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William de Venables
- Preferred Name: William de Venables[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Alternate Name: William de Venables
- Gender: M
- LdsSealingToParents: 17 DEC 1964
- Birth: AFT 1135 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England at LATI: N3.1833 LONG: E2.4 with note: "The United Kingdom didn't exist before 1801!"
- Death: ABT 1228 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England at LATI: N3.1833 LONG: E2.4 with note: The United Kingdom didn't exist before 1801!
- Occupation: 3rd Baron of Kinderton1188
- LdsEndowment: 12 DEC 1934
- Occupation: Knight
- Residence: Of Wymincham and Radnor
- LdsBaptism: 22 SEP 1919
- FSID: GQLS-LY3
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
William de Venables,third known lord of the Cheshire barony of Kinderton.
His parents were Gilbert de Venables and Margery de Hatton.[1] He must have been the eldest surviving son, as he inherited the Cheshire barony of Kinderton from his father.
He had probably already assumed the lordship of the barony when he was recorded in a charter of the Earl of Chester, which has been dated as being made between approximately 1164 and 1173.[3] This charter records that he made fine for settling strangers on his land.[3] If this charter was made towards the end of the aforementioned period, and if William had only recently reached the age of majority at that time, then he would have been born about 1150.
His wife is unknown. He had the following children:[1]
Hugh, baron of Kinderton
Robert, parson of Rostherne
Unknown child, the parent of William de la Mere[4]
William
Hamon (sometimes confused with his uncle Hamon de Venables aka Hamon de Legh)
Sometime prior to 1211, he granted the manor of Wincham and a moiety of Picmere to his sister, Maud, upon her marriage.[5]
William was living in 1228.[1][6]
He may still have been living in 1238, when his grant of the vills of Witton and Lindwood to son William was entered on the Cheshire Domesday Roll,[7] although if so, he would likely have been well into his eighties.
Wikiree
=== http://www.thornber.net/cheshire/htmlfiles/venables.html ===
This shows evedence of birth year and death year.
=== Sir William Venables, Knight, eldest so ===
Sir William Venables, Knight, eldest son, appears in a grant to his brother Hugh about 1188. To this deed he affixes a seal, representing a Lion Rampant sinister. He had license for a domestic chapel at Merston for himself and wife from Andrew, Prior of Newton. He lived in the 12th year of Henry III, 1228. He had issue Hugh, Robert, parson of Rosthorne, Hamon and William.
=== !"to whom his father gave Winington and ===
!"to whom his father gave Winington and Randor"
living 1233
!"to whom his father gave Winington and Randor"
living 1233
=== Baron of Kinderton ===
Baron of Kinderton
=== Letitia, 2nd daughter and coheir of Sir ===
Letitia, 2nd daughter and coheir of Sir William Venables, of Wymincham
Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
Page: 2631
*Forrest=fathers direct line,! dna connections
@Stolp=mothers direct line
+Tamer=husbands direct line
#Wallace & ^Stuetelberg=son-in-laws direct lines
all lines separated.With multiple marks cross over lines
without documentations all is speculative/with ???
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[[Category: European Aristocrats Unsourced Profiles]]
== Biography ==
Marriage 1: Margaret Dutton 1200 in Kindeston, Cheshire, England; born 1180 in Kindeston, Cheshire, England; died 1293 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England
Children:1. Hugh De Venables, born 1191 in Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died 1249 in Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; married Alice De Oxton
William,II Baron Of Kinderton was born about 1110. William,II Baron OfKinderton De Venables ... He passed away in 1160. [Entered by Theresa Bashford, Jul 7, 2013]
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== Sources ==
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Preferred Parents:
Father: Gilbert Venerables, b. 1085 in Venables, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France d. 1130 in Kinderton, England
Family 1: William De Venables, b. ABT 1204 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England
- Letitia Venables, b. 1230 in Wincham, Cheshire, England d. AFT 1288
Family 2: Agatha , b. 1145 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England d. 1212 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England
- m. 1169 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England
- William De Venables, b. in Kinderton, Cheshire, England d. AFT 1233
- Hugh de Venables - Baron of Kinderton, b. 1191 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England d. 1249 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England
Sources:
- Title: The History of Cheshire, George Ormerod author /Page number: Vol. 3, p. 198
Author: The History of Cheshire, Ormerod, George Esq., LL.D., F.S.A., 2nd Edition by Thomas Helsby, Esq, London: George Routledge & Sons, 1882, Brigham Young University, Harold B. Lee Library, Provo, UT 84604, Page number: Vol. 3, p. 198
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2332820711
- Title: The history of the county palatine and city of Chester
Author: Ormerod, George, The history of the county palatine and city of Chester (London : Lackington, Hughes, Mavor & Jones, 1819 (London : Nichols, Son, and Bentley), vol. III p. 106-199.
Note: FHL BRITISH Film
Page: Family Records
- Title: The Visitation of Chester 1580, John Paul Ryland / Vol. 18, p. 227
Author: The Visitation of Chester 1580, Rylands, John Paul, ed., Publications of the Harleian Society vol. 18, London: John Whitehead and Son Limited, 1935., Brigham Young University, Harold B. Lee Library, Provo, UT 84604, Page number: Publications of the Harleian Society Vol. 18, p. 227
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2332820712
- Title: Book: Burke's Peerage and Baronage pg 2631
Author: Burke's Peerage and Baronage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley, Editor-In-Chief {1999}, Page number: 2631
Note: Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736743040
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