæ memoriæ patris mei Ludovici comitis”, by charter dated 1207[650]. The necrology of Orval records the death “Id Aug” of “Sophia comitissa de Chiney” and her donation of “molendinum de Brieule et...census a Saint Vinsart”[651].
  
  Louis [III] & his wife had [two] children:
  
  a) LOUIS [IV] (after 1173-7 Oct 1226, bur Orval).
  b) GERTRUDE*. “Theodoricus dominus de Walcurt”
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  Louis III (d. August 12, 1189), Count of Chiny,[1] son of Albert, Count of Chiny, and his spouse Agnes of Bar.[2]
  
  He succeeded his father in 1162 and continued the family's support of the Abbey of Orval. He entered the Third Crusade alongside Emperor Frederick I Barbarossa, dying in transit in Belgrade.
  
  He married Sophie (d. 1207), d'Aspremont
  
  [3] Their children were:
  Louis IV, Count of Chiny
  Gertrude, married to Thierry II, Seigneur de Walcourt, Count of Montaigu.
  
  Upon his death, his son Louis assumed the role of Count of Chiny.
  
  === Count of Chiny in 1162, died while on a ===
  Count of Chiny in 1162, died while on a crusade
  
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• m. 1172

1. Louis de Chiny IV dit le Jeune, b. 1172 in Avesnes, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France     d. 11 OCT 1226 in Cahors, Lot, Midi-Pyrénées, France

1. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Note: LOUIS [III] (-Belgrade [5 Aug] 1189). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "comes Ludovicus, Theodericus de Marleriis, episcopus Arnulphus Virdunensis, domna de Hirges et Ida domna de Asperomonte et mater Rogerii de Walehem" as children of "Albertus comes senior Namucensis"[633], although "Namucensis" is an error for "Cisneiensis". “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[634]. Comte de Chiny. “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei” confirmed the donation of “usuaria banni de Poillei” made by “dominus Amalricus de Radulfi-curte“ [Raucourt] to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made by “Radulfus pater Amalrici...per manus patris mei comitis Alberti piæ memoriæ”, by charter dated 1162, witnessed by “Amalricus archidiaconus patruus prædicti Amalrici...”[635]. “Agnes...comitissa de Chisnei...coram filiis meis Lodovico et Theodorico” attested that “dominus Cono senior de Hons” had donated “usuaria nemoris Bellonis Campaniæ“ to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made “per manum meam et mariti mei piæ memoriæ comitis Alberti” with the consent of “piæ memoriæ Symonis ducis Lotaringiæ” from whom Cono held half of the property, by charter dated 1172[636]. “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei necdum habens filium vel filiam...cum conjuge mea Sophia comitissa” confirmed donations to Orval, including those made by “avus meus Ottho”, with the consent of “matre mea et fratribus meis Hugone et Theodorico“, by charter dated 1173 (before 23 May)[637]. “Lodovicus...comes de Chisnei...cum uxore mea Sophia” confirmed an agreement made between Orval and “Dudo de Malendrei et uxor eius” by charter dated 1178[638]. "Anetis comitissa de Chinei" donated part of the forest of Blanchampagne to the church of Moulins, for the soul of "domini Alberti comitis", by charter dated to [1185] which names "filios meos heredes, maxime Ludovicum et Teodericum"[639]. “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei...per manus uxoris meæ Sophiæ et filii mei Ludovici et matris meæ et fratris mei Theodorici” confirmed the donation of “nemore Bellonis Campaniæ” made to Orval by “homines mei Cono de Viler, Symon de Firmitate et Lambertus de Staules” by charter dated 1185[640]. [The necrology of Orval records the death “IV Id Aug” of “Ludovicus comes de Chiney, qui renovavit cartas nostras”[641]. It is not known with certainty to which Louis Comte de Chiny this entry relates.] m (before 23 May 1173) as her first husband, SOPHIE, daughter of --- (-13 Aug [1207 or after]). “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei necdum habens filium vel filiam...cum conjuge mea Sophia comitissa” confirmed donations to Orval, including those made by “avus meus Ottho”, with the consent of “matre mea et fratribus meis Hugone et Theodorico“, by charter dated 1173 (before 23 May)[642]. “Lodovicus...comes de Chisnei...cum uxore mea Sophia” confirmed an agreement made between Orval and “Dudo de Malendrei et uxor eius” by charter dated 1178[643]. “Ludovicus...comes de Chisnei...per manus uxoris meæ Sophiæ et filii mei Ludovici et matris meæ et fratris mei Theodorici” confirmed the donation of “nemore Bellonis Campaniæ” made to Orval by “homines mei Cono de Viler, Symon de Firmitate et Lambertus de Staules” by charter dated 1185[644]. She married secondly (before 1193) Anseau de Garlande. “Ansellus de Gallanda” granted privileges to “burgensibus meis de Turnomio”, with the consent of “Sofie uxoris mee et Johannis fratris mei”, by charter dated 1193, witnessed by "…Sofia uxor mea, Johannes frater meus, Willelmus frater meus, Aubertus de Andesello, Ansellus de Insula…"[645]. “Sophia comitissa de Chisnei...per manum filiorum meorum Ludovici comitis junioris de Chisneio et Anselmi” donated “pratum apud Briuele super Mosa” [Brieule-sur-Meuse] to Orval, with the consent of “domini Anselmi de Gerlande mariti mei”, by charter dated 1197[646]. The name of her second son suggests that he was born from her second marriage. “Sophia...comitissa de Chisneio...quoque filius eius comes de Chisneio” notified that “homines...de Morei” had donated a field to Orval by charter dated 1198[647]. “Sophia comitissa de Chisneio” noted an agreement between Orval abbey and “Balduinus Bocez de Yvodio” by charter dated 1201[648]. She married thirdly (1201) Gauthier Seigneur d'Yvoix. “Galtherus dominus Yvodii et...eius uxor Sophia comitissa de Chisneio” donated “patronatum...ecclesiæ de Giversei” to Orval, for the souls of “domini Ludovici comitis de Chisnei et domini Anselmi de Garlande”, by charter dated 1201[649]. “Ludovicus junior...comes de Chineio...cum matre mea Sophia” donated harvest “in molendino...apud Verton” to Orval, in exchange for revenue from property “apud Savinsart” which had been donated by “mater mea Sophia comitissa” for the soul of “bonæ memoriæ patris mei Ludovici comitis”, by charter dated 1207[650]. The necrology of Orval records the death “Id Aug” of “Sophia comitissa de Chiney” and her donation of “molendinum de Brieule et...census a Saint Vinsart”[651]. Louis [III] & his wife had [two] children: a) LOUIS [IV] (after 1173-7 Oct 1226, bur Orval). b) [--- . “Theodoricus dominus de Walcurt”,
   
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   Note: Ludwig III, Count of Chiny, Seigneur d'Orgeo1,2,3,4 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 M, #27078, d. 10 August 1189 Father Albert, Count of Chiny2 d. 29 Sep 1162 Mother Agnes von Bar2 d. a 1185 Ludwig III, Count of Chiny, Seigneur d'Orgeo married Sophia d' Aspremont, daughter of Gobert IV, Sire d'Aspremont & de Dun and Adelaide de Dun; Her 1st husband.2,3,4 Ludwig III, Count of Chiny, Seigneur d'Orgeo died on 10 August 1189 at Belgrade, Serbia.2,4 Family Sophia d' Aspremont d. a 13 Aug 1207 Children Ludwig IV, Count of Chiny+4 d. 2 Jan 1227 (Miss) de Chiny+2,3