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Philip de Gai of Wooton Basset and Northbrook
- Preferred Name: Philip de Gai of Wooton Basset and Northbrook[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Gender: M
- Birth: 1122 in Gloucestershire, England at LATI: N1.8842 LONG: E2.1446
- LdsBaptism: 17 SEP 1934 with note: GEDCOM data
- FSID: GXJZ-L48
- Death: ABT 1177
- LdsSealingToParents: 18 DEC 1963 with note: GEDCOM data
- LdsEndowment: 30 JUN 1935 with note: GEDCOM data
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gai-2
Philip de Gai (or Gay) is the son of Stephen de Gai and probably an unnamed first wife. Stephen is mentioned as his father in an undated charter in which Philip confirms a grant by his father of the chapel of Northbrook and all the tithes to the church of St Mary of Kirklington.[1]
Philip is first mentioned in the chronicle of John of Worcester (formerly known as the work of Florence of Worcester) in 1138 in conjunction with the siege of Bristol castle, by King Stephen. This names Philip as a relation (cognatum) of Robert, Earl of Gloucester, the eldest illegitimate son of Henry I, King of England. See the Latin version[2]; and the English translation[3]
As Robert, Earl of Gloucester, also had a son Philip[4] the two men are often confused and in various Internet genealogies Philip de Gai, is often referred to as Philip FitzRobert de Gai, the son of Robert and his wife Mabel FitzHamon. However as can be seen from the above charter this is not correct.
Sources
↑ Crouch, David. "Robert of Gloucester's Mother and Sexual Politics in Norman Oxfordshire." Historical Research 72, no. 179 (1999): 323-33.
↑ Thorpe, Benjamin (ed.). Florentii Wigorniensis Monachi Chronicon ex Chronicis, Vol 2. London: Sumptibus Societatis. 1849. p. 109. Digital images. Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/florentiiwigorn00evergoog : viewed 11 June 2017.
↑ Forester, Thomas (trans. and ed.). The Chronicle of Florence of Worcester, with the two continuations. London: Henry G. Bohn. 1854. p. 262. Digital image. Internet Archive. https://archive.org/details/chroniclefloren00florgoog : viewed 11 June 2017.
↑ Cawley, Charles. "England, Earls created 1067-1122: Chapter 11B. Earls of Gloucester 1122-1225". Version 3.6, updated 19 April 2017. Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families. Foundation of Medieval Genealogy http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm : viewed 11 June 2017.
See Also
Ancestral Roots F.L. Weis 8th ed. 2004 Line 215-27
BIO
BIO: from http://cybergata.com/roots/1278.htm as of 6/10/2019
Philip de Gai of Wooton Basset & Northbrook
Born: Abt 1143, Wooton Basset, Wiltshire, England
Marriage: Cecily
Died: Bef 1190, Northbroo
Philip FitzRobert - Source Notes
Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson, Vol. 3 pg 85
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Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
PHILIP FitzRobert (-after 1147). The Gesta Stephani Regis records that "Philippum filium Glaornensis c
=== Source: A. Roots. Roots: Philip de Grey, ===
Source: A. Roots. Roots: Philip de Grey, Lord of Wooton Basset and Broadtown, Wiltshire.
=== M L Call: Cht 11671 # 2 ===
M L Call: Cht 11671 # 2
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.18, 22, 25; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
=== !#21> Complete Peerage-v5-p686fn(b), (FH ===
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=== ==Biography== ===
==Biography==
===Birth and parentage===Philip de Gai (or Gay) is the son of Stephen de Gai and probably an unnamed first wife. Stephen is mentioned as his father in an undated charter in which Philip confirms a grant by his father of the chapel of Northbrook and all the tithes to the church of St Mary of Kirklington.[Crouch, David. "Robert of Gloucester's Mother and Sexual Politics in Norman Oxfordshire." ''Historical Research'' 72, no. 179 (1999): 323-33.]
Philip is first mentioned in the chronicle of John of Worcester (formerly known as the work of Florence of Worcester) in 1138 in conjunctionwith the siege of Bristol castle, by King Stephen. This names Philipas a relation (cognatum) of Robert, Earl of Gloucester, the eldest illegitimate son of Henry I, King of England. See the Latin version[Thorpe, Benjamin (ed.). ''Florentii Wigorniensis Monachi Chronicon exChronicis'', Vol 2. London: Sumptibus Societatis. 1849. p. 109. Digital images. ''Internet Archive'' https://archive.org/details/florentiiwigorn00evergoog : viewed 11 June 2017.]; and the English translation[Forester, Thomas (trans. and ed.). ''The Chronicle of Florenceof Worcester, with the two continuations''. London: Henry G. Bohn. 1854. p. 262. Digital image. ''Internet Archive''. https://archive.org/details/chroniclefloren00florgoog : viewed 11 June 2017.]
As Robert, Earl of Gloucester, also had a son Philip[Cawley, Charles. [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc388773422 "England, Earls created 1067-1122: Chapter 11B. Earls of Gloucester 1122-1225"]. Version 3.6, updated 19 April 2017. Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families. Foundation of Medieval Genealogy http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm : viewed 11 June 2017.] the two men are often confused and in various Internet genealogies Philip de Gai, is often referred to as Philip FitzRobert de Gai, the son of Robert and his wife Mabel FitzHamon. However as can be seen from the above charter this is not correct.
== Sources ==
See also:
*Ancestral Roots F.L. Weis 8th ed. 2004 Line 215-27
* http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=17838154&pid=563420073* http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=7122234&pid=1524 * http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=13248593&pid=1493439789
=== Initially sided with his father in the c ===
Initially sided with his father in the civil wars but in 1144 hejoined King Stephen and went on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land. Hewitnessed a charter at Rouen in 1147.
=== Royal Ancestry Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ROBERT FITZ ROY, in right of his wife, of Gloucester, Bristol, Tewkesbury, and Cardiff, seigneur of Creully in Calvados, and Torigny in Manche, Normandy, illegitimate son, probably born about 1090. He witnessed charters of his father the king from about April 1113. He fought at the Battle of Brémulé in 1119, where his father, King Henry I, defeated King Louis VI of France. He married before 1122 MABEL FITZ ROBERT, daughter and heiress of Robert Fitz Hamon, of Gloucester, Bristol, Tewkesbury, and Cardiff, seigneur of Creully in Calvados, and Torigny in Manche, Normandy, hereditary Governor of Caen, by Sybil, daughter of Roger de Montgomery, Earl of Shrewsbury. They had six sons, William [Earl of Gloucester], Philip, Hamon, Roger [Bishop of Worcester], Richard [seigneur of Creully], and Robert, and two daughters, Maud and Mabel. By an unknown mistress, he also had an illegitimate son, Richard [Bishop of Bayeux]. He was created Earl of Gloucester between June and September 1122. In 1123 he brought a force to assist in the capture of Brionne Castle, which was held by rebellious Norman barons. In 1126 he had the custody of his uncle, Robert, Duke of Normandy, as a prisoner at Bristol, and later at Cardiff. The same year he secured a working relationship with the Welsh-dominated church of south Wales, under its aggressive bishop, Urban. In 1127 he did homage to the Empress Maud, recognizing her as his father's successor in the kingdom. In 1130 he sanctioned the foundation of Neath Abbey. In 1133, following the death of Richard, Bishop of Bayeux, he was sent by his father to Bayeux to enquire as to the fees and services due to the see by its barons, knights, and vavasours. He was present at his father's death at Lions-le-Forêt in Dec. 1135, and had 60,000 livres from him, apparently as executor. On Stephen's subsequent accession to the English throne and his recognition as Duke by the Normans, Robert gave up Falaise to his agents, but removed his father's treasure. In March 1136 he returned to England, and after Easter did homage for his English lands. About this time or in the following year he founded St. James's Priory at Bristol. In 1137 he accompanied Stephen to Normandy, but they quarrelled, and next year his English and Welsh estates were forfeited. Thereupon he prepared for war with Stephen and took up the cause of his half-sister, Maud, in Normandy. In Sept. 1139 he landed in England with Maud and took her to Arundel Castle, and became her commander-in-chief in the civil war that ensued. His first significant campaign, once the empress was established in England, was directed at the city of Worcester, which he sacked 7 November 1139. In May 1140 he was delegated by his sister to negotiate at Bath with the king' envoys, but nothing came of the meeting. Later in 1140 he and the Earl of Warwick led a successful raid on Nottingham. In 1141 he and his son-in-law, Ranulph, Earl of Chester, recruited a large army, including a force of Welsh under the kings of Glamorgan and Gwynedd. Their army encountered the king's army near Lincoln and dispersed it, capturing the king himself. The king was removed to Gloucester and then to Bristol, Earl Robert's principal English castle. He subsequently accompanied Maud in her progress to Winchester and London, and when the citizens drove her out, he fled with her to Oxford. He was captured at Stockbridge 14 Sept. 1141, and taken prisoner to Rochester. Shortly afterwards, he was exchanged for King Stephen. In June 1142 Maud sent him over to her husband, Geoffrey of Anjou, to urge him to invade England; Geoffrey declined to help until he had conquered Normandy, whereupon Robert joined him in the campaign. Sometime between 1141-3, probably in June 1142, he signed a treaty friendship with Miles, Earl of Hereford, by which the two men agreed to support each other, especially in the war between King Stephen and Empress Maud. In 1143 he defeated King Stephen at Wilton. In 1144 he blockaded Malmesbury, Stephen refusing to battle; but Maud's party was so much reduced that Stephen was able to take Faringdon, which Robert had fortified. He witnessed a charter of Henry d'Oilly in the period, 1144-47. In the spring of 1147 he took Henry, Maud's son, back to Wareham and sent him over to Anjou. In his last year, probably on his deathbed, he made moves to assist the Cistercians, who were attempting to set up a house in upland Glamorgan; the resultant abbey of Margam counted him as its founder. ROBERT FITZ ROY, 1st Earl of Gloucester, died at Bristol 31 October 1147, and was buried in the Priory church of St. James, BristoL His widow, Mabel, Countess of Gloucester, died 29 Sept. 1157.
Banks Genealogical Hist. of Divers Fams of the Ancient Peerage of England (1826): 301-305. Guizot Hist. des Ducs de Normandie par Guillaume de Jumiège (1826): 284-286 (Guillaume de Jumièges, Histoire des Normands, Liv. VIII, Chap. XXIX). D'Anisy Extrait des Chartes, et autres Actes Normands ou Anglo-Normands 1 (1834): 3-4 (charter of Roger de Creully, son of Richard, son of the Earl of Gloucester). Thorpe Florentii Wigorniensis Monachi Chronicon ex Chronicis 1 (1848): 109 (Chronicle of Florence of Worcester: sub A.D. 1138: Philip [de] Gai styled "kinsman" of Robert, Earl of Gloucester [quendam comitis cognatum Philippum Gal nuncupatum]). Orderici Vitalis Ecclesiasticæ Historicæ Lbri Tredecim 5 (1855): 112-113 ([Christian], wife of William Fitz Alan, styled "kinswoman" of Robert, Earl of Gloucester [neptem Rodberti comitis Gloucestræ]). Arch. Cambrensis 3rd Ser. 8 (1862): 274 (13th Cent. Chronicle sub A.D. 1147: "Fundata est Abbatia de Margan a Roberto Comite Gloucestriæ qui constuxit castrum et turrim et Prioratum bead Jacobi Bristolliæ, qui comes eodem anno obiit et sepultus est in dicto prioratu."), 274 (sub A.D. 1157: "Obiit Mabilia Comitissa Gloucestriæ."). Luard Annales Monastici 1 (Rolls Ser. 36) (1864): 47 (Tewkesbury Annals sub A.D. 1147: "Illustris comes Gloecestriæ Robertus oblit."), 48 (Tewkesbury Annals sub A.D. 1157: "Mabilia comitissa Gloucestriæ obiit"). Hart Historia et Cartularium Monasterii Sancti Petri Gloucestriæ 2 (Rolls Ser.) (1865): 10-11 (charter of Robert Fitz Roy, "counsul” of Gloucester dated 1139-47), 50 (charter of M[abel] Countess of Gloucester and her son, Earl William). Delisle Rouleaux des Morts du IXe au XVe Siècle (1866): 328-329. Handbook to the Cathedrals of England: Western Division (1874): 213-214. Arch. Cambnensis 4th Ser. 14 (1883): 7-63 ("Earl Robert was one of the greatest soldiers and most prudent, or perhaps astute, statesmen of his day."). Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 23 (1894): 580 (Notæ Monasterii Montis Sancti Michaelis: "29 Sept. [Obiit] Mabilia comitissa."), 581 (Notæ Monasterii Montis Sancti Michaelis: "31 Oct. [Obiit] Robertus comes."). Revue Catholique de Normandie 5 (1895): 550-554. Two Cartularies of the Augustinian Priory of Bruton & Cluniac Priory of Montacute (Somerset Rec. Soc. 8) (1894): 183-184 (two undated charters of Robert, Earl of Gloucester, son of the king, both of which name his wife, Countess Mabel). Round Cal. of Docs. Preserved in France 1 (1899): 504 (Nigel Fitz William, owner of lands at Fécamp, styled "kinsman" [nepos] of Robert, Earl of Gloucester in charter dated c.1128) [see also VCH Middlesex 2 (1911): 400; Davis Regesta Regum Anglo-Normannorum 1066-1154 2 (1956): 221, 362]. Salter Eynsham Cartulary 1 (Oxford Hist. Soc. 49) (1907): 75. D.N.B. 16 (1909): 1242-1244 (biog. of Robert, Earl of Gloucester). C.P. 5 (1926): 683-686 (sub Gloucester); 11 (1949): Appendix D, 105-121. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 6. R. B. Patterson William of Maltnesbury's Robert of Gloucester: a Re-evaluation of the Historia Novella,' American Hist. Rev. 70 (1964-5): 983-997. Davis King Stephen (1967): 134 ("Robert fitz Roy or Robert de Caen, so called because he was the illegitimate son of Henry I by (probably) Sibyl daughter of Robert Corbet burgess of Caen, was created earl of Gloucester between June and September 1120 (Round, Geoffry de Mandeville 420 ff). On Henry I's death he at first hoped to raise Theobald Count of Blois to the throne, but eventually recognized Stephen as king in April 1136. After much hesitation he 'defied' Stephen after 22 May 1138, and from then until his death (31 October 1147) was the principal supporter of the empress Matilda."). Patterson Earldom of Gloucester Charters (1973). Coss Langley Cartulary (Dugdale Soc. 32) (1980): 11 (charter of Robert, Earl of Gloucester dated 1122-35). D. Crouch, 'Robert, earl of Gloucester, and the daughter of Zelophehad,' Jour. of Medieval Hist. 11(1985): 227-243. Green Government of Henry I (1986). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): XII.658, XIII.1001-XIII.1005, X111.1179. Caenegem English Lawsuits from William I to Richard II (Selden Soc. 106) (1990): 191, 194-195, 249-250; 2 (Selden Soc. 107) (1991): 420-421, 600-601. Chibnall Empress Matilda (1991). Clanchy From Memory to Written Rec., England 1066-1307 (1993): 54-55. Reedy Basset Charters c.1120 to 1250 (Pubs. Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 50) (1995): 25-26 (charter dated 1146-7 of Empress Maud daughter of King Henry I and her son, Henry; charter witnessed by Robert, Earl of Gloucester, and Robert Fitz Roy). Crouch 'Robert of Gloucester' Mother & Sexual Politics in Norman Oxfordshire,' Fryde & Greenway Handbook of British Chronology (1996): 35. BIHR 72 (1999): 323-333. Crouch Reign of King Stephen, 1135-1154 (2000): 215 (Philip de Gay styled "kinsman" of Robert, Earl of Gloucester [quendam comitis cognatum Philippum Gal nuncupatum]). Hollister Henry I (2003). Johns Noblewomen, Aristocracy & Power in the 12th Cent. Anglo-Norman Realm (2003): 94-95. Jour. of Medieval Hist. 29 (2003): 129-151. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (2004) (biog. of Robert, first earl of Gloucester: "Robert of Gloucester was one of the great ari
=== From the collection of Jerry Dean Ferren ===
From the collection of Jerry Dean Ferren.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Robert FitzRoy 1st Earl of Gloucester, b. ABT 1090 in Caen, Calvados, France d. 31 OCT 1147 in Bristol Castle, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Mother: Mabel Maud Fitzrobert Of Gloucester, b. 1090 in Gloucestershire, England d. 29 SEP 1157 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Family 1: Cecily Berkerley, b. 1135 in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England d. 16 JUN 1190 in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England
- Aline de Gai, b. 1160 in Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England d. 17 JUN 1229 in Lancashire, England
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Philip Fitzrobert De Grey - birth-name: Philip Fitzrobert De Grey
Author: Ancestry Family Trees, Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;;, Page number: Ancestry Family Trees
Note: birth-name: Philip Fitzrobert De Grey
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Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by
Ancestry members.;), This information comes from 1 or more individual
Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a
current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files
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- Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
Author: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, p.2604.
Note: [PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
[Page] 2604
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- Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Author: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Lastly, I should mention that in recent time, there was an article on.
Note: Source Media Type: Electronic.
[PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
[S:Note] Source Media Type: Electronic
[Page] Lastly, I should mention that in recent time, there was an article on
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- Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700
Author: Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1992, seventh edition, pp.215-27.
Note: "Philip de Grey."
[PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700
[S:Auth] Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr.
[S:Publ] Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1992, seventh edition
[Page] 215-27
[Text] Philip de Grey
[/PFT]
- Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom
Author: G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Sutton Publishing Ltd, XII/1:608.
Note: [PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom
[S:Auth] G. E Cokayne
[S:Publ] Sutton Publishing Ltd
[Page] XII/1:608
[/PFT]
- Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Author: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Douglas Richardson, 18 Dec 2002.
Note: Source Media Type: Electronic. "Philip de Gay."
[PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
[S:Note] Source Media Type: Electronic
[Page] Douglas Richardson, 18 Dec 2002
[Text] Philip de Gay
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