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Raoul DE NESLE II
- Preferred Name: Raoul DE NESLE II[1]
- Gender: M
- FSID: LTXM-TG2
- Birth: ABT 1108 in Nesle, Hauts-de-France at LATI: N9.9293 LONG: E0.935
- Death: BET 1153 AND 1160 in Brugges, French Flanders at LATI: N1.22 LONG: E0.23
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: "Comte de Soissons"
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
RAOUL [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Nesle & his wife Rainurde --- (-[1153/60]). Père Anselme states that Dreux and Raoul [II] consented to the donation of the chapel of Beaulieu made by their brother Ives [II] Comte de Soissons to the abbey of Soissons Saint-Crespin by charter dated 1146[757]. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1161] issued by [his brother] "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis"[758], read together with the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[759].
Châtelain de Nesles: “...Rogeri castellani de Peronia, Radulphi castellani de Nigella...” witnessed the charter dated 1146 under which Thierry Bishop of Amiens confirmed the donation made by "Alelmus de Ambianis"[760]. Châtelain de Bruges. "…Radulfi Brugensis castellani…" signed the charter dated 1151 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property to the town of Saint-Omer[761].
m as her first husband, GERTRUDE de Montaigu, daughter of LAMBERT Comte de Montaigu & his wife --- (-after 10 Sep 1185). The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis records that "Evrardum", son of Richildis de Hainaut, married "filiam Lamberti Leodiensis comitis Gertrudem nomine, de qua Balduinum filium genuit"[762]. According to the Chronicon Hanoniense, "Evrardum cognomina Radonem" married "matrem Cononis et Iohannis et Radulphi" during the lifetime of his first wife[763].
She married secondly Everard [III] Raoul Châtelain de Tournai. “Gertrudis Brugensis castellan et filius eius Joannes castellanus” donated property to Bruges, at the request of “mariti sui piæ recordationis Radulfi”, with the consent of [her daughter-in-law] “Elisabeth...Brugensis castellana”, by charter dated 10 Sep 1185[764].
Another version of the same charter: Everard Bishop of Tournai confirmed that “Gertrudis Brugensis castellana et filius eius Joannes castellanus” donated “decimam...de Lophem...” to Bruges Sainte-Marie, in memory of “mariti sui piæ recordationis Rodulphi castellani...et filii sui comitis Cononis”, by charter dated 10 Sep 1185, witnessed by “…Desiderii scouthete de Maldenghien…”[765].
Raoul [II] & his wife had four children:
1. CONON de Nesle (-1180 before 20 Apr)
2. JEAN de Nesle (-14 Jul [1197/1200]).
3. RAOUL de Nesle (-4 Jan 1235).
4. BAUDOUIN de Nesle .
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#RaoulNesleBrugesdied11531160B as of 4/11/2016
RAOUL [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Nesle & his wife Rainurde ---
Preferred Parents:
Father: Raoul Yves DE NESLE, b. 1052 in Nesle, Somme, Picardie, France d. 1121
Mother: Unknown de Soissons, b. 1058 d. 1117
Family 1: Gertrude de Flandres, b. 1129 in Montaigu, Aisne, Picardie, France d. 1197
- Jean DE NESLE, b. 1150 in Nesle, Somme, Picardie, France d. 14 JUL 1197 in Brugge, Flandre occidentale, Belgique
Sources:
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#RaoulIINesledied11531160A;
Note: RAOUL [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Nesle & his wife Rainurde --- (-[1153/60]). Père Anselme states that Dreux and Raoul [II] consented to the donation of the chapel of Beaulieu made by their brother Ives [II] Comte de Soissons to the abbey of Soissons Saint-Crespin by charter dated 1146[757]. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1161] issued by [his brother] "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis"[758], read together with the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[759].
Châtelain de Nesles: “...Rogeri castellani de Peronia, Radulphi castellani de Nigella...” witnessed the charter dated 1146 under which Thierry Bishop of Amiens confirmed the donation made by "Alelmus de Ambianis"[760]. Châtelain de Bruges. "…Radulfi Brugensis castellani…" signed the charter dated 1151 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property to the town of Saint-Omer[761].
m as her first husband, GERTRUDE de Montaigu, daughter of LAMBERT Comte de Montaigu & his wife --- (-after 10 Sep 1185). The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis records that "Evrardum", son of Richildis de Hainaut, married "filiam Lamberti Leodiensis comitis Gertrudem nomine, de qua Balduinum filium genuit"[762]. According to the Chronicon Hanoniense, "Evrardum cognomina Radonem" married "matrem Cononis et Iohannis et Radulphi" during the lifetime of his first wife[763].
She married secondly Everard [III] Raoul Châtelain de Tournai. “Gertrudis Brugensis castellan et filius eius Joannes castellanus” donated property to Bruges, at the request of “mariti sui piæ recordationis Radulfi”, with the consent of [her daughter-in-law] “Elisabeth...Brugensis castellana”, by charter dated 10 Sep 1185[764].
Another version of the same charter: Everard Bishop of Tournai confirmed that “Gertrudis Brugensis castellana et filius eius Joannes castellanus” donated “decimam...de Lophem...” to Bruges Sainte-Marie, in memory of “mariti sui piæ recordationis Rodulphi castellani...et filii sui comitis Cononis”, by charter dated 10 Sep 1185, witnessed by “…Desiderii scouthete de Maldenghien…”[765].
Raoul [II] & his wife had four children:
1. CONON de Nesle (-1180 before 20 Apr)
2. JEAN de Nesle (-14 Jul [1197/1200]).
3. RAOUL de Nesle (-4 Jan 1235).
4. BAUDOUIN de Nesle .
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