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Ela
- Preferred Name: Ela [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
- Alternate Name: Adelia d'Alençon
- Alternate Name: Adelia d'Everaux
- Alternate Name: Adelia Talvas
- Alternate Name: Adelia de Talvas
- Gender: F
- Burial: 4 DEC 1174 in Lewes, Sussex, England at LATI: N0.8736 LONG: E0.0112
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Countess of Surrey
- Christening: in Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France at LATI: N8.4306 LONG: E0.0836
- Death: 10 OCT 1174 in Wiltshire, England at LATI: N1.3923 LONG: E2.0435 with note: myheritage
- Alt. Birth: 1110
- FSID: LCT3-K4C
- Birth: na 1127
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#RobertMontgommerydied1131
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
"WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, son and heir, probably born in 1119. In June 1137 he was one of the nobles who deserted the army of King Stephen in Normandy. The king pursued them to Pont-Audemer, where he held William and other youths and did his best to pacify them, but did not dare make them fight. William was with his half-brother, Waleran, Count of Meulan, at Rouen 18 Dec. 1138, and at Oxford in 1139 or early in 1140.
He was in the army of King Stephen at the Battle of Lincoln 2 Feb. 1140/1, but fled with his brother, Count Waleran, before the enemy's opening charge. However, the brothers soon rallied to the queen during the king's captivity and were with her in London about June 1141.
After King Stephen's release in Nov. 1141, he witnessed royal charters at Canterbury at Christmas 1141 and at Ipswich in early 1142.
He married ELA (or ALA) OF PONTHIEU, daughter of Guillaume III Talvas, Count of Ponthieu and Alençon, by Ela, daughter of Eudes I Borel, Duke of Burgundy. They had one daughter, Isabel.
He took the cross on Palm Sunday 24 March 1145/6, and subsequently accompanied King Louis VIII of France on crusade in June 1147.
WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, died 19 Jan. 1147/8, being slain when the rearguard of the French king's army was cut to pieces in Laodicea.
About 1150 Theobald, Archbishop of Canterbury, remonstrated with his widow, Ela, for detaining from the monks of Lewes Priory the tithes of her dower lands. She married (2nd) probably in or before 1152 (as his 2nd wife) PATRICK OF SALISBURY (otherwise known as PATRICK FITZ WALTER), 1st Earl of Salisbury [see LONGESPEE 3], hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Steward of the Household to Empress Maud, son and heir of Walter of Salisbury (also known as Walter Fitz Edward), of Chitteme, Wiltshire, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, North Aston, Oxfordshire, etc., hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Constable of Salisbury Castle, by Sibyl, daughter of Patrick de Chaources (or Sourches) [see LONGESPEE 2 for his ancestry].
They had four sons, William [2nd Earl of Salisbury], Patrick [Canon of Bradenstoke], Philip [Canon of Bradenstoke], and Roger. He was created Earl of Salisbury (or Wiltshire) about 1143; he occurs once as Earl of Wiltshire in the period, 1111 50. He witnessed a charter of Henry d'Oilly in the period, 1144-47. Sometime before 1148 he witnessed a charter of Roger Fitz Humphrey to the Templars. In 1153 he witnessed the treaty between King Stephen and Henry, Duke of Normandy [future King Henry II].
After the accession of King Henry II, he continued to act as Sheriff and was frequently at Court. He witnessed a charter of his brother-in-law, John Marshal, to the Templars in 1155-6. At an unknown date, he gave Bradenstoke Priory the church of Wilcot, with its dependent chapel at Draycot Fitz Payne, as well as a portion of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire. He also exchanged the property in Wilsford, Wiltshire given by his father, for the rest of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire, and also gave a salt pit in Canford, Dorset. His wife, Countess Ela, gave the same priory land and rents in Hatherop, Gloucestershire worth 100s. yearly.
In 1167 he accompanied King Henry II to Poitou, where the king assigned him to protect his queen, Eleanor of Aquitaine. PATRICK, Earl of Salisbury was slain about 7 April 1168 by Poitevin nobles while riding near the castle of Lusigan in Poitou with Queen Eleanor. He was buried in the Abbey of St. Hilaire in Poitiers. Queen Eleanor and her son, Richard, subsequently founded an anniversary at St.-Hilaire for their salvation and for the soul of Earl Patrick "who died in our service." His widow, Ela, Countess of Salisbury, died 10 Dec. 1174.
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Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Ela d' Alencon1,2,3,4,5
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #5777, b. circa 1120, d. 10 December 1174
Father Guillaume III, Count of Ponthieu, Alençon, & Montreuil-sur-Mer, Sire de Montgomery2,3,5 b. c 1090, d. 29 Jun 1172
Mother Alice (Helie) of Burgundy3,5 b. Nov 1080, d. 28 Feb 1141
Ela d' Alencon was born circa 1120. She married William de Warren, 3rd Earl of Surrey, son of William de Warenne, Earl of Warren & Surrey and Isabel de Vermandois, circa 1136; They had 1 daughter (Isabel, wife of William, Comte de Boulogne & Mortain, & of Hamelin, Vicomte de Touraine).2,3,4,5 Ela d' Alencon married Patrick de Evereux, Earl of Salisbury, Sheriff of Wiltshire, son of Walter de Evereux, Sheriff of Wiltshire, Constable of Salisbury Castle and Sibilla de Chaworth, circa 1152; They had 4 sons (William, 2nd Earl of Salibury; Patrick, Canon of Bradenstoke; Philip, Canon of Bradenstoke; & Roger).3,5 Ela d' Alencon died on 10 December 1174 at of Salisbury, Wiltshire, England.3,5
Family 1
William de Warren, 3rd Earl of Surrey b. c 1119, d. 19 Jan 1148
Children
Gundred Warenne+ d. a 1167
Ela de Warren+6
Isabel de Warren+6,2,5 b. c 1137, d. c 12 Jul 1203
Family 2
Patrick de Evereux, Earl of Salisbury, Sheriff of Wiltshire b. b 1120, d. 7 Apr 1168
Child
William, 2nd Earl of Salisbury+3 b. c 1150, d. 17 Apr 1197
Patrick, Canon of Bradenstoke
Philip, Canon of Bradenstoke
Roger FitzPatrick
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Eladied1174 as of 3/9/2016
ELA de Ponthieu (-10 Dec 1174). Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”Willelmum Talavatium” married “Ala...q
=== ! !Colonial Dames of Royal Descent Page ===
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=== Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
"WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, son and heir, probably born in 1119. In June 1137 he was one of the nobles who deserted the army of King Stephen in Normandy. The king pursued them to Pont-Audemer, where he held William and other youths and did his best to pacify them, but did not dare make them fight. William was with his half-brother, Waleran, Count of Meulan, at Rouen 18 Dec. 1138, and at Oxford in 1139 or early in 1140. He was in the army of King Stephen at the Battle of Lincoln 2 Feb. 1140/1, but fled with his brother, Count Waleran, before the enemy's opening charge. However, the brothers soon rallied to the queen during the king's captivity and were with her in London about June 1141. After King Stephen's release in Nov. 1141, he witnessed royal charters at Canterbury at Christmas 1141 and at Ipswich in early 1142. He married ELA (or ALA) OF PONTHIEU, daughter of Guillaume III Talvas, Count of Ponthieu and Alençon, by Ela, daughter of Eudes I Borel, Duke of Burgundy. They had one daughter, Isabel. He took the cross on Palm Sunday 24 March 1145/6, and subsequently accompanied King Louis VIII of France on crusade in June 1147. WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, died 19 Jan. 1147/8, being slain when the rearguard of the French king's army was cut to pieces in Laodicea. About 1150 Theobald, Archbishop of Canterbury, remonstrated with his widow, Ela, for detaining from the monks of Lewes Priory the tithes of her dower lands. She married (2nd) probably in or before 1152 (as his 2nd wife) PATRICK OF SALISBURY (otherwise known as PATRICK FITZ WALTER), 1st Earl of Salisbury [see LONGESPEE 3], hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Steward of the Household to Empress Maud, son and heir of Walter of Salisbury (also known as Walter Fitz Edward), of Chitteme, Wiltshire, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, North Aston, Oxfordshire, etc., hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Constable of Salisbury Castle, by Sibyl, daughter of Patrick de Chaources (or Sourches) [see LONGESPEE 2 for his ancestry]. They had four sons, William [2nd Earl of Salisbury], Patrick [Canon of Bradenstoke], Philip [Canon of Bradenstoke], and Roger. He was created Earl of Salisbury (or Wiltshire) about 1143; he occurs once as Earl of Wiltshire in the period, 1111 50. He witnessed a charter of Henry d'Oilly in the period, 1144-47. Sometime before 1148 he witnessed a charter of Roger Fitz Humphrey to the Templars. In 1153 he witnessed the treaty between King Stephen and Henry, Duke of Normandy [future King Henry II]. After the accession of King Henry II, he continued to act as Sheriff and was frequently at Court. He witnessed a charter of his brother-in-law, John Marshal, to the Templars in 1155-6. At an unknown date, he gave Bradenstoke Priory the church of Wilcot, with its dependent chapel at Draycot Fitz Payne, as well as a portion of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire. He also exchanged the property in Wilsford, Wiltshire given by his father, for the rest of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire, and also gave a salt pit in Canford, Dorset. His wife, Countess Ela, gave the same priory land and rents in Hatherop, Gloucestershire worth 100s. yearly. In 1167 he accompanied King Henry II to Poitou, where the king assigned him to protect his queen, Eleanor of Aquitaine. PATRICK, Earl of Salisbury was slain about 7 April 1168 by Poitevin nobles while riding near the castle of Lusigan in Poitou with Queen Eleanor. He was buried in the Abbey of St. Hilaire in Poitiers. Queen Eleanor and her son, Richard, subsequently founded an anniversary at St.-Hilaire for their salvation and for the soul of Earl Patrick "who died in our service." His widow, Ela, Countess of Salisbury, died 10 Dec. 1174.
Guizot Hist. des Ducs de Normandie par Guillaume de Jumiège (1826): 299 ("Guillaume Talvas Ce dernier eut deux fils et deux filles de son épouse Alix, qui avait eté mariée auparavant au duc de Bourgogne. Son fils aîné, Gui … L'une de ses lilies fut mariée a Joel, fils de Gauthier de Mayenne, qui eut de ce mariage plusieurs fils. L'autre filla épousa Guillaume de Warenne, comte de Surrey."). Sussex Arch. Colls. 11 (1859): 84 (Warenne ped.). Coll. Top. et Gen. 8 (1843): 81-82. Ellis Original Letters Ill. of English Hist. 3rd Ser. 1 (1846): 23-25 (letter of Thomas Becket to Ala, Countess of Warenne dated 1162-74) (author cites Reg. Priorat. Lewes. fol. 107 b. for death date of Ela, Countess of Surrey: "Domina Ala Comitissa Surregix, filia Comitis de Belesme et uxor Willielmi tertii. Obiit quarto Idus Decembris Anno gratiæ Millesimo et anno xxvito post virum suum. Ubi sepulta est nescitur."). Robertson Materials for the Hist. of Thomas Becket: Archbishop of Canterbury 1 (Rolls Ser.) (1875): 99-100 (Reynold de Warenne styled brother of Earl William [de Warenne] [frater germanus Willelmi comitis] by William of Canterbury). Genealogist n.s. 11 (1894): 132. Warner & Ellis Facsimiles of Royal & Other Charters in the British Museum 1 (1903): #25 (charter of William, Earl of Warenne dated c.1145-6; charter mentions his brother, Ralph de Warenne). Clay Early Yorkshire Charters 8 (1949): 12-13 [footnote 6 on pg. 12: William de Warenne styled "kinsman" [consanguineus] by King Louis VII of France]. C.P. 12(1) (1953): 496-497 (sub Surrey) ("He was probably the first to assume the checkered shield of gold and azure, differenced by the change of colour from the checkered shield borne by his half-brother Waleran, Count of Meulan."). Sanders English Baronies (1960): 128129. Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): XIII.434, XIV.74. Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 520 (Talvas ped). Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 297 (chart), 315 (Warenne ped.).”
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=== SOURCES: Royal Ancestors of Magna Carta ===
SOURCES: Royal Ancestors of Magna Carta Barons; by Collins, pgs. 54, 55, 186, 187, 206 & 240 Cokayne, Vol. I pg. 232; Vol. 11 pgs. 682, 686 & 695 Magna Charta; pgs. 189, 205 & 1617 Irish Pedegrees; pg. 56
=== Book: "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists who came to New England between 1623 and 1650" ===
!SOURCE: ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF SIXTY COLONISTS WHO CAME TO NEW ENGLAND BETWEEN 1623 AND 1650, 6TH ED, PG 83 LINE 83 ITEM 25; PG 102 LINE 108 ITEM 26 !SOURCE: ANCESTRAL FILE VERSION 4.02. 4.15
=== Book: "Royal Ancestors of Some American Families " by Call ===
!Royal Ancestors of Some American Families by Michel Call SLC 1989 #343, 466;
=== My PAF Notes ===
from thepeerage.com, 2/2009:
Ela Talvas
F, #4081, d. 4 October 1174
Ela Talvas|d. 4 Oct 1174|p409.htm#i4081|William Talvas, Comte de Ponthieu||p409.htm#i4082||||||||||||||||
Last Edited=30 May 2008
Ela Talvas was the daughter of William Talvas, Comte de Ponthieu.1 She married William III de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey , son of William II de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth de Vermandois .2 She died on 4 October 1174.
Child of Ela Talvas and William III de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey
Isabella de Warenne + b. c 1136, d. 13 Jul 11992
Citations
[S79 ] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry (Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004), page 747. Hereinafter cited as Plantagenet Ancestry.
[S6 ] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume XII/1, page 497. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
=== Additional Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“PATRICK OF SALISBURY (otherwise known as PATRICK FITZ WALTER), of Chitterne, Alton Barnes, Amesbury, Chicklade, Little Langford, Mildenhall, North Tidworth, Rockley (in Preshute), Shrewton, Somerford (in Great Somerford), Tollard (in Tollard Royal), and Wilcot, Wiltshire, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, Edgware, Middlesex, North Aston, Oxfordshire, etc., hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Steward of the Household to Empress Maud, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir, born as early as 1121 (of age in 1142). He married (1st) MAUD ___. They had no known issue. He was created Earl of Salisbury (or Wiltshire) about 1143; he occurs once as Earl of Wiltshire in the period, 1141-50. He witnessed a charter of Henry d'Oilly in the period, 1144-47. Sometime before 1148 he witnessed a charter of Roger Fitz Humphrey to the Templars. He married (2nd) probably in or before 1152 ELA (or ALA) OF PONTHIEU, widow of William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey (died 19 Jan. 1147/8) [see WARENNE 6], and daughter of Guillaume III Talvas, Count of Ponthieu and Alencon, by Ela, daughter of Eudes I Borel, Duke of Burgundy. They had four sons, William [2nd Earl of Salisbury], Patrick [Canon of Bradenstoke], Philip [Canon of Bradenstoke] and Roger. In 1153 he witnessed the treaty between King Stephen and Henry, Duke of Normandy [future King Henry II]. After the accession of King Henry II, he continued to act as Sheriff and was frequently at Court. He witnessed a charter of his brother-in-law, John Marshal, to the Templars in 1155-6. At an unknown date, he gave Bradenstoke Priory the church of Wilcot, with its dependent chapel at Draycot Fitz Payne, as well as a portion of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire. He also exchanged the property in Wilsford, Wiltshire given by his father, for the rest of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire, and also gave a salt pit in Canford, Dorset. His wife, Countess Ela, gave the same priory land and rents in Hatherop, Gloucestershire worth 100s. yearly. In 1167 he accompanied King Henry II to Poitou, where the king assigned him to protect his queen, Eleanor of Aquitaine. PATRICK, Earl of Salisbury was slain about 7 April 1168 by Poitevin nobles while riding near the castle of Lusigan in Poitou with Queen Eleanor. He was buried in the Abbey of St.-Hilaire in Poitiers. Queen Eleanor and her son, Richard, subsequently founded an anniversary at St.-Hilaire for their salvation and for the soul of Earl Patrick "who died in our service." His widow, Ela, Countess of Salisbury, died 10 Dec. 1174.
Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 16 (1813): 588-590 (letter of John of Salisbury to Master Girard Pulcelle dated 1168 states "Comes Patricius à rebellibus Pictavis occisus est."). Clutterbuck Hist. & Antiq. of Hertford 1 (1815): 371 (Longespée-Zouch ped.). Guizot Hist. des Ducs de Normandie par Guillaume de Jumiège (1826): 299 ("Guillaume Talvas Ce dernier eut deux fils et deux filles de son épouse Alix, qui avait eté mariée auparavant au duc de Bourgogne. Son fils ainé, Gui … L'une de ses filles fut mariée à Joel, fils de Gauthier de Mayenne, qui eut de ce mariage plusieurs fils. L'autre filla épousa Guillaume de Warenne, comte de Surrey."). Gentleman's Mag. 103 (1833): 402. Ellis Original Letters Ill. of English Hist. 3.1 Ser. 1 (1846): 23-25 (letter of Thomas Becket to Ala, Countess of Warenne dated 1162-74) (Mr. Ellis, the editor, cites Reg. Priorat. Lewes. fol. 107 b. for death date of Ela, Countess of Surrey: "Domina Ala Comitissa Surregiæ, filia Comitis de Belesme et uxor Willielmi tertii. Obiit quarto Idus Decembris Anno gratin Millesimo et anno xxvito post virum suum. Ubi sepulta est nescitur."). Memoirs illus. of the Hist. & Antiqs. of Wiltshire & the City of Salisbury (1851): 216-217 ("Patrick of Salisbury was a witness to king Stephen's treaty with Henry duke of Normandy, in the year 1153. Having taken part with the empress Maud in her struggle with Stephen, he was by her advanced to the dignity of Earl of Salisbury, and he occurs under that designation in the year 1165. Being lieutenant of Aquitaine for king Henry II., he went in pilgrimage to the shrine of Saint Iago in Gallicia; and on his way back was slain by Guy de Lusignan on the 27th March, 1168. His body was interred in the church of St. Hilary in Poictiers ... Patrick earl of Salisbury is supposed to have had two wives. Of one no more is known, except that "the soul of Matilda the countess, my wife" is recommended to the prayers of the canons of Bradenstoke in his charter to that priory. It is not improbable that his son Patrick, who occurs in another Bradenstoke charter, was the son of the countess Matilda. Earl Patrick's second wife was Ela, the widow of William earl Warren, who died in 1148 ... This Ela was the daughter of William Talvais comte of Ponthieu, by Helen, daughter of Odo duke of Burgundy. She died on the 10th Dec. 1174, having had issue, by her second marriage, William earl of Salisbury, and two or three younger sons, whose names alone are known from the monastic charters of Bradenstoke, Stanley, and Southwark."). Herald & Genealogist 6 (1871): 241-253. Money Hist. of Newbury (1887): 72-79 (Salisbury ped.). Salter Eynsham Cartulary 1 (Oxford Hist. Soc. 49) (1907): 75 ("The earliest mention of Patrick, as an Earl, hitherto known is in a deed of 1149 (`Geoffrey de Mandeville,' by Mr. J.H. Round, p. 271."). VCH Hertford 2 (1908): 201-207. Leys Sandford Cartulary 2 (Oxfordshire Rec. Soc. 22) (1941): 179 (charter of John Marshal), 228. Clay Early Yorkshire Charters 8 (1949): 12-13. C.P. 11 (1949): 375-377 (sub Salisbury); 12(1) (1953): 496-497 (sub Surrey). VCH Wiltshire 3 (1956): 275-288; 5 (1957): 44-71; 6 (1962): 213-221; 10 (1975): 8-13, 190-204; 12 (1983): 125-138, 160-184; 13 (1987): 79-88, 105-114; 14 (1991): 194-204; 15 (1995): 13-55, 153-163, 178-183, 242-252. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 112. Davis King Stephen (1967): 140 ("Patrick, Earl of Salisbury, was the son of Walter of Salisbury (d. 1147) who was possibly sheriff in the early years of Stephen's reign (Reg. iii. 684) and whose own father, Edward of Salisbury, had certainly been sheriff under William the Conqueror. Patrick was made earl at some date between 1141 and 1147. He was not an earl in Reg. iii. 839, but is so styled in a charter of Henry d'Oilly given betore the death of Earl Robert of Gloucester (31 October 1147) (Salter, Eynsham Carlidary, i. 75 (no. 71), Oxford Hist. Soc. xlix, 1906-7). His normal style was Earl of Salisbury, but in a charter of Henry fitz empress (1144-50) he was styled Earl of Wiltshire (Reg. iii. 704), and it may be assumed that, as in the case of Arundel-Chichester-Sussex, the titles were interchangeable."). VCH Middlesex 4 (1971): 155-157. VCH Oxford ll (1983): 6-21. Stacy Surveys of the Estates of Glasonbury Abbey, c. 1135-1201 (Recs. of Social & Econ. Hist. 33) (2001): 244 footnote 8,247 footnote 1. Thomas English & the Normans (2003): 121. Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 520 (Talvas ped). Stacy Charters & Custumals of Shaftesbury Abbey, 1089-1216 (2006): 67.
Children of Patrick, Earl of Salisbury, by Ela (or Ala) of Ponthieu:
i. WILLIAM FITZ PATRICK, 2nd Earl of Salisbury [see next].
ii. PATRICK OF SALISBURY, Canon of Bradenstoke. VCH Wiltshire 3 (1956): 275-288.
iii. PHILIP OF SALISBURY, Canon of Bradenstoke. Desc. Cat. Ancient Deeds 2 (1894): 73 (Countess Isabel [de Warenne] and her [half] brother, Philip, occur as witnesses to a charter of 0., prior of St Pancras, Lewes). VCH Wiltshire 3 (1956): 275-288.
iv. ROGER OF SALISBURY, living c.1140-55. Jackson Words, Names, & Hist.: Selected Papers Cecily Clark (1995): 330 ("Rogerus 'filius comitis de salesberi’").”
=== Notes and sources to Royal Ancestry ===
Guizot Hist. des Ducs de Normandie par Guillaume de Jumiège (1826): 299 ("Guillaume Talvas Ce dernier eut deux fils et deux filles de son épouse Alix, qui avait eté mariée auparavant au duc de Bourgogne. Son fils aîné, Gui … L'une de ses lilies fut mariée a Joel, fils de Gauthier de Mayenne, qui eut de ce mariage plusieurs fils. L'autre filla épousa Guillaume de Warenne, comte de Surrey."). Sussex Arch. Colls. 11 (1859): 84 (Warenne ped.). Coll. Top. et Gen. 8 (1843): 81-82. Ellis Original Letters Ill. of English Hist. 3rd Ser. 1 (1846): 23-25 (letter of Thomas Becket to Ala, Countess of Warenne dated 1162-74) (author cites Reg. Priorat. Lewes. fol. 107 b. for death date of Ela, Countess of Surrey: "Domina Ala Comitissa Surregix, filia Comitis de Belesme et uxor Willielmi tertii. Obiit quarto Idus Decembris Anno gratiæ Millesimo et anno xxvito post virum suum. Ubi sepulta est nescitur."). Robertson Materials for the Hist. of Thomas Becket: Archbishop of Canterbury 1 (Rolls Ser.) (1875): 99-100 (Reynold de Warenne styled brother of Earl William [de Warenne] [frater germanus Willelmi comitis] by William of Canterbury). Genealogist n.s. 11 (1894): 132. Warner & Ellis Facsimiles of Royal & Other Charters in the British Museum 1 (1903): #25 (charter of William, Earl of Warenne dated c.1145-6; charter mentions his brother, Ralph de Warenne). Clay Early Yorkshire Charters 8 (1949): 12-13 [footnote 6 on pg. 12: William de Warenne styled "kinsman" [consanguineus] by King Louis VII of France]. C.P. 12(1) (1953): 496-497 (sub Surrey) ("He was probably the first to assume the checkered shield of gold and azure, differenced by the change of colour from the checkered shield borne by his half-brother Waleran, Count of Meulan."). Sanders English Baronies (1960): 128129. Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): XIII.434, XIV.74. Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 520 (Talvas ped). Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 297 (chart), 315 (Warenne ped.).”
=== CONFLICT Americans of Royal Descent, C ===
CONFLICT Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, Genealogical Publishing Co, 196 9 (ALSO notes source as Royal Descent (or Talvas, SEE Doyle's "Official Baronage". Chapma n Family History, Beauchamp William Chapman, private publishing co., 1987 (states ADELA, dau . of William de TALVACE, their only dau.)
Preferred Parents:
Father: Guillaume III Talvas, b. 1087 in Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France d. 30 JUN 1171 in Alençon, Orne, Normandie, France
Mother: Hélène-Alix de Bourgogne, b. NOV 1080 in Bourgogne, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France d. 28 FEB 1141 in Neufchâtel-en-Saosnois, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
Family 1: Patrick d'Evreux I Earl of Salisbury, b. ABT 1122 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom d. 1167
- m. ABT 1149 in Wiltshire, England
- m. AFT 19 JAN 1147 in Wiltshire, England
- William FitzPatrick, b. 1154 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England d. 17 APR 1196 in Caen, Calvados, Duchy of Normandie, France
Family 2: Guillaume de Warenne, b. JUN 1118 in Cherbourg-Octeville, Manche, Lower Normandy, France d. 19 JAN 1148 in Laodicea on the Lycus, Asia Minor (Turkey)
- m. AFT 1147 in England
- m. ABT 1135
- Isabella de Warrene, b. ABT 1137 d. 12 JUL 1203 in Lewes, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
Sources:
- Title: Dictionary of National Biography
Author: Dictionary of National Biography, George Smith, Oxford Press, Vols 1-21 (Orignially published 1885-90),Ed by Sir Leslie S, Page number: XX:832
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Author: Ancestral File (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
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- Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain Americian Colonists
Author: Ancestral Roots of Certain Americian Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr, Page number: 83-25, 108-26
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- Title: Some "Colonial Dames" of Royal Descent
Author: Some "Colonial Dames" of Royal Descent, Charles Henry Browning, Bowie: Heritage Books, 2001, Page number: 11
Note: Reprint of original edition of 1900
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- Title: Ela d' Alencon (1120-1174) Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Author: Citations [S1105] Unknown author, Europaische Stammtafeln by Isenburg, chart 638, Vol. 3. [S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 432-433. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 595. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 272. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 303-304. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 747-748
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Note: Ela d' Alencon [1,2,3,4,5]
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #5777, b. circa 1120, d. 10 December 1174
Father Guillaume III, Count of Ponthieu, Alençon, & Montreuil-sur-Mer, Sire de Montgomery [2,3,5] b. c 1090, d. 29 Jun 1172
Mother Alice (Helie) of Burgundy [3,5] b. Nov 1080, d. 28 Feb 1141
Ela d' Alencon was born circa 1120. She married William de Warren, 3rd Earl of Surrey, son of William de Warenne, Earl of Warren & Surrey and Isabel de Vermandois, circa 1136; They had 1 daughter (Isabel, wife of William, Comte de Boulogne & Mortain, & of Hamelin, Vicomte de Touraine). [2,3,4,5] Ela d' Alencon married Patrick de Evereux, Earl of Salisbury, Sheriff of Wiltshire, son of Walter de Evereux, Sheriff of Wiltshire, Constable of Salisbury Castle and Sibilla de Chaworth, circa 1152; They had 4 sons (William, 2nd Earl of Salibury; Patrick, Canon of Bradenstoke; Philip, Canon of Bradenstoke; & Roger). [3,5] Ela d' Alencon died on 10 December 1174 at of Salisbury, Wiltshire, England. [3,5]
Family 1: William de Warren, 3rd Earl of Surrey b. c 1119, d. 19 Jan 1148
Children:
Gundred Warenne+ d. a 1167
Ela de Warren+ [6]
Isabel de Warren+ [6,2,5] b. c 1137, d. c 12 Jul 1203
Family 2: Patrick de Evereux, Earl of Salisbury, Sheriff of Wiltshire b. b 1120, d. 7 Apr 1168
Child : William, 2nd Earl of Salisbury+ [3] b. c 1150, d. 17 Apr 1197
- Title: Royal Index, University of Hull, England
Author: Royal Index, University of Hull, England, Internet, Internet, www.dcs.hull.ac.uk
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- Title: A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire
Author: A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire, Sir Bernard Burke {, Page number: 569, Warren, Earls of Surrey
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- Title: Royal Ancestry
Author: Guizot Hist. des Ducs de Normandie par Guillaume de Jumiège (1826): 299 ("Guillaume Talvas Ce dernier eut deux fils et deux filles de son épouse Alix, qui avait eté mariée auparavant au duc de Bourgogne. Son fils aîné, Gui … L'une de ses lilies fut mariée a Joel, fils de Gauthier de Mayenne, qui eut de ce mariage plusieurs fils. L'autre filla épousa Guillaume de Warenne, comte de Surrey."). Sussex Arch. Colls. 11 (1859): 84 (Warenne ped.). Coll. Top. et Gen. 8 (1843): 81-82. Ellis Original Letters Ill. of English Hist. 3rd Ser. 1 (1846): 23-25 (letter of Thomas Becket to Ala, Countess of Warenne dated 1162-74) (author cites Reg. Priorat. Lewes. fol. 107 b. for death date of Ela, Countess of Surrey: "Domina Ala Comitissa Surregix, filia Comitis de Belesme et uxor Willielmi tertii. Obiit quarto Idus Decembris Anno gratiæ Millesimo et anno xxvito post virum suum. Ubi sepulta est nescitur."). Robertson Materials for the Hist. of Thomas Becket: Archbishop of Canterbury 1 (Rolls Ser.) (1875
Note: see life sketch
- Title: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom
Author: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, Page number: XII/1:497
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- Title: The Magna Charta Barons and Their American Descendants
Author: The Magna Charta Barons and Their American Descendants, Charles Henry Browining, Name: Privately Published repr. Clearfield Company; Location:Philadelphia repr. Baltimore; Date: 1898 repr. 1969;, Page number: p.79
Note: Charles Henry Browining, The Magna Charta Barons and Their AmericanDescendants (Philadelphia repr. Baltimore, Privately Published repr.Clearfield Company, 1898 repr. 1969).
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- Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry
Author: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton {1968}, Page number: 112
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- Title: Ela Ponthieu - Medlands
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