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Robert Hammond de Pulford
- Preferred Name: Robert Hammond de Pulford[1]
- Gender: M
- FSID: G6H3-WNZ
- Birth: 8 JAN 1174 in Pulford, Broxley Hundred, Cheshire, England
- Alt. Birth: 1170 in Pulford, Cheshire, England at LATI: N3.1279 LONG: E2.9124
- Alt. Birth: 8 JAN 1174 in Pulford, Cheshire, England at LATI: N3.1279 LONG: E2.9124
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Robert-Hammond-de-Pulford/6000000003442168479?through=6000000018834537186
- Death: 1240 in Pulford, Cheshire, England at LATI: N3.1279 LONG: E2.9124
- Notes:
=== !Visitations of Cheshire ===
!Visitations of Cheshire
=== !Name,Byr,pla,parents,Spouse,Bap,End-TIB ===
!Name,Byr,pla,parents,Spouse,Bap,End-TIB FHL 884558
Robert de Pulford
Birth 1170 Pulford, Cheshire West and Chester, England Died 1240
Immediate Family:Son of Richard Pulford Husband of Elizabeth De Pulford Father of Sir Robert de Pulford
=== !#4568-v4-p262; !living-1240; !ASSUMPTIO ===
!#4568-v4-p262; !living-1240; !ASSUMPTION: place of residence unknown, placed here for recording purposes;
=== [[Category: Pulford, Cheshire]] ===
[[Category: Pulford, Cheshire]]
{{DateGuess}}
==Temporary Pulford Cross Reference==
#(C) [[Pulford-205|Robert de Pulford]], b. 1180, son of Richard de Pulford-206 and father of Robert de Pulford-23. No death date noted.#[[Pulford-5|Richard Pulford]], b. 1195-1230, husband of Sybil Eaton. father of Hamon and possibly Agnes#(B) [[Pulford-23|Robert de Pulford]], b. 1205, d. 1243, son of Robertde Pulford-25 and father of Hugh-22. Alive 1240 and 1243 .Contains hidden working materials. Probably father of Agnes.#(A) [[Pulford-204|Agnes or Tibota Pulford]] b.1210. Married [[ap Iorwerth-29|Rhirid ap Iorwerth, b. 1200. Mother of [[ap Rhirid-5|Einion ap Rhirid]], b. 1230. Daughter of Sir Robert Pulford, who was living in 1240 [ Arch. Camb, 1891, 258, cited by Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Following Bartrum. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. p. 111 ]
#[[Pulford-178|Hamon de Pulford]] b 1230 son of Richard-5#[[Pulford-22|Hugh de Pulford]], 1230-1285, son of Robert-23. Born Pulham, Cheshire, England. Married Marjorie Frodsham#[[Pulford-24|Sir Robert de Pulford]], 1255-1315. m. [[Corbet-117|Elizabeth Corbet]], b. Shropshire 1275. Son of Hugh Pulford and MarjorieFrodsham. Father of Robert. #[[Pulford-7|Sir Robert Pulford]]. b. 1322, 3. 1409. m. Catherine Dutton & Jane Pulford. Father of Tibota de Pulford.#[[De Pulford-12|Tibota de Pulford]], b. 1318, daughter of Robert Pulford-7, m. Henry Minshull.
Agnes Ancestry:
#(A) Agnes, born ca 1210, daughter of Sir Robert Pulford.#(B)Sir Robert Pulford, born ca 1205--1190, living in 1240, received grant of land in Cheshire about 1243.
#(C)Robert Pulford, b. 1180-->1170, witness to a charter
===Lords of Pulford -- List of Roberts===
Ormerod gives this list of the Lords of Pulford. [ "History of the County Palatine and City of Chester" George Ormerod Vol II pps 460-1. Cited by Geni. Sir Knight Robert De Pulford. Added by: Ed Poor onDecember 28, 2012 Managed by: Aaron William Carpenter (on hiatus while preparing for college) and Ed Poor. https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Knight-Robert-De-Pulford/6000000040900925101. Accessed Jan 15, 2017.]
#Robert I 1st Lord of Pulford Castle [Granted from Ralph son of Simon Ormesbee] 28 Henry III (1244) wife unknown#Robert II 2nd Lord wife unknown unk Dau wife of ______Bamville,,,,Hamo de Pulford Isabella wife of Griffen Warren
#Robert III 3rd Lord de Pulford wife unknown#Robert IV 4th Lord de Pulford Wife Elizabeth Corbet dau Cecilia m Renulf de Milneton
#Robert V 5th Lord de Pulford 2 Edward II (1309)
#John 6th Lord de Pulford Died Sine Prole 35 Edward III (1362)#7th Lord de Pulford Thomas de Belgreave spouse of sister of John 6th Lord de Pulford
==Biography==
===Name===
Robert II de Pulford
The father of Agnes, who married Ririd ab Iorwerth, was Sir Robert Pulford. [ [https://books.google.com/books?id=vqFJAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=Corbet+%22Robert+Pulford%22&source=bl&ots=zGG8Nsc__L&sig=eQzhf1e8u_c1lN6pF9niGhE6kxw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjspuPLi8XRAhUBdSYKHcp9CqI4ChDoAQgZMAA#v=onepage&q=Corbet%20%22Robert%20Pulford%22&f=false H. F. J. Vaughan “On the Tribe of Ednowain Bendew.” Archeologica Cambriensis: The Journal of the Cambrian Archaeological Association. Vol VIII, 4th Session. No. 11, p. 51-58. London, 1877. Accessed Jan 15, 2017 ]]
Sir Robert de Pulford, Knight [ The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Pedigree Resource File - CD-Rom" ((Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2001)), Compact Disc #6 Pin #140339. Cited by Kirk Larson, Our Family Histories. http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I116584&tree=00 Accessed Jan 17, 20176 ]
Sir Robert Hammond, de Pulford MP [ Geni. Sir Robert Hammond de Pulford. Added by: James Frederick Pultz on December 25, 2007Managed by: Peter Alan Dutton, Jr. and 16 others; Curated by: Erica "the Disconnectrix" Howton. https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Robert-Hammond-de-Pulford/6000000003442168479. Accessed Jan 22 2017 ]
Robert, First Lord of Pulford Castle. [ "History of the County Palatine and City of Chester" George Ormerod Vol II pps 460-1. Cited byGeni. Sir Knight Robert De Pulford. Added by: Ed Poor on December 28, 2012 Managed by: Aaron William Carpenter (on hiatus while preparingfor college) and Ed Poor. https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Knight-Robert-De-Pulford/6000000040900925101. Accessed Jan 15, 2017. ]
===Birth and Birth Year Estimation===
Sir Robert de Pulford was born 1205 in Pulford, Cheshire, England. Kirk Larson, Our Family Histories. http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I116584&tree=00
Accessed Jan 17, 2017
Robert's estimated birth year of 1205 fits neatly with a 25 year per generation scheme, in which children are born in their parents' early twenties.
One source estimates daughter Agnes' birth year at 1210, with a marriage about 1239. Boyer estimates Agnes' husband Rhirid's birth at 1170. Such a May and December relationship is not impossible; Rhirid would be 69 at his wedding and aged 70, 72, 74, 76, and78 at the births of his five children from 1240-1248. Boyer places the first chlld's birth at 1230 which would make him a decade younger and place the marriage at 1229 when Agnes was 19 -- much more reasonable. But Boyer still places the youngest child's birth at 1248.
Agnes' father's birth year is currently placed at 1205, five years before his daughter's birth. There obviously is an error here. It can'tbe solved by advancing Agnes' birth year because it increases the ageat which Rhirid's children are born.
Agnes' forebears' birth years were estimated at 1205, 1180, 1155, respectively, clearly estimated at 25 year intervals. They are being adjusted to a start year of 1150 and 20 year intervals -- 1170 and 1190. These estimates are purely speculative.
===1239 Pulford Castle===
According to the chart History of Palatine of Chester another Robert 1st Grantee of Pulford Castle from Ralph son of Simon de Ormesbee 28 Henry III 1239
===1240 Living===
Sir Robert Pulford, whose daughter married Rhirid, was living in 1240 [ Arch. Camb, 1891, 258, cited by Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Following Bartrum. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. p. 111 ] and received a grant of land in Cheshire about 1243 from Ralph de Ormsbee. He was a son of Robert Pulford who was a witness to a charter to Richard de Aldford in the reign of King John and who was son of Richard de Pulford [Ormerod2:857]
===1243 Cheshire land grant from Ralph de Ormsbee===
1243. Sir Robert II Pulford, father-in-law of Rhirid, received a grant of land in Cheshire from Ralph de Ormsbee.
==Issue==
===Agnes and Tibot===
There is significant confusion about a daughter of Robert II de Pulford who married [[ap Iorwerth-29|Rhirid ab Iorwerth]]. * Boyer reports that Rhirid married a '''daughter''' of Sir Robert II Pulford, who was living in 1240, without specifying the name of the daughter. [ Arch. Camb, 1891, 258, cited by Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Following Bartrum. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. p. 111 ] and received a grant of land in Cheshire about 1243 from Ralph de Ormsbee. He was a son of Robert I Pulford who was a witness to a charter to Richard de Aldford in the reign of King John (1199-1216) and who was son of Richardde Pulford [Ormerod2:857]* Kirk Larson, in Our Family Histories, reports that it was [[Pulford-204|Agnes]], born about 1210, who married Rhirid ap Iorwerth in 1239. [[http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I116558&tree=00Kirk Larson, Our Family Histories.] Accessed Jan 15, 2017 ] She married Rhirid ap Iorwerth ap Madog ap Ednyfed Bendew II who was born say 1170. [Carl Boyer, 3rd, Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Following Bartrum. By the author: SantaClarita, California, 2004. p. 111 ]
#Radulph de Pulford; Radulph de Pulford, son
#Isabel de Pulford; Isabel de Pulford, daughter#Hugh "le Clerc" de Pulford Hugh "le Clerc" de Pulford, son
#Nichola de Pulford, daughter
#Herbert de Pulford, son
===Hugh===
Robert (II) He had the following children: #[[Pulford-22|Hugh de Pulford]] was born 1230 and died 1282/1289.
#Nichola de Pulford was born 1236 and died 1271.
[[Pulford-23|Robert II de Pulford, born 1190 and died 1243, was the father of [[Pulford-22|Hugh de Pulford]], born 1230.
===Emma Line===
Emma, of Cheshire, wife
#Radulph de Pulford, son
#Isabel de Pulford, daughter
#Hugh "le Clerc" de Pulford, son
#Nichola de Pulford, daughter
#Robert de Pulford, son
#Herbert de Pulford, son
== Sources ==
*Ormerod, George, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (London: Lackington, Hughes, Mavor & Jones, 1819.), 2:857, Family History Library, 942.71 H2or.
*Boyer, Carl, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Santa Clarita, California: C. Boyer, 2001.), p. 12, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.2 A141-2.
==Acknowledgements==
This person was created through the import of Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011.
Verified from the Genealogy worksheets compiled by Ralph Pryor during his 40 years of research, traveling extensively in the military and inretirement. Entered by Greg Rose, Grandson.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Richard Hammond de Pulford, b. 1150 in Pulford, Broxley Hundred, Cheshire, England d. 1200 in Pulford, Broxley Hundred, Cheshire, England
Mother: Margery Frodsham, b. 1150 d. 1180 in Pulford, Cheshire, England
Family 1: Elizaabeth Corbet, b. 1218 in Pulford, Cheshire, England
Family 2: Mary Ann Emma Shrieve, b. 1843 in Billockby, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom d. 1916 in Norwich, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
Family 3: Emma of Cheshire, b. ABT 1200 d. in Pulford, Cheshire, England
- Hugh de Pulford, b. ABT 1240 in Pulford, Cheshire, England d. BEF 1289 in Pulford, Cheshire, England
- Tibota de Pulford, b. ABT 1225 in Pulford, Cheshire, England d. ABT 1290 in Pulford, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
- Nichola de Pulford, b. 1236 in Pulford, Cheshire, England d. 1271 in Storeton, Cheshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Robert Pulford in entry for Robert Pulford, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Author: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3RR-6DH : 5 February 2023), Robert Pulford in entry for Robert Pulford, 1876.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3RR-6DH;
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