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Guillaume de Warenne
- Preferred Name: Guillaume de Warenne[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
- Gender: M
- Occupation: Embassador to France to ratify an English-French treaty1138 in Paris, Île-de-France, France at LATI: N8.8667 LONG: E0.3333 with note: 'The Warenne View of the Past 1066–1203', Anglo-Norman Studies XXVI, Proceedings of the Battle Conference 2003, ed. John Gillingham (Boydell Press, Woodbridge. 2004), p. 105 (William III was born within a year of Robert de Beaumont's death in 1118.)
Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4, Das Feudale Frankreich und Sien Einfluss auf des Mittelalters (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989), Tafel 699
a b G. E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, Vol. XII/1 (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1953) p. 496
K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, Volume I Domesday Book (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1999), p. 371
G. E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, Vol. XII/1 (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1953) p. 497
Paul Dalton, Graeme J. White, King Stephen's reign (1135-1154) (Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 2008), p. 8
Farrer & Clay 1949, pp. 62, 80–81.
- Title (Nobility): from 1138 with note: Description: 3rd Earl of Surrey
- Alt. Birth: JUN 1118 in East Sussex, England at LATI: N0.9 LONG: E0.25
- Alternate+Birth+Date+and+Birthplace: JUN 1118 in East Sussex, England at LATI: N0.9 LONG: E0.25 with note: As per birth details in attached "Find A Grave Index"
- Death: 19 JAN 1148 in Laodicea on the Lycus, Asia Minor (Turkey) at LATI: N9 LONG: E5 with note: As per attached "Find A Grave Index"
Place of Death and Notation by KIMwarrenROBINSON52 (2022) "Killed in battle that took place against Turks in the 2nd Crusade occurred on 6 January 1148."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mount_Cadmus
- MilitaryService: Died during Second Crusade, Battle Of Mount Cadmus, Laodicea On The Lycus1148 in Eskihisar, Merkezefendi, Denizli, Turkey at LATI: N7.82 LONG: E9.1019 with note: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Warenne,_3rd_Earl_of_Surrey
Battle Of Mount Cadmus, Laodicea On The Lycus, Eskihisar, Denizli, Turkey
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Sir Knight
- FSID: K8KP-Z6V
- Birth: JUN 1118 in Cherbourg-Octeville, Manche, Lower Normandy, France at LATI: N9.6389 LONG: E1.625 with note: Info on Wicopedia
- military+: with note: Description: Battle of Mount Cadmus, killed defending King Louis VII of France.
Near Mount Cadmus, near the border between Rum and the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, Turkey (Killed in battle defending King Louis VII of France at the Battle of Mount Cadmus near Laodicea on the Lycus in Turkey)
- MilitaryService: 2nd Crusade to the HolylandBET 1147 AND 1149 in Ottoman Empire at LATI: N9 LONG: E5 with note: Near Mount Cadmus, near the border between Rum and the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, Turkey (Killed in battle defending King Louis VII of France at the Battle of Mount Cadmus near Laodicea on the Lycus in Turkey)
- Burial: 1148 with note: As per attached "Find A Grave Index"
- NFS ID: with note: Description: 9MHQ-WKF
NFS
- affiliation+in+the+Anarchy: with note: Description: Changed sides in the Civil War:
Enter service in 1137-age 19-he was in the service of King Stephen, when with other young nobles, including his half-brother Waleran,he fled the battle. In the battle of Lincoln they again fled at the initial charge and when Stephen was captured he joined Queen Matilda. At his release they rejoined the King and held to it solidly by his witness to a royal charter at Canterbury in 1141.
- MilitaryService: the Anarchy1137 in Lincolnshire, England with note: 'The Warenne View of the Past 1066–1203', Anglo-Norman Studies XXVI, Proceedings of the Battle Conference 2003, ed. John Gillingham (Boydell Press, Woodbridge. 2004), p. 105 (William III was born within a year of Robert de Beaumont's death in 1118.)
Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4, Das Feudale Frankreich und Sien Einfluss auf des Mittelalters (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989), Tafel 699
a b G. E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, Vol. XII/1 (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1953) p. 496
K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, Volume I Domesday Book (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1999), p. 371
G. E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, Vol. XII/1 (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1953) p. 497
Paul Dalton, Graeme J. White, King Stephen's reign (1135-1154) (Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 2008), p. 8
Farrer & Clay 1949, pp. 62, 80–81.
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey (1119 – 6 January 1148) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman who fought in England during the Anarchy and generally remained loyal to King Stephen. He participated in the Second Crusade.
He was the eldest son of William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138) by his wife Elizabeth de Vermandois. He was a great-grandson of King Henry I of France, and half-brother to Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester, Waleran IV de Beaumont, Count of Meulan, and Hugh de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Bedford.
Life
Still in his minority in 1137 he was serving with Stephen, King of England in Normandy being one of those young nobles who initially fled the battle. Stephen pursued them, held them and did his best to pacify them but did not make them fight. At his father's death in 1138, William became the third Earl of Surrey. At Easter 1138 he accompanied his half-brother Waleran de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Worcester on an embassy to Paris for the purpose of ratifying a treaty between the English and French kings. On 2 February 1141 he and his half-brother Waleran were again with King Stephen at the Battle of Lincoln but fled at the initial charge of the enemy forces.[5] They both joined Queen Matilda but on King Stephen's release they were once again among his followers, and William witnessed a royal charter at Canterbury in late 1141.
Charters
With his brother Ralph, William was a joint donor in numerous charters issued by his parents and was a witness to his father's charter, all to Longueville Priory near Rouen, Normandy (between 1130 and 1138). He was also a donor with his brother and both parents to the priory of Bellencombre (also near Rouen) in 1135. William was also the primary donor in a number of charters after his father died, between 1138 and 1147.One of particular instance occurred during a livery of seisin in 1147. At that event, William gave a large gift to the Lewes Priory which was secured with a lock of hair from his own and from his brother Ralph's head cut by Henry of Blois, bishop of Winchester, before the altar of the priory church. Lewes Priory had been founded by William's grandparents, William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey, and his wife Gundrada, probably in 1081.
Marriage and children
William married Adela (alias Ela), daughter of Count William III of Ponthieu, by his wife Helie daughter of Odo I, Duke of Burgundy. They had one child and sole-heiress, a daughter, Isabel de Warenne, suo jure 4th Countess of Surrey. She married firstly William of Blois (died 1159), the second son of king Stephen, who became Earl Warenne or Earl of Surrey. After he died childless in October 1159, she remarried to Hamelin, half-brother of King Henry II, who became Earl Warenne or Earl of Surrey. He adopted the surname "de Warenne", and the earldom continued in his descendants.
He was one of the nobles who, along with his second cousin, King Louis VII of France, took crusading vows at the Council of Vézelay in 1146, and he accompanied the initial army of the Second Crusade the next year. William was killed at the Battle of Mount Cadmus while the crusader army was marching across Anatolia on their way to the Holy Land. ... On 6 January 1148 they battled again in the area of Mount Cadmus, where Turks ambushed the infantry and non-combatants only, because they had become separated from the rest of the army. King Louis VII and his bodyguard of Knights Templars and noblemen recklessly charged the Turks. Most of the knights were killed, including William, and Louis barely escaped with his life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Warenne,_3rd_Earl_of_Surrey
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“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
"WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, son and heir, probably born in 1119. In June 1137 he was one of the nobles who deserted the army of King Stephen in Normandy. The king pursued them to Pont-Audemer, where he held William and other youths and did his best to pacify them, but did not dare make them fight. William was with his half-brother, Waleran, Count of Meulan, at Rouen 18 Dec. 1138, and at Oxford in 1139 or early in 1140. He was in the army of King Stephen at the Battle of Lincoln 2 Feb. 1140/1, but fled with his brother, Count Waleran, before the enemy's opening charge. However, the brothers soon rallied to the queen during the king's captivity and were with her in London about June 1141. After King Stephen's release in Nov. 1141, he witnessed royal charters at Canterbury at Christmas 1141 and at Ipswich in early 1142.
He married ELA (or ALA) OF PONTHIEU, daughter of Guillaume III Talvas, Count of Ponthieu and Alençon, by Ela, daughter of Eudes I Borel, Duke of Burgundy.
They had one daughter,
1. Isabel.
He took the cross on Palm Sunday 24 March 1145/6, and subsequently accompanied King Louis VIII of France on crusade in June 1147.
WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, died 19 Jan. 1147/8, being slain when the rear-guard of the French king's army was cut to pieces in Laodicea.
About 1150 Theobald, Archbishop of Canterbury, remonstrated with his widow, Ela, for detaining from the monks of Lewes Priory the tithes of her dower lands.
She married (2nd) probably in or before 1152 (as his 2nd wife) PATRICK OF SALISBURY (otherwise known as PATRICK FITZ WALTER), 1st Earl of Salisbury [see LONGESPEE 3], hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Steward of the Household to Empress Maud, son and heir of Walter of Salisbury (also known as Walter Fitz Edward), of Chitteme, Wiltshire, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, North Aston, Oxfordshire, etc., hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Constable of Salisbury Castle, by Sibyl, daughter of Patrick de Chaources (or Sourches) [see LONGESPEE 2 for his ancestry]. They had four sons, William [2nd Earl of Salisbury], Patrick [Canon of Bradenstoke], Philip [Canon of Bradenstoke], and Roger. He was created Earl of Salisbury (or Wiltshire) about 1143; he occurs once as Earl of Wiltshire in the period, 1111 50. He witnessed a charter of Henry d'Oilly in the period, 1144-47. Sometime before 1148 he witnessed a charter of Roger Fitz Humphrey to the Templars. In 1153 he witnessed the treaty between King Stephen and Henry, Duke of Normandy [future King Henry II]. After the accession of King Henry II, he continued to act as Sheriff and was frequently at Court. He witnessed a charter of his brother-in-law, John Marshal, to the Templars in 1155-6. At an unknown date, he gave Bradenstoke Priory the church of Wilcot, with its dependent chapel at Draycot Fitz Payne, as well as a portion of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire. He also exchanged the property in Wilsford, Wiltshire given by his father, for the rest of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire, and also gave a salt pit in Canford, Dorset. His wife, Countess Ela, gave the same priory land and rents in Hatherop, Gloucestershire worth 100s. yearly. In 1167 he accompanied King Henry II to Poitou, where the king assigned him to protect his queen, Eleanor of Aquitaine.
PATRICK, Earl of Salisbury was slain about 7 April 1168 by Poitevin nobles while riding near the castle of Lusigan in Poitou with Queen Eleanor. He was buried in the Abbey of St. Hilaire in Poitiers. Queen Eleanor and her son, Richard, subsequently founded an anniversary at St.-Hilaire for their salvation and for the soul of Earl Patrick "who died in our service."
His widow, Ela, Countess of Salisbury, died 10 Dec. 1174.
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#WiliamWarenneSurreydied1138B as of 3/9/2016
WILLIAM [III] de Warenne ([1119]-killed in battle Laodicea 19 Jan 1147). Guil
Death
Killed in battle against Turks in the 2nd Crusade in the area of Mount Cadmus, Turkey
=== [rmosher154.ged] Went on Crusade and ne ===
[rmosher154.ged] Went on Crusade and never returned, 1147.
=== A crusader who died in the Holy Land. Th ===
A crusader who died in the Holy Land. The Complete Peerage vol.XIIpI, p.496-7.
=== !Baronage1. Lord of Lewes, Reigate, and ===
!Baronage1. Lord of Lewes, Reigate, and Coninghsburgh; Lord of Bellenburgh and Mortemer in Normandy. 3rd Earl of Surrey and Warenne Lord of Lewes, Reigate, Coningsburgh, Lord of Bellencombre and Mortimer in Normandy. Was with Stephen's Army at Lisieux in June 1137. Succeeded his father in 1138. Was commander in King Stephen's army at Lincoln in 1142 when Matilda challenged Stephen for the crown of England, but he took early flight. During the king's imprisonment he remained loyal to the queen, and when Matilda's forces retreated from Winchester he pursued them. "Took the cross" in 1146 with Louis VII and a crowd of other nobles at Vesselai on Easterday, 31 Mar 1146. Accompanied the crusading army which set out in June 1147. In the march from Laodicea in Jan 1148 was helping to guard the rear of the army when he was cut off by the Turks and either killed on the spot or died after a very short captivity.
=== See Warren Family History Project online ===
See Warren Family History Project online.
William III was a crusader knight that died valiantly in battle at Mount Cadmus (near Laodicea, Turkey) on 8-Jan-1148. He was part of the elite force of King Louis VII (French) taking part in the failed 2nd Crusade. The battle is recorded by Odo de Deuil, personal chaplain to Louis, in his book De Profectione - pp 68-127.
=== William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey ( ===
William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey (1119?1148), was the eldest son of the William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth de Vermandois. He fought during the Anarchy generally remaining loyal to king Stephen. He was a crusader on the Second Crusade.
Still in his minority in 1137 he was serving with Stephen, King of England in Normandy being one of those young nobles who initially fled the battle. Stephen pursued them, held them and did his best to pacify them but did not make them fight. At his father's death in 1138, William became the third Earl of Surrey. At Easter 1138 he accompanied his half-brother Waleran de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Worcester on an embassy to Paris ratifying a treaty between the English and French kings. On February 2nd, 1141, he and his half-brother Waleran were again with King Stephen at the battle of Lincoln but fled at the initial charge of the enemy forces. They both joined Queen Matilda but on King Stephen's release they were once again among his followers, William witnessing a royal charter at Canterbury in late 1141.
He was one of the nobles that, along with his second cousin, Louis VII of France, took crusading vows at Vezelay in 1146, and he accompanied the initial army of the Second Crusade the next year. He was killed at the Battle of Mount Cadmus on 6 January 1148, while the crusader army was marching across Anatolia (modern day Turkey) on their way to the Holy Land. In December 1147 the French-Norman force reached Ephesus. They were joined by remnants of the army of the Holy Roman Empire, which had previously taken heavy losses at Dorylaeum. They marched across southwest Turkey and fought an unsuccessful battle at Laodicea on the border between Byzantine Empire and Seljuks of Rum (3-4 January 1148). On 8 January they battled again in the area of Mount Cadmus, where Turks ambushed the infantry and non-combatants only, because they had become separated from the rest of the army. King Louis and his bodyguard of Knights Templar and noblemen recklessly charged the Turks. Most of the knights were killed, including William, and Louis barely escaped with his life. His army arrived later at the coastal city of Adalia. The battle is recorded by Odo of Deuil, personal chaplain to Louis, in his book De Profectione on pages 68 through 127.
From the collection of Jerry Dean Ferren.
=== Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
"WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, son and heir, probably born in 1119. In June 1137 he was one of the nobles who deserted the army of King Stephen in Normandy. The king pursued them to Pont-Audemer, where he held William and other youths and did his best to pacify them, but did not dare make them fight. William was with his half-brother, Waleran, Count of Meulan, at Rouen 18 Dec. 1138, and at Oxford in 1139 or early in 1140. He was in the army of King Stephen at the Battle of Lincoln 2 Feb. 1140/1, but fled with his brother, Count Waleran, before the enemy's opening charge. However, the brothers soon rallied to the queen during the king's captivity and were with her in London about June 1141. After King Stephen's release in Nov. 1141, he witnessed royal charters at Canterbury at Christmas 1141 and at Ipswich in early 1142. He married ELA (or ALA) OF PONTHIEU, daughter of Guillaume III Talvas, Count of Ponthieu and Alençon, by Ela, daughter of Eudes I Borel, Duke of Burgundy. They had one daughter, Isabel. He took the cross on Palm Sunday 24 March 1145/6, and subsequently accompanied King Louis VIII of France on crusade in June 1147. WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, died 19 Jan. 1147/8, being slain when the rearguard of the French king's army was cut to pieces in Laodicea. About 1150 Theobald, Archbishop of Canterbury, remonstrated with his widow, Ela, for detaining from the monks of Lewes Priory the tithes of her dower lands. She married (2nd) probably in or before 1152 (as his 2nd wife) PATRICK OF SALISBURY (otherwise known as PATRICK FITZ WALTER), 1st Earl of Salisbury [see LONGESPEE 3], hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Steward of the Household to Empress Maud, son and heir of Walter of Salisbury (also known as Walter Fitz Edward), of Chitteme, Wiltshire, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, North Aston, Oxfordshire, etc., hereditary Sheriff of Wiltshire, Constable of Salisbury Castle, by Sibyl, daughter of Patrick de Chaources (or Sourches) [see LONGESPEE 2 for his ancestry]. They had four sons, William [2nd Earl of Salisbury], Patrick [Canon of Bradenstoke], Philip [Canon of Bradenstoke], and Roger. He was created Earl of Salisbury (or Wiltshire) about 1143; he occurs once as Earl of Wiltshire in the period, 1111 50. He witnessed a charter of Henry d'Oilly in the period, 1144-47. Sometime before 1148 he witnessed a charter of Roger Fitz Humphrey to the Templars. In 1153 he witnessed the treaty between King Stephen and Henry, Duke of Normandy [future King Henry II]. After the accession of King Henry II, he continued to act as Sheriff and was frequently at Court. He witnessed a charter of his brother-in-law, John Marshal, to the Templars in 1155-6. At an unknown date, he gave Bradenstoke Priory the church of Wilcot, with its dependent chapel at Draycot Fitz Payne, as well as a portion of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire. He also exchanged the property in Wilsford, Wiltshire given by his father, for the rest of the manor of Wilcot, Wiltshire, and also gave a salt pit in Canford, Dorset. His wife, Countess Ela, gave the same priory land and rents in Hatherop, Gloucestershire worth 100s. yearly. In 1167 he accompanied King Henry II to Poitou, where the king assigned him to protect his queen, Eleanor of Aquitaine. PATRICK, Earl of Salisbury was slain about 7 April 1168 by Poitevin nobles while riding near the castle of Lusigan in Poitou with Queen Eleanor. He was buried in the Abbey of St. Hilaire in Poitiers. Queen Eleanor and her son, Richard, subsequently founded an anniversary at St.-Hilaire for their salvation and for the soul of Earl Patrick "who died in our service." His widow, Ela, Countess of Salisbury, died 10 Dec. 1174.
Guizot Hist. des Ducs de Normandie par Guillaume de Jumiège (1826): 299 ("Guillaume Talvas Ce dernier eut deux fils et deux filles de son épouse Alix, qui avait eté mariée auparavant au duc de Bourgogne. Son fils aîné, Gui … L'une de ses lilies fut mariée a Joel, fils de Gauthier de Mayenne, qui eut de ce mariage plusieurs fils. L'autre filla épousa Guillaume de Warenne, comte de Surrey."). Sussex Arch. Colls. 11 (1859): 84 (Warenne ped.). Coll. Top. et Gen. 8 (1843): 81-82. Ellis Original Letters Ill. of English Hist. 3rd Ser. 1 (1846): 23-25 (letter of Thomas Becket to Ala, Countess of Warenne dated 1162-74) (author cites Reg. Priorat. Lewes. fol. 107 b. for death date of Ela, Countess of Surrey: "Domina Ala Comitissa Surregix, filia Comitis de Belesme et uxor Willielmi tertii. Obiit quarto Idus Decembris Anno gratiæ Millesimo et anno xxvito post virum suum. Ubi sepulta est nescitur."). Robertson Materials for the Hist. of Thomas Becket: Archbishop of Canterbury 1 (Rolls Ser.) (1875): 99-100 (Reynold de Warenne styled brother of Earl William [de Warenne] [frater germanus Willelmi comitis] by William of Canterbury). Genealogist n.s. 11 (1894): 132. Warner & Ellis Facsimiles of Royal & Other Charters in the British Museum 1 (1903): #25 (charter of William, Earl of Warenne dated c.1145-6; charter mentions his brother, Ralph de Warenne). Clay Early Yorkshire Charters 8 (1949): 12-13 [footnote 6 on pg. 12: William de Warenne styled "kinsman" [consanguineus] by King Louis VII of France]. C.P. 12(1) (1953): 496-497 (sub Surrey) ("He was probably the first to assume the checkered shield of gold and azure, differenced by the change of colour from the checkered shield borne by his half-brother Waleran, Count of Meulan."). Sanders English Baronies (1960): 128129. Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): XIII.434, XIV.74. Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 520 (Talvas ped). Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 297 (chart), 315 (Warenne ped.).”
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[[Category:Second Crusade]] [[Category: First Battle of Lincoln]]
----"WILLIAM (DE WARENNE) III, EARL OF SURREY, 1st son and heir, was born probably in 1119.
==Marriage==m. Ela; Ala; Adela [p. William Talvas (Talvace), Count of Ponthieu (Father: Robert de Belesmé, Earl of Shrewsbury) and Ela; m.2 Patrick de Evreux, Earl of Salisbury].[Ela or Ala, dau of William TALVAS, COUNT OF PONTHIEU (son of Robert DE BELLÊME, 3rd EARL OF SHREWSBURY), byEla, widow of Bertrand, COUNT OF TOULOUSE, and daughter of Eudes BOREL, DUKE OF BURGUNDY. ] Issue 1.
* Isabel (d. and h.)
==Military==Jun 1137: deserted Stephen's army in Normandy. The King pursued them to Pontaudemer, where he held William de Warenne junior and other youths and did his best to pacify them; but did not dare to make them fight.
He was with his half-brother Waleran, Count of Meulan, at Rouen on 18 Dec. 113 8, and at Oxford in 1139 or early in 1140.
Battle of Lincoln 2 Feb 1140/1: in Stephen's army, and with Waleran fled before the enemy's opening charge. However, the brothers soon rallied to the Queen and were with her in London about June 1141.
After the King's release on 1 November he witnessed royal charters at Canterbury at Christmas 1141 and at Ipswich early in 1142.
* Crusade 1147: Earl of Warrenne and Surrey took up cross and accompanied Louis of France, to Holy Land against the Saracens. He never returned. It's unknown if he died in battle or captivity.[Burke, 1883, p. 569]
: Palm Sunday, 24 Mar 1145/6: took cross
: Jun 1147: set off on crusade.
==Religion==* benefactor: priories of Lewes, Castle Acre, Nosteil and Thetford, the Templars and St. Mary's Abbey, York.
==Arms==He was probably the first to assume the chequered shield of gold and azure, differenced by the change of colour from the chequered shield borne by his half-brother Waleran, Count of Meulan.
==Death==He died s.p.m. 19 Jan 1147/8, slain when rearguard of French army was cut to pieces in the defiles of Laodicea (i). His widow married, probably in or before 1152, Patrick (DE SALISBURY), 1st EARL OF WILTSHIRE or SALISBURY (died 1168). She is said to have died 4 October 1174.[Complete Peerage XII/1:496-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
== Sources ==
* '''Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. V. page 274'''
* Burke, B. (1883). "Warren, Earls of Surrey." Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd. London, p. 569
* Cokayne, G.E. (2000). Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, (pp.XII/1:496-7). Sutton Publishing Ltd.
* Turton, W.H. (1968). The Plantagenet Ancestry, (pp.112).
* Weis, F.L. (1999). Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, (7th ed, pp.108-126).
* [[Wikipedia: William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey]]
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=== Wikipedia Biography ===
William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey (1119 – 6 January 1148) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman who fought in England during the Anarchy and generally remained loyal to King Stephen. He participated in the Second Crusade.
He was the eldest son of William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138) by his wife Elizabeth de Vermandois. He was a great-grandson of King Henry I of France, and half-brother to Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester, Waleran IV de Beaumont, Count of Meulan, and Hugh de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Bedford.
Life
Still in his minority in 1137 he was serving with Stephen, King of England in Normandy being one of those young nobles who initially fled the battle. Stephen pursued them, held them and did his best to pacify them but did not make them fight. At his father's death in 1138, William became the third Earl of Surrey. At Easter 1138 he accompanied his half-brother Waleran de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Worcester on an embassy to Paris for the purpose of ratifying a treaty between the English and French kings. On 2 February 1141 he and his half-brother Waleran were again with King Stephen at the Battle of Lincoln but fled at the initial charge of the enemy forces. They both joined Queen Matilda but on King Stephen's release they were once again among his followers, and William witnessed a royal charter at Canterbury in late 1141.
Charters
With his brother Ralph, William was a joint donor in numerous charters issued by his parents and was a witness to his father's charter, all to Longueville Priory near Rouen, Normandy (between 1130 and 1138). He was also a donor with his brother and both parents to the priory of Bellencombre (also near Rouen) in 1135. William was also the primary donor in a number of charters after his father died, between 1138 and 1147.One of particular instance occurred during a livery of seisin in 1147. At that event, William gave a large gift to the Lewes Priory which was secured with a lock of hair from his own and from his brother Ralph's head cut by Henry of Blois, bishop of Winchester, before the altar of the priory church. Lewes Priory had been founded by William's grandparents, William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey, and his wife Gundrada, probably in 1081.
Marriage & progeny
William married Adela (alias Ela), daughter of Count William III of Ponthieu, by his wife Helie daughter of Odo I, Duke of Burgundy. They had one child and sole-heiress, a daughter, Isabel de Warenne, suo jure 4th Countess of Surrey. She married firstly William of Blois (died 1159), the second son of king Stephen, who became Earl Warenne or Earl of Surrey. After he died without progeny in October 1159, she remarried to Hamelin, half-brother of King Henry II, who became Earl Warenne or Earl of Surrey. He adopted the surname "de Warenne", and the earldom continued in his descendants.
Death on crusade
He was one of the nobles who, along with his second cousin, King Louis VII of France, took crusading vows at Vezelay in 1146, and he accompanied the initial army of the Second Crusade the next year. William was killed at the Battle of Mount Cadmus while the crusader army was marching across Anatolia on their way to the Holy Land.
In December 1147 the French-Norman force reached Ephesus. They were joined by remnants of the army of the Holy Roman Empire, which had previously suffered heavy losses at the Battle of Dorylaeum in 1147. They marched across southwest Turkey and fought an unsuccessful battle at Laodicea (3–4 January 1148) on the border between the Byzantine Empire and the Sultanate of Rum. On 6 January 1148 they battled again in the area of Mount Cadmus, where Turks ambushed the infantry and non-combatants only, because they had become separated from the rest of the army. King Louis VII and his bodyguard of Knights Templars and noblemen recklessly charged the Turks. Most of the knights were killed, including William, and Louis barely escaped with his life. His army arrived later at the coastal city of Adalia. The battle is recorded by Odo of Deuil, personal chaplain to Louis, in his narrative De Profectione.
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=== William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey ===
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William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey (d. 1148), was the eldest sonof the William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth deVermandois. He was thus a great-grandson of Henry I of France, andhalf-brother to Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester, Waleran IVde Beaumont, Count of Meulan, and Hugh de Beaumont, 1st Earl ofBedford.
He was generally loyal to king Stephen. He fought at the Battle ofLincoln (1141), and was one of the leaders of the army that pursuedthe empress Matilda in her flight from Winchester, and which capturedRobert of Gloucester.
He was one of the nobles that, along with Louis VII of France, tookcrusading vows at Vezelay in 1146, and he accompanied the initial armyof the First Crusade the next year. He was killed by a Turkish attackwhile the army was marching across Anatolia on their way to the HolyLand.
William married Adela (or Ela), daughter of William Talvas, count ofPonthieu, who was the son of Robert of Bellême. They had one child, adaughter, Isabel, who was his heir. She married first William ofBlois, second son of king Stephen, and who became earl of Warenne orSurrey. After he died without children in October 1159, she marriedHamelin, half-brother of Henry II, who also became Earl of Warenne orSurrey. He took the de Warenne surname, and their descendents carriedon the earldom.
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EARLDOM OF SURREY
III. 3. WILLIAM (DE WARENNE) III, EARL OF SURREY, 1st son and heir,was born probably in 1119. In June 1137 he was one of the nobles whodeserted Stephen's army in Normandy. The King pursued them toPontaudemer, where he held William de Warenne junior and other youthsand did his best to pacify them; but did not dare to make them fight.He was with his half-brother Waleran, Count of Meulan, at Rouen on 18Dec. 113 8, and at Oxford in 1139 or early in 1140. On 2 February1140/1 he was in Stephen's army at the battle of Lincoln, and withWaleran fled before the enemy's opening charge. However, the brotherssoon rallied to the Queen and were with her in London about June 1141.After the King's release on 1 November he witnessed royal charters atCanterbury at Christmas 1141 and at Ipswich early in 1142. On PalmSunday, 24 March 1145/6, he took the cross, and in June 1147 he setoff on crusade. He was a benefactor to the priories of Lewes, CastleAcre, Nosteil and Thetford, the Templars and St. Mary's Abbey, York.He married Ela or Ala, daughter of William TALVAS, COUNT OF PONTHIEU(son of Robert DE BELLÊME, 3rd EARL OF SHREWSBURY), by Ela, widow ofBertrand, COUNT OF TOULOUSE, and daughter of Eudes BOREL, DUKE OFBURGUNDY. He died s.p.m. 19 January 1147/8, being slain when therearguard of the French King's army was cut to pieces in the defilesof Laodicea (i). His widow married, probably in or before 1152,Patrick (DE SALISBURY), 1st EARL OF WILTSHIRE or SALISBURY (died1168). She is said to have died 4 October 1174. [Complete PeerageXII/1:496-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
(i) He left an only daughter and heir Isabel. He was probably thefirst to assume the checkered shield of gold and azure, differenced bythe change of colour from the checkered shield borne by hishalf-brother Waleran, Count of Meulan.
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William de Warrenne (Earl of Warrenne), 3rd Earl of Surrey, zealouslyespoused the cause of King Stephen and had a chief command in the armyof that monarch in the battle fought at Lincoln between him and theadherents of the Empress Maud. His lordship m. Adela, dau. of WilliamTalvace, son of Robert de Belesmé, Earl of Shrewsbury, and had by her(who m. 2ndly, Patrick de Evreux, Earl of Salisbury) had an only dau.and heir, Isabel. In 1147, the Earl of Warrenne and Surrey assumed thecross and accompanoied Lewis, King of France, to the Holy Land againstthe Saracens. From this unfortunate enterprise the earl neverreturned, but whether he fell in battle or died in captivity has notbeen ascertained. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, andExtinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 569, Warren,Earls of Surrey]
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Name Suffix: Earl of Surrey[213.ged]
3rd Earl of Surrey
=== 3rd Earl of Surrey, who zealously the c ===
3rd Earl of Surrey, who zealously the cause of King Stephe n and had a chief command in the army of that monarch in th e battle fought at Lincoln, between him and the adherents o f the Empress Maud.
=== PEDIGREES OF SOME OF THE EMPEROR CHARLEM ===
PEDIGREES OF SOME OF THE EMPEROR CHARLEMAGNE'S DESCENDANTS, Vol. 2, Page 170; compiled by Aileen Lewers LANGSTON and J. Orton BUCK, Jr.; (1988); Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.; Baltimore. William De WARENNE, Third Earl of Surrey, b. June 1118; d. in battle at Laodici, Jan. 19, 1148; m. Adela De TALAVAC, d. at Castle Acre, Oct. 4, 1178. THE COMPLETE PEERAGE OF ENGLAND, (Second Edition); by George Edwards COKAYNE; Volume IV, Page 670.
Preferred Parents:
Father: William de Warenne II Earl of Surrey, b. 27 MAY 1065 in London, Middlesex, Inglaterra d. 11 MAY 1138 in Cluniac Priory, Southover, Lewes, Sussex, England
Mother: Elizabeth Isabelle de Vermandois, b. 1081 in Normandy, France d. 1131 in Sens, Saône-et-Loire, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, France
Family 1: ADELE TELVAS, b. 1110 in Lewes, Sussex, England d. 10 OCT 1174 in Castle Acre, Norfolk, England
- Isabella de Warrene, b. ABT 1137 d. 12 JUL 1203 in Lewes, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
Family 2: Ela , b. na 1127 d. 10 OCT 1174 in Wiltshire, England
- m. AFT 1147 in England
- m. ABT 1135
- Isabella de Warrene, b. ABT 1137 d. 12 JUL 1203 in Lewes, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
Sources:
- Title: North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000
Author: Book Title: The Tracy Family / The Winslow Family
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/61157/records/392376;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: William De Warenne 3rd Earl Of Surrey -
Author: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Page number: 108-26
Note: birth: about 1119; Lewes, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
- Title: William de Warren, 3rd Earl of Surrey (1119-1148), Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p203.htm#i6083 index to pedigrees [citations]
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p203.htm#i6083;
Note: William de Warren, 3rd Earl of Surrey [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8]
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #6083, b. circa 1119, d. 19 January 1148
Father William de Warenne, Earl of Warren & Surrey [9,10] b. 1071, d. 10 May 1138
Mother Isabel de Vermandois [9,10] b. 1081, d. b 17 Feb 1147
Charts Some Descendants of Charlemagne
William de Warren, 3rd Earl of Surrey was born circa 1119 at of Vermandois, France; Of age in 1142. [11,8] He married Ela d' Alencon, daughter of Guillaume III, Count of Ponthieu, Alençon, & Montreuil-sur-Mer, Sire de Montgomery and Alice (Helie) of Burgundy, circa 1136; They had 1 daughter (Isabel, wife of William, Comte de Boulogne & Mortain, & of Hamelin, Vicomte de Touraine). [4,11,7,8] William de Warren, 3rd Earl of Surrey died on 19 January 1148 at Leodicia, Turkey; Slain when the rearguard of the French King's army was cut to pieces. [11,8]
Family: Ela d' Alencon b. c 1120, d. 10 Dec 1174
Children:
Gundred Warenne+ d. a 1167
Ela de Warren+ [2]
Isabel de Warren+ [2,3,4,5,6,8] b. c 1137, d. c 12 Jul 1203
Citations:
1. [S1540] Unknown author, Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Gerald Paget, Vol. I, p. 180.
2. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 747-748.
3. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 200-201.
4. [S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 432-433.
5. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 363-364.
6. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 520.
7. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 272.
8. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 303-304.
9. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 270-271.
10. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 303.
11. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 595.
Page: Relationships, places, dates, names and 11 sources
- Title: William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey (1119 - 1148), Wikipedia
Author: William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Warenne,_3rd_Earl_of_Surrey
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Warenne,_3rd_Earl_of_Surrey;
Note: William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey (1119 – 6 January 1148) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman who fought in England during the Anarchy and generally remained loyal to King Stephen. He participated in the Second Crusade. He was the eldest son of William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138) by his wife Elizabeth de Vermandois. William married Adela (alias Ela), daughter of Count William III of Ponthieu (also called William Talvas). He was one of the nobles who, along with his second cousin, King Louis VII of France, took crusading vows at the Council of Vézelay in 1146, and he accompanied the initial army of the Second Crusade the next year. William was killed at the Battle of Mount Cadmus while the crusader army was marching across Anatolia on their way to the Holy Land.
- Title: Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-20, 22
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/1981/records/50033;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: William De Warenne 3rd Earl Of Surrey -
Author: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, Page number: 112
Note: death: 19 January 1148; Landes, France
birth: about 1119; Lewes, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
- Title: Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-20, 22
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/1981/records/50033;
- Title: William de Warenne, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2Y-2X6Z : 23 August 2022), William de Warenne, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 84483516, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2Y-2X6Z;
- Title: The Antigua Familia de Bosville pedigree by Robert Glover, 1586
Author: University of Hull, Family History Library, Hull, Yorkshire, England
Note: a Scroll, created by Robert Glover, 1586, College of Arms, Cartographer to Queen Elizabeth 1.
Page: The Antigua Familia de Bosville pedigree by Robert Glover, 1586
- Title: William de Warenne III (1118-1148), Find A Grave
Author: FindAGrave; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/84483516/william-de_warenne
Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/84483516/william-de_warenne;
Note: William de Warenne III
BIRTH Jun 1118 East Sussex, England
DEATH 6 Jan 1148 (aged 29) Turkey
BURIAL Unknown
MEMORIAL ID 84483516
William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey, was the eldest son of William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth de Vermandois. In April 1124, he married Eva Talvas, the daughter of William III of Ponthieude Montgomerie Talvas and Helie of Burgundy. They had one child, a daughter, Isabel, who was his heir. See, Wikipedia, "William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey", for more.
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: William De Warenne 3rd Earl Of Surrey - death: 19 January 1148; Landes, France
Author: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, The , by George E Cokayne, Sutton Pub, Page number: XII/1:496-497
Note: death: 19 January 1148; Landes, France
birth: about 1119; Lewes, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
- Title: William de Warenne 3rd Earl of Surrey - Medlands
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#WilliamWarenneSurreydied1148;
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