Ida de Odingsells

• Preferred Name: Ida de Odingsells^{[1] [2] [3] [4]}
  
• Alternate Name: De Herdeburgh
  
• Gender: F
  
• Death: 1 MAY 1321 in Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England at LATI: N2.4808 LONG: E1.6542 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Christening: in Amington, Warwickshire, England at LATI: N2.3378 LONG: E1.5609
  
• FSID: KHF3-K1Y
  
• Birth: ABT 1265 in Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England at LATI: N2.4808 LONG: E1.6542 with note: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/FitzWalter-13
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Ida Oddingsells, Prioress of Wroxall
  eldest d/o & co-heiress of
  William Oddingsells & Ela FitzWalter
  b- 1265 - Solihull, Warwickshire, England
  m- 1- Roger Herdeburgh d- by 9 Feb 1284
  m-2- after 29 Sep 1286 - John Clinton d- 1315
  d- before 1238 - as Prioress of Wroxall
  
  1285 - Isabel, widow of Hugh Herdeburgh, -empleaded IDA, widow of ROGER & the gaurdian of their daughters , for her dower in Billingford & rent in Great Harrow, Warwickshire
  
  1295 - co-heiress of brother Edmund - Maxstoke & Budbrooke, Warwickshire & Pirton, Hertfordshire (moiety)- Newton, Suffolk - Solihul , Warwickshire - Billingford, Norfolk & Oxburgh, Norfolk -
  Overhall, Suffolk
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.37, 39, 40;
  
  === da, daughter of Sir William de Odingsell ===
  da, daughter of Sir William de Odingsells of Maxstoke by Ela, daughter of Walter Fitz Robert. She was 1st daughter, b. c 1270, living 1321. [Ancestral Roots]
  
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  He [John Clinton] married, probably about 1290, Ida, sister and coheir of Edmund d'ODINGSELLS, 1st daughter of William d'ODINGSELLS, of Maxstoke, by Ela, daughter of Walter FITZ ROBERT, of Woodham Walter, with whom he acquired the Lordship and Castle of Maxstoke and other considerable possessions. He died late in 1310. His widow accompanied the Queen Consort to France in 1312-13. She, who was born about 1270, was living 1 March 1321/2. [Complete Peerage III:312-13, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  
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  Douglas Richardson in a post to SGM, 27 Sep 2001, adds a first husband for Ida:
  
  From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@msn.com)
  Subject: Ida de Odingsells's Herdeburgh and Clinton Marriages: Further Evidence
  Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
  Date: 2001-09-27 08:31:32 PST
  
  Dear Newsgroup:
  
  Two days ago I announced the discovery that Ida de Odingsells, a descendant of King Henry II, married (lst) Roger de Herdeburgh (died c. 1284), by whom she had a daughter, Ela de Herdeburgh, who left many descendants. Previously Ida was only known to have had a marriage about 1290 to John de Clinton, 1st Lord Clinton (died c. 1310). Following my post, Rosie Bevan kindly provided a citation which confirmed that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was in fact named Ida.
  
  Since my first post, I've located an informative article on the Herdeburgh family which appeared in Norfolk Archaeology, 30 (1952): 19-25. That article cites two documents, one dated 1284, the other 1286, which establish beyond doubt that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was named Ida and that Ida, as Roger's widow, held the manor of Prilleston, Norfolk (a Herdeburgh manor) following his death. The article further states that Prilleston was eventually conveyed by Ida de Herdeburgh's heirs to her grandson, Walter de Hopton, Knt. This confirms that that Prilleston stayed in the family past Ida's death about 1328.
  
  As for other evidence that widow Ida de Herdeburgh married John de Clinton, I found elsewhere that Prilleston, Norfolk was held in 1316 by "Idonia de Clynton" [Reference: Feudal Aids, 6 (1920): 478]. Idonia de Clynton can be none other than Ida de Clinton, then a widow for the second time.
  
  Best always,
  Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
  
  === !Brown book 5, P C 173B. ===
  !Brown book 5, P C 173B.
  
  === !SOURCES: Magna Charta; Vol. 8 pg. 2767 ===
  !SOURCES: Magna Charta; Vol. 8 pg. 2767
  
  === !MARRIAGE-BIRTH: Magna Charta Part VII; ===
  !MARRIAGE-BIRTH: Magna Charta Part VII; by John S. Wurts; 1954;Brookfield Publishing Co.; PO Box 4933, Philadelphia, Pa.; pg 2044
  
  === !MARRIAGE-BIRTH: Magna Charta Part VII; ===
  !MARRIAGE-BIRTH: Magna Charta Part VII; by John S. Wurts; 1954; Brookfield Publishing Co.; PO Box 4933, Philadelphia, Pa.; pg 2044
  
  === This individual has the following other ===
  This individual has the following other parents in the Ancestral File: William /ODINGSELLS/ (AFN:8XF8-DP) and Ela /FITZ-WALTER/ (AFN:9PD6-V9) This individual has the following other parents in the Ancestral File: William /ODINGSELLS/ (AFN:8XF8-DP) and Ela /FITZ-WALTER/ (AFN:9PD6-V9) This individual has the following other parents in the Ancestral File: William /ODINGSELLS/ (AFN:8XF8-DP) and Ela /FITZ-WALTER/ (AFN:9PD6-V9) This individual has the following other parents in the Ancestral File: William /ODINGSELLS/ (AFN:8XF8-DP) and Ela /FITZ-WALTER/ (AFN:9PD6-V9)
  
  === M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P. 40 ===
  M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P. 40
  
  === !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Editio ===
  !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition line 86-32
  
  === Eldest daughter of Sir William de Odings ===
  Eldest daughter of Sir William de Odingsells; heir of her brotherEdmund who d c1295; brought Maxtock to the Clintons. 1
  
  === {{Magna Carta}}
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  {{Magna Carta}}
  ''{{#profile:Prefix}} {{#profile:RealName}} {{#profile:LastNameAtBirth}}'' is a descendant of ''[[FitzWalter-101|Robert FitzWalter]]''
  
  [[Category: FitzWalter-101 Descendants]]
  ==Biography=='''Father''' [[Odingsells-21 | Sir William de Odingsells]], Justiciar of Ireland,Douglas Richardson, ''Plantagenet Ancestry'', p. 218-9.Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry'', 2nd Edition, [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=PA513 Vol. I, p. 513-4].
  Douglas Richardson, ''Royal Ancestry'', Vol. II, p. 259-60.Douglas Richardson, ''Plantagenet Ancestry'', p. 553.Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry'', 2nd Edition, [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA2-PA268 Vol. III, p. 268-9].Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry'', 2nd Edition, [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA2-PA330 Vol. III, p. 330-1].Douglas Richardson, ''Royal Ancestry'', Vol. III, p. 257-8.Douglas Richardson, ''Royal Ancestry'', Vol. IV, p. 271-2. b. c 1235, d. 19 Apr 1295
  
  '''Mother''' [[FitzWalter-13 | Ela FitzWalter]], b. c 1236, d. a 7 Jan 1311
  Ida de Odingsells was born circa 1265 at Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England.
  She married [[Herdeburgh-4 | Sir Roger de Herdeburgh]], son of Sir Hugh de Herdeburgh and Isabel de Turville, before 1282.
  
  They had 2 daughters:*[[Herdeburgh-1 | Ela]], wife of Sir Walter de Hopton, & of William leBoteler
  *Isabel, wife of John de Hulles
  Ida de Odingsells married [[Clinton-226 | Sir John de Clinton]], BaronClinton, Constable of Wallingford Castle, Seneschal of Ponthieu, son of Thomas de Clinton and Maud de Bracebridge, after 29 September 1286.
  
  They had 3 sons
  *[[Clinton-218 | Sir John]], 2nd Lord Clinton
  *[[Clinton-211 | Sir William]], Earl of Huntingdon, Lord Clinton
  *Thomas
  and 2 daughters
  *Joan, wife of Edmund Deincourt*probably Elizabeth, wife of Sir Ebles de Mounts, Constable of Stirling Castle, Sheriff & Constable of Edinburgh Castle).
  
  Ida de Odingsells died in 1325 as Prioress of Wroxall.
  
  '''Family 1'''
  
  Sir Roger de Herdeburgh b. c 1260, d. bef 9 Feb 1284.
  
  '''Child '''
  
  : Ela de Herdeburgh,Douglas Richardson, ''Plantagenet Ancestry'', p. 108.Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry'', 2ndEdition, [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=PA205 Vol. I, p. 205].Douglas Richardson, ''Royal Ancestry'', Vol. I, p. 370. b. c 1282, d. aft 5 Jul 1343.
  
  '''Family 2'''
  Sir John de Clinton, Baron Clinton, Constable of Wallingford Castle, Seneschal of Ponthieu, b. c 1258, d. c 7 Jan 1311.
  
  '''Children '''
  : Sir John de Clinton, 2nd Baron Clinton, Justice of the Peace for Warwickshire, b. c 1300, d. c 1 Apr 1335.
  : Sir William Clinton, b. c 1304, d. 25 Aug 1354.
  
  ==Sources==
  
  
  See also:
  
  *The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. III, p. 313
  
  *The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants, by Gary Boyd Roberts, p. 356
  
  *Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1844.
  *[http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p374.htm#i11230 Marlyn Lewis].
  *Douglas Richardson, ''[http://www.royalancestry.net/ Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families],'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G.Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol 1, pp 258-261. BOOTH
  
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  === !BIRTH: Date: ca. 1270 - Doc. Line 86-32 ===
  !BIRTH: Date: ca. 1270 - Doc. Line 86-32 !DEATH: Date: After 1321 (living then) - Doc. Line 86-32 !MARRIAGE: Ida de Odingsells and John de Clinton, Lord - Doc. Line 86-32 Date: ca. 1290 - Doc. Line 86-32
  
  === Ancestral File Number: GS4S-G8 ===
  Ancestral File Number: GS4S-G8

1. Maud Pantulf Heiress of Wemme, b. 1276 in Prilleston, Norfolk, England     d. AFT 5 JUL 1343 in Shropshire, England

• m. 1290 in Pirton, Hertfordshire, England

1. John de Clinton 2nd Lord Clinton, b. ABT 1300 in Coleshill Manor, Coleshill, Warwickshire, England     d. BEF 1 APR 1335 in Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England
2. William DeClinton, b. 1304 in Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England     d. 25 AUG 1354 in Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England

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