Robert de Thweng

• Preferred Name: Robert de Thweng^{[1] [2] [3] [4]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• Death: 1268 in Cleveland, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.5871 LONG: E1.1385
  
• Birth: 1205 in Kilton, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.3124 LONG: E1.1043
  
• Burial: JUN 1268 in Thweng Church, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.9588 LONG: E1.0825 with note: fs data base
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Knight
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord of Kilton in , Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.9588 LONG: E1.0825
  
• FSID: LT7T-H8P
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  sir, Robert III Thweng, Lord of Kilton by rt of wife
  heir & s/o Marmaduke Thweng
  
  bef 1228/29 - m- Maud Kilton, widow of Richard Dawtrey , heiress
  
  heir - Thweng & Lund, Yorkshire
  1240 - crusades
  
  Wikipedia -
  
  Robert de Thweng (c. 1205 – c. 1268) was a noble who rebelled against the church authorities in Yorkshire, England.[3]
  Life[edit]
  
  Robert de Thweng gained ownership of the Castle of Kilton through his marriage to Matilda, niece of Sir William de Kylton and widow of Richard de Autrey, in 1222.[4][5] He thus inherited a dispute with the Prior of Gisborough, concerning the advowson of the parish priest at Kirkleatham, particularly that the Prior had tried to gain control of the parish whilst Sir William was infirm. He was angered by what he saw as the imposition of foreign (Italian) priests.[6]
  
  When Robert had exhausted all the ecclesiastical routes of appeal, he turned to rebellion (around Easter 1232), and raided church properties, especially those belonging to foreign churchmen, under the sobriquet Will Wither (literally ‘William the Angry’), and he distributed the spoils to the poor.[5] He was excommunicated by the Papal Legate in England, Cardinal Otto.[4]
  
  He was given support by the great northern Magnate families: Percy, Neville, Fitz-Randolph, de Vesci, de Maulay, de Menyll, de Roos and de Brus.[4]
  
  IRTH: Vicary Gibbs, et al., Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, 2d ed., vol. 12, part 1 (London: St. Catherine Press, 1953), 737.
  MAR: Ibid.
  DEATH: Ibid.
  OCC/TITLES: Attorney. In 1231 he led attacks on the alien clergy appointed by the Pope. In 1239 he went to Rome to deliver a letter of protest from the lay clergy. He was a crusader in 1240-42
  
  He presented his case to Henry III of England[3] who, rather than punish him, gave him letters of recommendation to take to Pope Gregory IX.[4] The Pope ruled in his favour, bringing the rebellion of Will Wither to an end. Biographies suggest that the influence of Richard of Cornwall may have been decisive in this case.[5]
  
  In 1240 Robert set out with Richard on Crusade, but he probably never reached The Holy Land, as he was dispatched as an envoy to Frederick II.[5]
  
  In 1244 he was charged with assaulting the Archbishop of York, Walter de Gray, and his lands were seized, but later returned to him.[5]
  
  His later life is unclear. He may have been alive during the Second Barons' War, and one biography suggests he took Henry's side,[3] although there is evidence he may have been dead by 1257, when his son Marmaduke was apparently in control of the major Thweng estates.[5]
  
  === (1202) ===
  (1202)
  
  === A knight - Sir Robert de Thweng
  
  1232-To ===
  A knight - Sir Robert de Thweng
  
  1232-Took the name Will Wither while harrying the clergy who were farming the benefices grant ed to him by the Pope.
  1239-Duputized by the Barons to go to Rome and plead their case to the Pope
  1240-Accompanied Richard, Earl of Caronwall and brother of King Henry III, on Crusade
  1240-Envoy of Richard, Earl of Cornwall to Emporer Frederick II
  
  Inherited Kilton Castle through his wife who as the heiress of William de Kilton. Held Thweng , Lund
  
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  === Robert de Thweng, Lord of Kilton, who m. ===
  Robert de Thweng, Lord of Kilton, who m. the widow of Sir John de Oketon, and was s. by his eldest son, Marmaduke de Thweng. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 532, Thweng, Barons Thweng]
  
  Robert de Thwenge, lord of the castle of Kilton, m. the widow of Sir John de Oketon, and had issue, Marmaduke, Richard, Yvan, a dau. who m. William Constable, and Alice, m. to John Oketon, son of Sir John Oketon, knt. [John Burke, History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, Vol. II, R. Bentley, London, 1834-1838, p. 147, Field, of Heaton]
  
  A knight - Sir Robert de Thweng
  
  1232-Took the name Will Wither while harrying the clergy who were farming the benefices granted to him by the Pope.
  1239-Duputized by the Barons to go to Rome and plead their case to the Pope
  1240-Accompanied Richard, Earl of Caronwall and brother of King Henry III, on Crusade
  1240-Envoy of Richard, Earl of Cornwall to Emporer Frederick II
  
  Inherited Kilton Castle through his wife who as the heiress of William de Kilton. Held Thweng, Lund
  
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  ROBERT DE THWENG, son and heir, was leader in 1231, under the name William Wither, of the attacks on the alien clergy who were appointed to livings by the Pope. Negotiations with the papacy continued long after the unrest had ended, and in 1239 Robert took to Rome a letter of protest from the lay patrons. Nothing is known of his activities in Rome, but the mission was successful; for in the same year Pope Gregory IX wrote to Richard, Earl of Cornwall, recognising the rights of English lay patrons. Robert accompanied the Earl on crusade in 1240, and in September 1240 he went, as Richard's envoy, from Marseilles to the Emperor Frederick II, bearing information about the quarrel between the Earl and the papal legates, who were trying to stop the crusade. Robert returned to England in 1242, possibly with Richard of Cornwall, and in 1245 his lands were seized by the Crown, because in the royal hall of Windsor he attacked Richard de Sarr', a clerk of the Archbishop of York. During 1246 he was an attorney in pleadings and he witnessed charters; and he is last mentioned in a final concord dated 17 June I246. He married, before January 1228/9, Maud, widow of Richard DEAUTREY, possibly daughter of Roger DE KILTON, niece and heir of William DE KILTON. She brought to the Thwengs the manor and castle of Kilton, together with lands in Kilton Thorpe, North Riding, and Kirkleatham, East Riding, held of the Percies. The dates of the deaths of Robert and Maud are not known. [Complete Peerage XII/1:737-8]
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.49;
  
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1. Marmaduke de Thweng, b. 1226 in Kilton Castle, Yorkshire, England     d. 1279

1. Title: Book - Early Yorkshire Charters
   
2. Title: Book - Early Yorkshire Families
   
3. Title: Book - History of Dormant, Abeyant, Forfiets & Extinct Baronies
   
4. Title: Book - Herladric Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland