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Eudo la Zouche - Lord of Cantelou
- Preferred Name: Eudo la Zouche - Lord of Cantelou[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
- Gender: M
- Birth: ABT 1238 in Ashby de la Zouch, Leicester, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.752 LONG: E1.4954
- Burial: JUN 1279
- LdsEndowment: 21 SEP 1970 with note: GEDCOM data
- Residence: in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England at LATI: N2.5685 LONG: E0.6514 with note: GEDCOM data
- LdsBaptism: 29 JUN 1970 with note: GEDCOM data
- FSID: 977N-DLY
- Death: 28 APR 1279 in Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.7325 LONG: E1.4537
- LdsSealingToParents: 12 MAR 1992 with note: GEDCOM data
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Wikipedia -Baron(s) Zouche
The la Zouche family descended from Alan la Zouche (d. 1190), lord of the manor of North Molton in North Devon, England, originally called Alain de Porhoët or Ceoche, who was a Breton nobleman who settled in England during the reign of King Henry II (1154-1189). He was the son of Vicomte Geoffrey de Porhoët and Hawise of Brittany. He married Adeline (or Alice) de Belmeis, daughter of Phillip de Belmeis and Maud la Meschine and died at North Molton in 1150. By his marriage he obtained the manor of Ashby in Leicestershire (called after him Ashby-de-la-Zouch). His son was Roger la Zouche (c. 1175 – bef. 14 May 1238) who was the father of Alan la Zouche (1205–1270) and Eudo la Zouche.
Eudo was a professional soldier; late in life he married Millicent de Cantilupe (d.1299), one of the two sisters and co-heiresses of Sir George de Cantilupe (1251-1273), 4th feudal baron of Eaton Bray and Lord of Abergavenny, from whom he inherited several manors including Eaton Bray, Calne and Harringworth and by whom he had three daughters and two sons.
Their elder son William la Zouche was summoned by writ to Parliament as Baron Zouche of Haryngworth, on 16 August 1308. His great-great-great-grandson, the fifth Baron, married Alice Seymour, 6th Baroness St Maur, and assumed that peerage in her right. Their son succeeded to both titles; his stepmother, Elizabeth St. John, was an aunt of the future King Henry VII, a connection which proved useful to later members of the family. The seventh Baron was attainted in 1485 for loyalty to King Richard III but was eventually restored to his title and a part of his lands. On the death in 1625 of Edward la Zouche, 11th Baron Zouche, 12th Baron St Maur, the peerages fell into abeyance between his two daughters, Elizabeth and Mary.
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The question of Eudo's parentage has been much debated, particularly as to whether he was the brother of Alan de la Zouche (and thus the son of Roger) or if was the son of Alan, since he is much younger and his birth falls between generations.
At this time, both Cawley of the Medieval Lands Project and Douglas Richardson on soc.gen-medieval position him as a son of Roger and brother of Alan. See sources below.
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soc.genealogy.medieval › C.P. Affirmation: Eudes la Zouche was not the son of Alan la Zouche and Ellen de Quincy
Douglas Richardson 8/17/10
Dear Newsgroup ~
Complete Peerage, 12 (2) (1959): 937–938 (sub Zouche) has a good account of the life of Sir Eudes la Zouche, of Harringworth, Nothamptonshire (died 1279) and his ever popular wife, Milicent de Cantelowe, commonly known as Milicent de Mohaut. Complete Peerage identifies Sir Eudes' parentage as follows:
"younger brother of Alan la Zouche (d. 1270), of Ashby, co. Leicester, etc., both being sons of Roger la Zouche, of the same, by his wife Margaret ..." END OF QUOTE.
In making this statement, Complete Peerage curiously upended all previous historical works including Dugdale, which works placed Eudes la Zouche one generation later in the the Zouche family tree, that is, as a younger son of Sir Alan la Zouche and his wife, Ellen de Quincy. Here is just a few sources which adopted the position that Eudes la Zouche was the son of Sir Alan la Zouche:
1. Kennett, Parochial Antiq. Attempted in the Hist. of Ambrosden, Burcester & other adjacent Parts 2 (1818): 465–466 (identifies Eudes la Zouche as son of Alan la Zouche, by his wife, Hellen de Quincy).
2. Baker Hist. & Antiq. of Northampton 1 (1822–30): 563 (Beaumont- Quincy-Zouch ped.) (Eudes la Zouch of Harringworth identified as son of Alan la Zouch and Ellen de Quincy).
3. Desc. & Hist. Guide to Ashby-de-la-Zouch & the Neighbourhood (1831): 7–12 (author identifies Eudo [Eudes] la Zouche, ancestor of the Zouches of Harringworth, as a younger son of Alan la Zouche, lord of Ashby-de-la-Zouch, and his wife, daughter of Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester).
4. Burke, Hist. of the Commoners 4 (1838): 227 (sub Whatton) (author identifies Eudes la Zouche, husband of Milicent de Cantelowe, as “the second son of Sir Alan de la Zouch, baron of Ashby de la Zouch, constable of the Tower, and Helen his wife, daughter and co-heiress of Roger de Quincie, Earl of Winchester).
5. Banks, Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 469 (sub Zouche of Ashby), 469–471 (sub Zouche of Haryngworth) (identifies Eudes la Zouche as son of Alan la Zouche and Ellen de Quincy).
6. Foss, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England (1870): 791 (biog. of William la Zouche) (identifies Eudes la Zouche as son of Alan la Zouche).
7. D.N.B. 63 (1900): 414–415 (biog. of Alan la Zouche) (identifies Eudes la Zouche [died 1279] as younger son of Alan la Zouche and Ellen de Quincy).
8. Procs. of the Suffolk Institute of Arch. 29(1) (1962): 34–66 (Naunton ped. dated 18th Cent.) (Eudes la Zouche, husband of Milicent de Cantelowe, identified as son of Alan la Zouche and his wife, Ellen de Quincy).
Besides the above sources, I've elsewhere found that the Quincy arms were included among the quarterings of Sir Eudes la Zouche's later day descendants by at least three different sources. The Quincy arms were presumably included in the belief that Sir Eudes la Zouche's mother was Ellen de Quincy, who was an heiress.
1. Topographer 1 (1789): 197–204 (list of heraldic quarterings for Zouche family of Harringworth taken from Glover’s Barona e, No. 1160, Harleian MSS in the British Library includes the arms of Quincy, Leicester, Grandmesnil, Galloway, Chester, etc., which set of arms respresents the ancestry of Eudes la Zouche’s mother, Ellen de Quincy).
2. Clive, Documents connected with the Hist. of Ludlow & the Lords Marchers (1841): 305 (list of heraldic quarterings of Edward, Lord Zouche of Harringworth dated temp. Queen Elizabeth includes the arms of Quincy and Leicester).
3. Miscellanea Gen. et Heraldica 1 (1868): 158–159 (Saunders ped. dated ?1618 which includes the quarterings of Saunders family arms, including Zouche of Harringworth, Quincy, Cantelowe, Brewes, etc.).
Reviewing the above, it appears that before 1900, it was commonly believed that Sir Eudes la Zouche was the son of Sir Alan la Zouche (died 1270).
The question thus arises: Was Complete Peerage correct in 1959 to place Sir Eudes la Zouche as the son of Sir Roger la Zouche (died 1238), or were all the other earlier sources correct in placing Sir Eudes one generation later in the Zouche family tree as the son of Sir Alan la Zouche (died 1270).
The answer to that question is not as easy to find as one might assume. After sifting through a lot of sources, I've finally determined that Complete Peerage's version is correct and all the earlier sources are in error.
Here is the evidence:
Cal. Patent Rolls, 1258-1266 (1910): 238 specifically states that Eudes la Zouche was the brother, not son, of Alan la Zouche:
Date: 1262. 25 Dec.
"... the king is sending Alan la Zouche, justice of the forest on this side of Trent, to the said march for the preservation of the peace and the defence of those parts, he commands the justice to deliver the castles of Edward, the king's son, to wit, Chester, Beeston and Shotwik to Eudo la Zouche, brother of the said Alan, without delay ..." END OF QUOTE.
The above item may be viewed at the following weblink:
http://sdrc.lib.uiowa.edu/patentrolls/h3v5/body/Henry3vol5page0238.pdf
Complete Peerage shows that Eudes la Zouche was continuously active from 1251 to 1279. This chronology would not permit him to be a younger son of Sir Alan la Zouche (died 1270).
As for Eudes la Zouche's wife, Milicent de Cantelowe, Complete Peerage tells us very little about her first marriage to John de Mohaut, except to say that she married (1st) John de Mohaut before 1254 [see Cal. IPM 1 (1904): 92].
Elsewhere in a note in G. Herbert Fowler "Tractatus de Dunstaple and de Hocton" in Publications of the Bedfordshire Historical Record Society, vol. 19 (1937): 92, John de Mohaut [husband of Milicent de Cantelowe] is identified as the son [probably eldest] of Roger de Mohaut, by his wife, Cecily, daughter of William d'Aubeney, 3rd Earl of Arundel. John de Mohaut was living in 1257 [see Cal. Close Rolls, 1256-1259, pg. 157], and is recorded to have died in 1258 [see Ann. Cestr., 77, 78].
I assume therefore Milicent de Cantelowe married (2nd) Eudes la Zouche about 1260. They were definitely married by 1273.
Mr. Fowler further notes that at Milicent de Cantelowe's death in 1299, she held the manor of Foleshill, Warwickshire of her former brother-in-law, Robert de Mohaut. The above author assumes this property was probably Milicent's dower of the Mohaut marriage. However, Foleshill was held by the Bois family as subtenants under the Mohaut family [see VCH Warwick 8 (1969): 57-70]. Before Milicent died, various Bois manors were transferred to her on the marriage of her son, William la Zouche, to Maud Lovel, then heiress apparent of the Bois family. As such, the possibility exists that Milicent was holding Foleshill in trust at the time of her death for her son and daughter-in-law and that she had no dower rights at all to this property.
In summary, it is clear that both Eudes la Zouche and his wife, Milicent de Cantelowe, were of the age to be contemporaries to Sir Alan la Zouche (died 1270). As such, it is absoutely impossible that Sir Eudes la Zouche was a younger son of Sir Alan la Zouche. Moreover, there is no evidence that there were two Eudes la Zouche's in successive generations in the Zouche family. Rather, there appears to have been one Eudes la Zouche at this time. He occurs continuously in contemporary records from 1251 to 1279. His wife, Milicent de Cantelowe, similarly occurs continuously in the records from 1254 to 1299.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Eudo was a professional soldier;
Green, Sir Thomas, Fifth Lord of de, & wife of Lucie de la Zouche
Sir Thomas, the fifth lord, was born in 1292. He contracted a high marriage with one of royal descent, and when about 40 was made High Sheriff of Northampton (1330-1332) in the early part of the
=== Eudo la Zouche of Haryngworth, d.1279, a ===
Eudo la Zouche of Haryngworth, d.1279, a younger bro. of Si r Alan la Zouche; m. Milicent de Cantelou (66:30), d.ca.129 9, wid. John de Montault, and dau. of William de Cantelou a nd Eva de Braiose. (CP I 22, XII (2) 937-938).
=== Eudo Notes ===
From Medieval Lands:
EON la Zouche (-[28 Apr/25 Jun] 1279). m (before 13 Dec 1273) as her second husband, MILLICENT de Cauntelo, widow of JOHN de Mohaut, daughter of WILLIAM [IV] de Cauntelo of Calne, Wiltshire & his wife Eva de Briouse (-before 7 Jan 1299). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Georgius" who died childless and "Johanna nupta Henrico de Hastings et Milisannt de Monte-alto…uxor Ivonis de la Zouch" as the children of "Willielmo de Cantilupo" and his wife[1162]. Inquisitions following a writ dated 4 Nov "1 Edw I" after the death of "George de Cantilupo" name “Milisanda the wife of Eudo la Zuche of full age and John son of Henry and Joan de Hastinges who is under age and in the king’s wardship are his next heirs...the said Milisanda and Joan being sisters of the said George”[1163]. Eon & his wife had three children:
i) WILLIAM la Zouche (Harringworth 18 or 21 Dec 1276-11/12 Mar 1352). He was summoned to parliament in 1323 whereby he is held to have become Lord Zouche (of Harringworth).
- ZOUCHE of HARRINGWORTH.
ii) EVE la Zouche (-5 Dec 1314, bur Portbury, Somerset). m (1289) as his first wife, MAURICE de Berkeley Lord Berkeley, son of THOMAS de Berkeley Lord Berkeley & his wife Joan de Ferrers of the Earls of Derby ([Apr 1281]-31 May 1326, bur Wallingford, transferred to Bristol St Augustine’s).
iii) ELEANOR la Zouche . A manuscript relating to Ranton Priory, Staffordshire records that “Johanni de Harecourt” married firstly “Elianoram la Souche”[1164]. Her parentage is confirmed by Kirkby’s Inquest for Yorkshire, probably dated to [1284/85], which records Bingley as held by “Stephanus Waleys”, who held it from “Elienora de Zuche” who held it from “Milisanta de Monte Alto matre sua”[1165]. m as his first wife, JOHN de Harcourt, son of RICHARD [II] de Harcourt & his first wife Margaret Beke (-before 2 May 1330).
[Source: The Medieval Lands Project, "EON la Zouche", downloased 25 Augustg 2018, dvmansur; see link in Aources.]
Sir Thomas, the fifth lord, was born in 1292. He contracted a high marriage with one of royal descent, and when about 40 was made High Sheriff of Northampton (1330-1332) in the early part of the reign of Edward III. "The office was not as in these days, but esteemed equal to the care of princes, an office of great trust and reputation, and justly esteemed honos sine onere." (Halstead)
Our chronicler continues: "He married Lucie the daughter of Eudo de la Zouche and Millicent, one of the sisters and heirs of George de Cantelupe, Lord of Abergavenny, (on the River Usk in Wales,) with whom he had in free marriage nine Messuages, (houses with adjoining lands), one Toft (a grove), and four Virgates of Land (yard lands of from 15 to 40 acres each) with their appurtenances in Harringworth. The house of de la Zouche was lineally descended from Alan the famous Earl and Sovereign of Little Britain." Sir Thomas, my Lady Lucie, had one son, Sir Henry de Greene, afterward Lord Chief Justice of England.
Lady Lucie had royal blood. From her only son have descended the Earls of Wiltshire, Montague, Peterborough and Sandwich, as well as a host of good Americans, including the Warwick and Quidnessett Greenes. For their benefit Lady Lucie de la Zouche's pedigree is given.
Charles the Bald, the grandson of Charlemagne, was King of France from 823-877. When at war with his brothers and in sore straits, he called to his aid Robert the Strong, a Saxon leader in England, and rewarded him with rick territorial grants and the titles of Count of Anjou and Duke of Ile de France. This was in 861. Duke Robert was every inch a military man, and won renown for his victories over the Norsemen, after they were successful almost everywhere else. It is from him that the martial spirit came that has blazed out anew now and then down the centuries, among his descendants, as in Lord Montague and the Earl of Sandwich in England, and our own General Nathaniel Greene of Revolutionary War fame.
Robert the Strong fell in battle with the Norsemen. A son Hugh was later killed in a Norse battle also. Robert's two sons, Duke Eudes and Duke Robert, are by some reckoned among the kings of Freance, as they exercised the power of a ruler. Eudes long fought the Norsemen with dogges courage. Robert, who succeeded this brother, had civil wars to contend with. When Robert's son, Count Hugo the White, or Hugo the Great, became Duke of France, there was nominally a descendant of Charlemagne on the French throne. In reality Hugo was king in all but name. His son, Hugh Capet, in 987, wrested the throne from the weak puppet upon it, and was crowned king at Rheims. Hugo Capet married a sister of Guilhem Fier-a-Bras (William of the Iron Arm), the Duke of Aquitaine.
=== V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees ===
V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees P. 101
M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P. 37
SURNAME: Also shown as Zouche, Lord of Cantelou
GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Eudo La
DEATH: Also shown as Died 24 Jun 1279
=== Source: ===
http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/ZOUCHE.htm#Eudo%20La%20ZOUCHE1
=== {{British Isles 742-1499}} ===
{{British Isles 742-1499}}
== Biography ==He was born at Ashby, Leicestershire, Mitlesentre, England, the son of[[Zouche-16 | Roger le Zouche]] and [[Biset-18 | Margaret Biset]].[Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 83-84.]
=== Marriage & Children ===:He married Milicent de Cantelowe, daughter of Sir William de Cantelowe, Baron of Eaton Bay & Abergavenny, Constable of Builth Castle and Eve de Brewes, before 13 December 1273, in Abergavenny, Over Gwent, Monmouthshire, Wales.1047 Millicent was born circa 1250 of Calne, Wiltshire, England and died about 1299 . They had 1 son & 3 daughters:[Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition,Vol. I, p. 174-175.][Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 342.][Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 282-283.][Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 330-331.][Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 205-206.][Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 287.]
# Sir William, 1st Lord Zouche of Harringworth
# Elizabeth, wife of Sir Nicholas Poyntz
# Ela, wife of Sir Maurice de Berkeley, 2nd Lord Berkeley
# Eleanor, wife of Sir John de Harcourt
=== Death ===:Sir Eudes la Zouche died between 28 April 1279 and 25 June 1279 at Haryngworth, Northamptonshire, England.
=== Note ===:The arms shown herein are recorded by the Heralds for Eudo la Zouche on the St. Georges Roll (c. 1285), as having been borne by knights representing this house at that time. Since this Eudes is shown as d. in 1279, we assume that someone else in this line bore them. This does not, in itself, mean that these are not his Arms.
== Sources ==
See Also:
*[http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p111.htm#i3339 Marlyn Lewis]* Speight, Harry. ''[[Space:Nidderdale, fromNun Monkton to Whernside|Nidderdale, from Nun Monkton to Whernside]]'' (E. Stock, London, 1906) [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89059847426;view=1up;seq=173;size=125 Page 169]
=== Wikipedia -Baron(s) Zouche ===
Wikipedia -Baron(s) Zouche
The la Zouche family descended from Alan la Zouche (d. 1190), lord of the manor of North Molton in North Devon, England, originally called Alain de Porhoët or Ceoche, who was a Breton nobleman who settled in England during the reign of King Henry II (1154-1189). He was the son of Vicomte Geoffrey de Porhoët and Hawise of Brittany. He married Adeline (or Alice) de Belmeis, daughter of Phillip de Belmeis and Maud la Meschine and died at North Molton in 1150. By his marriage he obtained the manor of Ashby in Leicestershire (called after him Ashby-de-la-Zouch). His son was Roger la Zouche (c. 1175 – bef. 14 May 1238) who was the father of Alan la Zouche (1205–1270) and Eudo la Zouche.
Eudo was a professional soldier; late in life he married Millicent de Cantilupe (d.1299), one of the two sisters and co-heiresses of Sir George de Cantilupe (1251-1273), 4th feudal baron of Eaton Bray and Lord of Abergavenny, from whom he inherited several manors including Eaton Bray, Calne and Harringworth and by whom he had three daughters and two sons.
Their elder son William la Zouche was summoned by writ to Parliament as Baron Zouche of Haryngworth, on 16 August 1308. His great-great-great-grandson, the fifth Baron, married Alice Seymour, 6th Baroness St Maur, and assumed that peerage in her right. Their son succeeded to both titles; his stepmother, Elizabeth St. John, was an aunt of the future King Henry VII, a connection which proved useful to later members of the family. The seventh Baron was attainted in 1485 for loyalty to King Richard III but was eventually restored to his title and a part of his lands. On the death in 1625 of Edward la Zouche, 11th Baron Zouche, 12th Baron St Maur, the peerages fell into abeyance between his two daughters, Elizabeth and Mary.
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The question of Eudo's parentage has been much debated, particularly as to whether he was the brother of Alan de la Zouche (and thus the son of Roger) or if was the son of Alan, since he is much younger and his birth falls between generations.
At this time, both Cawley of the Medieval Lands Project and Douglas Richardson on soc.gen-medieval position him as a son of Roger and brother of Alan. See sources below.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/2Fi1vod35eY/...
soc.genealogy.medieval › C.P. Affirmation: Eudes la Zouche was not the son of Alan la Zouche and Ellen de Quincy
Douglas Richardson 8/17/10
Dear Newsgroup ~
Complete Peerage, 12 (2) (1959): 937–938 (sub Zouche) has a good account of the life of Sir Eudes la Zouche, of Harringworth, Nothamptonshire (died 1279) and his ever popular wife, Milicent de Cantelowe, commonly known as Milicent de Mohaut. Complete Peerage identifies Sir Eudes' parentage as follows:
"younger brother of Alan la Zouche (d. 1270), of Ashby, co. Leicester, etc., both being sons of Roger la Zouche, of the same, by his wife Margaret ..." END OF QUOTE.
In making this statement, Complete Peerage curiously upended all previous historical works including Dugdale, which works placed Eudes la Zouche one generation later in the the Zouche family tree, that is, as a younger son of Sir Alan la Zouche and his wife, Ellen de Quincy. Here is just a few sources which adopted the position that Eudes la Zouche was the son of Sir Alan la Zouche:
1. Kennett, Parochial Antiq. Attempted in the Hist. of Ambrosden, Burcester & other adjacent Parts 2 (1818): 465–466 (identifies Eudes la Zouche as son of Alan la Zouche, by his wife, Hellen de Quincy).
2. Baker Hist. & Antiq. of Northampton 1 (1822–30): 563 (Beaumont- Quincy-Zouch ped.) (Eudes la Zouch of Harringworth identified as son of Alan la Zouch and Ellen de Quincy).
3. Desc. & Hist. Guide to Ashby-de-la-Zouch & the Neighbourhood (1831): 7–12 (author identifies Eudo [Eudes] la Zouche, ancestor of the Zouches of Harringworth, as a younger son of Alan la Zouche, lord of Ashby-de-la-Zouch, and his wife, daughter of Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester).
4. Burke, Hist. of the Commoners 4 (1838): 227 (sub Whatton) (author identifies Eudes la Zouche, husband of Milicent de Cantelowe, as “the second son of Sir Alan de la Zouch, baron of Ashby de la Zouch, constable of the Tower, and Helen his wife, daughter and co-heiress of Roger de Quincie, Earl of Winchester).
5. Banks, Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 469 (sub Zouche of Ashby), 469–471 (sub Zouche of Haryngworth) (identifies Eudes la Zouche as son of Alan la Zouche and Ellen de Quincy).
6. Foss, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England (1870): 791 (biog. of William la Zouche) (identifies Eudes la Zouche as son of Alan la Zouche).
7. D.N.B. 63 (1900): 414–415 (biog. of Alan la Zouche) (identifies Eudes la Zouche [died 1279] as younger son of Alan la Zouche and Ellen de Quincy).
8. Procs. of the Suffolk Institute of Arch. 29(1) (1962): 34–66 (Naunton ped. dated 18th Cent.) (Eudes la Zouche, husband of Milicent de Cantelowe, identified as son of Alan la Zouche and his wife, Ellen de Quincy).
Besides the above sources, I've elsewhere found that the Quincy arms were included among the quarterings of Sir Eudes la Zouche's later day descendants by at least three different sources. The Quincy arms were presumably included in the belief that Sir Eudes la Zouche's mother was Ellen de Quincy, who was an heiress.
1. Topographer 1 (1789): 197–204 (list of heraldic quarterings for Zouche family of Harringworth taken from Glover’s Barona e, No. 1160, Harleian MSS in the British Library includes the arms of Quincy, Leicester, Grandmesnil, Galloway, Chester, etc., which set of arms respresents the ancestry of Eudes la Zouche’s mother, Ellen de Quincy).
2. Clive, Documents connected with the Hist. of Ludlow & the Lords Marchers (1841): 305 (list of heraldic quarterings of Edward, Lord Zouche of Harringworth dated temp. Queen Elizabeth includes the arms of Quincy and Leicester).
3. Miscellanea Gen. et Heraldica 1 (1868): 158–159 (Saunders ped. dated ?1618 which includes the quarterings of Saunders family arms, including Zouche of Harringworth, Quincy, Cantelowe, Brewes, etc.).
Reviewing the above, it appears that before 1900, it was commonly believed that Sir Eudes la Zouche was the son of Sir Alan la Zouche (died 1270).
The question thus arises: Was Complete Peerage correct in 1959 to place Sir Eudes la Zouche as the son of Sir Roger la Zouche (died 1238), or were all the other earlier sources correct in placing Sir Eudes one generation later in the Zouche family tree as the son of Sir Alan la Zouche (died 1270).
The answer to that question is not as easy to find as one might assume. After sifting through a lot of sources, I've finally determined that Complete Peerage's version is correct and all the earlier sources are in error.
Here is the evidence:
Cal. Patent Rolls, 1258-1266 (1910): 238 specifically states that Eudes la Zouche was the brother, not son, of Alan la Zouche:
Date: 1262. 25 Dec.
"... the king is sending Alan la Zouche, justice of the forest on this side of Trent, to the said march for the preservation of the peace and the defence of those parts, he commands the justice to deliver the castles of Edward, the king's son, to wit, Chester, Beeston and Shotwik to Eudo la Zouche, brother of the said Alan, without delay ..." END OF QUOTE.
The above item may be viewed at the following weblink:
http://sdrc.lib.uiowa.edu/patentrolls/h3v5/body/Henry3vol5page0238.pdf
Complete Peerage shows that Eudes la Zouche was continuously active from 1251 to 1279. This chronology would not permit him to be a younger son of Sir Alan la Zouche (died 1270).
As for Eudes la Zouche's wife, Milicent de Cantelowe, Complete Peerage tells us very little about her first marriage to John de Mohaut, except to say that she married (1st) John de Mohaut before 1254 [see Cal. IPM 1 (1904): 92].
Elsewhere in a note in G. Herbert Fowler "Tractatus de Dunstaple and de Hocton" in Publications of the Bedfordshire Historical Record Society, vol. 19 (1937): 92, John de Mohaut [husband of Milicent de Cantelowe] is identified as the son [probably eldest] of Roger de Mohaut, by his wife, Cecily, daughter of William d'Aubeney, 3rd Earl of Arundel. John de Mohaut was living in 1257 [see Cal. Close Rolls, 1256-1259, pg. 157], and is recorded to have died in 1258 [see Ann. Cestr., 77, 78].
I assume therefore Milicent de Cantelowe married (2nd) Eudes la Zouche about 1260. They were definitely married by 1273.
Mr. Fowler further notes that at Milicent de Cantelowe's death in 1299, she held the manor of Foleshill, Warwickshire of her former brother-in-law, Robert de Mohaut. The above author assumes this property was probably Milicent's dower of the Mohaut marriage. However, Foleshill was held by the Bois family as subtenants under the Mohaut family [see VCH Warwick 8 (1969): 57-70]. Before Milicent died, various Bois manors were transferred to her on the marriage of her son, William la Zouche, to Maud Lovel, then heiress apparent of the Bois family. As such, the possibility exists that Milicent was holding Foleshill in trust at the time of her death for her son and daughter-in-law and that she had no dower rights at all to this property.
In summary, it is clear that both Eudes la Zouche and his wife, Milicent de Cantelowe, were of the age to be contemporaries to Sir Alan la Zouche (died 1270). As such, it is absoutely impossible that Sir Eudes la Zouche was a younger son of Sir Alan la Zouche. Moreover, there is no evidence that there were two Eudes la Zouche's in successive generations in the Zouche family. Rather, there appears to have been one Eudes la Zouche at this time. He occurs continuously in contemporary records from 1251 to 1279. His wife, Milicent de Cantelowe, similarly occurs continuously in the records from 1254 to 1299.
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=== Alternate name found in file: Eon La Zou ===
Alternate name found in file: Eon La Zouche
Eudo, from whom the Zouches, Barons Zouche, of Haryngworth derive. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dorman t, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 598, Zou che, Baron Zouche, of Ashby, co. Leicester]
**********************Eudo, from whom the Zouches, Barons Zouche, of Haryngworth derive. [Si r Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., Lo ndon, 1883, p. 598, Zouche, Baron Zouche, of Ashby, co. Leicester]
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=== b. Eudo la Zouche was a younger brother ===
b. Eudo la Zouche was a younger brother of Sir Alan la Zouche of Haryngworth. ["Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists" by Weis, Seventh Edition, line 39-29, p. 43.] !Eudo la Zouche (38-29), seen 1251, d. 28 Apr.-25 Jun. 1279; m. by 13 Dec. 1273, Milicent (86-30), wid. John de Mohaut, and dau. of William de Cauntelo of Calne, Wilts (and h. to her bro. George de Cauntelo) by Eve, 3rd dau. and coh. of William de Briouze of Abergavenny. ["Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists" by Weis, line 253-29, p. 227.] !Eudo la Zouche, younger bro. of Alan la Zouche (see 38-28), of Haryngworth, d. 1279, m. Milicent de Cantelou (66-30), d. ca. 1299, dau. of William de Cantelou and Eva de Braose and wid. of John de Mohaut. ["Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists" by Weis, Seventh Edition, line 39-29, p. 43.]
Preferred Parents:
Father: Roger la Zouche - Second Lord Zouche, Lord of Ashby Sheriff of Devon, b. 1175 in North Molton, Devon, England d. 14 MAY 1238 in Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England
Family 1: Agatha Ferrers,
Family 2: Millicent Cantilupe, b. ABT 1246 in Calne, Wiltshire, England d. 7 JAN 1299 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England
- Eleanor La Zouche, b. ABT 1278 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England d. 11 OCT 1350 in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England
- Eva la Zouche , b. 8 JAN 1275 in Corby, Northamptonshire, England d. 5 DEC 1314 in Portbury, Somerset, England
- Eve Zouche, b. ABT 1275 in Coberley, Gloucestershire, England
- William la Zouche of Harringworth - First Baron Zouche, b. 18 DEC 1276 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England, United Kingdom d. 10 MAR 1352 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England, United Kingdom
Sources:
- Title: The Peerage
Author: The Peerage
Publication: Name: http://www.thepeerage.com/p66.htm#i652;
Note: Eon la Zouche was the son of Roger la Zouche and Margaret (?) He married Millicent de Cauntelo, daughter of William de Cauntelo and Eve de Briouze, before 13 December 1273. He died in 1279.
He lived at Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England. He was also known as Eudes la Zouche.
Children of Eon la Zouche and Millicent de Cauntelo
Eva la Zouche d. 6 Dec 1314
Elizabeth la Zouche
William la Zouche, 1st Baron Zouche (of Haryngworth) b. 18 Dec 1276, d. 11 Mar 1351/52
- Title: Eudes la Zouche in Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p111.htm#i3339 index to pedigrees [citations]
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p111.htm#i3339;
Note: Sir Eudes la Zouche [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9]
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #3339, d. between 28 April 1279 and 25 June 1279
Father Roger le Zouche, 2nd Lord Zouche, Sheriff of Devonshire [6] b. c 1175, d. c 14 May 1238
Mother Margaret Biset [6] b. c 1179, d. a 28 Jan 1232
Sir Eudes la Zouche Eudo is brother, NOT son, of Alan le Zouche. He was born at of Ashby, Leicestershire, Mitlesentre, England. He married Milicent de Cantelowe, daughter of Sir William de Cantelowe, Baron of Eaton Bay & Abergavenny, Constable of Builth Castle and Eve de Brewes, before 13 December 1273; They had 1 son (Sir William, 1st Lord Zouche of Harringworth) & 3 daughters (Elizabeth, wife of Sir Nicholas Poyntz; Ela, wife of Sir Maurice de Berkeley, 2nd Lord Berkeley; & Eleanor, wife of Sir John de Harcourt). [2,3,4,5,6,8,9] Sir Eudes la Zouche died between 28 April 1279 and 25 June 1279 at of Haryngworth, Northamptonshire, England.6
Family: Milicent de Cantelowe b. c 1245, d. c 7 Jan 1299
Children:
Elizabeth la Zouche+ [4,6,9] d. bt 1297 - 9 Feb 1309
Lucy la Zouche+
Eve la Zouche+ [10,2,5,6,7] b. c 1271, d. 5 Dec 1314
Sir William la Zouche, 1st Lord Zouche of Harringworth+ [6] b. 18 Dec 1276 or 21 Dec 1276, d. 11 Mar 1352 or 12 Mar 1352
Eleanor la Zouche+ [3,6,8] b. c 1278
Citations:
1. [S354] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. II, p. 129, Vol. XII/2, p. 937-9438; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 77; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 103.
2. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 174-175.
3. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 342.
4. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 282-283.
5. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 330-331.
6. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 83-84.
7. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 243.
8. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 205-206.
9. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 287.
10. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 97.
Page: relationships, places, dates, and 10 sources
- Title: Earls of England
Author: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Medieval Lands Projects, Lancaster
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntlo.htm#_Toc64702013;
Note: About Gilbert and Helewise
Page: British Isles - England, Untitled Nobility A-C , p. 280 MILLICENT de Cauntelo (-before 7 Jan 1299). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Georgius" who died childless and "Johanna nupta Henrico de Hastings et Milisannt de Monte-alto…uxor Ivonis de la Zouch" as the children of "Willielmo de Cantilupo" and his wife[2143]. Inquisitions following a writ dated 4 Nov "1 Edw I" after the death of "George de Cantilupo" name “Milisanda the wife of Eudo la Zuche of full age and John son of Henry and Joan de Hastinges who is under age an in the king’s wardship are his next heirs...the said Milisanda and Joan being sisters of the said George”[2144]. m firstly (before Nov 1254) JOHN de Mohaut, son of ---. m secondly (before 13 Dec 1273) EON la Zouche, son of ROGER la Zouche & his wife Margaret --- (-[28 Apr/25 Jun] 1279).
- Title: Book - Ancestral Roots
- Title: Encyclopedia of Connecticut Biography: Genealogical-memorial ..., Volume 4 edited by Samuel Hart
Author: page 17
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=KSwEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=lucy+de+la+zouche+%2B+eudo+de+la+zouche&source=bl&ots=pmUcQ-pZtA&sig=x_80KN89o1CJGBFaS0RCX4wYVw4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBp8zn5LHWAhUH94MKHYMTBgs4ChDoAQhQMAg#v=onepage&q=lucy%20de%20la%20zouche%20%2B%20eudo%20de%20la%20zouche&f=false;
- Title: Book - Magna Charta Ancestry
- Title: Eudes La Zouche (1232-1279), "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVL7-G8NB : 24 August 2022), Lord of Cantelou, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 90592294, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVL7-G8NB;
Note: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/90592294/eudes-la_zouche
Eudes La Zouche
BIRTH 1232 Ashby-de-la-Zouch, North West Leicestershire District, Leicestershire, England
DEATH 24 Jun 1279 (aged 46–47) Harringworth, East Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England
BURIAL Unknown
MEMORIAL ID 90592294
Eudo was a professional soldier; late in life he married Millicent de Cantilupe by whom he had three daughters and two sons.
Spouse: Millicent De Cantilupe La Zouche (1250–1298)
He was a brother not a son of Alan Zouche!
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#EonZouchedied1279;
- Title: Baron Zouche is a title which has been created three times, all in the Peerage of England
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Zouche;
- Title: Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=60541&h=500398&indiv=try;
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