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Guy de Bryan IV of Walwyns Castle
- Preferred Name: Guy de Bryan IV of Walwyns Castle[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
- Gender: M
- Nationality: Dubiously claimed to be a descendent of High King of Ireland, Brian Boru, 1002
- Death: 1268 in Haverfordwest St Mary, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.8002 LONG: E4.9705
- Occupation: Governor of Carmarthen and Cardigan Castles, Wales
- +: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-de-Brian-of-Walwyn-s-Castle/6000000001276090552?through=6000000000424760140
- FSID: GCYT-9WW
- Birth: 1222 in Laughame, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.8611 LONG: E4.9229
- +: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/projects/O-Brien-O-Bryan-Brien-Bryan-Family/46004
- +: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-de-Brian-of-Walwyn-s-Castle/6000000001276090552?through=6000000007403780432
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Biography
Guy received a grant from King Henry III to hold a yearly fair at his manor of Talachar, the former name of Laugharne, (1247). Guy had acquired Laugharne Castle (Carmarthenshire) by 1247, and also Walwyn's Castle (Pembrokeshire). He rebuilt Laugharne Castle which was then in a bad state of repair.
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sir, Guy Bryan, Gov of Carmarthen & Cardingan Castles (appointed by the Rebellous Barons 1264)
s/o
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m- 1-Eve Tracy, Heiress
m- 2- bef 1283 Joan
d- 1306 /07 -
1265 - incharge of Kilgarn Castle
1266 - returned his alligence to the King
=== 2 SOUR S003611 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of ===
2 SOUR S003611 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jul 1, 2002 2 SOUR S003691 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Aug 26, 2002 2 SOUR S003692 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Aug 27, 2002 2 SOUR S003758 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Aug 27, 2002 2 SOUR S229184 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Dec 3, 2002 [2 Bryan Thomas.ged] Baron Guy DE BRIENNE . Baron Guy de Brienne, Brion, Brian, or Bryan. In the wars, 1244-1266.[L Hays 8-27-02.FTW] [Louisa Hays 17.ged] Baron Guy DE BRIENNE . Baron Guy de Brienne, Brion, Brian, or Bryan. In the wars, 1244-1266.[Louisa Hays 18.ged] Baron Guy DE BRIENNE . Baron Guy de Brienne, Brion, Brian, or Bryan. In the wars, 1244-1266.[Corrie Hale Families 11-18-02.FTW] [2 Bryan Thomas.ged] Baron Guy DE BRIENNE . Baron Guy de Brienne, Brion, Brian, or Bryan. In the wars, 1244-1266.[L Hays 8-27-02.FTW] [Louisa Hays 17.ged] Baron Guy DE BRIENNE . Baron Guy de Brienne, Brion, Brian, or Bryan. In the wars, 1244-1266.[Louisa Hays 18.ged] Baron Guy DE BRIENNE . Baron Guy de Brienne, Brion, Brian, or Bryan. In the wars, 1244-1266. !NOTE: 2 Bryan Thomas.ged;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. Date of Import: !NOTE: Louisa Hays 17.ged;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. Date of Import: !NOTE: Louisa Hays 18.ged;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. Date of Import: !NOTE: L Hays 8-27-02.FTW;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. Date of Import: !NOTE: Corrie Hale Families 11-18-02.FTW;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. !NOTE: GEDCOM File : Corrie Hale Families 12-4-02.ged !BIRTH: 2 Bryan Thomas.ged;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. Date of Import: !BIRTH: Louisa Hays 17.ged;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. Date of Import: !BIRTH: Louisa Hays 18.ged;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. Date of Import: !BIRTH: L Hays 8-27-02.FTW;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. Date of Import: !BIRTH: Corrie Hale Families 11-18-02.FTW;;;;, Source Media Type: Other. !MARRIAGE: GEDCOM File : Corrie Hale Families 12-4-02.ged
=== Name Suffix: Baron Ancestral File ===
Name Suffix: Baron Ancestral File Number: KBBB-97
=== THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 ===
THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T); SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GSNUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.48;
=== In the wars of 1244-1266 ===
In the wars of 1244-1266
=== ! According to David McMurtry and Micha ===
! According to David McMurtry and Michael Kallem, authors of Book One of the Bryan Scroll, there is almost no information about this Guy de Brienne. He is thought to be the first de Brienne in England (Wales), having come from France. As such he would be the 4th. Guy, but would properly be called Guy de Brienne,I, in English Records. He was probably born in France in about 1200, and was known to have been a contemporary of Henry de Tracy(1202-1274). He was reared for a military career, which was befitting to his status of being a "lackland knight adventurer", or a knight without inherited lands or title. This de Brienne was the first to be identified by name in the records of England. The primary seat of the early family in the British Isles appears to have been in southern Wales.... there were five generations in Pembrokeshire, Wales, and Devonshire, England. The family is especially associated with a place named for the de Brienne family. Torrebriene, or Tor Bryan, is a geographic place name in Devon, southwest England. In Abstracts of English Records...." Torbryan" was a parish, rural deanery of Moreton, archdeaconary of Totnes and diocese of Exeter. Also connected with this site is Talacharn, or Talagharne Castle, across the narrow body of water, in Wales. How ? and Why ?...Guy de Brienne came to, and settled in Wales and England can only be surmised. It is known that at about this time there were other Norman baronial families settling in this territory that was often hotly contested over by these newcommers, who also fought with the Welsh inhabitants. King William Rufus, son of William "the Conqueror", set in motion, during his reign (from 1087 to 1100) a "System of Lord Marcher's Conquest ". In this feudal system of government, the King considered himself the owner of all the land, and gave authority to any "adventurer knight", who had the "enterprise" to seize any "obnoxious district" in the King's name and possess it as a fiefdom of his own. Its speculate d, this willingness to resettle and claim a region by force of arms AND with the blessing of the King was one way that landless younger sons could retain, or regain, their accustomed life style. Nichols provides us with the following....." A Norman Lord Marcher of an inferior grade, de Brian by name, afterward took it (Talacharn/Talagharne Castle) up as his stronghold, and seems to have become an established resident of the place." The first mention of Guy de Brion in Court records is found in 1248/49. He was given permission by the crown to hold a Fair and Market, 28th. through 30th of every Sept. at his manor of Talacharn. He is reported to have fought in the wars between England and France that occurred between 1244 and 1266. In the Calender of the Charter Rolls, Vol.II (1257-1300), he was referred to as a Knight and his name is given, according to the pronunciation of the time, as Wydo de Brian and Guydo de Bryon. Other variations were, Guidoni de Brione, Sir Guy de Brian, and Sir Guy de Bryan. The exact dates of his birth, marriage, and death are unknown at this time.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== Guy DE BRIENNE, BRION, BRIAN, or BRYAN, ===
Guy DE BRIENNE, BRION, BRIAN, or BRYAN, Baron, m. Lady Jane DE LA POLE. In the wars, 1244-1266.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Guy 'Adomarus' de Bryan, b. 1202 in Torbryan, Devon, England, United Kingdom d. 1 JUN 1255 in Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales, United Kingdom
Mother: Johanna de la Pole, b. 2 JUN 1202 in Slapton, Devon, England, United Kingdom d. 1 JUN 1255 in Wales, United Kingdom
Family 1: Joan Pole, b. ABT 1230 in Pembrokeshire, Wales d. AFT 1284
- Guy Bryan, V, b. ABT 1251 in Pembrokeshire, Wales d. BEF 26 JUL 1307
Family 2: Joan Tracy, b. 1262 in Clifton Campville, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom d. 1324 in Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
- m. 1 JUN 1248 in Pembroke Castle, Pembrokeshire, Dyfed, Wales
- Guy Bryan, V, b. ABT 1251 in Pembrokeshire, Wales d. BEF 26 JUL 1307
- Roger Bryan, b. 1250 in Throcking Castle, Hertfordshire, England d. 1307 in Throcking Castle, Hertfordshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Guy (Brienne) de Bryan on WikiTree
Author: WikiTree contributors, "Guy (Brienne) de Bryan", WikiTree, http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brienne-13 (accessed 24 May 2022)
Publication: Name: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brienne-13;
- Title: Magna Charta Ancestry
- Title: Memorial of Barnstaple
- Title: Geneaological History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages
- Title: Visitations of Leicester
- Title: J J Alexander, “Early owners of Torbryan manor” (25 June 1936)
Publication: Name: https://devonassoc.org.uk/item-author/alexander-j-j/;
- Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain Colonist who came to America before 1200
- Title: Reports & Transactions of Devonshire Association
- Title: Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England
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