Lucie de la Zouche FICTIONAL

• Preferred Name: Lucie de la Zouche FICTIONAL^{[1] [2]}
  
• Gender: F
  
• LDS+Baptism: 23 SEP 1933
  
• LDS+Endowment: 8 NOV 1933
  
• Death: Y
  
• Birth: in England
  
• LDS+Sealing+To+Parents: 17 OCT 1990
  
• FSID: LC89-1F1
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  LUCIE DE LA ZOUCHE WAS FICTIONAL. Please read this entirely and check the research paper attached in memories on the Fable of Alexander de Grene de Boketon (who was a real person named Alexander de Boketon.):
  
  JOHN'S HEIR, THOMAS DE GRENE MARRIED ALICE, DAUGHTER OF THOMAS DE BOLTESHAM
  
  The heir of John de Boketon was not Thomas de Greene, nor was it Thomas de Boketon. His heir was his son, John de Boketon, who was the first to receive title to the land through inheritance, and not just managerial rights as the advowson. Records seem to indicate that Alice de Boltesham was married twice, but never to a Thomas de Greene, as indicated by Halstead. In 1286, Sir Seman de Stok sued Thomas de Boltesham for the return of land that he had granted to his son, Nicholas, upon the marriage of Nicolas and Alice, the daughter of Thomas de Boltesham. It appears that the marriage was dissolved without children. Nine years later, Nicholas de Stok is listed as a debtor to a Robert Loveday, in London. Upon the death of Thomas de Boltesham in 1305, his heir is listed as a Thomas de Buckton (age 12), son of Thomas de Buckton and Alicia, daughter of Thomas de Boltesham. 45
  Thomas de Buckton’s family was from Bucton, Yorkshire. Since the young Thomas was a minor, the courts assigned John Kyng custody of the lands of Thomas de Boltesham during the minority of the heir. Thomas de Buckton finally claimed his inheritance in 1313 when he came of age. Henry de Grene was born in 1310, while Thomas de Buckton was only 17 years old,
  and still under the custody of John Kyng.
  
  There has been no relationship established yet between either the de Boketon family, the de Grene family, or the Buckton family of Yorkshire. It could be this family that Halstead
  confused with the de Boketon family.
  
  THOMAS' HEIR, THOMAS DE GREENE MARRIED LUCY, DAUGHTER OF EUDO DE LA ZOUCHE
  
  Since John’s heir was not Thomas, and there was never a marriage between a Thomas de Greene and Alice de Boltesham, then the second Thomas de Greene never existed. His alleged
  wife did not exist either. The marriage of Eudo de la Zouche and Millicent de Cantelupe produced five children, two sons and three daughters. The first son was William la Zouche, the 1st Lord of Haryngworth, who married Maud Lovel, daughter of Sir John Lovel. The second son was Eon. The daughters were Eva, who married Sir Maurice de Berkeley; Eleanor, who married Sir John de Harcourt; and Elizabeth, who married Sir Nicholas Poyntz. They never had a daughter named Lucy. Many family genealogists have tried to tie their pedigrees into this prominent family, and it appears that Halstead was guilty of doing it too.
  The actual heir of the second John de Boketon was Thomas de Boughton, whose wife was Johanna, and whose mother was Juliana. This was the Thomas, as noted before, who sold the
  property to Henry Grene of Isham, junior. Several decades after purchasing the land from the Abbey of St. Wandrille, a new abbot filed suit against Thomas and his mother, Juliana, claiming that his predecessor had not obtained proper approval for the sale of the land, from either the Priory of Upavon or the Bishop of Salisbury. Therefore, he claimed the sale was void. For whatever reason, the abbot failed to prosecute, and so the courts ruled in favor of Thomas de Boughton. The issue was finally put to rest in 1337 when the Pope absolved the Abbey of any wrong doing in selling the property to John de Boketon. It was only three years later when Thomas de Boughton sold the property to Henry Grene of Isham, junior.
  
  === LUCIE DE LA ZOUCHE WAS FICTIONAL ===
  LUCIE DE LA ZOUCHE WAS FICTIONAL. Please read this entirely and check the research paper attached in memories on the Fable of Alexander de Grene de Boketon (who was a real person named Alexander de Boketon.):
  
  JOHN'S HEIR, THOMAS DE GRENE MARRIED ALICE, DAUGHTER OF THOMAS DE BOLTESHAM
  
  The heir of John de Boketon was not Thomas de Greene, nor was it Thomas de Boketon. His heir was his son, John de Boketon, who was the first to receive title to the land through inheritance, and not just managerial rights as the advowson. Records seem to indicate that Alice de Boltesham was married twice, but never to a Thomas de Greene, as indicated by Halstead. In 1286, Sir Seman de Stok sued Thomas de Boltesham for the return of land that he had granted to his son, Nicholas, upon the marriage of Nicolas and Alice, the daughter of Thomas de Boltesham. It appears that the marriage was dissolved without children. Nine years later, Nicholas de Stok is listed as a debtor to a Robert Loveday, in London. Upon the death of Thomas de Boltesham in 1305, his heir is listed as a Thomas de Buckton (age 12), son of Thomas de Buckton and Alicia, daughter of Thomas de Boltesham. 45
  Thomas de Buckton’s family was from Bucton, Yorkshire. Since the young Thomas was a minor, the courts assigned John Kyng custody of the lands of Thomas de Boltesham during the minority of the heir. Thomas de Buckton finally claimed his inheritance in 1313 when he came of age. Henry de Grene was born in 1310, while Thomas de Buckton was only 17 years old,
  and still under the custody of John Kyng.
  
  There has been no relationship established yet between either the de Boketon family, the de Grene family, or the Buckton family of Yorkshire. It could be this family that Halstead confused with the de Boketon family.
  
  THOMAS' HEIR, THOMAS DE GREENE MARRIED LUCY, DAUGHTER OF EUDO DE LA ZOUCHE
  
  Since John’s heir was not Thomas, and there was never a marriage between a Thomas de Greene and Alice de Boltesham, then the second Thomas de Greene never existed. His alleged wife did not exist either. The marriage of Eudo de la Zouche and Millicent de Cantelupe produced five children, two sons and three daughters. The first son was William la Zouche, the 1st Lord of Haryngworth, who married Maud Lovel, daughter of Sir John Lovel. The second son was Eon. The daughters were Eva, who married Sir Maurice de Berkeley; Eleanor, who married Sir John de Harcourt; and Elizabeth, who married Sir Nicholas Poyntz. They never had a daughter named Lucy. Many family genealogists have tried to tie their pedigrees into this prominent family, and it appears that Halstead was guilty of doing it too.
  
  The actual heir of the second John de Boketon was Thomas de Boughton, whose wife was Johanna, and whose mother was Juliana. This was the Thomas, as noted before, who sold the
  property to Henry Grene of Isham, junior. Several decades after purchasing the land from the Abbey of St. Wandrille, a new abbot filed suit against Thomas and his mother, Juliana, claiming that his predecessor had not obtained proper approval for the sale of the land, from either the Priory of Upavon or the Bishop of Salisbury. Therefore, he claimed the sale was void. For whatever reason, the abbot failed to prosecute, and so the courts ruled in favor of Thomas de Boughton. The issue was finally put to rest in 1337 when the Pope absolved the Abbey of any wrong doing in selling the property to John de Boketon. It was only three years later when Thomas de Boughton sold the property to Henry Grene of Isham, junior.

• m. 1309

1. Henry de Grene Chief Justice of the King's Bench, b. 1310 in Isham, Northamptonshire, England     d. 6 AUG 1369 in Boughton, Northamptonshire, England

1. Title: The Greenes of Rhode Island with historical records of English ancestry 1534-1902 pg. 141
   Publication: Name: https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE6455949&pds_handle=&from=fhd;
   Page: pp 5-6 refer to her.
   
2. Title: Succinct Genealogical Proofs of the House of Greene that Were Lords of Drayton
   Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/301311/?offset=0#page=1&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=;
   Note: This book is a Greene family genealogy done by Sir Henry Mordaunt under the pseudonym Robert Halstead. The genealogy prior to Sir Henry de Grene, Chief Justice, is fictional and was likely created to add nobility to Sir Henry Mordaunt, who inherited much of the Grene of Drayton estate. It amalgamates several real persons and combines their names. Genealogists in the 2020s, and earlier, have debunked many of these amalgamated persons. In particular, the two wives of the fictional "Thomas Greene de Boketon," Lucie de la Zouche and Christian Inwardby de Ireby are also fiction. The real father of Sir Henry de Grene, Chief Justice, was Henry del Grene of Isham, Northamptonshire, a commoner who had earned an extreme amount of wealth in the wool industry.
   Page: This is the original publication from where Lucie de la Zouche and Christian Inwardby de Ireby were created.