Petronella FritzPier De Lutegareshale

• Preferred Name: Petronella FritzPier De Lutegareshale^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17]}
  
• Gender: F
  
• Death: 17 OCT 1198 in Bywell, Northumberland, England at LATI: N4.9511 LONG: E1.9257
  
• FSID: LZ6D-CX6
  
• Birth: 1162 in Essex, England at LATI: N1.8523 LONG: E0.6147 with note: Genernet
  
• Notes:

  Agnes de Berkeley
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  Red Castle, Angus
  
  Red Castle of Lunan is a ruined fortified house on the coast of Angus, Scotland. It is about 4 miles (6.4 km) so
  
  BIO
  BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#JohnBallioldied12681269A as of 7/19/2016
  
  PERRONELLE, widow of ROBERT FitzPiers of Cherhill, daughter of ---. The 1194/95 Pipe Roll records "Eu
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === Notes and sources to Royal Ancestry ===
  Clutterbuck Hist. & Antiqs. of Hertford 3 (1827): 17 (Balliol ped.). Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 6(1) (1830): 339-340. Wiffen Hist. Memoirs of the House of Russell 1 (1833): 43. Stapleton Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ 1(1840): clix. Fordyce Hist. & Antiqs. of Durham 2 (1857): 5. Maitland Bracton's Note Book 3 (1887): 452-453. Feet of Fines of King Richard I A.D. 1198 to A.D. 1199 (Pubs. Pipe Roll Soc. 24) (1900): 15. VCH Dorset 2 (1908): 75. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 25. London Cartulary of Bradenstoke Priory (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 35) (1979): 85, 165-168. Mason Beauchamp Cartulary Charters (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 43) (1980): 190 ("An estate worth 22l. blanch was held in Cherhill [Wiltshire], in terris datis by John Marshall between 1556 and Michaelmas 1164 (Red Book of the Exchequer (Rolls ser., 3 vols., 1896), II, 664; P.R.S. VII, 14), Robert Fitz Peter held it between Michaelmas 1165 and Michaelmas 1185 (P.R.S. VIII, 56; P.R.S. XXXV, 189). At Michaelmas 1187 it was held in terris datis by Geoffrey Fitz Peter (P.R.S. XXX VII, 173)"). Stringer Essay on the Nobility of Scotland (1985): 153 (Balliol ped.). Brown Anglo-Norman Studies VIII (1986): 218, 220. Hanna Cartularies of Southwick Priory 1 (Hampshire Rec. Ser. 9) (1988): 68 (charter of Maud de Bochland' and her son and heir, Robert Fitz Peter). Turner Men Raised from the Dust (1988): 37, 166, App. Chart A (Fitz Peter ped.). White Restoration & Reform, 11 5 3-1165 (2004): 115-116. Stacy Charters & Custumals of Sheesbury Abbey, 1089-1216 (2006): 71.
  
  === Some background information concerning the connection of Petronilla FitzPiers to the Baliol family. ===
  When one searches historical records concerning the Baliol family in England, one finds what may be one of the largest areas of disagreement among the many records of almost any family in England. A great many records, i.e., Dugdale’s Baronage of England; Burke’s Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages; Burke’s General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages; Nicolas' The Historic Peerage of England; The Battle Abbey Roll; and the Dictionary of National Biography, among others [See documents in the Memories section of Guy de Baliol], suggest that Guy de Baliol is the first of the family and accompanied William the Conqueror to England in 1066, which is not only in error but is physically impossible.
  
  Guy de Baliol was most likely born between 1060 and 1070 and, if alive at the time of the Conquest, would have been a mere child, not someone in the Conqueror’s invading army. In fact, some records appear to pose the question: If Guy accompanied the Conqueror to England, why does he not appear in the Domesday Book of William the Conqueror of 1086 possessing lands from the Conqueror?
  
  Guy de Baliol first appears in historical records as possessing lands during the reign of King William II (William Rufus), son of the Conqueror, who ruled from 1087 to 1100, when he was succeeded by his younger brother King Henry I. Some records suggest that Guy did not come into possession of his lands until as late as 1099, some 33 years after the Conquest, and Guy certainly does not appear in the Domesday Book.
  
  There is, however, a Baliol family member in the Domesday Book: Widelard of Balliol who received 6 properties from the Conqueror for his service [See document in the Memories section of Widelard de Baliol]. Widelard appears in several additional records [See documents in the Memories section of Widelard] under the names Wido, Guido, Wimund and even Guy, the English form of Guido or Wido, and it does appear that all of those various names do, in fact, refer to the same individual who accompanied William the Conqueror to England. Those additional records suggest that Widelard (Wimund, Wido) is the father of Guy, Hugh, Joscelin, a daughter Hawise and possibly an additional son Bernard (but Bernard is very questionable—he is most likely from the next generation). It also appears that the name Widelard of Balliol, as it appears in the Domesday Book, may be an amalgamation of Wido and some form of Lord of Baliol, but that is only conjecture at this point and cannot be substantiated from the current historical records.
  
  Continuing, many of the historical records report Guy is the father of Bernard de Baliol, Guy’s immediate successor, but that is also in error. Guy was married to Dionysia and they appear to have had only one child, a daughter named Hawise (likely named after her aunt Hawise, Guy’s sister). If Guy did not have any sons, who is Bernard, Guy’s successor? From those above-cited records, it is evident that Bernard is the nephew of Guy, not his son. Bernard appears to be the son of Guy’s brother Hugh, who thus becomes the progenitor of the Baliol family in England and not Guy. It appears that Hugh never went to England, but remained in France holding the family estates in France, while his son Bernard did, at some point, go to England and succeeded Guy on the English estates.
  
  Here, again, the historical records disagree concerning Bernard’s tenure on the English estates. Many records report only one person named Bernard, but other records report two Bernards, father and son. Bernard I, the father, is called Bernard the Elder in some records while Bernard II is referred to as Bernard the Younger. Bernard I was married to Matilda and Bernard II was married to Agnes de Picquigny (French spelling, but also spelled in several additional ways in the various records). Bernard I appears to have died in or before 1167 and Bernard II about 30 years later in the mid-1190s. Thus, there were clearly two Bernards.
  
  Bernard II was succeeded by Eustace de Baliol, who most records report to be the son of Bernard II. However, one record called Bernard Castle [see document in the Memories section of Eustace de Baliol] suggests that Eustace was named Eustace de Heliscourt and reports his relationship to Bernard II is unknown. That begs the question, could Eustace have been an illegitimate son of Bernard II who was called by his mother's surname until he was determined to be the legitimate heir and then he assumed the surname Baliol? At the current time, that is pure conjecture and cannot be proved nor disproved from current historical records.
  
  Some of the above-cited records report Eustace married twice, but do not name his first wife and name his second wife Petronilla, the widow of Robert FitzPiers. Thus, her surname of FitzPiers is her first married name and not her maiden name. Eustace had license to marry Petronilla in 1190. Thus, Petronilla does not appear to be the mother of Eustace’s successor, Hugh de Baliol.
  
  This Hugh de Baliol, son of Eustace, reportedly married Cécile de Fontaines and they were the parents John de Baliol who was the ancestor (grandfather) of another John de Baliol who became the King of Scotland. Hugh and Cécile were also the parents of Ada de Baliol who married John FitzRobert of Clavering, thus establishing the connection between the Clavering and Baliol families.
  
  Based on the above-cited documents that have been attached to the various above-named individuals, it appears that the most nearly correct pedigree for the Baliol family in England for at least the first seven generations is as follows: Widelard (Wimund, etc.), father of Guy and Hugh with the line continuing with Hugh, father of Bernard I, father of Barnard II, father of Eustace, father of another Hugh, father of the John who became the ancestor of the Baliol Kings of Scotland. Until and unless additional historical documents come to light to refute the aforementioned pedigree, it appears the above is the most nearly correct explanation for the earliest generations of the Baliol family.
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.44; THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.124;
  
  === !BIRTH: The Plantagenet Connection, Apri ===
  !BIRTH: The Plantagenet Connection, April 1994

1. Hugh de Balliol, b. ABT 1180 in Barnard Castle, Durham, England     d. ABT 2 MAY 1229 in Gainford, Durham, England
2. Ingram de Balliol Lord of Redcastle, b. in Durham, England     d. 1244 in Tours-en-Vimeu, Somme, Picardie, France

1. Title: Guy, Bernard I and II, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in A History of Northumberland, pgs. 15-18, 20-21, 25, 29, and 31 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: A History of Northumberland, pgs. 15-18, 20-21, 25, 29, and 31
   Note: Guy, Bernard I and II, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in A History of Northumberland, pgs. 15-18, 20-21, 25, 29, and 31 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Guy, Bernard I and II, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in A History of Northumberland, pgs. 15-18, 20-21, 25, 29, and 31 [See document in the Memories section]
   
2. Title: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in Burke's A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 23-24 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Burke's A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 23-24
   Note: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in Burke's A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 23-24 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in Burke's A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 23-24 [See document in the Memories section]
   
3. Title: Bernard de Balliol II in the Dictionary of National Biography, Vol. 3, pg. 63 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Dictionary of National Biography, Vol. 3, pg. 63
   Note: Bernard de Balliol II in the Dictionary of National Biography, Vol. 3, pg. 63 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Bernard de Balliol II in the Dictionary of National Biography, Vol. 3, pg. 63 [See document in the Memories section]
   
4. Title: Guy, Bernard, Eustace Hugh and John de Baliol in Historical Collections of the Joseph Habersham Chapter, Daughters American Revolution, Vol. II, pg. 505-506 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Historical Collections of the Joseph Habersham Chapter, Daughters American Revolution, Vol. II, pg. 505-506
   Note: Guy, Bernard, Eustace Hugh and John de Baliol in Historical Collections of the Joseph Habersham Chapter, Daughters American Revolution, Vol. II, pg. 505-506 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Guy, Bernard, Eustace Hugh and John de Baliol in Historical Collections of the Joseph Habersham Chapter, Daughters American Revolution, Vol. II, pg. 505-506 [See document in the Memories section]
   
5. Title: Bernard, Eustace and Hugh de Balliol in The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire, pg. 389 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire, pg. 389
   Note: Bernard, Eustace and Hugh de Balliol in The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire, pg. 389 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Bernard, Eustace and Hugh de Balliol in The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire, pg. 389 [See document in the Memories section]
   
6. Title: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 20-21 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 20-21
   Note: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 20-21 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 20-21 [See document in the Memories section]
   
7. Title: Piers de Lutegareshale and Maud de Mandeville in Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, pg. 87 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, pg. 87
   Note: Piers de Lutegareshale and Maud de Mandeville in Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, pg. 87 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Piers de Lutegareshale and Maud de Mandeville in Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, pg. 87 [See document in the Memories section]
   
8. Title: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in the Lives of the Baillies, pg. 2-4 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Lives of the Baillies, pg. 2-4
   Note: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in the Lives of the Baillies, pg. 2-4 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Guy, Bernard, Eustace, Hugh and John de Baliol in the Lives of the Baillies, pg. 2-4 [See document in the Memories section]
   
9. Title: Guy, Bernard I, Bernard II, Hugh and John de Baliol in Nicolas' The Historic Peerage of England, pg. 38-39 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Nicolas' The Historic Peerage of England, pg. 38-39
   Note: Guy, Bernard I, Bernard II, Hugh and John de Baliol in Nicolas' The Historic Peerage of England, pg. 38-39 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Guy, Bernard I, Bernard II, Hugh and John de Baliol in Nicolas' The Historic Peerage of England, pg. 38-39 [See document in the Memories section]
   
10. Title: The Baliols of Bernard Castle in Clay's The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England, pg. 4-5 and footnote [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: Clay's The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England, pg. 4-5 and footnote
    Note: The Baliols of Bernard Castle in Clay's The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England, pg. 4-5 and footnote [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: The Baliols of Bernard Castle in Clay's The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England, pg. 4-5 and footnote [See document in the Memories section]
    
11. Title: Eustace de Balliol and Petronilla FitzPiers in The Antiquities of Gainford, chart between pgs. 146-147 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: The Antiquities of Gainford, chart between pgs. 146-147
    Note: Eustace de Balliol and Petronilla FitzPiers in The Antiquities of Gainford, chart between pgs. 146-147 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Eustace de Balliol and Petronilla FitzPiers in The Antiquities of Gainford, chart between pgs. 146-147 [See document in the Memories section]
    
12. Title: Bernard I and II, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in The Baliols of Bywell and Bernard Castle, pgs. 10-11, 14, 17-19, 24, 27-28 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: The Baliols of Bywell and Bernard Castle, pgs. 10-11, 14, 17-19, 24, 27-28
    Note: Bernard I and II, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in The Baliols of Bywell and Bernard Castle, pgs. 10-11, 14, 17-19, 24, 27-28 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Bernard I and II, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in The Baliols of Bywell and Bernard Castle, pgs. 10-11, 14, 17-19, 24, 27-28 [See document in the Memories section]
    
13. Title: Eustace, Hugh, John and Ada de Balliol in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#EustaceBaliolB [See document in the Memories section]
    Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#EustaceBaliolB;
    Note: Eustace, Hugh, John and Ada de Balliol in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#EustaceBaliolB [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Eustace, Hugh, John and Ada de Balliol in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#EustaceBaliolB [See document in the Memories section]
    
14. Title: Robert FitzPiers and Petronilla in Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, Vol. V., pg. 123 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, Vol. V., pg. 123
    Note: Robert FitzPiers and Petronilla in Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, Vol. V., pg. 123 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Robert FitzPiers and Petronilla in Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, Vol. V., pg. 123 [See document in the Memories section]
    
15. Title: Balliol family in Dugdale’s The Baronage of England, pg. 553-554 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: Dugdale’s The Baronage of England, pg. 553-554
    Note: Balliol family in Dugdale’s The Baronage of England, pg. 553-554 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Balliol family in Dugdale’s The Baronage of England, pg. 553-554 [See document in the Memories section]
    
16. Title: Piers de Lutegareshale and Maude de Mandeville in Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, Vol. V., Chart between pgs. 116-117 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, Vol. V., Chart between pgs. 116-117
    Note: Piers de Lutegareshale and Maude de Mandeville in Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, Vol. V., Chart between pgs. 116-117 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Piers de Lutegareshale and Maude de Manville in Cokayne's The Complete Peerage, Vol. V., Chart between pgs. 116-117 [See document in the Memories section]
    
17. Title: Guy, Bernard, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in A History and Genealogy of the Family of Bailie, pg. 68 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: A History and Genealogy of the Family of Bailie, pg. 68
    Note: Guy, Bernard, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in A History and Genealogy of the Family of Bailie, pg. 68 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Guy, Bernard, Eustace and Hugh de Baliol in A History and Genealogy of the Family of Bailie, pg. 68 [See document in the Memories section]