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Joan de Lacy
- Preferred Name: Joan de Lacy[1]
- Gender: F
- Death: AFT 12 FEB 1222 in England
- FSID: GFT8-L59
- Birth: 1177 in Lincolnshire, England
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Her parents ARE John de Lacy and Alice FitzRoger de Warkworth:
Pages 214-215 in Vol I of Douglas Richardson's Royal Ancestry:
5. PETER DE BRUS, Knt, of Skelton, Danby, Thorp Arches, and Walton, Yorkshire, son and heir. He married JOAN OF CHESTER, daughter of John, hereditary Constable of Chester, of Halton, Cheshire, Bilhaugh and Harworth, Nottinghamshire, etc., by Alice, daughter of Roger Fitz Richard, of Warkworth, Northumberland [see LACY 1 for her ancestry]. Her maritagiurn included land and a mill at Knottingley, Yorkshire. They had one son, Peter. In 1198 he paid relief for his father's lands. In the period, 119LC1203, he confirmed to Guisborough Priory three bovates of land in Normanby granted by Richard Lost and Stephen son of Henry de Percy. In the same period, he confirmed to Guisborough Priory half a carucate in Brotton granted by his father, Adam de Brus, and two bovates of land in Brotton granted by Robert de Turnham. He was frequently present at King John's court, witnessing at least 13 of the king's charters between 1199 and 1213. In 1199 he sued his cousin, William de Brus, of Annandale in Scotland, regarding lands in Hartness; Peter subsequently quitclaimed the lands to William and his heirs, which William agreed to hold of Peter and his heirs for the service of two fees. About 1200 he witnessed a charter of Adam de Cridling to his brother-in-law, Roger de Lacy, Constable of Chester. About 1200 he and his wife, Joan, granted the monks of St. John of Pontefract a toft in Knottingley, Yorkshire. In 1203 he was sued by his half-sister, Agnes (de Flamville) de Percy, regarding her dower rights to a one third share of lands in Crathorne and Battersby, which her late husband had held of Peter. He was among the northern batons who met King John in the north in 1213. At an unknown date, he granted ten marks yearly in the mill of Knottingley, Yorkshire, which property he received in marriage with his wife, Joan, for the support of two canons, priests, celebrating in their church of the Park of Healaugh in the honour of St. James. SIR PETER DE BRUS died 12 Feb. 1222.
Coll. Top. et Gen. 4 (1837): 261-262 (Brus obits from calendar held by Gisburne Priory: “Orbitus Petri de Brus pimi. 16. K1. Februarii. [17 January].”'). Ord Hist. & Antiqs. of Cleveland (1846): 245-252. Fauconberge Fauconberge Memorial (1849): 62 (Fauconberge ped.). Forrest Hist. & Antiqs. of Knottingley (1871): 37-38. Flower Vis. of Yorkshire l563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 40 (Brus ped.: “Peter Brus ohiir in Ao 1211. = [left blank].”). Brown Cartularium Prioratus de Gyseburne 2 (Surtees Soc. 89) (1894): 1, 4-5, 7 , 27, 38, 42, 45-46, 62, 98, 101, 132-133, 138-140, 171, 188-190, 192-196, 198, 235-237, 239, 328-329. Holmes Chartulary of St. John of Pontefract 1 (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Recs. 25) (1899): li-lii, 262-265, 272, 299-300; 2 (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Recs. 30) (1902): 485 (charter of Adam de Cridling to Roger de Lascy, Constable of Chester dated c.1200). Clay Extinct & Dormant Peerages (1913): 115-116 (sub Lacy). Farrer Early Yorkshire Charters 2 (1915): 15 (Brus ped.). Harvy et al. Vis. of the North 3 (Surtees Soc. 144) (1930): 152-156 (Brues ped.: “Petrus de Bruys primus”). Fauconberge Fauconberge Memorial (l849): 62 Fauconberge ped). Purvis Chartulary of the Augustinan Priory of St. John the Evangelist of Parj of Healaugh (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser 92) (1936): 151-152 (undated charter of Peter de Brus; charter names his wife, Joan). Wardell Hist. of Yarm (1957): 16. Yorkshire Arch. Jour. 47 (1975): 69-79. Thomas Vassals, Heiresses, Crusaders & Thugs: The Gentry of Angevian Yorkshire, 1115-1216 (1993): 206. Blakely Brus Fam. in England & Scotland, 1100-1295 (2005): 158 (“Although little is known about Peter I [de Brus];s wife, Joan, her maritagium included land and a mill at Knottingley in the Lacy fief. While the editor of the Pontefract cartulary believed that Joan was related to a tenant rather than the lord of the honor, the standing of the Brus family at the end of the twelfth century points to the later assumption.”). Legg Lost Cartulary of Bolton Priory (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. 160) (2009): 82-85.
Joanna de Lacy (de Brus) Parentage Evidence Geni Discussion
https://www.geni.com/discussions/249126?authenticity_token=tWZpNDahJkS2mH9WULQpti5jwI7XVZHXCIcVlqH5AO4%3D&by_or_about=6000000184726513837&page=1
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Preferred Parents:
Father: John de Lacy, b. ABT 1144 in Clavering, Essex, England d. 11 OCT 1190 in Acre
Mother: Alice de Essex, b. 1144 in Rycott, Oxfordshire, England d. 11 OCT 1190 in Tyre, As Suwaydā', Syria
Family 1: Peter de Brus Lord of Skelton, b. ABT 1170 in Skelton Castle, Yorkshire, England d. 27 JAN 1211 in Skelton Castle, North Yorkshire, England
- m. BEF 1190 in Skelton, Yorkshire, England
- Peter de Brus II, b. ABT 1190 in Skelton, Yorkshire, England d. 7 SEP 1241 in Marseilles, France
Sources:
- Title: KEEPING IT IN THE FAMILY: SEX, SCANDAL AND REBELLION IN BARONIAL CLEVELAND
Publication: Name: https://photos.geni.com/p13/81/0d/65/58/53444860f5be5445/keeping_it_in_the_family_sex_scandal_and_original.pdf;
Note: ABSTRACT
This paper explores evidence that Joan, the wife of Peter de Brus, Lord of Skelton was a sister of Roger de Lacy, Constable of Chester, and by tracing the devolution of her marriage portion of an estate in Knottingley, into the Meinell family, the author concludes that it was common descent from this couple which caused serious problems for their descendants, Nicholas de Meinell and Lucy de Thweng, whose notorious love affair, resulted in accusations of incest by the church. Foundations (2013) 5: 3-36 © Copyright FMG and the author
Page: Joanna's relationship to John de Lacy, Roger de Lacy, Peter de Brus I, and Alice FitzRoger de Warkworth.
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