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John FitzGilbert de Monmouth
- Preferred Name: John FitzGilbert de Monmouth[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19]
- Gender: M
- FSID: L17H-KF4
- Death: ABT 1248 in Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.8133 LONG: E2.7141 with note: standardized
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/John-de-Monmouth-Lord-of-Monmouth/6000000020870009513?through=6000000000276142079
- Find A Grave: with note: Description: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/178568340/john-de_monmouth
- Birth: ABT 1152 in Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.8175 LONG: E2.7293 with note: see sources
- Burial: 1248 in Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales at LATI: N1.8141 LONG: E2.6283 with note: standardized
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
sir, John I FitzGilbert, Lord of Monmouth 1190-1248, Sheriff of Herefordshire 1231, Sheriff of Wiltshire 1228-29 , Govenor of St Bravel's castle, Keeper of New Forest by right of wife Cecilia, Justice of South Wales
heir & s/o Gilbert FitzBalderon, Lord of Monmouth & Bertha Braose
b- 1182 - Monmouth, Wales
m-1-1201/02 - Cecily Waleran d-1222 (they had 3 daughters & 1 son William)
m-2-abt 1223 - Agnes Muscegros (the had 3 sons John, Walter & Richard)
d-September 1248 -Monmouth, Wales
buried - Monmouth, Wales
Held - Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales; Manston, Maiden Newton & Sutton Waldron, Dorset; Hewelsfirld, Gloucestershire; West Dean(in West Tytherley), Hampshire; Great Wishford & Steeple Langford, Wiltshire; Birtsmorton, Worcestershire ;
1189- his father died - he was a minor, & was made ward of his uncle William Braoise, 4th Lord Bramber, sheriff of Herefordshire - he was still in custody of his uncle in 1199
a few years later - he in some way affened King John & had to give his 2 infant sons JOHN & Philip, as Hostages for his good behavior
1202- on his marriage to Cecily Waleran, John paid the King 120m & 2 Norway Hawks, for his share of her father's property
1216 - at Coronation of the King
1218 - orders were adressed to JOHN Monmouth, Caonstable of St Briavells, emjoing him to allow the Abbot & Monks of Flaxley - to have timber for their life , from the forest
1223 - order was addressed to JOHN Monmouth, binding him to allow the Abbot of Flaxley, subject to the view & testimony of the foresters, to have reasonable allowance of waste wood & windfall in the forest, for repairs of his houses
he was Constable of St Briavels; Justice in Erye;
1226 - established the Abbey of Grace Dieu, a few miles outside Monmouth
1242- Chief Bailiff of South Wales
The Superssion of JOHN Monmouth, as custodian of St Briavels & of the Forest of Dene, is due to his voluntary resignation on the score of ill health on 4 Jan 1224 - the castle & forest were committed temporally to the Bishop of Hereford
no date - John Monmouth - made grant to Priory of Monmouth - for the salvation of the souls of Himself, his wife Cecily & His father Gilbert & mother Bertha ; witnesses : John, Walter & Richard Monmouth, his sons
1241- JOHN Monmouth was directed to take possession of the Castles of Stirgoyl, Uft & Caerleon
He was 1 of the King Henry's allies in fighting the Welsh rebelloins by the welsh prince Llywelyn ap Iorwerth & Richard Marshal, Earl of Pembroke (he reportedly fled the battle of Monmouth in 1233, when Richard Marshal forces defeated the defenders of the the town led by Baldwin III Ct of Guines)
at 1 pint JOHN Monmouth had control of Chepstow, Usk, Caerleon, Carmarthern, Builth & Cardigan as well as Monmouth
=== Notes for John de Monmouth ===
SOURCES: ABC 13218
Preferred Parents:
Father: Gilbert FitzBaderon de Monmouth, b. ABT 1130 in Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom d. ABT 1190 in Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
Mother: Bertha de Braose, b. ABT 1130 in Bramber, Sussex, England d. 19 NOV 1200 in Abergavenny y Fenn, Monmouthshire, Wales
Family 1: Cecily de Waleran, b. ABT 1152 in Dorset, England, United Kingdom d. ABT 1222 in Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
- Joan de Monmouth, b. ABT 1203 in Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom d. AFT NOV 1247 in Raby Castle, Durham, England, United Kingdom
Family 2: Agnes Muscegros, b. ABT 1190 d. in Monmouth, Wales
Sources:
- Title: Cartulary & Historical Notes of Cestern Abbey of Flaxley (otherwise Dene Abbey)
- Title: History of Monmouthshire
- Title: Annals of Chepstow Castle
- Title: Lord of Central Marshes English Aristocracy Frontier Society
- Title: John de Monmouth (1182-1248), Find a Grave
Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/178568340/john-de_monmouth;
Note: John of Monmouth (c. 1182 – 1248) was an Anglo-Norman feudal lord of Breton ancestry, who was lord of Monmouth between 1190 and 1248. He was a favorite of both King John and his son, Henry III, and one of the most powerful royal allies in the Welsh Marches.
John's first marriage, in 1201, was to Cecily, the daughter of Walter de Waleran (c. 1143-1200), of Shaftesbury, Dorset. They had three daughters and a son, William. Cecily died in 1222. His second marriage, in about 1223/24, was to Agnes, the daughter of Walter de Muscegros. They had three sons: John, who became lord of Monmouth upon his father's death, Walter and Richard.
Page: provide source for changes
- Title: Collectanea Archaeological Cummuntcation
- Title: Dormant & Extinct Baronetage of England
- Title: Judges of England
- Title: Minority of Henry III
- Title: Dormant & Extinct Baronetage of England
- Title: Wiltshire Archaeogical & Natural History Magazine " History of Manors of West Dean & East Grimstead"
- Title: Geni page John fitz Gilbert De Monmouth
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/John-de-Monmouth-Lord-of-Monmouth/6000000020870009513;
Note: John of Monmouth (c. 1182 – 1248) was an Anglo-Norman feudal lord of Breton ancestry, who was lord of Monmouth between 1190 and 1248. He was a favourite of both King John and his son, Henry III, and one of the most powerful royal allies in the Welsh Marches.
Life
He was born in Monmouth, the son of Gilbert fitzBaderon, and the great-grandson of William fitzBaderon who had been lord of Monmouth at the time of the Domesday Book in 1086. John's father died in about 1189, and, being under age, he was made the ward of his uncle, William de Braose, 4th Lord of Bramber, Sheriff of Herefordshire and a court favourite. He was still a ward of de Braose at the time of King John's accession to the throne of England in 1199, but, by 1201, he had married Cecilia de Waleran and paid the king 120 marks and two Norway hawks for his share of her father's property.[1] Like William de Braose, he had a close relationship with the king, who visited Monmouth in 1213 on a hunting expedition. When the king died in 1216, John of Monmouth was present at his bedside, and was one of the executors of his will. He was also involved in the coronation of John's son and successor, Henry III.[1]
He was appointed as Constable of St Briavels, and as a Justice in Eyre with responsibility for the law in royal forests. He became one of the most powerful figures in the southern Marches, serving as an advisor to the king on Anglo-Welsh affairs.[2] In 1226, he established the Abbey of Grace Dieu, a few miles outside Monmouth, but the abbey faced constant attacks from the Welsh who claimed that John had seized Welsh land unlawfully; it was forced to relocate several times. John was also one of King Henry's allies in fighting the rebellions by the Welsh prince Llywelyn ab Iorwerth and Richard Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. However, he reportedly fled the Battle of Monmouth in 1233, when Richard Marshal's forces defeated the defenders of the town led by Baldwin III, Count of Guînes, and thereafter devastated the surrounding countryside.[3] John returned to Monmouth afterwards, and over the next few years increased the extent of his control. He was made chief bailiff of South Wales in 1242, and at one point had control of Chepstow, Usk, Caerleon, Carmarthen, Builth and Cardigan as well as Monmouth.[1]
Marriages and issue
John's first marriage, in 1201, was to Cecily, the daughter of Walter de Waleran (c. 1143-1200), of Shaftesbury, Dorset. They had three daughters and a son, William. Cecily died in 1222.[4] His second marriage, in about 1223/24, was to Agnes, the daughter of Walter de Muscegros. They had three sons: John, who became lord of Monmouth upon his father's death, Walter and Richard.[1]
Death and aftermath
He died in 1247[4] or 1248,[1] and was buried at Monmouth. His tomb was destroyed in the rebuilding of the Priory Church of St Mary in 1737.[1]
His son John, who had been born in about 1225, became heavily in debt and surrendered his estates, including the lordship of Monmouth, to the crown in 1256. He died in 1274.[1][5]
- Title: Collections towards a History & Antiquities of County Hereford
- Title: Gloucester - History of Town & Parish of Tetbury Gloucester
- Title: William FitzBaderon in the Dormant and Extinct Baronage of England, pg. 138 [See document in the memories section]
Author: Dormant and Extinct Baronage of England, pg. 138
Note: William FitzBaderon in the Dormant and Extinct Baronage of England, pg. 138 [See document in the memories section]
Page: William FitzBaderon in the Dormant and Extinct Baronage of England, pg. 138 [See document in the memories section]
- Title: Synopisis of The Peerage of England
- Title: John of Monmouth (1182-1248), Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Monmouth;
Note: John of Monmouth (c. 1182 – 1248) was an Anglo-Norman feudal lord of Breton ancestry, who was lord of Monmouth between 1190 and 1248. He was a favourite of both King John and his son, Henry III, and one of the most powerful royal allies in the Welsh Marches...He was born in Monmouth, the son of Gilbert fitzBaderon... by 1201, he had married Cecilia de Waleran...They had three daughters and a son, William. Cecily died in 1222...His second marriage, in about 1223/24, was to Agnes, the daughter of Walter de Muscegros. They had three sons: John, who became lord of Monmouth upon his father's death, Walter and Richard
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- Title: Geneanet
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