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Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl Of Winchester Constable Of Scotland
- Preferred Name: Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl Of Winchester Constable Of Scotland[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27]
- Gender: M
- Occupation: 1234 with note: Description: Constable of Scotland
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- FSID: LB88-NYH
- Birth: 1195 in Winchester, Hampshire, England at LATI: N1.0629 LONG: E1.3148
- Burial: in St. Peter's Churchyard, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England at LATI: N2.0303 LONG: E1.1389
- Death: 25 APR 1264 in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England at LATI: N2.0291 LONG: E1.1438 with note: No uk in 1195
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=== Life Sketch ===
Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester (c.1195 – 25 April 1264), hereditary Constable of Scotland, was a nobleman of Anglo-Norman and Scottish descent who was prominent in both England and Scotland, at his death having one of the largest baronial landholdings in the two kingdoms.
The de Quincy family, originating from the village of Cuinchy in Artois, had been prominent in England and Scotland from about 1130. Roger, second son and eventual heir of Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester, and his wife Margaret, younger daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester, probably joined his father on the Fifth Crusade, during which the elder de Quincy fell sick in Egypt and died. Since Roger's older brother Robert had died a few years earlier, he inherited his father's estates on his return, but was not recognised as earl until his mother died in 1235.
Career
He married a major heiress, Helen of Galloway, the eldest of the three daughters of Alan, Lord of Galloway. On her father's death in 1234, he acquired her share of the paternal inheritance, which consisted of the hereditary office of Constable of Scotland and one-third of the lordship of Galloway. The title of Lord of Galloway, however, went through Helen's half-sister Devorguilla to her husband John Balliol.
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He died aged about 69 on 25 April 1264, eighteen days after the outbreak of civil war, and was buried at Brackley. Having no male heir, the earldom of Winchester became extinct and his estates were divided among the husbands of his three daughters.
Family
He married three times, leaving three daughters from his first marriage to Helen of Galloway:
1. Margaret (or Margery), who married William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby;
2. Elizabeth (or Isabel), who married Alexander Comyn, 2nd Earl of Buchan;
3. Helen, who married Alan de la Zouche.
His second marriage was in about 1250 to Maud de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford, who died in 1252.
Thirdly, in 125(3), he married Eleanor de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby. Neither of these marriages produced any children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Quincy,_2nd_Earl_of_Winchester
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“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ROGER DE QUINCY, Knt., 2nd Earl of Winchester, of Ware, Hertfordshire, Eynesbury, Keyston and Southoe, Huntingdonshire, Belgrave, Burton Overy, Braunstone, Galby, King's Norton, and Laughton, Leicestershire, Shipton (in Shipton-on-Cherwell), Oxfordshire, Seckington, Warwickshire, etc., and Leuchars, Fife, Scotland, and, in right of his 1st wife, hereditary Constable of Scotland, 2nd but eldest surviving son.
He married (1st) ELLEN OF GALLOWAY, 2nd but let surviving daughter and co-heiress of Alan Fitz Roland, Lord of Galloway, hereditary Constable of Scotland, by his 1st wife, ___, daughter of Roger de Lacy, Knt., of Pontefract, Yorkshire, hereditary Constable of Chester [see LACY 2.iii for her ancestry]. Her maritagium included the manor of Kippax, Yorkshire. They had three daughters, Margaret (or Margery), Elizabeth (or Isabel), and Ellen. He was excommunicated with his father by Pope Innocent III 16 Dec. 1215. He was presumably on Crusade at Damietta at the time of his father's death in 1219. His eldest brother, Robert, then being dead, Roger did homage and received livery of his father's lands 16 Feb. 1221. In 1222 he served as a captain in the king's army in Poitou. In 1230 his niece, Margaret de Quincy, wife of John de Lacy, released her claim to the main Quincy inheritance to him; in return he granted to John and Margaret and their issue her mother, Hawise's dower, including the manor of Grantchester, Cambridgeshire, to hold of him and his heirs. In 1233 a notification of Walter, Archbishop of York, stated that the priory of St. John of Pontefract had recovered the advowson of Kippax, Yorkshire against Roger de Quincy in an assize of darrein presentment. He succeeded to the earldom of Winchester in 1235 on his mother's death. In 1235 the Gallwegians, being opposed to the partition of Alan of Galloway's dominions among his three daughters (including Roger's wife, Ellen), petitioned King Alexander II to make Alan's illegitimate son, Thomas, their overlord. The king rejected the petition, and an insurrection took place, but was soon suppressed. He presented to a mediety of the church of Croxton, Leicestershire, 1235, and to the churches of Markfield, Leicestershire, 1254, 1257; Laughton, Leicestershire, 1248, 1254, 1258, 1269; and Wadenhoe, Northamptonshire, 1261. In 1237 he had license to import corn and victuals from Ireland through a merchant named Erskin of Kirkcudbright in Scotland. In 1239 he joined other nobles in writing a letter of remonstrance to Pope Gregory IX, complaining of the Pope's infringement of the rights of English patrons. Roger served with the king in Guienne in 1242. His wife, Ellen, was living 21 Nov. 1245. She was buried at BracIdey, Northamptonshire. In 1246 he again joined in a letter sent to the pope with reference to the grievances of England against the Roman see. On the death of his wife's sister, Christian, Countess of Aumale, in 1246, he obtained a further portion of Galloway in right of his wife. He ruled the chiefs there with great severity; they rose against him in 1247, and besieged him in one of his castles. Preferring a quick death by the sword to a lingering one of starvation, he suddenly caused the gates to be thrown open, and almost unattended, cut his way through the besiegers, and rode until he reached the court of the King of the Scots. King Alexander punished the rebels and re-established Roger in his possessions. About 1250 Roger quitclaimed to the church of St. Mary and St. Nicholas, Littlemore, Oxfordshire the suit of his court at Chinnor, Oxfordshire, required for the 18 acres in the fields of Svdenham, Oxfordshire, which the said nuns of Littlemore had of the gift of Saher de Quincy his father. He married (2nd) before 12 June 1250 MAUD DE BOHUN, widow of Anselm Marshal, 9th Earl of Pembroke, hereditary Master Marshal, hereditary Steward of Leinster (died at Chepstow 22, 23, or 24 Dec. 1245) [see MARSHAL 3.v], and daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Knt., Earl of Hereford and Essex, hereditary Constable of England, by Maud, daughter of Raoul (or Ralph) d'Exoudun, 7th Count of Eu. They had no issue. About 1250 he witnessed a charter of Richard de Harcourt, Knt., of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire in favor of his son, William de Harcourt [see BOHUN 6 for her ancestry]. His wife, Maud, died at Groby (in Ratby), Leicestershire 20 October 1252, and was buried at Brackley, Northamptonshire. In the period, 1252-7, he exchanged the manors of Kippax and Scholes and the advowson of the church of Kippax, Yorkshire with his great nephew, Edmund de Lacy, for the manor of Elmsall (in South Kirkby), Yorkshire. He married (3rd) shortly before 17 Jan. 1252/3 ELEANOR DE FERRERS, widow of William de Vaux, of Tharston and Houghton, Norfolk (died testate shortly before 5 Dec. 1252), and daughter of William de Ferrers, Knt., 5th Earl of Derby, by his lst wife, Sibyl, 3rd daughter of William Marshal, Knt., 4th Earl of Pembroke (or Striguil), hereditary Master Marshal [see FERRERS 7 for her ancestry]. They had no issue. Eleanor was co-heiress in 1245 to her uncle, Anselm Marshal, 9th Earl of Pembroke. In 1253 he granted the manor of Ware, Hertfordshire to his younger brother, Robert de Quincy, to hold of him and his heirs at the yearly rent of half a mark and by service of a knight's fee. In 1257 the king appointed him a joint commissioner for composing the disputes between King Alexander III of Scotland and certain of Alexander's nobles. He fought in Wales 1258, and the same year, was one of the twenty-four elected by the Barons for the observance of the Provisions of Oxford. About 1260 he granted a charter to the burgesses of Brackley, Northamptonshire, and made many gifts to the Hospital there, including that of a sarcophagus, 1240, to lie on the right side of the heart of his mother, Margaret de Quincy, and to be filled three times a year with winnowed corn for the use of the Hospital. About 1264 he granted Nicholas de Clacmanan, the king's brewer, the whole land of the constabulary of Clacmannan. At an unknown date, he granted to the monks of Lindores Abbey that they and their men should have a free road through the middle of his wood at Kinloch near Collessie and through the whole of his land as far as to the moor of Eden for heather and through the middle of the moor for peats. At an unknown date, he likewise confirmed the grant of his father to St. Andrews Priory of three silver marks annually from the mill of Leuchars, Fife. SIR ROGER DE QUINCY, 2nd Earl of Winchester, Constable of Scotland, died 25 April 1264, and was probably buried at Brackley, Northamptonshire. His widow, Eleanor, married (3rd) before 8 Sept. 1267 (as his 2nd wife) ROGER DE LEYBOURNE, Knt., of Elham, Kent, Steward of the King's Household, Warden of the Cinque Ports, Sheriff of Kent, Warden of the Forests beyond Trent, son of Roger de Leybourne, of Leybourne, Kent, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heiress of Stephen de Turnham. SIR ROGER DE LEYBOURNE died 5 Nov. 1271. Eleanor, Countess of Winchester, died 16 October 1274.
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2nd Earl of Winchester and Constable of Scotland.
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Constable of Scotland, accompanied his father on the Fifth Crusade in 1219.
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=== Royal Ancestry Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ROGER DE QUINCY, Knt., 2nd Earl of Winchester, of Ware, Hertfordshire, Eynesbury, Keyston and Southoe, Huntingdonshire, Belgrave, Burton Overy, Braunstone, Galby, King's Norton, and Laughton, Leicestershire, Shipton (in Shipton-on-Cherwell), Oxfordshire, Seckington, Warwickshire, etc., and Leuchars, Fife, Scotland, and, in right of his 1st wife, hereditary Constable of Scotland, 2nd but eldest surviving son. He married (1st) ELLEN OF GALLOWAY, 2nd but let surviving daughter and co-heiress of Alan Fitz Roland, Lord of Galloway, hereditary Constable of Scotland, by his 1st wife, ___, daughter of Roger de Lacy, Knt., of Pontefract, Yorkshire, hereditary Constable of Chester [see LACY 2.iii for her ancestry]. Her maritagium included the manor of Kippax, Yorkshire. They had three daughters, Margaret (or Margery), Elizabeth (or Isabel), and Ellen. He was excommunicated with his father by Pope Innocent III 16 Dec. 1215. He was presumably on Crusade at Damietta at the time of his father's death in 1219. His eldest brother, Robert, then being dead, Roger did homage and received livery of his father's lands 16 Feb. 1221. In 1222 he served as a captain in the king's army in Poitou. In 1230 his niece, Margaret de Quincy, wife of John de Lacy, released her claim to the main Quincy inheritance to him; in return he granted to John and Margaret and their issue her mother, Hawise's dower, including the manor of Grantchester, Cambridgeshire, to hold of him and his heirs. In 1233 a notification of Walter, Archbishop of York, stated that the priory of St. John of Pontefract had recovered the advowson of Kippax, Yorkshire against Roger de Quincy in an assize of darrein presentment. He succeeded to the earldom of Winchester in 1235 on his mother's death. In 1235 the Gallwegians, being opposed to the partition of Alan of Galloway's dominions among his three daughters (including Roger's wife, Ellen), petitioned King Alexander II to make Alan's illegitimate son, Thomas, their overlord. The king rejected the petition, and an insurrection took place, but was soon suppressed. He presented to a mediety of the church of Croxton, Leicestershire, 1235, and to the churches of Markfield, Leicestershire, 1254, 1257; Laughton, Leicestershire, 1248, 1254, 1258, 1269; and Wadenhoe, Northamptonshire, 1261. In 1237 he had license to import corn and victuals from Ireland through a merchant named Erskin of Kirkcudbright in Scotland. In 1239 he joined other nobles in writing a letter of remonstrance to Pope Gregory IX, complaining of the Pope's infringement of the rights of English patrons. Roger served with the king in Guienne in 1242. His wife, Ellen, was living 21 Nov. 1245. She was buried at BracIdey, Northamptonshire. In 1246 he again joined in a letter sent to the pope with reference to the grievances of England against the Roman see. On the death of his wife's sister, Christian, Countess of Aumale, in 1246, he obtained a further portion of Galloway in right of his wife. He ruled the chiefs there with great severity; they rose against him in 1247, and besieged him in one of his castles. Preferring a quick death by the sword to a lingering one of starvation, he suddenly caused the gates to be thrown open, and almost unattended, cut his way through the besiegers, and rode until he reached the court of the King of the Scots. King Alexander punished the rebels and re-established Roger in his possessions. About 1250 Roger quitclaimed to the church of St. Mary and St. Nicholas, Littlemore, Oxfordshire the suit of his court at Chinnor, Oxfordshire, required for the 18 acres in the fields of Svdenham, Oxfordshire, which the said nuns of Littlemore had of the gift of Saher de Quincy his father. He married (2nd) before 12 June 1250 MAUD DE BOHUN, widow of Anselm Marshal, 9th Earl of Pembroke, hereditary Master Marshal, hereditary Steward of Leinster (died at Chepstow 22, 23, or 24 Dec. 1245) [see MARSHAL 3.v], and daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Knt., Earl of Hereford and Essex, hereditary Constable of England, by Maud, daughter of Raoul (or Ralph) d'Exoudun, 7th Count of Eu. They had no issue. About 1250 he witnessed a charter of Richard de Harcourt, Knt., of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire in favor of his son, William de Harcourt [see BOHUN 6 for her ancestry]. His wife, Maud, died at Groby (in Ratby), Leicestershire 20 October 1252, and was buried at Brackley, Northamptonshire. In the period, 1252-7, he exchanged the manors of Kippax and Scholes and the advowson of the church of Kippax, Yorkshire with his great nephew, Edmund de Lacy, for the manor of Elmsall (in South Kirkby), Yorkshire. He married (3rd) shortly before 17 Jan. 1252/3 ELEANOR DE FERRERS, widow of William de Vaux, of Tharston and Houghton, Norfolk (died testate shortly before 5 Dec. 1252), and daughter of William de Ferrers, Knt., 5th Earl of Derby, by his lst wife, Sibyl, 3rd daughter of William Marshal, Knt., 4th Earl of Pembroke (or Striguil), hereditary Master Marshal [see FERRERS 7 for her ancestry]. They had no issue. Eleanor was co-heiress in 1245 to her uncle, Anselm Marshal, 9th Earl of Pembroke. In 1253 he granted the manor of Ware, Hertfordshire to his younger brother, Robert de Quincy, to hold of him and his heirs at the yearly rent of half a mark and by service of a knight's fee. In 1257 the king appointed him a joint commissioner for composing the disputes between King Alexander III of Scotland and certain of Alexander's nobles. He fought in Wales 1258, and the same year, was one of the twenty-four elected by the Barons for the observance of the Provisions of Oxford. About 1260 he granted a charter to the burgesses of Brackley, Northamptonshire, and made many gifts to the Hospital there, including that of a sarcophagus, 1240, to lie on the right side of the heart of his mother, Margaret de Quincy, and to be filled three times a year with winnowed corn for the use of the Hospital. About 1264 he granted Nicholas de Clacmanan, the king's brewer, the whole land of the constabulary of Clacmannan. At an unknown date, he granted to the monks of Lindores Abbey that they and their men should have a free road through the middle of his wood at Kinloch near Collessie and through the whole of his land as far as to the moor of Eden for heather and through the middle of the moor for peats. At an unknown date, he likewise confirmed the grant of his father to St. Andrews Priory of three silver marks annually from the mill of Leuchars, Fife. SIR ROGER DE QUINCY, 2nd Earl of Winchester, Constable of Scotland, died 25 April 1264, and was probably buried at Brackley, Northamptonshire. His widow, Eleanor, married (3rd) before 8 Sept. 1267 (as his 2nd wife) ROGER DE LEYBOURNE, Knt., of Elham, Kent, Steward of the King's Household, Warden of the Cinque Ports, Sheriff of Kent, Warden of the Forests beyond Trent, son of Roger de Leybourne, of Leybourne, Kent, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heiress of Stephen de Turnham. SIR ROGER DE LEYBOURNE died 5 Nov. 1271. Eleanor, Countess of Winchester, died 16 October 1274.
Bridges Hist. & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 526, 544-545; 2 (1791): 390. Nichols Hist. & Antiqs. of Leicester 2(1) (1795): Appendix: 97 (confirmation charter of Roger de Quincy), 116-117 (charters of Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester); 3(1) (1800): 121. Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 6 (1807): 134-135. Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 1 (1822-30): 544-545 (Mandeville-Fitz Peter-Bohun ped.), 563 (Beaumont-Quincy ped.). Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 4 (1823): 493 (charter of Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester; charter witnessed by Robert de Quincy his brother). Clutterbuck Hist. & Antiqs. of Hertford 3 (1827): 287-288 (Beaumont-Quincy ped.). Burke Dict. of the Peerages... Extinct, Dormant & in Abeyance (1831): 63-65 (sub Bohun), 442-443 (sub Quincy). Liber Sancte Marie de Metros 1 (1837): 246. Liber Cartarum Sancte Crucis (1840): 49-50, 67-68 (charter of Roger de Quincy). Bruce Liber Cartarum Prioratus Sancti Andree in Scotia (1841): 232-236, 255-257 (charters of Roger de Quincy), 336-337 (charters of Roger de Quincy). Turnbull Chartularies of Balmenno & Lindores: Liber Sancte Marie de Balmorinach (1841): 29 (charter of Roger de Quincy), 60-61; Liber Sancte Marie de Lundoris (1841): 41-42. Extracta e Variis Cronicis Scocie (1842): 94-95. Lyon Hist. of St. Andrews 2 (1843): 286-287. Innes Liber S. Marie de Dryburgh (1847): 99-102 (charters of Roger de Quincy). Laing Desc. Cat. Impressions from Ancient Scottish Seals (1850): 113 (seal of Roger de Quinci, Earl of Winchester. An exceedingly beautiful seal. An armed knight on horseback at full speed; a drawn sword in his right hand, and his left protecting his body with a long pointed shield, much curved. Over a chain armour a surcoat very gracefully disposed. On the shield are five mascles, 2, 2 and 1, of which there are twelve on the housings of the horse. Beneath the horse is a wyvern. Legend: "SIGILL. ROGER[l DE QUINC1] COMITIS WINCESTRIE." Counter Seal. A knight on foot, habited precisely as in the former, in chain armour and surcoat, in combat with a lion, rearing on his hind-legs. On the top of the helmet is a wyvern; and in the lower part of the seal a rose of six leaves. Appended to a charter by Roger de Quinci granting to the Abbey of Holyrood permission to grind all corn required for the Abbey, at his mill at Tranent, free of multure. Legend: "SIGILL. ROGERI DE QUINCI CONSTABULARII SCOCIE." A.D. 1250. - Panmure Charters.). Giles Matthew Paris's English Hist. 2 (1853): 533 (sub AD. 1252: "At this time died, at Groby, a manor belonging to the earl of Winchester, not far from Leicester, the countess, wife of the said earl, and daughter of the earl of Hereford. Dying young, she left no offspring by the earl, as was also the case with his former wife, the daughter of Alan of Galway, who died previously, leav
=== Sir Robert de Quincy, born before 1200, was the younger of two sons called Robert born to Saher de Quincy, the Magna Carta surety, and his wife Margaret de Beaumont.
He was the second husband of Elen "the Elder" ferch Llewlyn, daughter of Llewelyn the Great.
They had 3 daughters:
* Joan, wife of Sir Humphrey de Bohun VI
* Hawise, wife of Sir Baldwin Wake
* Anne, a nun.
In 1254, Sir Robert was granted an annual fair for his manor in Ware, Hertfordshire. He died at a tournament in Blie in August 1257.
== Sources ==
*'''"Royal Ancestry" Douglas Richardson 2013 Vol. V. p. 302'''
* ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families'',by Douglas Richardson, 1st edn. 2005
* Plantagenet Ancestry p. 96, 99
* The Battle Abbey Roll vol 3 p. 48-49
* Lipscomb's Buckinghamshire vol 4 p. 126
* Hist and Antiquities of Beverley Oliver p. 462
* Dict of Nat'l Biog. vol 47 p. 115, vol 23 p. 388.
* Baker's Nrthmp vol 1 p. 121, 544, 563
* Clutterbuck's Hrfrds vol 3 p. 287
* Dugdale's Baronage of England vol 1 p. 688
* Complete Peerage vol VII, p. 520, 677 (942 D24c)
* Eng V Vol VII p. 520, 670, 677
* Complete Peerage 942 D24c* Chauncy, Henry. ''[[Space:The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire|The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire]]'' (J.M. Mullinger, London, 1826) [https://books.google.com/books?id=AhUHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA398 Vol. 1, Page 398]* Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650, 6th ed. Weis, Frederick Lewis. Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD, 1988.* [http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p134.htm#i4025 Marlyn Lewis].* Ancestry Family Trees (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com) Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. ::* http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=16746257&pid=2299.::* http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=6601291&pid=1323166022.
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{See "Dictionnaire de la Noblesse," Paris, 1873, Vol. 18, p. 834.} Roger was Constable of Scotland and second Earl Winchester (1235, in the absence of his elder brother, Robert). He was heir of his mother at her death. His three daughters divided his estate.
=== 2nd Earl of Winchester, Constable of Sco ===
2nd Earl of Winchester, Constable of Scotland,
=== Wikipedia Biography ===
Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester (c.1195 – 25 April 1264),) hereditary Constable of Scotland, was a nobleman of Anglo-Norman and Scottish descent who was prominent in both England and Scotland, at his death having one of the largest baronial landholdings in the two kingdoms.
The de Quincy family, originating from the village of Cuinchy in Artois, had been prominent in England and Scotland from about 1130. Roger, second son and eventual heir of Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester, and his wife Margaret, younger daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester, probably joined his father on the Fifth Crusade, during which the elder de Quincy fell sick in Egypt and died. Since Roger's older brother Robert had died a few years earlier, he inherited his father's estates on his return, but was not recognised as earl until his mother died in 1235.
Career
He married a major heiress, Helen of Galloway, the eldest of the three daughters of Alan, Lord of Galloway. On her father's death in 1234, he acquired her share of the paternal inheritance, which consisted of the hereditary office of Constable of Scotland and one-third of the lordship of Galloway. The title of Lord of Galloway, however, went through Helen's half-sister Devorguilla to her husband John Balliol.
In 1235 the Galwegians rebelled under Gille Ruadh, not wanting their land divided, but the rebellion was suppressed by King Alexander II of Scotland. The Galwegians revolted again in 1246, following the death without children of Helen's sister Christina, first wife of William de Forz, 4th Earl of Aumale. Further unrest in 1247, possibly due to his strict rule, found de Quincy trapped in a castle, from which he escaped to obtain help from King Alexander in suppressing the rebellion. Although actively managing his lands in Scotland, despite being Constable after this time he seems to have had little further involvement in Scotland's politics and wars.
In England he also steered clear of politics initially but was gradually drawn into the baronial opposition to the rule of King Henry III, He joined with other nobles in 1239 and 1246 in written remonstrances to the Pope about papal interference in English affairs. In 1258, he was elected by the barons to the twelve-member commission charged with overseeing the revised constitution of the Provisions of Oxford and was appointed also to the committee to arrange the financial aid promised to Henry. In 1259 he led a delegation to St Omer that forbade the King's brother Richard, Earl of Cornwall from returning to England unless he swore to observe the Provisions of Oxford. After this de Quincy played little part in national affairs.
He died aged about 69 on 25 April 1264, eighteen days after the outbreak of civil war, and was buried at Brackley. Having no male heir, the earldom of Winchester became extinct and his estates were divided between the husbands of his three daughters.
Family
He married three times, leaving three daughters from his first marriage to Helen of Galloway:
1. Margaret (or Margery), who married William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby;
2. Elizabeth (or Isabel), who married Alexander Comyn, 2nd Earl of Buchan;
3. Helen, who married Alan de la Zouche.
His second marriage was in about 1250 to Maud de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford, who died in 1252.
Thirdly, in 1252, he married Eleanor de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby.
Neither of these marriages produced any children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Quincy,_2nd_Earl_of_Winchester
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!2nd Earl of Winchester. Constable of Scotland.
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Roger de Quincy (his elder brother, Robert, being still in the HolyLand ), had livery of his father's estates and he subsequently s. tothe Earld om of Winchester. This nobleman marrying Helen, eldest dau.and co-he ir of Alan, Lord of Galloway, became, in her right,constable of Scotlan d. By this lady he had issue, Margaret,Elizabeth, and Ela, m. to Alan, Lo rd Zouch, of Ashby.
His lordship m. 2ndly, Maud, dau. of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl ofHereford ( widow of Anselme Mareschall, Earl of Pembroke), and 3rdly,Alianore, da u. of William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby, and widow ofWilliam de Vaux (th is lady survived the earl and m. after hisdecease, Roger de Leybourne). D ugdale says that the earl had anotherdau., but by which wife he could n ot discover, namely, Isabell, withwhom a contract of marriage was mad e, by John, son of Hugh de Nevil,for his son, Hugh.
His lordship d. in 1264, when the Earldom of Winchester becameextinct, a nd his great landed possessions devolved upon his daus., asco-heiresse s. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited andExtinct Peerages, B urke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p.447, Quincy, Earls of Winc hester][3198027.ged]
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Roger de Quincy, d. 25 Apr 1264, 2nd Earl of Winchester, Constable ofScotland; m. (1) Helen of Galloway. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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Roger (DE QUENCY), 2nd EARL OF WINCHESTER, CONSTABLE OF SCOTLAND, byhis 1st wife, Helen, 2nd but 1st surviving daughter and coheir ofAlan, LORD OF GALLOWAY, CONSTABLE OF SCOTLAND. [Complete Peerage]
Robert d. in the Holy Land, leaving issue by his wife, Hawyse, dau. ofHu gh Keveliok, Earl of Chester, an only dau., Margaret, who m. 1st,Jo hn de Lacie, Earl of Lincoln, and 2ndly, Walter, Earl of Pembroke.[Sir Be rnard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages,Burke's Pee rage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 447, Quincy, Earlsof Winchester]
Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester (1195? ? 25 April 1264) was a medieval nobleman who was prominent on both sides of the Anglo-Scottish border, as Earl of Winchester and Constable of Scotland.
He was the second son of Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester, and Margaret de Beaumont.
He probably joined his father on the Fifth Crusade in 1219, where the elder de Quincy fell sick and died. His elder brother having died a few years earlier, Roger thus inherited his father's titles and properties. However, he did not take possession of his father's lands until February 1221, probably because he did not return to England from the crusade until then. He did not formally become earl until after the death of his mother in 1235.
Roger married Helen of Galloway (b.c1208), eldest daughter and co-heiress of Alan, Lord of Galloway. Without legitimate sons to succeed him, Alan's lands and dignities were divided between the husbands of his three daughters, so Roger acquired Alan's position as Constable of Scotland, and one-third of the lordship of Galloway (although the actual title of Lord of Galloway went through Helen's half-sister Devorguilla to her husband John I de Balliol), and part of the de Morville lands in Lauderdale.
The Galwegians rebelled under Gille Ruadh, not wanting their land divided, but the rebellion was suppressed by Alexander II of Scotland. Roger ruled his portion of Galloway strictly, and the Galwegians revolted again in 1247, forcing Roger to take refuge in a castle. Faced with a siege and little chance of relief, Roger and a few men fought their way out and rode off to seek help from Alexander, who raised forces to again suppress the rebellion.
In the following years Roger was one of the leaders of the baronial opposition to Henry III of England, although he fought for Henry against the Welsh in the 1250s and 1260s.
Following Ellen's death in 1245, Roger married Maud de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford, around 1250. Maud died only two years later, and Roger married his third wife, Eleanor de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby the same year.
From the collection of Jerry Dean Ferren.
=== Roger was an Earl of Winchester. ===
Roger was an Earl of Winchester.
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(b) Randolph, Earl of Chester and Lincoln {d. s.p., in Oct. 1232), by charter conveyed to his sister, Hawise, widow of Robert de Qucncy (or Quincy), the county or the Earldom of Lincoln.
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=== Royal Ancestry Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“Children of Saher de Quincy, Knt., by Margaret of Leicester:
i. ROBERT DE QUINCY, son and heir apparent. He married c.1197-1200 (date of charter) HAWISE OF CHESTER, suo jure Countess of Lincoln, daughter of Hugh, Earl of Chester, by Bertrade, daughter of Simon de Montfort, Count of Evreux [see CHESTER 5 for her ancestry]. She was born in 1180. She had 10 librates of land in Waddington, land in Sibsey, and the service of three fees in Cabourn in marriage. They had one daughter, Margaret (or Margery). He and his father were captured at the Battle of Lincoln 20 May 1217. ROBERT DE QUINCY died at London in 1217, and was buried at the Church of the Hospitallers, Clerkenwell, Middlesex. In the period, 1217-19, his widow, Hawise, granted a rent to the brethren of the Hospital of Jerusalem in England for the foundation of a chantry at the Hospitallers' house at Clerkenwell, Middlesex, for the soul of her husband, Robert. About 1230-1 his widow, Hawise, received a charter from her brother, Ranulph, Earl of Chester and Lincoln, purporting to convey to her the Earldom of Lincoln. On 27 October 1232, shortly after Ranulph's death, the King granted the 3rd penny of the county of Lincoln to Hawise as the Earl's sister and co-heiress, in consequence of which grant she may be held to have become the Countess of Lincoln. On the preliminary division of the honour of Chester, she received the castle and manor of Bolingbroke, Lincolnshire, with the Earl's lands in Lindsey and Holland. As Hawise, Countess of Lincoln, she presented to the churches of Toynton All Saints, Lincolnshire, 1235, 1237; Little Steeping, Lincolnshire, 1235; a mediety of Toynton St. Peter, Lincolnshire, 1237; and Winceby, Lincolnshire, 1233, ?1246-7. In 1241 she sued Amabel, widow of Richard Rufus, in a plea of dower in Northamptonshire. Hawise de Quincy, Countess of Lincoln, died shortly before 19 Feb. 1242/3. Brooke Cat. Kings, Dukes, etc., of England (1622): 342. Bridges Hist. & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 544-545. Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 6 (1807): 134-135. Ormerod Hist. of Chester 1 (1819): 28. Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 1 (1822-30): 563 (Beaumont-Quincy ped.). Burke Dict. of the Peerages... Extinct, Dormant & in Abeyance (1831): 442-443 (sub Quincy). Coll. Top. et Gen. 2 (1835): 247-249. Giles Chronicon Anglia Petributgense (1845): 136 (sub A.D. 1241: "Obiit domina Hawisia Quincy, comitissa Lincolniæ"). Top. & Gen. 1 (1846): 316, 320 (charter and seal of Hawise de Quincy, Countess of Lincoln). Mems. Ill of the Hist. & Antiqs. of Lincoln (1850): 253-279, esp. 271-272 ("The Seal of the Countess Hawise exists in an imperfect impression in the British Museum. The circular device in the centre is slightly sunk, and it was possibly a large antique intaglio, set into the matrix. Above and below, is placed a mascle, the armorial bearing of Quency, her husband's family."). Luard Annales Monastici 2 (Rolls Ser. 36) (1865): 289 (Annals of Waverley sub A.D. 1217: "Obiit Robertus de Quinci filius Secri de Quinci"). Ellis Antiqs. of Heraldry (1869): 195-196. Leycester & Mainwaring Tracts written in the Controversy respecting the Legitimacy of Amicia, daughter of Hugh Cyveliok, Earl of Chester 3 (Chetham Soc. 80) (1869): 334-335. Fraser Registrum Monasterii S. Marie de Cambuskenneth, AD. 1147-1535 (1872): 91-94. Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 35 (1874): 8. Fourth Rpt. (Hist. MSS Comm. 3) (1874): 460. Stubbs Historical Works of Gervase of Canterbury 2 (Rolls Ser. 73) (1880): 110-111. Ormerod Hist. of the County Palatine & City of Chester 1 (1882): 26-33. Maitland Bracton's Note Book 3 (1887): 280-283. Fry & Fry Abs. of Feet of Fines Rel. Dorset 1 (Dorset Rec. Soc. 5) (1896): 151-152. Dowden Chartulary of the Abbey of Lindores 1195-1479 (Scottish Hist. Soc. 42) (1903): 276-277. Wrottesley Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 531-532. C.P.R. 1232-1247 (1906): 3. Lindsay et al. Charters, Bulls & Other Docs. Rel. the Abbey of Inchaffrray (Scottish Hist. Soc. 56) (1908): lxxxvi-lxxxix, 245 (Robert styled "eldest son" in charter of his father). D.N.B. 16 (1909): 556-559 (biog. of Saer de Quincy). C.P. 3 (1913): 169, footnote a; 7 (1929): 675-676 (sub Lincoln); 12(2) (1959): 748 footnote g, 751 (sub Winchester); 14 (1998): 436 (sub Lincoln). Turner Cal. Feet of Fines Rel. Huntingdon (Cambridge Antiq. Soc. 8° Ser. 37) (1913): 15. Davis Rotuli Hugonis de Welles Episcopi Lincolniensis 1209-1235 3 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 9) (1914): 211. Grosseteste Rotuli Roberti Grosseteste Episcopi Lincolniensis (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 11) (1914): 9, 11, 17, 23, 44, 87. Farrer Early Yorkshire Charters 2 (1915): 195 (chart). C.C.R. 1242-1247 (1916): 89, 271. Fowler Cal IPM 1 (Bedfordshire Hist. Rec. Soc. 5) (1920): 235-238. Farrer Feudal Cambridgeshire (1920): 96, 247-248. Farrer Honors & Knights' Fees 2 (1924): 10-11, 96-99. Farnham Leicestershire Medieval Peds. (1925): 11 (ped. of Earls of Chester). Easson Charters of the Abbey of Coupar-Angus 1 (Scottish Hist. Soc. 3rd Ser. 40) (1947): 3 (confuses Robert de Quincy, died 1217, with his grandfather, Robert de Quincy, died 1200). Hatton Book of Seals (1950): 79. Major Registrum Antiquissimum of the Cathedral Church of Lincoln 6 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 41) (1950): 44. Medievalia et Humanistica 11(1957): 3-10. Paget Baronage of England (1957) 464: 1-8 (sub Quincy). Sanders English Baronies (1960): 18, 32-33. Painter Feudalism & Liberty (1961): 230-239 (assigns Robert de Quincy the wrong parentage). VCH Lancaster 1 (1906): 306. Duchy of Lancaster 3 (PRO Lists and Indexes, Supp. Ser. 5) (1964): 73, 82, 101. Tremlett Rolls of Arms Heng III (H.S.P 113-4) (1967): 19 (Matthew Paris shields - arms of Robert de Quincy: Gules, seven voided lozenges conjoined or). Curia Regis Rolls 15 (1972): 162-163, 282, 287, 365-366, 419, 439, 498-499; 16 (1979): 411; 17 (1991): 150, 407-408; 18 (1999): 301. VCH Cambridge 5 (1973): 200-201 ("Hawise's husband was Robert son of Saber and not... a younger brother of Saber called Robert, otherwise unknown;" cities Hardy Rotuli Litterarum Clausarum 1 (1833): 342; Duchy of Lancaster 3 (PRO Lists and Indexes, Supp. Ser. 5) (1964): 82.). TG 5 (1984): 221-225. Barraclough Charters of the Earls of Chester (Lanc. & Cheshire Rec. Soc. 126) (1988): 209, 302, 305-309, 309-310 (Lady Hawise de Quincy styled "my dearest sister" [sorori mee karissimel by Ranulph, Earl of Chester and Lincoln in charter dated 1232), 441-442. Cooper Oxfordshire Eyre 1241 (Oxfordshire Rec. Soc. 56) (1989): 22. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln n.s. 3(4) (1989): 708 (sub Quency). Anderson Early Sources of Scottish Hist. 2 (1990): 488 (Chron. of Peterborough sub anno 1232: "Also in the same year, or in the following year according to some, Randolph, the earl of Chester and lord of Bolingbroke, died at his castle of Wallingford... He was exceedingly renowned and famous in the whole kingdom. And because he had no children, his heritage was divided among his four sisters; namely Matilda, the wife of earl David; Mabel, the wife of the earl of Arundel; and Agnes, the wife of earl William de Ferrieres; and Hawisia, who married Robert Quincey, the earl of Winchester. And Hawisia Quincey, the fourth sister of Randolph, acquired the earldom of Lincoln. And she bore a daughter, Margaret, [wife of Walter] Marshal, earl of Pembroke; upon whose death she married John de Lacy, the constable of Chester: and his son was Edmund Lacy, whose son was Henry Lacy, whose daughter and heir was Alice de Lacy, who died in the year of the Lord 1349."), 488 footnote 4 (cites Chron. of Peterborough, 136, sub anno 1241: "Lady Hawisia Quincey, the countess of Lincoln, died"). Owen Medieval Lindsey Marsh (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 85) (1996): 88-89 (charter of Hawise de Quincy, Countess of Lincoln dated 1240). Haskins Society Jour. 10 (2002): 171-172 (discusses charters dated c.1200 concerning the marriage of Robert and Hawise).
Child of Robert de Quincy, by Hawise of Chester:
a. MARGARET (or MARGERY) DE QUINCY, married (1st) JOHN DE LACY (also known as JOHN OF CHESTER), Knt., Earl of Lincoln, hereditary Constable of Chester, Magna Carta baron [see LACY 31; (2nd) WALTER MARSHAL, Knt., Earl of Pembroke, hereditary Master Marshal [see LACY 3; MARSHAL 3.iv].”
=== [royality1.FTW] Earl of Winchester ===
[royality1.FTW] Earl of Winchester
=== !SOURCES: Ancestral Roots; pgs. 69 & 70 ===
!SOURCES: Ancestral Roots; pgs. 69 & 70 Magna Charta; pgs. 88, 1628, 1974, 43, 186 & 1992 Cokayne; Vol 7 pg. 532 Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists by Weis; Royal Ancestors of Magna Charta Barons by Collins; pg. 129 NOTES: 2nd Earl of Winchester Sirname also spelled QUINCY
Preferred Parents:
Father: Saher de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester, b. 1155 in Buckley, Lancashire, England d. 3 NOV 1219 in Damietta, Egypt killed 5th Crusade
Mother: Margaret de Beaumont Countess of Winchester, b. ABT 1154 in Leicestershire, England d. 12 JAN 1235 in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England
Family 1: Helen de Galloway , b. in Carrick, Ayrshire, Scotland d. 21 NOV 1245 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland
- m. ABT 1217
- m. 1217 in Winchester, Hampshire, England
- Elizabeth de Quincy, b. ABT 1220 d. 12 APR 1282 in Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
- Helen de Quincy of Winchester, b. 22 DEC 1214 in Winchester, Hampshire, England d. 27 AUG 1296 in East Leicester, Leicestershire, England
- Margaret de Quincy Countess of Derby, b. 1198 in Winchester, Hampshire, England d. 12 MAR 1244 in Clerkenwell, London, England, United Kingdom
Family 2: Eleanor de Ferrers - Countess of Winchester, b. 1236 in Derbyshire, England d. 2 NOV 1274 in Elham, Kent, England
Family 3: Maud de Bohun, b. 1230 in Herefordshire, England d. 20 OCT 1252 in Groby, Leicestershire, England
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Author: Dictionary of National Biography, pg. 386-388
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Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2B-9QZ7 : 11 June 2020), 2nd Earl of Winchester, 1264; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
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Author: Quincy Earls of Winchester in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~ http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL2.htm#_Toc21106970
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL2.htm#_Toc21106970;
Note: ELLEN de Quincy (-before 20 Aug 1296). The Annales Londonienses name "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as the three daughters of "Eleyn countesse de Wynton", naming "Roger la Zusche" as son of "Eleyne la Zusche" and "de Roger, Aleyn"[102]. A charter dated 3 Dec 1274 records the homage of "Elena la Zusche another daughter and heir of Roger [de Quency earl of Wynton]" for her part of the lands "lately held in dower by Alianora de Vaux late countess of Wynton widow of the said Roger"[103]. Inquisitions after a writ 20 Aug "24 Edw I", following the death of "Elena la Zousche...", name “Alan la Suches [...son of Sir Roger de la Suche] aged 24 [...and more...aged 28 at the feast of St. Giles last] is her next heir” and record “Oliver la Suches” doing the service of 1 knight in Disard, Strahon and Lokeris, Fifeshire[104]. m ALAN [II] la Zouche [Justiciar of Ireland], son of ROGER [I] la Zouche & his wife Margaret...
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- Title: Roger de Quincy in The Medieval Lands Project, "ROGER de Quincy"
Author: fmg.ac
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL2.htm#RogerQuincyWinchesterdied1264;
Note: ROGER de Quincy (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley]). "Seyerus de Quinci comes Wintonie" donated revenue from "molendino meo de Locres" to St Andrew´s priory, with the consent of "Rogeri filii et heredis mei", by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Rogero de Quinci herede meo, Simone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii…Simonis de Quinci"[76]. "Rogerus de Quinci filius Seyeri comitis Wintonie" confirmed his father´s donation of a mill to St Andrew´s priory by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Dño Seyero patre meo comite Wintonie, Symone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii…Gilleberto clerico, Symonis de Quinci, Henrico clerico, Symonis de Quinci"[77]. He succeeded his father in 1219 as Earl of Winchester, but was not recognised as such until after his mother's death[78]. "Rogerius de Quinci" confirmed donations of land "in territorio de Gasc", where the men of "domini patris mei comitis Wintonie" pastured animals, to Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1220], witnessed by "Gilberto comite de Stratherne, Roberto et Fergus filiis suis…"[79]. He succeeded his father-in-law in 1234 as hereditary Constable of Scotland, de iure uxoris. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[80]. "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et…Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[81]. John of Fordun´s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death in 1264 of "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wincestriæ"[82]. An undated writ "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency earl of Winchester", records that he died "on the day of St Mark the Evangelist" and names "Henry de Lascy aged 14 on the day of the Epiphany next, is his heir"[83]. Another writ dated 2 Nov "55 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency alias de Quinsy sometime earl of Winchester", records further details about his landholdings[84]. His earldom reverted to the crown on his death. m firstly ELLEN of Galloway, daughter of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his [first/second wife --- de Lacy/--- of the Isles] (-after 21 Nov 1245, bur Brackley). The Annales Londonienses name "Eleyn countesse de Wynton" as eldest of the three daughters of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei", naming "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as her three daughters[85]. Earl Roger's first marriage with the daughter of Alan of Galloway is recorded by Matthew Paris[86]. The Liber Pluscardensis records that the eldest daughter of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway" married "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wintoniæ"[87]. "Elena quondam filia Alani de Galeweya" donated "villam de Edeluestune" to the church of Glasgow by undated charter[88]. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[89]. m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as her second husband, MATILDA de Bohun, widow of ANSELM Marshal Earl of Pembroke, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his wife Mathilde de Lusignan (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley80). A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm´s lands"[90]. Her death is recorded by Matthew Paris, who states that she was daughter of the Earl of Hereford but does not give her own name, that she was her husband's second wife[91]. m thirdly (before 5 Dec 1252) as her second husband, ELEANOR Ferrers, widow of WILLIAM de Vaux, daughter of WILLIAM de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his first wife Sibyl Marshal of Pembroke (-before 20 Oct 1274, bur Leeds Priory). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Agnes, secunda Isabella, tertia Matilda, quarta Sibilla, quinta Johanna, sexta Alianora, septima Agatha" as the seven daughters of "Willielmo de Ferrers comiti Derbiæ" and his wife "quarta filia…Willihelmi Marescalli…Sibilla", adding that "Alianora sexta filia" was "comitissa de Wintonia" and died childless[92]. A charter dated 26 May 1250 records the restoration of property, granted to "Margaret Countess of Lincoln", to "William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, William de Fortibus and Matilda his wife, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king´s custody, Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife, and William de Cantilupe and Eva his wife"[93]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the Annals of Ireland which record that “Sibilla comitissa de Ferreys” had seven daughters (in order) “quinta, Elianora de Varis, quæ fuit uxor comitis Wintonie…”[94]. Matthew Paris records her husband's remarriage soon after the death of his second wife, but does not name his third wife[95]. "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et…Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[96]. She married thirdly (1267) as his second wife, Roger de Leyburn. King Edward I ordered the the escheator of Ireland to take all the lands of the deceased "Alianora widow of Roger de Quency earl of Winchester" into the hands of the king by charter dated 25 Oct 1274[97]. Earl Roger & his first wife had three children:(Margaret, Ellen and Elizabeth).
- Title: Some Ferrers, Earls of Derby in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Note: Some Ferrers, Earls of Derby in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Some Ferrers, Earls of Derby in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Ellen of GALLOWAY in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672002;
Note: GALLOWAY in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
ELLEN of Galloway ([before 1205]-after 21 Nov 1245, bur Brackley). The Annales Londonienses name "Eleyn countesse de Wynton" as eldest of the three daughters of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei", naming "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as her three daughters[1194]. It is assumed that she was not born from Alan’s marriage to Margaret of Huntingdon as her descendants did not raise a claim to the Scottish throne in 1291. This is consistent with the date of marriage of one of her daughters being estimated to [1238]. The identity of Ellen’s mother as her father’s first wife is confirmed by her husband Roger de Quincy holding Kippax (linked to Alan’s first wife as shown above)[1195]. Ellen’s birth and marriage dates are estimated from her daughter who married in [1238] having given birth soon after that marriage. The Liber Pluscardensis records that the eldest daughter of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway" married "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wintoniæ"[1196]. "Elena quondam filia Alani de Galeweya" donated "villam de Edeluestune" to the church of Glasgow by undated charter[1197]. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[1198]. m ([before 1223]) as his first wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, maybe bur Brackley). He is named son-in-law of Alan of Galloway by Matthew Paris, who does not name his wife[1199] but says in a later passage that she was "primogenita soror"[1200]. He succeeded his father-in-law in 1234 as hereditary Constable of Scotland, de iure uxoris.
Page: GALLOWAY in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672002 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Alan, Lord of Galloway, and daughters in Caledonia or a Historical and Topographical Account of North Britain, Vol. 2, pg. 636-637 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Caledonia or a Historical and Topographical Account of North Britain, Vol. 2, pg. 636-637
Note: Alan, Lord of Galloway, and daughters in Caledonia or a Historical and Topographical Account of North Britain, Vol. 2, pg. 636-637 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Alan, Lord of Galloway, and daughters in Caledonia or a Historical and Topographical Account of North Britain, Vol. 2, pg. 636-637 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Wikipedia, "Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester"
Author: Wikipedia.org
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Quincy%2C_2nd_Earl_of_Winchester;
Note: Biography.
- Title: Alan, Lord of Galloway, in The Magna Charta Sureties, Line 139, pg. 177 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: The Magna Charta Sureties, Line 139, pg. 177
Note: Alan, Lord of Galloway, in The Magna Charta Sureties, Line 139, pg. 177 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Alan, Lord of Galloway, in The Magna Charta Sureties, Line 139, pg. 177 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Alan, Lord of Galloway, in Early Sources of Scottish History, Vol. 2, pgs. 157, 347, 352, 374, 383, 392, 420, 437, 459, 464-65, 467-68, 478, 488, 492-94, 498 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Early Sources of Scottish History, Vol. 2, pgs. 157, 347, 352, 374, 383, 392, 420, 437, 459, 464-65, 467-68, 478, 488, 492-94, 498
Note: Alan, Lord of Galloway, in Early Sources of Scottish History, Vol. 2, pgs. 157, 347, 352, 374, 383, 392, 420, 437, 459, 464-65, 467-68, 478, 488, 492-94, 498 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Alan, Lord of Galloway, in Early Sources of Scottish History, Vol. 2, pgs. 157, 347, 352, 374, 383, 392, 420, 437, 459, 464-65, 467-68, 478, 488, 492-94, 498 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester. Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Quincy,_2nd_Earl_of_Winchester;
Note: Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester (c.1195 – 25 April 1264), was hereditary Constable of Scotland. Roger, second son was eventual heir of Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester, and his wife Margaret. He married a major heiress, Helen of Galloway, the eldest of the three daughters of Alan, Lord of Galloway. On her father's death in 1234, he acquired her share of the paternal inheritance, which consisted of the hereditary office of Constable of Scotland and one-third of the lordship of Galloway. He married three times, leaving three daughters from his first marriage to Helen of Galloway:
Margaret (or Margery), who married William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby;
Elizabeth (or Isabel), who married Alexander Comyn, 2nd Earl of Buchan;
Helen, who married Alan de la Zouche.
His second marriage was in about 1250 to Maud de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford, who died in 1252. Thirdly, in 1252, he married Eleanor de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby. Neither of these marriages produced any children.
He died aged about 69 on 25 April 1264, eighteen days after the outbreak of civil war, and was buried at Brackley. Having no male heir, the earldom of Winchester became extinct and his estates were divided among the husbands of his three daughters.
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- Title: Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester, in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 3, pg. 48-49 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 3, pg. 48-49
Note: Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester, in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 3, pg. 48-49 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester, in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 3, pg. 48-49 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, from Cokayne's Complete Peerage, Vol. 3, page 66 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Cokayne's Complete Peerage, Vol. 3, page 66
Note: William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, from Cokayne's Complete Peerage, Vol. 3, page 66 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, from Cokayne's Complete Peerage, Vol. 3, page 66 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: William de Ferrers, 5th or 7th Earl of Derby, in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 197 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 197
Note: William de Ferrers, 5th or 7th Earl of Derby, in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 197 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: William de Ferrers, 5th or 7th Earl of Derby, in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 197 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Ferrers family members in The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster, Vol. 1, pg. 47-48 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster, Vol. 1, pg. 47-48
Note: Ferrers family members in The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster, Vol. 1, pg. 47-48 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Ferrers family members in The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster, Vol. 1, pg. 47-48 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester - Westminster Abbey
Author: Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester, constable of Scotland, was a benefactor to the building of Henry III's new Gothic Westminster Abbey, begun in 1245. His carved shield still remains in the south choir aisle bearing the coat of arms: "gules, seven voided lozenges or". He was a son of Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester and his wife Margaret de Breteuil, and may have gone on crusade with his father. Henry III appointed him to arbitrate between Alexander III of Scotland and leaders of various factions there. His first wife was Helen daughter of the Lord of Galloway and they had three daughters Margaret, Elizabeth and Helen. His second wife was Maud de Bohun and his third Eleanor de Ferrers. He died on 25th April 1264 and his title lapsed. He is not buried at the Abbey.
Publication: Name: https://www.westminster-abbey.org/abbey-commemorations/commemorations/roger-de-quincy-earl-of-winchester;
- Title: Galloway family in The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pgs. 135-143
Author: The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pgs. 135-143 [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: https://www.electricscotland.com/books/pdf/ScotsPeerageVol4.pdf;
Note: Galloway family in The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pgs. 142
Elena married Roger de Quincy who in her right became the Constable of Scotland and was made Earl of Winchester in 1235. He died 35 April 1264 leaving 3 daughters as heirs: Margaret (Agnes) married William Earl of Ferrers & Derby
Elizabeth (Isabella or Marjory) married Alexander Comyn
Elena married Alan la Zouche who died before 20 Aug 1296
Page: Galloway family in The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pgs. 135-143 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Roger de Quincy, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVG9-QWPC : 10 May 2023), Roger de Quincy, ; Burial, Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England, St. Peter's Churchyard; citing record ID 112465137, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVG9-QWPC;
Note: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112465137/roger-de_quincy
Sir Roger de Quincy
BIRTH 1200 Winchester, City of Winchester, Hampshire, England
DEATH 25 Apr 1264 (aged 63–64) England
BURIAL St. Peter's Churchyard
Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England
MEMORIAL ID 112465137
2nd Earl of Winchester, Knight In right of his wife, hereditary Constable of Scotland. 2nd but eldest surviving son and heir to Saher de Quincy and Margaret de Beaumont. Husband of Helen (Ellen) Galloway, the 2nd but eldest surviving daughter of Alan FitzRoland, Lord of Galloway and Margaret de Huntingdon. Helen of Galloway died after 21 Nov 1245, and Roger married a second time to Maud de Bohun, the daughter of Sir Humphrey de Bohun and Maud d'Exoudun, the widow of Anslem Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, who died in 1245. They were married before 12 June 1250, and had no issue. Maud died at Groby, Leicestershire 20 Oct 1252, and was buried at Brackley. Roger married a third time to Eleanor de Ferrers, the daughter of Sir William Ferrers, Earl of Derby, and Sibyl Marshal, the daughter of Sir William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They married shortly before 17 Jan 1253 and had no issue. Roger was possibly on the Crusade at Damietta when his father died in 1219. His older brother, Robert, had died two years before, and Roger returned home to pay homage and receive his father's titles and properties. By 1222 he was in Poitou with the King's army. Roger received the title of Earl of Winchester at his mother's death in 1235.
- Title: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 57
Note: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Helen de Galloway and Roger de Quincy in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 38 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 38
Note: Helen de Galloway and Roger de Quincy in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 38 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Helen de Galloway and Roger de Quincy in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 38 [See document in the Memories section]
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