Agnes FitzPayne

• Preferred Name: Agnes FitzPayne^{[1] [2]}
  
• Gender: F
  
• Burial: 1191 in Holkham, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.9477 LONG: E0.8072
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Agnes-FitzPayn-Countess-of-Hereford/6000000003494703432?through=6000000002134866878
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Countess of Herefordshire
  
• Find A Grave: with note: Description: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/177272570/agnes-fitzpayn
  
• Death: BEF 29 SEP 1191 in Norfolk, England
  
• FSID: LHVT-QV8
  
• Geography:: with note: Description: Dartford and Swanscombe seem to have been the same town. Merged that I placed.
  
• Birth: ABT 1125 in Holkam, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.95 LONG: E0.8167 with note: Choosing standardized date.
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Agnes (FitzPayn)
  d/o Payne FitzJohn, of Burgh & Ewyas & Sybil Talbot (daughter of Hugh Talbot and Emmeline de Lacy)
  b- abt 1125 - Holkham, Norfolk, England or burgh , or Eywas, Herefordshire
  m-1- Waring Munchesney d- 1162
  m-2- Halewin Bidun
  d- 1190 - bef September 1191 -
  
  alive 1185 - heir of Dinton, Buckinghamshire (1190 tenant) & Painswick (his wife Sybil Lacy, heiress of Painswick),Gloucestershire
  
  Dinton, Buckinghamshire was held by Geoffrey Talbot who
  d- 1140 - This Barony passed to Walter Meduana, Walter's widow Cecilia Payn (sister of Agnes Payn), by her 1st husband Roger FitzMiles, Earl of hereford , d/o of Payne FitzJohn - Cecila held DINTON, she was succeeded by her nephew Ralph Munchcesney
  
  living 1185 age 60
  
  (source- The Rotili de Dominabus of 1185-) records proptery "Holkum" held by AGNES Munchesney.. lx annorum... fiia Pagan FitzJohn, adding that she had "iii filios progenitus... Radulphus et scundus Willelmus...ambor milities...hubertus...clericus... et ii filias... una nupta Stephano Glanville , et altera William Paynel"
  
  1 of the riches widows recorded - held land in Norfolk, Burgh..
  
  had 3 sons & 2 Daughters
  
  === 1. Source: "Ancestry of Roger Ludlow" b ===
  1. Source: "Ancestry of Roger Ludlow" by Seversmith, p. 2,359 & 2,362. 2. "living in 1185 aged 60, having three sons and two daughters one of whom (the daughters) was married to Stephen de Glanville and the other (Frethesant RIN 982) to William Paynell (RIN 981). Agnes also had a step-daughter Sarah de Bidun who married another William Paynell." 3. "appears to have died between Michaelmas (29 Sep) 1199 and Michaelmas 1191". 4. "She was Agnes de St. John, daughter of Payn fitz John (RIN 1755). She was again a widow in 1185."
  
  === Note:
  He [Warin de Munchensy] married A ===
  Note:
  He [Warin de Munchensy] married Agnes, younger daughter and coheir of Payn FITZ JOHN, by his wife Sybil. Warin died in or before 1162, when his relict was wife of Haldenald DE BIDUN, whom she survivcd. In 1185 she was a widow, said to be aged 60, with 3 sons, Sir Ralph and Sir William de Munchensy, knights, and Hubert de Munchensy, a clerk. She appears to have died between Michaelmas 1190 and Michaelmas 1191. [Complete Peerage IX:418-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  He [Warin de Munchensy] married Agnes, younger daughter and coheir of Payn FITZ JOHN, by his wife Sybil. Warin died in or before 1162, when his relict was wife of Haldenald DE BIDUN, whom she survivcd. In 1185 she was a widow, said to be aged 60, with 3 sons, Sir Ralph and Sir William de Munchensy, knights, and Hubert de Munchensy, a clerk. She appears to have died between Michaelmas 1190 and Michaelmas 1191. [Complete Peerage IX:418-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

• m. ABT 1148 in Swancombe, Norfolk, England

1. Alice de Munchesnsy, b. ABT 1155 in Gooderstone, Swaffham, Norfolk, England     d. AFT 1192
2. William de Munchensy, b. ABT 1152 in Swanscombe, Kent, England     d. 7 MAY 1204 in Winfarthing, Norfolk, England

• m. BEF 1162

1. Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
   Author: Citations [S2386] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/2, p. 271, notes. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 177-178.
   Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p300.htm#i9000;
   Note: Agnes FitzJohn1 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 F, #9000, b. circa 1125, d. between 29 September 1190 and 29 September 1191 Father Payn (Paganus) de FitzJohn b. b 1100, d. 10 Jul 1137 Mother Sibyl Talbot d. a 10 Jul 1137 Charts Some Descendants of Charlemagne (#1) Some Descendants of Charlemagne (#2) Agnes FitzJohn married Warin de Munchensey, son of Hubert de Munchensey, Lord Edwardston and Muriel de Valoines. Agnes FitzJohn married Haldenald de Bidun. Agnes FitzJohn was born circa 1125. She died between 29 September 1190 and 29 September 1191. Family Warin de Munchensey d. c 1186 Children Ralph de Munchensy d. 1187 Hubert de Munchensy Alice de Munchensy+ d. a 1192 Sir William de Munchensey+2 b. c 1162, d. b 7 May 1204
   
2. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Agnes Fitzjohn -
   Author: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, Page number: IX:419
   Note: Source Media Type: Book
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741118