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William de Forz Seigneur de Vivonne Forz and Chateau Larcher in Poitou
- Preferred Name: William de Forz Seigneur de Vivonne Forz and Chateau Larcher in Poitou[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]
- Alternate Name: William de Fortibus de Vivonia Baron of Chewton
- Gender: M
- FSID: L7LJ-SZ3
- Title (Nobility): in , Somerset, England at LATI: N1.1197 LONG: E2.9 with note: Description: Baron of Chewton
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/William-de-Forz-Count-of-Albemarle/6000000002459828582?through=6000000005076865603
- Occupation: Sheriff of Cumberland
- LdsEndowment: 22 SEP 1922 with note: GEDCOM data
- Birth: 1226 in Chewton, Somerset, England at LATI: N1.3001 LONG: E2.6059
- Death: 23 APR 1260 in Amiens, Somme, Picardie, France at LATI: N9.894 LONG: E0.3025 with note: same person
- Burial: MAY 1259 in Meaux Abbey, Meaux, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.85 LONG: E0.3333
- LdsBaptism: 22 MAR 1920 with note: GEDCOM data
- Occupation: Keeper of Carlisle Castle
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“WILLIAM DE FORZ (or DE VIVONNE), Knt., of Chewton, Compton Dundon, Midsomer Norton, Shepton Mallet, Sutton Mallet, etc., Somerset, Wolfeton, Dorset, Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, Kilve, Somerset, Woodmansterne, Surrey, Fisheton de la Mare, Wiltshire, etc., seigneur of Vivonne, Forz, and Château-Larcher in Poitou.
He married about 30 July 1248 MAUD DE FERRERS (generally known as MAUD DE KYME), widow of Simon de Kyme, of Sotby, Burgh, Croft, Elkington, Friskney, and Winthorpe, Lincolnshire (died shortly before 30 July 1248), and daughter of William de Ferrets, Knt., 5th Earl of Derby, by his 1st wife, Sibyl, 3rd daughter of William Marshal, Knt., 4th Earl of Pembroke (or Striguil), hereditary Master Marshal [see FERRERS 7 for her ancestry].
She was born about 1230. Maud was co-heiress in 1245 to her uncle, Anselm Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, by which she inherited the manor of Carbury, co. Kildare, Ireland and a third part of the seal of the chancery of co. Kildare, Ireland. They had four daughters, Joan, Sibyl, Mabel, and Cecily.
In 1249 he and his 1st cousin, Nicholas Poyntz, were called to warranty by John de la Stane for 1/2 knight's fee in Fisherton, Wiltshire. The same year he reached agreement regarding the dower of his grandfather, William Malet's widow, Alice Basset.
In 1252 the king confirmed his demise of the manors of Chewton, Compton Dundon, Midsomer Norton, Shepton Mallet, and Welton, Somerset to the Abbot and convent of St. Augustine, Bristol until the abbot and convent receive £224 which they borrowed from some foreign merchants for his use.
In 1255 he made homage to the Abbot of Glastonbury for 10 knights' fees. In 1257 he granted the canons of St.-Hilaire the right of usage which he had in the woods of Champagne, for which the canons in turn granted him the third part of a wood between Ferriere and the road leading from Champagne to Chateau-Larcher.
SIR WILLIAM DE FORZ died shortly before 22 May 1259.
His widow, Maud, married (3rd) by contract dated 28 April 1264 (as his 2nd wife) AMAURY (or EMERY) DE ROCHECHOUART, Knt., Vicomte of Rochechouart (in Haute Vienne) in Poitou, seigneur of La Cossiere-en-Perigord, Brigueil-l'Aine, Mas-de-Gegelar, Perusse, etc., son and heir of Amaury de Rochechouart, Vicomte of Rochechouart, by Marguerite, daughter of Guy V, Viscount of Limoges. They had no issue.
He accompanied King Philippe III in his attack on Foix in 1271. In 1275 the king ordered Emetic Bechet to deliver to him the king's horse to the use of the said Amaury's brother, William de Rochechouart, for the purpose of waging a duel in the parts of Limoges.
In 1275-6 he and his wife, Maud, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Philip de Kyme and others touching a tenement in Skegness, Lincolnshire. In 1276 he and his wife, Maud, granted letters to attorney to Benard de Coudroy, they then about to proceed with the king's license to parts beyond the seas.
In 1276-7 he and his wife, Maud, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Philip de Kyme regarding a tenement in Keal, Lincolnshire. He and his wife, Maud, presented to the church of Thornton in Craven, Yorkshire in 1280 and 1283.
He went on the Aragon expedition in 1283. SIR AMAURY DE ROCHECHOUART, Vicomte of Rochechouart, died about 1283, and was buried in the monastery at Tirzay. He left a will dated 25 June 1283. His widow, Maud, presented to the church of Thornton in Craven, Yorkshire in 1292. Maud, Vicomtesse of Rochechouart, died 12 March 1298/9.
Children of William de Forz, Knt., by Maud de Ferrers:
i. JOAN DE VIVONNE, married (1st) INGRAM DE PERCY, Knt., of Dalton, co. Durham [see FITZ HERBERT 5]; (2nd) AMAURY (or EMERY) X DE ROCHECHOUART [see FITZ HERBERT 5]; (3rd) REYNOLD FITZ PETER, Knt., of Blaen Llyfni (in Cathedine), Breconshire [see FITZ HERBERT 5].
ii. SIBYL DE VIVONNE, daughter and co-heiress, born about 1253 (aged 6 in 1259). She married after 9 August 1269 (by contract dated 28 April 1264) (as his 1st wife) GUY DE ROCHECHOUART, Knt., seigneur of Tonnay-Charente, Cercigny, La Perusse, and Salagnac, and in right of his wife, seigneur of Vivonne in Poitou, 2nd son of Amaury IX de Rochechouart, Knt., Vicomte of Rochechouart (in Haute Vienne) in Poitou, seigneur of La Cossiere-en-Perigord, Brigueil-l'Aine, Mas-de-Gegelar, Perusse, etc., by his 1st wife, Jeanne, daughter and heiress of Geoffroi de Tonnay, seigneur of Tonnay-Charente. They had two sons, Guyard [seigneur of Tonnay-Charente] and Guillaume [seigneursof Tonnay-Charente]. He was a legatee in the 1283 will of his father. His wife, Sibyl, was living 2 July 1306. He married (2nd) AGNES ___. GUY DE ROCHECHOUART died shortly before 28 August 1314. He left a will dated 26 June 1313, requesting burial in the monastery of Tirzay near his fath
=== Miscellanea ===
1249 - heir - Midsomer Norton & Shepton Malet & Weldon & Kilve & Chewton & Compton Dundon, Somerset & Woodmansterne, Surrey & Dullingham, Cambridgeshire
=== He was Lord of Fortbus. ===
He was Lord of Fortbus.
=== Royal Ancestry Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“WILLIAM DE FORZ (or DE VIVONNE), Knt., of Chewton, Compton Dundon, Midsomer Norton, Shepton Mallet, Sutton Mallet, etc., Somerset, Wolfeton, Dorset, Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, Kilve, Somerset, Woodmansterne, Surrey, Fisheton de la Mare, Wiltshire, etc., seigneur of Vivonne, Forz, and Château-Larcher in Poitou. He married about 30 July 1248 MAUD DE FERRERS (generally known as MAUD DE KYME), widow of Simon de Kyme, of Sotby, Burgh, Croft, Elkington, Friskney, and Winthorpe, Lincolnshire (died shortly before 30 July 1248), and daughter of William de Ferrets, Knt., 5th Earl of Derby, by his 1st wife, Sibyl, 3rd daughter of William Marshal, Knt., 4th Earl of Pembroke (or Striguil), hereditary Master Marshal [see FERRERS 7 for her ancestry]. She was born about 1230. Maud was co-heiress in 1245 to her uncle, Anselm Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, by which she inherited the manor of Carbury, co. Kildare, Ireland and a third part of the seal of the chancery of co. Kildare, Ireland. They had four daughters, Joan, Sibyl, Mabel, and Cecily. In 1249 he and his 1st cousin, Nicholas Poyntz, were called to warranty by John de la Stane for 1/2 knight's fee in Fisherton, Wiltshire. The same year he reached agreement regarding the dower of his grandfather, William Malet's widow, Alice Basset. In 1252 the king confirmed his demise of the manors of Chewton, Compton Dundon, Midsomer Norton, Shepton Mallet, and Welton, Somerset to the Abbot and convent of St. Augustine, Bristol until the abbot and convent receive £224 which they borrowed from some foreign merchants for his use. In 1255 he made homage to the Abbot of Glastonbury for 10 knights' fees. In 1257 he granted the canons of St.-Hilaire the right of usage which he had in the woods of Champagne, for which the canons in turn granted him the third part of a wood between Ferriere and the road leading from Champagne to Chateau-Larcher. SIR WILLIAM DE FORZ died shortly before 22 May 1259. His widow, Maud, married (3rd) by contract dated 28 April 1264 (as his 2nd wife) AMAURY (or EMERY) DE ROCHECHOUART, Knt., Vicomte of Rochechouart (in Haute Vienne) in Poitou, seigneur of La Cossiere-en-Perigord, Brigueil-l'Aine, Mas-de-Gegelar, Perusse, etc., son and heir of Amaury de Rochechouart, Vicomte of Rochechouart, by Marguerite, daughter of Guy V, Viscount of Limoges. They had no issue. He accompanied King Philippe III in his attack on Foix in 1271. In 1275 the king ordered Emetic Bechet to deliver to him the king's horse to the use of the said Amaury's brother, William de Rochechouart, for the purpose of waging a duel in the parts of Limoges. In 1275-6 he and his wife, Maud, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Philip de Kyme and others touching a tenement in Skegness, Lincolnshire. In 1276 he and his wife, Maud, granted letters to attorney to Benard de Coudroy, they then about to proceed with the king's license to parts beyond the seas. In 1276-7 he and his wife, Maud, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Philip de Kyme regarding a tenement in Keal, Lincolnshire. He and his wife, Maud, presented to the church of Thornton in Craven, Yorkshire in 1280 and 1283. He went on the Aragon expedition in 1283. SIR AMAURY DE ROCHECHOUART, Vicomte of Rochechouart, died about 1283, and was buried in the monastery at Tirzay. He left a will dated 25 June 1283. His widow, Maud, presented to the church of Thornton in Craven, Yorkshire in 1292. Maud, Vicomtesse of Rochechouart, died 12 March 1298/9.
Anselme Hist. de la Maison Royale de France 4 (1726): 649-654 (sub Rochechouart). Chesnaye Dictionnaire de la Noblesse 12 (1778): 164. Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 5 (1825): 270 (Abbey of Tinturn - Lacy Gen.: "Quarta filia dicti Willielmi Marescalli, vocabatur Sibilla, et nupta fuit Willielmo de Ferrers comiti Derbiæ, de qua procreatæ fuere septem Quarum prima vocabatur Agnes, secunda Isabella, tertia Matilda, quarta Sibilla, quinta Johanna, sexta Alianora, septima Agatha. Matylda de Kyme, tertia filia, nupta Almarico de Rupe-Edwardi, de quibus Johanna de Vynon [recte Vivonia], Cecilia de Bellocampo, Sibilla nupta Almarico de Archiaks in Piganra."). Coll. Top. et Gen. 7 (1841): 136-138, 146-147. Cole Docs. illus. of English Hist. in the 13th & 14th Cents. (1844): 15. Mémoires de la Société des Antiq. de l'Ouest 14 (1848): 283-284 (charter of Guillaume Fort, chevalier, seigneur of Vivonne dated 1257), 284-287. Boutaric Actes du Parlement de Paris 1st Ser. 1 (1863): 152. Cal. Docs. 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C.C.R. 1253-1254 (1929): 246 (Amaury de Rochechouart, vicomte of Rochechouart, styled "king's kinsman" by King Henry III of England). Moor Knights of Edward I 1 (H.S.P. 80) (1929): 80; 4 (H.S.P. 83) (1931): 156. Somersetshire Pleas 4(1) (Somerset Rec. Soc. 44) (1929): 145, 254, 282, 305, 344-345, 350, 359-362. Cam Hundred & Hundred Rolls (1930): 278. C.C.R. 1256-1259 (1932): 409-410. Parker Feet of Fines for the County of York, 1246-1272 (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. 82) (1932): 105-106. C.C.R. 1268-1272 (1938): 97, 101. Sayles Select Cases in the Court of King's Bench 3 (Selden Soc. 58) (1939): cxv. Watkin Great Chartulary of Glastonbury 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 59) (1947): 234-235. Williams Collectanea (Wiltshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. Recs. Branch 12) (1956): 114-115. Clay York Minster Fasti 2 (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Recs. 124) (1959): 5. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 38-39, 62-64, 79-80. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 34-46. Tremlett Rolls of Arms Henry III (H.S.P 113-4) (1967): 153 (arms of William de Forz de Vivonne: Argent a chief gules). Clanchy Civil Pleas of the Wiltshire Eyre 1249 (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 26) (1971): 83, 102-103, 120, 157. Fasti Parochiales 4 (Pubs. Yorkshire Arch. Soc. 133) (1971): 116-118, 120. Clanchy Roll & Writ of the Berkshire Eyre of 1248 (Selden Soc. 90) (1973): 199. VCH Somerset 3 (1974): 120-129, 157-158; 5 (1985): 97-98; 8 (2004): 184-190. VCH Cambridge 6 (1978): 159-160. London Cartulary of Bradenstoke Priog (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 35) (1979): 120 (charter of William de Forz). Adams Select Cases from Eccl. Courts of Canterbury 1200-1301 (Selden Soc. 95) (1981): 441-448. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3(4) (1984): 777 (sub Rouchechouart). Martin Hist. et Gen. de la Maison de Rochechouart (1990). Roccafortis, Bull de la Société de Géographie de Rochefort 3rd Ser. 4 (2000):149-153. 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Children of William de Forz, Knt., by Maud de Ferrers:
i. JOAN DE VIVONNE, married (1st) INGRAM DE PERCY, Knt., of Dalton, co. Durham [see FITZ HERBERT 5]; (2nd) AMAURY (or EMERY) X DE ROCHECHOUART [see FITZ HERBERT 5]; (3rd) REYNOLD FITZ PETER, Knt., of Blaen Llyfni (in Cathedine), Breconshire [see FITZ HERBERT 5].
ii. SIBYL DE VIVONNE, daughter and co-heiress, born about 1253 (aged 6 in 1259). She married after 9 August 1269 (by contract dated 28 April 1264) (as his 1st wife) GUY DE ROCHECHOUART, Knt., seigneur of Tonnay-Charente, Cercigny, La Perusse, and Salagnac, and in right of his wife, seigneur of Vivonne in Poitou, 2nd son of Amaury IX de Rochechouart, Knt., Vicomte of Rochechouart (in Haute Vienne) in Poitou, seigneur of La Cossiere-en-Perigord, Brigueil-l'Aine, Mas-de-Gegelar, Perusse, etc., by his 1st wife, Jeanne, daughter and heiress of Geoffroi de Tonnay, seigneur of Tonnay-Charente. They had two sons, Guyard [seigneur of Tonnay-Charente] and Guillaume [seigneursof Tonnay-Charente]. He was a legatee in the 1283 will of his father. His wife, Sibyl, was living 2 July 1306. He married (2nd) AGNES ___. GUY DE ROCHECHOUART died shortly before 28 August 1314. He left a will dated 26 June 1313, requesting burial in the monastery of Tirzay near his fath
=== “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & M ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“WILLIAM DE FORZ (or DE VIVONNE), Knt., of Chewton, Compton Dundon, Midsomer Norton, Shepton Mallet, Sutton Mallet, etc., Somerset, Wolfeton, Dorset, Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, Kilve, Somerset, Woodmansterne, Surrey, Fisheton de la Mare, Wiltshire, etc., seigneur of Vivonne, Forz, and Château-Larcher in Poitou.
He married about 30 July 1248 MAUD DE FERRERS (generally known as MAUD DE KYME), widow of Simon de Kyme, of Sotby, Burgh, Croft, Elkington, Friskney, and Winthorpe, Lincolnshire (died shortly before 30 July 1248), and daughter of William de Ferrets, Knt., 5th Earl of Derby, by his 1st wife, Sibyl, 3rd daughter of William Marshal, Knt., 4th Earl of Pembroke (or Striguil), hereditary Master Marshal [see FERRERS 7 for her ancestry].
She was born about 1230. Maud was co-heiress in 1245 to her uncle, Anselm Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, by which she inherited the manor of Carbury, co. Kildare, Ireland and a third part of the seal of the chancery of co. Kildare, Ireland. They had four daughters, Joan, Sibyl, Mabel, and Cecily.
In 1249 he and his 1st cousin, Nicholas Poyntz, were called to warranty by John de la Stane for 1/2 knight's fee in Fisherton, Wiltshire. The same year he reached agreement regarding the dower of his grandfather, William Malet's widow, Alice Basset.
In 1252 the king confirmed his demise of the manors of Chewton, Compton Dundon, Midsomer Norton, Shepton Mallet, and Welton, Somerset to the Abbot and convent of St. Augustine, Bristol until the abbot and convent receive £224 which they borrowed from some foreign merchants for his use.
In 1255 he made homage to the Abbot of Glastonbury for 10 knights' fees. In 1257 he granted the canons of St.-Hilaire the right of usage which he had in the woods of Champagne, for which the canons in turn granted him the third part of a wood between Ferriere and the road leading from Champagne to Chateau-Larcher.
SIR WILLIAM DE FORZ died shortly before 22 May 1259.
His widow, Maud, married (3rd) by contract dated 28 April 1264 (as his 2nd wife) AMAURY (or EMERY) DE ROCHECHOUART, Knt., Vicomte of Rochechouart (in Haute Vienne) in Poitou, seigneur of La Cossiere-en-Perigord, Brigueil-l'Aine, Mas-de-Gegelar, Perusse, etc., son and heir of Amaury de Rochechouart, Vicomte of Rochechouart, by Marguerite, daughter of Guy V, Viscount of Limoges. They had no issue.
He accompanied King Philippe III in his attack on Foix in 1271. In 1275 the king ordered Emetic Bechet to deliver to him the king's horse to the use of the said Amaury's brother, William de Rochechouart, for the purpose of waging a duel in the parts of Limoges.
In 1275-6 he and his wife, Maud, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Philip de Kyme and others touching a tenement in Skegness, Lincolnshire. In 1276 he and his wife, Maud, granted letters to attorney to Benard de Coudroy, they then about to proceed with the king's license to parts beyond the seas.
In 1276-7 he and his wife, Maud, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Philip de Kyme regarding a tenement in Keal, Lincolnshire. He and his wife, Maud, presented to the church of Thornton in Craven, Yorkshire in 1280 and 1283.
He went on the Aragon expedition in 1283. SIR AMAURY DE ROCHECHOUART, Vicomte of Rochechouart, died about 1283, and was buried in the monastery at Tirzay. He left a will dated 25 June 1283. His widow, Maud, presented to the church of Thornton in Craven, Yorkshire in 1292. Maud, Vicomtesse of Rochechouart, died 12 March 1298/9.
Children of William de Forz, Knt., by Maud de Ferrers:
i. JOAN DE VIVONNE, married (1st) INGRAM DE PERCY, Knt., of Dalton, co. Durham [see FITZ HERBERT 5]; (2nd) AMAURY (or EMERY) X DE ROCHECHOUART [see FITZ HERBERT 5]; (3rd) REYNOLD FITZ PETER, Knt., of Blaen Llyfni (in Cathedine), Breconshire [see FITZ HERBERT 5].
ii. SIBYL DE VIVONNE, daughter and co-heiress, born about 1253 (aged 6 in 1259). She married after 9 August 1269 (by contract dated 28 April 1264) (as his 1st wife) GUY DE ROCHECHOUART, Knt., seigneur of Tonnay-Charente, Cercigny, La Perusse, and Salagnac, and in right of his wife, seigneur of Vivonne in Poitou, 2nd son of Amaury IX de Rochechouart, Knt., Vicomte of Rochechouart (in Haute Vienne) in Poitou, seigneur of La Cossiere-en-Perigord, Brigueil-l'Aine, Mas-de-Gegelar, Perusse, etc., by his 1st wife, Jeanne, daughter and heiress of Geoffroi de Tonnay, seigneur of Tonnay-Charente. They had two sons, Guyard [seigneur of Tonnay-Charente] and Guillaume [seigneursof Tonnay-Charente]. He was a legatee in the 1283 will of his father. His wife, Sibyl, was living 2 July 1306. He married (2nd) AGNES ___. GUY DE ROCHECHOUART died shortly before 28 August 1314. He left a will dated 26 June 1313, requesting burial in the monastery of Tirzay near his fath
=== "Grey Galloway, Its Lords and Its Saints ===
"Grey Galloway, Its Lords and Its Saints," by Wentworth Huyshe 1914, FHL 941.49 H2mo, chapter "Alan, Last of the Line"
=== William de Vivonne, by Maud, one of the ===
William de Vivonne, by Maud, one of the 7 daughters (coheirs to their mother) of William (Ferrers), Earl of Derby. [Complete Peerage]
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William de Fortibus (also styled le Fort), son and heir, d. shortly bef. 22 May 1259, lord of Chewton, Somerset, m. c 30 July 1248 Maud (or Matilda) de Ferrers, b. c 1230, d. 12 Mar 1298/9, widow of Simon IV de Kyme, d. 1248, lord of Sotby, co. Lincoln, and daughter of William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby by his wife Sibyl Marshal. Maud m. (3) by 4 Feb 1267 Sir Emery (or Almery), Vicomte de Rochechomacrt in Poitou, living Apr 1284. [Magna Charta Sureties]
Born in Albermarle, Scotland. This place is not recognized by website New.FamilySearch.org in 2009.
=== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Forz,_4th_Earl_of_Albemarle ===
His first wife was one of the co-heiresses of Galloway. Her mother was one of the co-heiresses of the Earldom of Chester on the death of the last Earl in 1237. He claimed that, as a Palatine, it could not be divided, and his wife should get it as the oldest coheir. He got the title, but the court decided that the lands should be divided, but this wife died in 1239 without issue. However, he and his wife quitclaimed the earldom to Henry III in 1241 in exchange for modest lands elsewhere.
In 1241, on the death of his father, he inherited his lands, including honors associated with Cockermouth Castle in Cumberland, and Skipton Castle in Craven, Skipsea Castle in Holderness, both in Yorkshire. He joined Henry III in campaigns in Poitou and Wales in 1242 and 1245, but not in Wales in 1257 because he was ill. He held local offices in Cumberland, including justice of the forest for Cumberland in 1251, and sheriff of Cumberland in 1255 and keeper of Carlisle Castle, an office he held until his death.
Following the death of his wife in 1246, he married another great heiress, the sister of the last Earl of Devon. William de Forz died at Amiens in 1260. His widow, Isabella, on the death of her brother Baldwin de Redvers, 8th Earl of Devon, in 1261, inherited his lands and called herself Countess of Devon and Aumale. She had six children, all of whom pre-deceased her, including Thomas, who died in 1269 unmarried, and Avelina, who married Edmund Crouchback, 1st Earl of Lancaster in 1269, and died without issue in 1274, aged 15.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Hugh de Vivonne Seigneur de Vivonne en Poitou Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset Seneschal de Gascogne, b. 1195 in Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France d. 16 OCT 1249 in Chewton Mendip, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
Mother: Mabel Malet, b. 1199 in Curry Mallet, Somerset, England, United Kingdom d. BEF OCT 1249 in Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
Family 1: Maud de Ferrers, b. 1228 in Derby, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom d. 12 MAR 1299 in Evington, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom
- m. 30 JUL 1248 in Somerset, England
- Cecily de Vivonne, b. 1257 in Chewton, Somerset, England d. 10 JAN 1321 in Stoke-under-Hamden, Somerset, England
- Joan de Vivonnne, b. 1 JUN 1251 in Chewton, Somerset, England d. 1 JUN 1314 in Chewton Mendip, Somerset, England
Sources:
- Title: Pedigree of the family of Herbert of Vermandois (Herbertus Camerarius) in Collections Historical & Archaeological Relating to Montgomeryshire, Vol. V, pages 158-159
Author: Pedigree of the family of Herbert of Vermandois (Herbertus Camerarius) in Collections Historical & Archaeological Relating to Montgomeryshire, Vol. V, pages 158-159
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/165477844;
Note: Pedigree of the family of Herbert of Vermandois (Herbertus Camerarius) in Collections Historical & Archaeological Relating to Montgomeryshire, Vol. V, pages 158-159
Page: Pedigree of the family of Herbert of Vermandois (Herbertus Camerarius) in Collections Historical & Archaeological Relating to Montgomeryshire, Vol. V, pages 158-159
- Title: Herbert (Herbertus Camerarius) in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 271
Author: Herbert (Herbertus Camerarius) in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 271
Note: Herbert (Herbertus Camerarius) in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 271
Page: Herbert (Herbertus Camerarius) in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 271
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Author: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE%20NOBILITY.htm#GuillaumeVivonneFortibusdied1264A;
- Title: William de Forz Vivonne, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2BY-2B27 : 25 May 2022), William de Forz Vivonne, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 175244931, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2BY-2B27;
Page: Likely a match given the matching name and approximate death year.
- Title: Family of Herbert from Annals and Antiquities, vol. II, pg. 776-777 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Family of Herbert from Annals and Antiquities, vol. II, pg. 776-777 [See document in the Memories section]
Note: Family of Herbert from Annals and Antiquities, vol. II, pg. 776-777 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Family of Herbert from Annals and Antiquities, vol. II, pg. 776-777 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Herbert the Chamberlain (Herbertus Camerarius) in History of Monmouthshire, pgs. 116-118
Author: Herbert the Chamberlain (Herbertus Camerarius) in History of Monmouthshire, pgs. 116-118
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/165484712;
Note: Herbert the Chamberlain (Herbertus Camerarius) in History of Monmouthshire, pgs. 116-118
Page: Herbert the Chamberlain (Herbertus Camerarius) in History of Monmouthshire, pgs. 116-118
- Title: Herbert FitzHerbert and Lucy FitzWalter in Archaeologica Cambrensis, Third Series, No. XIII, January 1858, pgs. 23-26
Author: Herbert FitzHerbert and Lucy FitzWalter in Archaeologica Cambrensis, Third Series, No. XIII, January 1858, pgs. 23-26
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/165550246;
Note: Herbert FitzHerbert and Lucy FitzWalter in Archaeologica Cambrensis, Third Series, No. XIII, January 1858, pgs. 23-26
Page: Herbert FitzHerbert and Lucy FitzWalter in Archaeologica Cambrensis, Thirs Series, No. XIII, January 1858, pgs. 23-26
- Title: The Peerage
Author: The Peerage
Publication: Name: http://www.thepeerage.com/p11863.htm#i118625;
Note: Child of William de Vivonne and Maud Ferrers
Cicely de Vivonne d. 10 Jan 1320
- Title: William de Forz, Seigneur de Vivonne (1222-1259), Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p381.htm#i11437 index to pedigrees [citations]
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p381.htm#i11437;
Note: Sir William de Forz, Seigneur de Vivonne, Forz, & Chateau-Larcher in Poitou, [1,2,3,4,5,6,7]
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #11437, b. circa 1222, d. circa 22 May 1259
Father Sir Hugh de Vivonne, Seigneur de Vivonne in Poitou, Sheriff Somerset & Dorset, Seneschal of Gascony [8,9] d. c 16 Oct 1249
Mother Mabel Malet [8,9] d. b 16 Oct 1249
Sir William de Forz, Seigneur de Vivonne, Forz, & Chateau-Larcher in Poitou, was born circa 1222 at of Chewton, Compton Dundon, Midsomer Norton, Shepton Mallet, Sutton Mallet, & Welton, Somersetshire, England. He married Maud de Ferrers, daughter of Sir William de Ferrers, 5th Earl Derby, Constable of Bolsover Castle and Sybil Marshal, circa 30 July 1248; They had 4 daughters (Joan, wife of Sir Ingram de Percy, of Aimery X de Rochechouart, & of Sir Reynold FitzPeter; Mabel, wife of Foucaud d'Archiac, Seigneur d'Archiac-in-Saintonge; Sibyl, wife of Sir Guy de Rochechouart, Seigneur de Tonnay-Charente; & Cecily, wife of Sir John de Beauchamp). [2,3,4,6,7,10] Sir William de Forz, Seigneur de Vivonne, Forz, & Chateau-Larcher in Poitou, died circa 22 May 1259. [2,6]
Family: Maud de Ferrers b. c 1230, d. 12 Mar 1299
Children:
Joan de Vivonne+ [11,2,4,6] b. c 1251, d. 1 Jun 1314
Sibyl de Vivonne [2,6] b. c 1253, d. bt 2 Jul 1306 - 1313
Mabel de Vivonne [6] b. c 1255, d. b 1 Nov 1299
Cecily de Vivonne+ [2,5,6,7] b. 1257, d. 10 Jan 1321
Citations:
1. [S3138] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. II, p. 48; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 66.
2. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 101-102.
3. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 564.
4. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 622-623.
5. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 661-662.
6. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 8.
7. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 608.
8. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 98-99.
9. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 4-5.
10. [S11772] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Vol. IV, p. 21-35. "13th Century Marriages between the Anglo-Norman and Poitou Families of Vivonne, Ferrers & Rochechouart". Written by Margaret Schooling.
11. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 250.
Page: Relationships, dates, and 11 sources
- Title: Herbert FitzHerbert and Lucy FitzMiles in A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland and Scotland, pg. 201
Author: Herbert FitzHerbert and Lucy FitzMiles in A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland and Scotland, pg. 201
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/165606141;
Note: Herbert FitzHerbert and Lucy FitzMiles in A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland and Scotland, pg. 201
Page: Herbert FitzHerbert and Lucy FitzMiles in A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland and Scotland, pg. 201
- Title: William "de Forz" Vivonne, Find a Grave
Author: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175244931/william_%22de_forz%22-vivonne link from father
Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175244931/william_%22de_forz%22-vivonne;
Note: William "de Forz" Vivonne
BIRTH unknown
DEATH May 1259
BURIAL Unknown
MEMORIAL ID 175244931
Spouse: Maud "Matilda" de Ferrers Rochechouart (1230–1298)
Parents: Hugh de Vivonne (unknown–1249) & Mabel de Malet Vivonne
- Title: William De Fors Earl of Albemarle in the Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-22
Author: Ancestry.com. Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-22 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. This collection was indexed by Ancestry World Archives Project contributors. Original data: Stephen, Sir Leslie, ed. Dictionary of National Biography, 1921–1922. Volumes 1–22. London, England: Oxford University Press, 1921–1922. Dictionary of National Biography, 1921–1922, Oxford University Press, London, England.
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=1981&h=88556&indiv=try;
Note: Name: William De Fors Earl of Albemarle
Death Date: 1260
- Title: Peter FitzReginald in A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britian and Ireland, pg. 659
Author: Peter FitzReginald in A Genelogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britian and Ireland, pg. 659
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/165716547;
Note: Peter FitzReginald in A Genelogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britian and Ireland, pg. 659
Page: Peter FitzReginald in A Genelogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britian and Ireland, pg. 659
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