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John Comyn Lord of Badenoch
- Preferred Name: John Comyn Lord of Badenoch[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Alternate Name: John Comyn Lord of Badenoch
- Gender: M
- Burial: 1275 in Scotland
- Nickname:
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: with note: Description: Lord of Lochaber
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Knight with note: The form 'Sir' is first documented in English in 1297, as title of honour of a knight
- Sir+John+l+"the+Red"+Comyn,+Earl+of+Badenoch,+Justiciar+of+Galloway: with note: Sir John l "the Red" Comyn, Earl of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway
Birthdate: circa 1223
Death: circa 1278 (46-63)
Immediate Family:
Son of Richard Comyn, Lord of Badenoch
Husband of Eve N.N. and Alicia de Lindsay
Father of Sir John "The Black" Comyn II , Lord of Badenoch; NN de Comyn; Sir Robert Comyn, Kt.; William Comyn, of Kirkintilloch; NN Comyn and 4 others
Brother of William Comyn and Richard Comyn
Occupation: Justiciar, Lord Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway
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- Occupation: Jusiciar of Galloway1258
- Death: 1275 in Scotland
- FSID: LZ8J-9CK
- Birth: 1215 in Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland at LATI: N7.537 LONG: E1.9959
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
John Comyn (Cumyn) (c. 1215 - c. 1275) was Lord of Badenoch in Scotland. He was Justiciar of Galloway in 1258. He held lands in Nithsdale (Dalswinton, a Comyn stronghold, and Duncow) and Tynedale.
Life
The Comyn family were in effective power in Scotland from 1249 to 1255, when Alexander III of Scotland was a minor; John was one of those with court influence. The Comyns were ousted by Alan Durward, but returned to power in 1257-8, before provoking a strong English reaction.
He fought for Henry III of England at the Battle of Lewes (1265), with John Baliol the elder and Robert Bruce the elder, and was captured. In 1267 he was given licence to crenellate Tarset Castle in Tynedale (by present-day Lanehead, near Hexham), by Henry III; Tarset had previously been held by Walter Comyn.
He started the construction of Blair Castle with a tower built in 1269. The place was soon taken back by David, Earl of Atholl.
John was the son of a Richard Comyn and was the grandson (through Richard) of William Comyn, jure uxoris Earl of Buchan.
In 1275, John was one of the leaders of a Scottish expedition that crushed a Manx revolt against the Scottish Crown.
According to the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica he died in 1274, and was nephew of Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan, Constable of Scotland, and of Walter Comyn, Earl of Mentieth. His date of death is also given as 1277.
He succeeded his uncle Walter, in 1258, as Lord of Badenoch, and was succeeded by his son John II, the "Black Comyn". John I was known as the "Red Comyn", the nickname more commonly applied to his grandson.
Family
His first wife was called Eva, and appears to have been the mother of at least his oldest children.
His second wife was named Alice and referred to in one document after his death as Lady Alice de Roos (Ros). Alice was the daughter of William de Roos of Helmsley and Lucy FitzPiers.
He is known to have had the following issue:
1.) John of Badenoch (died 1303), succeeded his father, married Eleanor de Balliol, daughter of John de Balliol and Dervorguilla of Galloway; had issue.
2.) William of Kirkintilloch (died 1291), married Isabella Russell, daughter of John Russell and Isabella, Countess of Menteith; without issue.
3.) Alexander Comyn of Dunphail (died 1330), married Eva, widow of Alexander Murray, had issue.
4.) Robert Comyn (died 1306), married Margaret Comyn, daughter of William Comyn of Lochaber; had issue.
5.) John Comyn of Ulceby; had issue.
6.) a daughter who married Alexander of Argyll; had issue.
7.) a daughter who married Sir William Galbraith, 4th of that Ilk; had issue.
8.) a daughter who married firstly Richard Siward and secondly Geoffrey de Mowbray; had issue.
9.) a daughter who married Sir Andrew Moray; had issue.
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#JohnComyndied1302MAlianoreBalliolA as of 7/20/2016
JOHN Comyn "the Red" (-1277). The proofs relating to the claim to the Scottish t
=== !www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/6025 ===
!www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/6025/charlemagne2.htm - for mg - "the Black" - co-Regent of Scotland with his father-in-law, John de Baliol during minority of Alexander III, King of Scots.
=== AFN: Information received from the book ===
AFN: Information received from the book "Robert the Bruce's Rivals: The Comyns, 1212-1314". One of four daughters was named Alice.
=== Source: A. Roots. Alive in 1242. ===
Source: A. Roots. Alive in 1242.
=== Weis AR: seen 1243 died aft 1273, called ===
Weis AR: seen 1243 died aft 1273, called the Red Comyn #1
=== !#21-v2-p374fn(c)*; !living 1305/6; !ABE ===
!#21-v2-p374fn(c)*; !living 1305/6; !ABEYANCE: g father of the "Red Comyn";
=== !Weis "60 Colonists", line 121A-28. SIR ===
!Weis "60 Colonists", line 121A-28. SIR JOHN COMYN, "The Red Comyn #1), seen 1242, d. aft 1273; by wife Alicia sho survived him, had Sir John Comyn "The Black Comyn".
=== !AKA: Sir John "the Red Comyn #1" Comyn ===
!AKA: Sir John "the Red Comyn #1" Comyn - Doc. Line 121A-28 !BIRTH: Before 1242 (seen in 1242) - Doc. Line 121A-28 !DEATH: Date: After 1273 - Doc. Line 121A-28 !MARRIAGE: Sir John "the Red Comyn #1, Comyn and Amabilia (or Alicia) Doc. Line 121A-28
=== Took a prominent part in the government ===
Took a prominent part in the government of the regency between 1249 and 1255. Joined the confederation of Llewelyn of Wales against Bruce and John Baliol. Led a band of Scots to help Henry III against rebel barons. In 1264 was captured at Lewes and confined in Gaol in London. The triumph of Henry in 1265 brought him signal benefits, grants of lands for his laudable services, limited rights of hunting on the King's forests and of free warren over his Lincolnshire estates to which was added leave to crenellate his new manor house.
=== !#21-v1-p146,-v2-p374fn(c); ===
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=== His grandson was also nicknamed The Red. ===
His grandson was also nicknamed The Red. He had great wealth and influence. He was a nephew of King Alexanderthrough his grandmother. When his uncle Walter died, he became the Lordof Badenoch. He was appointed to be Justiciar of Gallway in 1258. In histime, there were 32 knights in the Comyns Clan, making it the mightiestin all of Scotland. In 1240, John the Red was an ambassador from Alexander II to Louis IX, ofFrance.
=== On death of Uncle Walter in 1258 became ===
On death of Uncle Walter in 1258 became Lord of Badenoch and was made Justiciar of Galloway, Scotland. In 1264 he was captured at Lewes and imprisoned in London. Sir John Comyn born 1233 England was baptised 8 Aug 1995 Sgeor, Endowed l0 Oct 1995 Sgeor.
=== John Comyn (d 1274), justiciar of Gallow ===
John Comyn (d 1274), justiciar of Galloway, was the son of Richard Comyn and hephew of the powerful Walter Comyn, earl of Menteith, and the hardly less important Alexander Comyn, earl of Buchan. In 1248 he is mentioned as present at the courts of Alexander II at Berwick and Stirling. He also attested several Melrose charters during the latter part of the same reign. In 1250 he granted to the monks of Melrose the right of passage through his lands of Dalswinton and Duncol in Nithsdale. In this valley and in Tyndale his property chiefly lay; so that he was a powerful man on both sides of the border. In Scotland he fully shared in the posperity of his house during the early years of the reign of Alexander III. In close association with his two uncles, he took a prominent part in the government of the regency between 1249 and 1255, and fell like them in the latter year, when the personal intervention of Henry III transferred power to a new regency, better affected towards the English sovereign. Next year the jury of Corbridge presented him for levying new tolls on King Henry's men on his Northumberland estates. In 1257 he shared with his uncles in the capture of the young king at Kinrose, which resulted in their return to power. In 1258 he appears, with the new title of justice of Galloway, as joining in the confederation of the Scottish nobles with Llewelyn of Wales against Henry III. But on peace being restored between Henry and the Comyns he became in 1260 one of those to whom Henry swore that he would not necessarily detain his daughter, the Queen of Scots, about to visit his court for confinement. In August of the same year he received license from Henry to go through England to Canterbury and thence beyond sea. In January 1262 he again received a safe-conduct from the English king, and during his stay at Henry's court obtained a confirmation of King David's grants to his great-grandfather of his Tyndale estates; a grant of 50l for expenses during his residence at court; and license to hunt in the royal forests during his return home. So completely was his former policy reversed that in 1268 he, along with John Baliol and Robert Bruce, led a band of Scottish troops to help Henry against the revolted barons. He was present at the capture of Northampton by Henry, and in 1264 was captured at Lewes and confined in gaol in London. The triumph of Henry in 1265 brought him signal benefits, grants of lands for his laudable services, limited rights of hunting in the king's forests, and of free warren over his Lincolnshire estates, to which was added leave to crenellate his new manor house at Tyrsete in Northumberland. In 1268 some of his retainers were slain by citizens of York, and his favour with Henry and Alexander procured a successful termination of the feud thence arising. The city agreed to pay him 300l compenstation, and to perpetually maintain two priests to pray for the souls of the slaughtered servants upon the bridge over the Ouse, where the affray had occurred. The end of his life was not eventfull. He died in 1274.
Comyn is described by Fordun as 'a man prone to robbery and rashness.' Wyntoun, who calles him 'Red John Comyn,' speaks of him as 'a knycht of gret renown.' He was twice married, and left a large family, who after his death could not settle his heritage without dispute. William, his eldest son, who died early, engaged in an ineffectual struggle to obtain the earldom of Menteith. Of the two sons named John, the elder became lord of Badenoch and claimant to the Scottish throne. Alexander and Robert, the two youngest, were both taken prisoners at Dunbar, while Robert was slain with the Red Comyn at Dumfries. His four daughters all married into noble houses. [Dictionary of National Biography IV:914-915]
=== Earl of Angus by right of his wife . ===
Earl of Angus by right of his wife .
=== !Brown book #5. Chart 568. 2nd Lord Bade ===
!Brown book #5. Chart 568. 2nd Lord Bademach in 1274.
=== ANCESTRAL ROOTS, by F. L. Weis, 7th Ed., ===
ANCESTRAL ROOTS, by F. L. Weis, 7th Ed., Line 121A #28, pg. 108: Sir John Comyn, "The Red Comyn #1, seen 1242, d. aft 1273; m. Amabilia (or Alicia), liv. 1280. (SP I 507; Rev. C. Moor, KNIGHTS OF EDWARD I l:231).
=== Weis. 121A-28. Sir John Comyn, "The Re ===
Weis. 121A-28. Sir John Comyn, "The Red Comyn #1), was living in 1242.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Richard Comyn, b. 1194 in Altyre, Morayshire, Scotland, United Kingdom d. JUL 1249 in Badenoch, Inverness-shire, Scotland
Mother: Eve Amabilia Galloway, b. 1193 in Scotland, United Kingdom d. 1280 in Scotland, United Kingdom
Family 1: Marion de Galloway, b. 1224 in Scotland d. AFT 1270 in Scotland
- Julienne Comyn, b. ABT 1230 in Scotland d. BEF 1330 in Scotland
Family 2: Eve Stewart of Lennox, b. 1224 in Scotland, United Kingdom d. 1260 in Scotland, United Kingdom
- John Comyn II, b. 1242 in Badenoch, Inverness-shire, Scotland d. BEF 26 MAY 1302 in Lochindorb Castle, Grantown-On-Spey, Inverness-shire, Scotland
- Julienne Comyn, b. ABT 1230 in Scotland d. BEF 1330 in Scotland
Family 3: Alice Ros, b. AFT 1234 in England d. ABT 29 APR 1286 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
- John Comyn, b. ABT 1270 in Badenoch, Inverness-shire, Scotland d. 1332 in Lincolnshire, England
Family 4: Joan De Valence, b. 1219 in Altyre, Morayshire, Scotland, United Kingdom d. in Altyre, Morayshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
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John Comyn (Cumyn) (c. 1215 – c. 1275) was Lord of Badenoch in Scotland. He was justiciar of Galloway in 1258.[1][2] He held lands in Nithsdale[3] (Dalswinton, a Comyn stronghold,[4][5] and Duncow[6]) and Tynedale.[3]
John ComynDiedc.1274Noble familyClan ComynFatherRichard Comyn
LifeEdit
The Comyn family were in effective power in Scotland from 1249 to 1255, when Alexander III of Scotland was a minor; John was one of those with court influence.[3] The Comyns were ousted, by Alan Durward, but returned to power in 1257-8, before provoking a strong English reaction.[3][7]
He fought for Henry III of England at the Battle of Lewes (1265), with John Baliol the elderand Robert Bruce the elder,[8] and was captured.[9] In 1267 he was given licence to crenellate Tarset Castle in Tynedale (by present-day Lanehead, near Hexham), by Henry III;[10] Tarset had previously been held by Walter Comyn.[11]
He started the construction of Blair Castlewith a tower built in 1269.[12] The place was soon taken back by David, Earl of Atholl.[13]
John was the son of a Richard Comyn and was the grandson (through Richard) of William Comyn, jure uxoris Earl of Buchan.
According to the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica he died in 1274, and was nephew of Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan, Constable of Scotland, and of Walter Comyn, Earl of Mentieth.[14] His date of death is also given as 1277.[15]
He succeeded his uncle Walter, in 1258, as Lord of Badenoch, and was succeeded by his son John II, the "Black Comyn". John I was known as the "Red Comyn", the nickname more commonly applied to his grandson.[16]
FamilyEdit
His first wife was called Eva, and appears to have been the mother of at least his oldest children.[17]
His second wife was named Alice and referred to in one document after his death as Lady Alice de Roos (Ros).[18] Scots Peerage has however suggested she might be a de Lindsay of Lamberton, because she and her husband possessed Ulesby, and also because John Comyn was once guardian to a related Lindsay.[15][19]
He is known to have had the following issue:
William of Kirkintilloch (d.1291), married Isabella Russell, daughter of John Russell and Isabella, Countess of Menteith; without issue.John of Badenoch (d.1303), succeeded his father, married Eleanor de Balliol, daughter of John de Balliol and Dervorguilla of Galloway; had issue.Alexander, married Eva, widow of Alexander Murray.Robert, married Margaret Comyn, daughter of William Comyn of Lochaber; had issue.John Comyn of Ulceby; had issue.a daughter who married Alexander of Argyll; had issue. [15]a daughter who married Sir William Galbraith, 4th Chief of that Ilk, Lord of Kyncaith; had issue.[20]a daughter who married firstly Richard Siward and secondly Galfrid de Mowbray; had issue.[21]a daughter who married Sir Andrew Moray; had issue.[22]
NotesEdit
^ G. W. S. Barrow, The Kingdom of the Scots: Government, Church and Society from the Eleventh to the Fourteenth Century (2003), p. 86.^ Michael Brown, The Wars of Scotland(2004), p. 53.^ a b c d Tout 1887.^ Overview of Dalswinton^http://lmid1.rcahms.gov.uk/pls/portal/newcanmore.details_gis?inumlink=65896[permanent dead link]^ Historical perspective for Nithsdale^ Michael Prestwich, Plantagenet England 1225-1360 (2005), p. 230.^ Battle of Lewes, May 14, 1264^ Battlefield Report (PDF), p. 5.^ Tarset Castle Licence to CrenellateArchived 2008-12-01 at the Wayback Machine.^ Tarset Castle Archived 2007-10-22 at the Wayback Machine.^ "Blair Castle". Canmore. Historic Environment Scotland.^ A Guide To Blair Castle, Perth and Kinross, From TourUK^ Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Comyn, John". Encyclopædia Britannica. 6 (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. p. 822.^ a b c Cawley, Charles, Scottish Nobility, Medieval Lands database, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy,[self-published source][better source needed]^ Clan Comyn^ Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013) Vol.II p.207.^ Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (2005), p. 210; gives his death as in 1273-8. Also see newer work Royal Ancestry (2013) Vol.II p.207.^ Scots Peerage
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