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Joan de Vere
- Preferred Name: Joan de Vere[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Gender: F
- FSID: 9HZT-7LN
- Death: 21 NOV 1293 in Lewes St Anne, Lewes, Sussex, England at LATI: N0.8713 LONG: E0.0254 with note: Standardized
- Birth: ABT 1255 in Oxfordshire, England at LATI: N1.8574 LONG: E1.2935
- Burial: 21 NOV 1293 in Chichester, Sussex, England at LATI: N0.8364 LONG: E0.7778
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Joan de Vere was the daughter of Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford and Alice de Sandford.
She married William de Warenne, son of John de Warenne, 7th Earl of Surrey and Alice de Lusignan, circa June 1285.
She died circa 23 November 1293.
Children of Joan de Vere and William de Warenne
1. Alice de Warenne d. b 23 May 1338
2. John de Warenne, 8th Earl of Surrey b. 1286, d. 30 Jun 1347
http://thepeerage.com/p358.htm#i3578
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#JohnVereOxforddied1360A as of 7/24/2016
JOAN (-23 Nov 1293 or before, bur Lewes Priory). Inquisitions following a writ d
=== Joan, daughter of Robert de Vere, 5th Ea ===
Joan, daughter of Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford.
(Wikipedia)
Joan de Vere married William de Warren, who died in the lifetime of his father, Dec. 15, 1286. (He was the son of John Plantagenet de Warren and Lady Alice le Brun; daughter of Lady Isabel de Taillefer, died 1246, widow of King John, and Hugh le Brun, Earl of March; daughter of Lady Alice de Courtenay and Aymer de Taillefer, Count of Angouleme in France; daughter of Peter of France and Lady Alice, daughter of Sir Reginald de Courtney; son of Louis VI, King of France.) This William de Warren; son of John Warren and Alice le Brun; son of William de Warren and Maud Mareschal; son of Isabella de Warren and Hameline Plantagenet; daughter of William de Warren and Ala de Talvas; son of William de Warren and Isabel de Vermandois, daughter of Hugh Magnus, First Cusader; son of Henry I, King of France, and his wife, Anne of Russia; son of William de Warren and Gundreda, daughter of William, the Conqueror, King of England.
(Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 994)
=== He [William de Warenne] married, probabl ===
He [William de Warenne] married, probably in June 1285, Joan, daughter of Robert (DE VERE), 5th EARL OF OXFORD, by Alice, daughter and heir of Gilbert DE SANFORD. He died v.p. 15 December 1286, having attended a tournament at Croydon, where he is said to have been ambushed and cruelly slain by his rivals. His widow died on or before 23 November 1293, and was buried before the high altar at Lewes. [Complete Peerage XII/1:507, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
=== ! !Americans of Royal Descent, by Charle ===
! !Americans of Royal Descent, by Charles H. Browning, page 354
Preferred Parents:
Father: Robert de Vere, b. 1210 in Oxford, England d. 2 SEP 1296 in England
Mother: Alice de Saunford, b. ABT 1230 in Great Hormede, Hertfordshire, England d. 7 SEP 1317 in Dunnon, Canfield, Essex, England
Family 1: William de Warenne, b. 9 FEB 1256 in Warren, Sussex, England d. 15 DEC 1286 in Croydon, Surrey, England
- m. 10 JUN 1285 in Surrey, England
- John de Warrene, b. 30 JUN 1286 in Sussex, England d. 30 JUN 1347 in Sussex, England
- Angharad Warenne, b. ABT 1265 in Shropshire, England d. 1358
- Alice de Warenne, b. 15 JUN 1287 in Arundel, Sussex, England d. 23 MAY 1338 in Arundel Castle, Sussex, England
Sources:
- Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
Author: Source number: 1846.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: GB1
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=7836&h=324764&indiv=try;
- Title: Joan de Vere, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV23-LYVR : 4 June 2020), Joan de Vere, 1293; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV23-LYVR;
Note: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/60217813/joan-de_warrene
Joan De Vere de Warrene
BIRTH 1264 Oxford, City of Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
DEATH 21 Nov 1293 (aged 28–29) Lewes, Lewes District, East Sussex, England
BURIAL Chichester Cathedral
Chichester, Chichester District, West Sussex, England
MEMORIAL ID 60217813
Countess of Surrey. She was the daughter of Robert Devere, Earl of Oxford. She was buried in Lewes Priory together with her husband William de Warenne (1260-1285). Her tomb was moved to Chichester Cathedral after the dissolution of Lewes Priory.
- Title: Joan De Vere De Warenne, "Find A Grave Index" [merged]
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKJ-TNBK : 14 July 2020), Joan De Vere De Warenne, 1293; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKJ-TNBK;
- Title: Joan DeVere in the Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=9289&h=25947249&indiv=try;
Note: Name: Joan DeVere
Gender: f (Female)
Birth Date: 1264
Birth Place: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Death Date: 21 Nov 1293
Death Place: Lewes, Sussex, England
Death Age: 29
Spouse: William DeWarenne
- Title: Joan de Vere (1264-1293), Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p124.htm#i3703 index to pedigrees [citations]
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p124.htm#i3703;
Note: Joan de Vere [1,2,3,4,5,6]
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #3703, b. circa 1264, d. 23 November 1293
Father Sir Robert de Vere, 5th Earl Oxford, Baron of Hedingham & Whitchurch, Master Chamberlain of England [2,7,4,8,6] b. c 1240, d. 25 Aug 1296
Mother Alice de Sanford [2,7,8,6] b. c 1230, d. 7 Sep 1312
Charts Pedigree of James Irvine
Joan de Vere was born circa 1264 at of Medmenham, Buckinghamshire, England. [2] She married Sir William de Warren, son of Sir John Warren, 7th Earl Warren and Surrey and Alice de Lusignan, in 1284; They had 1 son (Sir John, 8th Earl of Surrey) and 1 daughter (Alice, wife of Sir Edmund de Arundel, 9th Earl of Arundel). [2,3,9,4,5,6] Joan de Vere died on 23 November 1293; Buried before the High Altar at Lewes, Sussex. [2,6]
Family: Sir William de Warren b. 15 Jan 1256, d. 15 Dec 1286
Children:
Sir John de Warenne, 8th Earl of Surrey+ [2,6] b. 30 Jun 1286, d. 29 Jun 1347
Alice de Warren+[10,11,4,6] b. c 1287, d. bt 1330 - 23 May 1338
Citations:
1. [S505] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. I, p. 242; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 133; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 106.
2. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 751.
3. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 266.
4. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 602-603.
5. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 256.
6. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 312.
7. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 263-264.
8. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 253.
9. [S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 443.
10. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 317.
11. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 178.
Page: Relationships and 11 sources
- Title: Pedigree Charts in "The Genealogie or Pedegree" by Sir William Segar, Garter
Author: Book: Coles Of Devon, 1867 (25.html) by James Edwin-Cole Source 7:www Genealogy or pedegree of the .... Sir William Cole... written in 1630 by Segar, William, Sir, -1633
Publication: Name: http://ephotocaption.com/a/25/1391150.pdf;
Note: There are 33 pages of Charts of the Cole Family and the collateral lines drawn from the original Cole Pedigree dated 1585. This is copied from the original Roll, in the possession of the Right Honourable the Earl of Enniskillen.
This information was compiled by Sir William Segar, Garter in 1630, referencing the family of Thomas Cole who compiled the Escheats. William Segar, Garter was the Principall King of Armes. Wikipedia: Sir William Segar (c. 1554–1633) was a portrait painter and officer of arms to the court of Elizabeth I of England; he became Garter King of Arms under James I. He had the responsibility of granting coats of arms to noble families.
THE PEDIGREE AS IT RELATES TO THE BODRUGAN FAMILY CONTAINS ERRORS. Firstly, it incorrectly shows that Henry Bodrugan the son of Otto, and his wife Isabelle Whalesborough, had 3 sons: William, Otto & Nicholas. This is wrong. the 3 sons were in fact his brothers. Henry died, aged 20, leaving no issue, his next heir being his brother William. This is evident from Henry's IPM. Secondly, the pedigree conflates William the bastard son of Otto Bodrugan with William Bodrugan the son of Ralph Treneweth. This is an unreliable source in so far at it relates to the Bodrugan family.
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