Robert de Aguillon

• Preferred Name: Robert de Aguillon^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: LHDP-984
  
• Death: ABT 1249 in Addington, Surrey, England at LATI: N1.35 LONG: E0.0333
  
• Birth: ABT 1186 in Withyham, Sussex, England at LATI: N1.101 LONG: E0.1343
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  "Confirmation in free arms by Robert Aguilan with the consent of Margaret his wife to Sibton of the grant by William de Fraxineto father of Margaret" (before 1239). (Ref: Sibton Abbey cartularies and charters, Part 2 By Philippa Brown)
  
  28 Apr 1230 - "Order to the barons of the Exchequer to place in respite the demand they make by summons of the Exchequer from Robert Aguillon on behalf of the son and heir of John de Rocheford, who is in his custody, for the prest made to John in Ireland in the time of King John etc., for as long as Robert will be in overseas parts with H. de Burgh etc." (Ref: Henry III Fine Rolls, 14/322)
  
  15 Nov 1232 - "Robert Aguillon has made fine with the king by 100 m. for having custody of the land and heirs of Guy de Rocheford until the legal age of the aforesaid heirs, together with the marriage of the same heirs. Order to P. de Rivallis that, having accepted security from him for rendering the aforesaid 100 m. at two terms, namely a moiety at Easter in the seventeenth year and the other moiety at Michaelmas in the same year, he is to cause Robert to have full seisin of that custody with appurtenances, as aforesaid. The same Robert has letters patent for it." (Ref: Henry III Fine Rolls, 17/24 & 25)
  
  21 Mar 1233 - "Norfolk. The same Arnulf gives the king 1 m. for having a writ of novel disseisin before W. Raleigh and Adam son of William at Lynn in the octaves of the Close of Easter against Robert Aguillon and John de Merlay, concerning a tenement in Harling." (Ref: Henry III Fine Rolls, 17/159)
  
  30 Mar 1242 - "Fen Ditton. By the kings licence Robert Aguillon may remain in England so that, at present, he will not cross the seas with the king. Order to the sheriff of Norfolk not to cause any impediment or harm to him, or permit any to be brought against him, by reason of the general summons made for the crossing to overseas parts, saving his scutage to the king." (Ref: Henry III Fine Rolls, 26/240)
  
  === Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, ===
  Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, in a post-em, states:
  
  ROBERT, [the original, and possibly only Robert--existence of a 2nd Robert (as father) is speculative at this time]], son and heir. [details of his career from 1203 to 1232 are given. Paget says this is the elder Robert, but as I said before, I
  wonder whether there may really be two Roberts in succession here.] Ref: Chris Phillips 6 Oct 2001] Research note: there is question as to the accuracy of Paget's Peerage - until corroborating sources confirm the above, I leave Robert as the
  1st of the line... Curt
  
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  following is the argument for a 2 Robert theory, of which this Robert is the younger, put forth by Chris Phillips (which I have followed):
  
  Paget gives further details of the "elder" Robert's career, from 1203 to 1227, and says he married Agatha, dau and coheir of Fulk Beaufoy [citing Blomefield's History of Norfolk], and says he had 4 daughters by her (repeating some of the errors
  about the daughters). He adds that Robert married secondly Alice, widow of John de Wahull (d.1217) [citing Bracton's Notebook, no 1182] and daughter of William de Munchensi, and that Robert was still living 1232.
  
  Having said that, we know that the mother of the "elder" Robert's 4 daughters was not in fact Agatha de Beaufo, but Margery, daughter of William de Fresney. Also that at least two of these daughters gave birth to their heirs around 1240. And
  that C.J. Phillips in his History of the Sackville Family makes Agatha de Beaufo the mother of Robert, not his wife.
  
  So could it be that there are two Roberts here - the first who was active by 1203 and married Agatha de Beaufo, and the second who married Margery de Fresney and died around 1249 leaving 4 daughters and a widow Alice "de Merley/Marley"? Perhaps
  this Alice is the same one mentioned above, in any case. [Ref: Chris Phillips, message to soc.genealogy.medieval, 24 Sep 2001]
  
  Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
  
  Page: X:658
  
  *Forrest=fathers direct line,! dna connections
  @Stolp=mothers direct line
  +Tamer=husbands direct line
  #Wallace & ^Stuetelberg=son-in-laws direct lines
  all lines separated.With multiple marks cross over lines
  without documentations all is speculative/with ???
  
  === !GENERAL:Pedigree Resource File CD 4, Pe ===
  !GENERAL:Pedigree Resource File CD 4, Pedigree Resource File CD 4, (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 1999)
  
  === !Also of Perching ===
  !Also of Perching
  
  === !Ancestral File 1996 ===
  !Ancestral File 1996
  
  === Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, ===
  Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, in a post-em, states:
  
  Paget's Baronage makes Robert (d. by c.1249) the son and heir of Richard, 3rd son of Manasser, 2nd son of Manasser (living 1156). (I suspected that there might be two Roberts in succession instead.) [Ref: Chris Phillips, message to soc.genealogy.medieval, 19 Jun 2002]
  
  Paget says that the younger Robert's father was a second cousin of the elder Robert, but perhaps this is slightly wrong… The common ancestor is said to be Manasser Aguillon, living 1156, who had a son and heir William… William had a grandson William (… I didn't note the intervening generation), who died shortly before 3 Oct 1244, when his son Robert did homage and had livery [citing Rot. Fin. 28 Henry III, m.2]. This Robert was the younger of the Roberts… says Paget.
  
  Going back to Manasser, Paget says he had a second son Manasser, living 1172, and that the younger Manasser had a third son Richard, who married Ela de Frivill or Freville, by whom he had a son Robert. Richard and Robert appear as witnesses in 1201 [citing Cal. Docs. France i no 1403]. Paget says that this son Robert was the elder one…
  
  Paget gives further details of the "elder" Robert's career, from 1203 to 1227, and says he married Agatha, dau and coheir of Fulk Beaufoy [citing Blomefield's History of Norfolk], and says he had 4 daughters by her (repeating some of the errors about the daughters…). He adds that Robert married secondly Alice, widow of John de Wahull (d.1217) [citing Bracton's Notebook, no 1182] and daughter of William de Munchensi, and that Robert was still living 1232.
  
  Having said that, we know that the mother of the "elder" Robert's 4 daughters was not in fact Agatha de Beaufo, but Margery, daughter of William de Fresney. Also that at least two of these daughters gave birth to their heirs around 1240. And that C.J. Phillips in his History of the Sackville Family makes Agatha de Beaufo the mother of Robert, not his wife.
  
  So could it be that there are two Roberts here - the first who was active by 1203 and married Agatha de Beaufo, and the second who married Margery de Fresney and died around 1249 leaving 4 daughters and a widow Alice "de Merley/Marley"? Perhaps this Alice is the same one mentioned above, in any case. [Ref: Chris Phillips, message to soc.genealogy.medieval, 24 Sep 2001]
  
  === !The Complete Peerage GS 942 D22 cok Vol ===
  !The Complete Peerage GS 942 D22 cok Vol 9 p. 21.
  
  === Ancestral File Number: FQDQ-C4 ===
  Ancestral File Number: FQDQ-C4
  
  === !I J Sanders English Baronies GS 942 R2s ===
  !I J Sanders English Baronies GS 942 R2sa p.114. Aristocratic & Royal Ancestors GS 929.242 H249t p. 536. The Complete Peerage GS 942 D22 cok Vol 9 p. 21.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === Ancestral File Number: B455-3B ===
  Ancestral File Number: B455-3B
  
  === Court Records ===
  "Confirmation in free arms by Robert Aguilan with the consent of Margaret his wife to Sibton of the grant by William de Fraxineto father of Margaret" (before 1239). (Ref: Sibton Abbey cartularies and charters, Part 2 By Philippa Brown)
  
  28 Apr 1230 - "Order to the barons of the Exchequer to place in respite the demand they make by summons of the Exchequer from Robert Aguillon on behalf of the son and heir of John de Rocheford, who is in his custody, for the prest made to John in Ireland in the time of King John etc., for as long as Robert will be in overseas parts with H. de Burgh etc." (Ref: Henry III Fine Rolls, 14/322)
  
  15 Nov 1232 - "Robert Aguillon has made fine with the king by 100 m. for having custody of the land and heirs of Guy de Rocheford until the legal age of the aforesaid heirs, together with the marriage of the same heirs. Order to P. de Rivallis that, having accepted security from him for rendering the aforesaid 100 m. at two terms, namely a moiety at Easter in the seventeenth year and the other moiety at Michaelmas in the same year, he is to cause Robert to have full seisin of that custody with appurtenances, as aforesaid. The same Robert has letters patent for it." (Ref: Henry III Fine Rolls, 17/24 & 25)
  
  21 Mar 1233 - "Norfolk. The same Arnulf gives the king 1 m. for having a writ of novel disseisin before W. Raleigh and Adam son of William at Lynn in the octaves of the Close of Easter against Robert Aguillon and John de Merlay, concerning a tenement in Harling." (Ref: Henry III Fine Rolls, 17/159)
  
  30 Mar 1242 - "Fen Ditton. By the kings licence Robert Aguillon may remain in England so that, at present, he will not cross the seas with the king. Order to the sheriff of Norfolk not to cause any impediment or harm to him, or permit any to be brought against him, by reason of the general summons made for the crossing to overseas parts, saving his scutage to the king." (Ref: Henry III Fine Rolls, 26/240)
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 9G55-2S ===
  Ancestral File Number: 9G55-2S
  
  === This generation of Robert Aguillon is no ===
  This generation of Robert Aguillon is not sourced. I am making the assumption based on the date of birth of Robert Aguillon m. Joan de Ferrers .vs. the age of his parents (without this generation of Robert in between). Plus the Margery de Aguillon who m. Jordan Sackville is apparently not the same as the Margery de Aguillon who m. Giles de Argentein, because they were both married to different husbands at about the same time. The Margery who m. Jordan Sackville is not a daughter of Robert Aguillon who m. Joan Ferrers because his only daughter and heir was Isabel, who m. Hugh Bardol

• m. ABT 1230

• m. ABT 1209 in England

1. Joan de Aguillon, b. ABT 1210 in Withyham, Suffolk, England     d. AFT 15 FEB 1263 in Kingsdown, Kent, England
2. Ela Aguillon, b. 1204 in Poynings, Sussex, England     d. 1251 in Poynings, Sussex, England

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