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John Marmion 4th Baron Marmion of Winteringham
- Preferred Name: John Marmion 4th Baron Marmion of Winteringham[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Alternate Name: John Marmion II
- Gender: M
- Burial: AFT 30 APR 1335 in West Tanfield, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.2 LONG: E1.5667
- Alt. Birth: 1292 in Winteringham, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.6891 LONG: E0.5986
- Death: 30 APR 1335 with note: Description: Death
The year of Edward III's 'Great Invasion of Scotland' and the Battle of Boroughmuir.
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: 4th Baron Marmion
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Sir Knight
- Birth: 1292 in Tattershall, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.1169 LONG: E0.1891
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-John-de-Marmion-II/6000000000796849316?through=5332658254220046361
- Find A Grave: with note: Description: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106698965/john-marmion
- Fact: with note: Description: John's death was the same year as Edward III's 'Great Invasion of Scotland' and the Battle of Boroughmuir
- Occupation: Member of Parliament
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: 4th Baron Marmion
- Death: 30 APR 1335 in York, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.9589 LONG: E1.067
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Sir Knight
- FSID: MYBB-D6J
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Dugdale cites an ancient record, which states that Robert Lord Marmion, in the year 1166, held in Winteringham, twelve knights' fees by descent, and three by purchase. Our manuscript does not refer to this family for nearly a hundred years after the period last named; but it states that in 1264, Robert Lord Marmion, was owner of the whole manor of Winteringham, in Lincolnshire, which after his death, descended to his eldest son William, and after his death, to his son John, who, in the eleventh year of Edward the second, obtained a grant from the king, for a weekly market upon every Wednesday, at his manor of Winteringham; after whose decease, the town and manor came to the Lords Grey of Rotherfield, and after them to the Lords Fitz Hugh of Holderness. From various other sources we learn that this family were in possession of this property, several years prior to that mentioned in the manuscript. The grant above alluded to, was evidently not the first obtained by the Marmions, in favour of their estates at this place; for, according to the Charter Rolls in the Tower, the first Robert Marmion obtained a grant for Winteringham as early as the second year of the reign of King John, 1200. Again, in the Close Rolls, we find a writ in the second year of Henry the third, 1217, ordering the Sheriff of Lincoln, to deliver seizen of the manor of Winteringham, which had belonged to Robert Marmion the younger, and to Richard de Rivars. From the same source we also learn, that this Robert Marmion went to the wars for his father, in the year 1214; and subsequently, in 1219, had succeeded his father in holding the castle of Tamworth. It is almost needless to mention that the Marmions were hereditary champions to the kings of England, and it is affirmed by some that they acted in that capacity to the dukes of Normandy, even before the conquest of this country. ... We would observe that Robert, son to the one who came out of Normandy with William the first, died about the eighth [year] of the reign of King Stephen, and was succeeded by another Robert, his son, who was a justice itinerant in Warwickshire. He died in the year 1218, leaving, according to Dugdale, two sons by different wives, both of the name of Robert, and a younger son called William; Robert ... this younger Robert de Marmion held the lordship of Winteringham, with some others, by the special grant of his father; and it is to be observed, that the members of this branch of the family, though they do not appear to have ever inherited the championship, yet possessed the higher honour of being summoned to parliament amongst the peers of the realm. From an extinct Baronage of England, it appears that Lord Fitz Hugh married Elizabeth Marmion, the last of that race, and had issue by such marriage, no fewer than eight sons and five daughters.
-- “A History of Winterton and the surrounding villages” by W Andrew (1836)
Sir John Marmion
BIRTH 1292
Winteringham, North Lincolnshire Unitary Authority, Lincolnshire, England
DEATH 30 Apr 1335 (aged 42–43)
West Tanfield, Hambleton District, North Yorkshire, England
BURIAL
St. Nicholas' Churchyard
West Tanfield, Hambleton District, North Yorkshire, England
PLOT Inside Church
MEMORIAL ID 106698965 · View Source
MEMORIAL
PHOTOS 3
FLOWERS 28
John Marmion, Lord Marmion, son and heir of Sir John Marmion and Isabel Peck.
In October 1313 the name of John Marmyon the younger occurs among those of the adherents of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, who were pardoned for the death of Piers de Gavaston. As John Marmion le fiz he was summoned for military service against the Scots in 1314, and again, as John Marmion, in 1322 and 1323. In August 1322 he had protection for going with the Earl of Richmond to Scotland; and in October he was appointed a commissioner of array for the North Riding. In February 1324/5 he was summoned to pass into Guienne under the command of the Earl Warenne. He was summoned to Parliament 3 December 1326, by writ directed Johanni Marmyoun. In September 1327 he was named on a commission of oyer and terminer for Yorkshire; and in the same year, with Maud his wife, he made a settlement in special tail male of the manors of Tanfield and Carthorpe. In May 1329 he had a protection for three years on going on pilgrimage to the Holy Land. In October 1331 he complained that while he was under the King's protection certain persons broke his park at Tanfield, hunted there and carried away his deer. In July 1332 he was ordered to choose 20 archers for the King's expedition to Ireland.
He married Maud, who is said to have been a daughter of Thomas, Lord Furnivale.
Family Members
Parents
Photo
John Marmion
1257–1322
Spouse
Maude de Furnival de Marmion
Children
Photo
Avice Marmion De Grey
1302–1378
Joanne de Marmion Bernacke
1313 – unknown
Preferred Parents:
Father: John Marmion 3rd Baron Marmion of Winteringham, b. ABT 1249 in Tanfield, Yorkshire, England d. BEF 7 MAY 1322 in Wetherington, Lincolnshire, England
Mother: Isabel Peck, b. ABT 1264 in England d. 15 JAN 1337 in England
Family 1: Maud Furnival, b. 1295 in Tattershall, Lincolnshire, England d. 20 FEB 1361 in Tanfield, Lincolnshire, England
- Avice Marmion, b. 1309 in West Tanfield, Yorkshire, England d. 23 JAN 1387 in Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire, England
- Joan de Marmion, b. 1313 in West Tanfield, Yorkshire, England d. 2 OCT 1361 in Asby Folville, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England
Sources:
- Title: John Marmion (1255-1322) in Family Group Records Collection, Archives Section, 1942-1969; https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L97M-6BD5?cc=2060211&wc=WWF8-FJM%3A352088401%2C352687001
Author: "Family Group Records Collection, Archives Section, 1942-1969," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L97M-6BD5?cc=2060211&wc=WWF8-FJM%3A352088401%2C352687001 : 20 May 2014), M > Marks, Jobst (1673) - Marple, David (1775) > image 1237 of 1520; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, compiler, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L97M-6BD5;
Note: John Marmion son of William and Loretta de Chilham married Isabel and had a son John based on previous research
Page: Names, dates, locations, and relationships match previous research and temple work.
- Title: Find a Grave: Sir John Marmion
Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106698965;
Note: Sir John Marmion
BIRTH 1292
Winteringham, North Lincolnshire Unitary Authority, Lincolnshire, England
DEATH 30 Apr 1335 (aged 42–43)
West Tanfield, Hambleton District, North Yorkshire, England
BURIAL
St Nicholas Churchyard
West Tanfield, Hambleton District, North Yorkshire, England
PLOT Inside Church
MEMORIAL ID 106698965
John Marmion, Lord Marmion, son and heir of Sir John Marmion and Isabel Peck.
In October 1313 the name of John Marmyon the younger occurs among those of the adherents of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, who were pardoned for the death of Piers de Gavaston. As John Marmion le fiz he was summoned for military service against the Scots in 1314, and again, as John Marmion, in 1322 and 1323. In August 1322 he had protection for going with the Earl of Richmond to Scotland; and in October he was appointed a commissioner of array for the North Riding. In February 1324/5 he was summoned to pass into Guienne under the command of the Earl Warenne. He was summoned to Parliament 3 December 1326, by writ directed Johanni Marmyoun. In September 1327 he was named on a commission of oyer and terminer for Yorkshire; and in the same year, with Maud his wife, he made a settlement in special tail male of the manors of Tanfield and Carthorpe. In May 1329 he had a protection for three years on going on pilgrimage to the Holy Land. In October 1331 he complained that while he was under the King's protection certain persons broke his park at Tanfield, hunted there and carried away his deer. In July 1332 he was ordered to choose 20 archers for the King's expedition to Ireland.
He married Maud, who is said to have been a daughter of Thomas, Lord Furnivale.
Family Members
Parents
Photo
John Marmion
1257–1322
Spouse
Maude de Furnival de Marmion
Children
Avice Marmion De Grey
1302–1378
Joanne de Marmion Bernacke
1313 – unknown
Page: Ancestry
- Title: A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire Macartney-Musgrave
Author: page 356, gives detailed history of Marmion line etc...
Publication: Name: http://ancestry.com/interactive/48558/ExtinctPeerages-001048-255/?backlabel=ReturnBrowsing&dbid=48558&iid=ExtinctPeerages-001048-255&rc=937,1439,991,1457&pid=399593&ssrc=&fn=&ln=Grey&st=g#?imageId=ExtinctPeerages-001149-356;
- Title: John Marmion, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLG-NSH6 : 2 July 2020), John Marmion, 1335; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLG-NSH6;
Page: Ancestry
- Title: Wikiwand: Baron Marmion
Author: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Publication: Name: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Baron_Marmion;
Note: There have been four different baronies held by the Marmion family, two feudal baronies, one purported barony created by Simon de Montfort and one barony by writ.
Feudal barony of Tamworth
The first feudal barony was obtained by Roger Marmion (d. circa 1129) who held lands in Lindsay in 1115-18, lord of the manor of Fontenay and castellan of Falaise Castle, Normandy, when between 1110 and 1114 he was granted the feudal barony of Tamworth, the caput of which was Tamworth Castle, after the exile of Roger d'Abetot, nephew and heir of the King's steward, Robert Despenser. The eldest son of the 3rd Marmion feudal baron of Tamworth acquired the manor of Winteringham in North Lincolnshire.
Welsh feudal barony of Llanstephan
A second barony was obtained by Roger Marmion, lord of the manor of Fontenay-le-Marmion during the Norman invasion of Wales when he was rewarded with the Barony of Llanstephan, whose caput at Llansteffan Castle played a central role in the Welsh wars.
Barony of Torrington, purported barony by writ (1264)
The third barony was a barony by writ of summons for William Marmion (as "Baron of Torrington") to Simon de Montfort's Parliament in 1264, but the summons was not continued after the rebels' defeat at the Battle of Evesham in 1265. Under modern law, this summons did not create a peerage.
Barony of Winteringham, barony by writ
Created for John Marmion (d.1322).
Ancestry
According to Cokayne "the earliest known occurrence of the Marmion name seems to be that of a William Marmion who exchanged 12 acres of land with Ralf Taisson, son of Ralf the Angevin, which were granted by the latter to the abbey of Fontenay before Oct 1049 and who acted as a witness to a confirmation charter by William Duke of Normandy in 1060. Due to similarities between the coats of arms of the Taisson and Marmion families there is some speculation that they were related.
King's Champion
Legend has it that the Marmions were Champions of Normandy before moving to England during the Anarchy. Robert Marmion's defence of King Stephen's castle at Falaise (birthplace of William the Conqueror and former seat of the Dukes of Normandy) in 1140 against Geoffrey of Anjou, is possibly an indication that the title originally had more than symbolic meaning. In addition, as Normandy was still the homeland of the Kings of England at this time, it makes sense that, if one existed, the King's Champion would be known as "Champion of Normandy and England."
Philip Marmion (d.1291) used the "3 Swords" badge, later used by the Dymokes to denote being hereditary Champions of England, as a seal as early as 1265, and in 1328 Tamworth Castle was held by the service of "appearing armed in the Royal Arms and mounted on the King's best charger to make proof for the king against any who opposed his coronation."]
The duty passed to the Dymokes through Philip's granddaughter Margaret Ludlow, due to his having no legitimate male heirs.
Baron Marmion of Tamworth (c.1110-14)
By Tenure (feudal barony)
Robert Marmion (died 1144)
Robert Marmion, 2nd Baron Marmion of Tamworth (d.bef Oct 1181), son and heir. Lord of Fontenay. Married Elizabeth(?) (de Rethel?[disputed – discuss])
Robert Marmion, 3rd Baron Marmion of Tamworth (d.bef 15 May 1218), son and heir. Chief Judiciary of England. Sheriff of Worcestershire. Rebel in the First Barons' War.
Robert Marmion, 4th Baron Marmion of Tamworth (aka Robert Marmion the Elder) (d.1241), son and heir of Robert Marmion, 3rd Baron Marmion of Tamworth and his 1st wife. Rebel in the First Barons' War. Married Juliana daughter of Philip de Vassy, Baron of Vassy, Lord Forest Auvray
Philip Marmion, 5th Baron Marmion of Tamworth (d.1291), son and heir. Sheriff of Warwickshire & Leicestershire. Royalist in the Second Barons' War. Died without legitimate male heirs so his office of Kings Champion of England and Manor of Scrivelsby passed to Dymoke descendants of his daughter Margery.
Baron Marmion of Llanstephan (c.1114)
By tenure (feudal barony)
Roger Marmion, Lord of Fontenay (d.abt.1129). Awarded Llanstephan c.1114.
Robert Marmion, 1st Baron Marmion of Tamworth (d. 1143), eldest son of Roger Marmion, Lord of Fontenay.
Robert Marmion, 2nd Baron Marmion of Tamworth (d. 1185)
Geoffrey Marmion, youngest son of Roger Marmion, Lord of Fontenay. Granted Llanstephan by his nephew, Robert Marmion, 2nd Baron Marmion of Tamworth, in 1166. Benefactor of the Knights Templar.
Albreda, sole daughter and heir of Geoffrey Marmion, married William, son of the crusader Richard de Camville, and so the barony passed into the de Camville family.
Baron Marmion of Winteringham
By tenure
Robert Marmion, 1st Baron Marmion of Winteringham (d.bef 1242) (aka Robert Marmion the Younger), son of Robert Marmion, 3rd Baron Marmion of Tamworth and his 2nd wife. Rebel in the First Barons' War. Married Avice (Inq PM 1282) daughter of Jernegan Fitz-Hugh of Tanfield.
William Marmion, 2nd Baron Marmion of Winteringham (d.27 Jul 1274[7]), son and heir. Rebel in the Second Barons' War. Married firstly Lorette, daughter of Richard FitzRoy, illegitimate son of King John of England and secondly to Sibilla relict of Robert de Mar(e)s of Mears Ashby.
By writ
John Marmion, 3rd Baron Marmion of Winteringham (d.1322 Battle of Boroughbridge?), son and heir. Married Isabel.
John Marmion, 4th Baron Marmion of Winteringham (d.1335), son and heir. Married Maud, daughter of Thomas, 1st Lord Furnival
Robert Marmion, 5th Baron Marmion of Winteringham (d.abt.1360), son and heir, died without issue whereupon the Barony fell into abeyance between his sisters, Joan, Lady Bernack and Avice, Lady Grey. Avice's moiety, or half share, of the Barony passed to her Fitz-Hugh descendants.
Baron Marmion of Torrington (1264)
Purported barony by writ
William Marmion. Son of Robert Marmion, 3rd Baron Marmion of Tamworth. Priest (and Dean of Tamworth?). Summoned to Parliament as a Baron after the Battle of Lewes but after the rebels' defeat at Evesham was never recalled.
- Title: Wikiwand: John Marmion, 4th Baron Marmion of Winteringham
Author: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Note: Sir John Marmion, Baron Marmion of Winteringham was an Anglo-Norman baron who represented Lincolnshire in Parliament and fought in the Wars of Scottish Independence.
Ancestry
He was the son and heir of Sir John Marmion, 3rd Baron Marmion of Winteringham & Isabella and was born c.1292.
Career and life
John was an adherent of the king's cousin and rival Thomas, 2nd Earl of Lancaster and on 16 October 1313 was pardoned for his role in the death of Piers Gaveston. He again found himself in trouble in 1314 when an arrest warrant was issued for both John and his father who lead a group of dozens of men on a raid upon the Abbot of Fountains Abbey's land at Aldeburgh and Balderby, Yorkshire. Timber, two hundred sheep, fifty oxen and four carts were stolen and the Abbot's servants suffered kidnapping, beatings, cuts and had their beards plucked out. The Abbot and his monks may not have been entirely innocent having themselves been accused of violent assault in 1307 and of stealing deer in 1316.
In May 1314 John was summoned to serve in Sir Henry Tyes' company at the Battle of Bannockburn. Following the disastrous defeat Robert the Bruce and his armies swept so and John was again summoned to defend the north against the rampant Scots at Berwick-upon-Tweed on 30 June 1314.
He joined John de Mowbray's company in Aymer de Valence's attempt to re-capture Berwick in August 1319 which led to the Battle of Myton and a two-year truce.
His father died at or shortly after the Battle of Boroughbridge in 1322 whereupon John Jnr took over his father's lands. This was at a time when the Fens were gradually becoming flooded and at least one of John's meadows at Cherry Willingham sank under water.
Robert the Bruce used Boroughbridge as an opportunity to invade eighty miles into the north-west of England plundering and burning towns such as Lancaster and Preston as he went. In the last half of 1322 John was summoned to help repel Bruce and drive him back into Scotland where he operated a scorched earth policy to deprive the English of food. Hunger and dysentery forced King Edward to withdraw his forces back to York. Marmion was stationed there in May 1323 when a thirteen-year truce was agreed between King Edward and Bruce.
John was summoned to a Great Council at Westminster in May 1324 as a Knight of Gloucestershire, Yorkshire and Lindsey, Lincolnshire.
He accompanied John de Warenne, 7th Earl of Surrey and Queen Isabella in their negotiations with King Charles IV of France in Gascony in March 1325. Rather than returning to England Isabella stayed in France where she embarked upon an affair with Roger Mortimer, 1st Earl of March and formed a plot to oust her husband, Edward II, from the throne. The plot was successful and Isabella called a Parliament in January 1327, which was attended by John Marmion,[4] and which ratified Isabella's eldest son Edward III as the new king.
In April 1327 John was sued by William de Paris (a former MP for Lincs) for the wardship of William, the underage son and heir of the late Leicestershire MP and knight Sir William Marmion (a leading candidate to be the Knight of Norham Castle fame) and his land at Keisby, Lincs.
When the Queen and Roger Mortimer gathered a vast army at York in July 1327 John joined them. The campaign saw little fighting and after the Battle of Stanhope Park the English army returned to York and disbanded.
On 25 May 1329 John was granted protection for three years to go on pilgrimage to the Holy Land. Deer were stolen from his park at Tanfield in his absence and an arrest warrant to catch the thieves was issued on 11 October 1331.
He was appointed to arrest all disturbers of the peace in Sussex on 21 March 1332, shortly before the start of the Second War of Scottish Independence.
Sir John died in 1335,[2] the year of Edward III's 'Great Invasion of Scotland' and the Battle of Boroughmuir.
Family and descendants
John first married Elizabeth before then marrying Maud daughter of Thomas, 1st Lord Furnival and had the following children:
Robert Marmion (d.s.p. 1360) Of infirm condition and never summoned to Parliament.
Joan Marmion (d.1362, m1. John Bernack m2. John Folville. son of John de Folville (1286-1329) and Mabel de la Mare of Ashby Mears, Northamptonshire.
Avice Marmion, 2nd wife of John de Grey, K.G. of Rotherfield. Issue John and Robert adopted the Marmion name and their Fitz-Hugh descendants became the eventual heirs of the lands at Winteringham, Tanfield, etc.
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