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Adam Roche
- Preferred Name: Adam Roche[1]
- Gender: M
- Death: 1220 in Castle Roche, Pembrokeshire, Wales at LATI: N1.8611 LONG: E4.9229
- Burial: in Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire, Wales at LATI: N1.7167 LONG: E5.0333 with note: GEDCOM data
- FSID: L6YT-W7G
- Birth: 1160 in Castle Roche, Pembrokeshire, Wales at LATI: N1.8611 LONG: E4.9229 with note: myheritage--Castle Roche, Pembrokeshire, Wales
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
His sons Richard (a knight) and Robert fitz Godebert, or more correctly, Robert's sons, seem to have taken the name de Roch (de Rupe -- Latin; de Roiste or Roistigh -- Irish) in Ireland after the Cambro-Norman Invasion. The family had played an important role in the English settlement of Pembrokeshire and owned considerable territory in the northern areas. A legend told of the castle's founder, Adam de Rupe, whose fear of a prophecy that he would be killed by a viper's bite led him to choose this isolated site. Apparently he was unable to avoid his fate, for a viper, concealed in a bundle of firewood, found its way into the castle and fulfilled the prophecy. Per http://www.monasticwales.org/-person/88
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1199
Adam de Roch founded Pill Priory in Pembrokeshire [date disputed]. His wife was Blandina, and they had a son Adam and one named David (for his brother). He gave considerable lands to the Church before his death. I am much pleased that this Priory was placed on a new (de nova) site, as opposed to a Brehon one being destroyed first. It was also dedicated to the Virgin and a Celtic Saint, Budoc. It was the first such institution that accepted Welshmen for admission to the Order. All of this seems incredibly "enlightened" for the times.
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Documents show Adam de Rupe endowing Pill to the Order of Tiron, witnessed by Bishop Peter de Leia, St David's [1176-1198] which sets the timeframe. The original charter has been lost, and the sole remaining source is an inspeximus from AD 1294-5, which reads:
'For the monks of Pill. The king etc....We have inspected a charter which Adam de Roche made to God and St Mary and St Budoc and the monks of the Order of Tiron....in the monastery of Pill in these words....I, Adam de Roche....founding a monastery in my land of Pill....with the consent and assent of my heir, my wife Blandina....have given, granted and by this, my present charter, confirmed to God and St. Mary and St Budoc and the monks of the order of Tiron there....etc., etc....'
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Various info - unsure of the meaning ...
de la Roche Adam 1100s built Roch Castle
de la Roche David 1303 son of Gilbert de la Roche
whose mother was one of the four co-heiresses of Robert de
Vale Old Pembrokeshire Families Owen Juror Inq Post
Mortem C Edward II File 4 1 Cal p 21a 1307 September 20
de la Roche Gilbert 1303 of Llangum Husband of one
of the daughters and co-heiresses Robert de Vale father of
David de la Roche Old Pembrokeshire Families Owen
de la Roche John 1333 Dec 28 Roscrowther Rector
WWHR Vol3 p 258
de la Roche Thomas 1410 died about Llangwm Acc
de la Roche Thomas 1307 July 26 Inq Post Mortem
C Edward II File 6 2
de la Roche Thomas 1278 January 10 Welsh Roll
10 Edward I m Wd Cal p 247 The Tower
de la Roche William 1331Dec8 justices of oyer and
terminer Clarendon Patent Roll5 Edward Illpt 3 mild Cal p
236
Sir Robert de Vale was married twice first tode Wideworth
Avelina" and then to Margaret who survived him he left four
daughters and his estate was divided into four portions as
appears from the charterin 1303 of Hascard Geffreyas to a
rent at Johnston which had been granted to him by
de la Roche David which he calls upon the heir's of Robert de
Vale to warrant" These heirs were
de la Roche Gilbert of Llangum the husband of one of the
daughters and the father of David Wogan John who had
married Margaret daughter of Sir Robert or according to
another account daughter of Roger Corbet and Nesta de Vale
de Rosshall Thomas who had married Nesta the widow of
Roger Corbet ap Owen Llywelyn a descendant of the Lord
Rhys who married Elen de Vale and had Trefgarn Owen for his
share their youngest son Thomas had two daughters one of
whom was the mother of Owen Glyndwr and the other the
grandmother of Owen Tudor "
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THE ABBEY'S RICHEST DAUGHTER
The Roches, who gave the Priory of Pill to the Abbey of St.
Dogmaels, took' their name of Roche, which means rock, from
the rock on which Roche Tower or castle, as it is called, was built, though their name is Latinized in the charters as De la Rupe. They appear to have originally been Flemings, as, one Godebert, a " Fleming of Roose," dwelt in this part of Pembrokeshire in 1131 ; his grandsons, David, Henry, and Adam taking the name of De la Roche.
Adam was the first who lived at Roche Castle; he had acquired considerable property in that neighbourhood, and founded the Priory of Pill towards the end of the twelfth century, in honour of St. Budoc and the Blessed Virgin, giving to it, not only the lands on which the Priory was built, but lands in Roose and New Moat, together with the Churches of St. Cewydd (now St Peter's) at Stainton, St. Mary of Roch, St. David (now St. Peter's) of Little Newcastle, and St. Nicholas of New Moat, with the assent and consent of his heir, his wife, Blandina, agreeing thereto, and granting it all, by his charter, to the monks of the order of Tiron, together with a mill, and the fisheries, with all rights, liberties, etc. The first witness to the grant was Andrew Abbot of St. Dogmaels.
Later, Thomas, son and heir of John de Roche, and his wife, Matilda,
daughter of Thoms Wallensis, Bishop of St. David's, 1248-1256, confirms all
the donations of Adam, the founder, and also grants two carucates of land,
with all appurtenances, called Suthoc (South Hook), in the township of
Herbiand (Herbrandston), given by his mother, Matilda, and three carucates
of land, with all appurtenances in Sewant, with three parts of the mill there, also six bovates of land in Stodhart (Studdolph), and five acres of land, with half a carucate of land in the same parish, together with half a carucate of land in Strickemeres Hill (Dredgman's Hill), which is called Vyndessors (Windsor).
Also six acres of land in Pill, formerly belonging to Richard Blakeman, and one mark of yearly rent with the lordship of Walter Baglas; also he grants all kinds of wreckage on the half carucate of land on which the Chapel of St. Cradoc of Neugol stands, as is witnessed in the charter of his father, John de Roche. He also grants two carucates of land with appurtenances, and one bovate of land in the township of John, which is called Monkestown, with patronage of the church there; two bovates of land in Castle Vydy, which seems to refer to Castle Hill, abutting upon Stainton Highway, mentioned among the possession of the Priory at the dissolution; two bovates of land in Thometon, two bovates in Retford, with appurtenances; also he grants them land, tenements, and gardens, which they already have in Roche, in Hubert's township (Hubberstone), in Leddin's township (Liddeston), in St. Budoc, Redderch (Redberth), and all the meadows, which were returned after the death of his father, John de Roche, by the prior and monks, with right of patronage of St. David's, Hubberstone, and St. Madoc's, Nolton.
Amongst the witnesses were Sir Nicholas Fitzmartin (d. 1284), Sir Guy de Brian, etc.
Following this was a charter of confirmation by William Marshall, Earl of Pembroke, to the Priory of Pill, of one carucate of land called Roger's (Mortimer) land, half a carucate called Waffret, twenty and a-half acres called Seman Scopal Mill, the liberty of making a fishery in the creek by that mill, a burgage at Moat, eight acres at Bakerlineran, in the fee of Moat, and every- thing given by Adam de Roche, Phillip being Prior of Pill at this time. This was inspected and confirmed by Edward I, 1296. Among the witnesses being R. Archbishop of Canterbury, A. Bishop of Durham, W. Bishop of Ely, and R. Bishop of London, with Henry, elect of York, and Brother William, elect of Dublin, 13th July, 25 Edward I.
From this it appears that the Roches were the chief benefactors of Pill Priory, which was made by them a cell of St. Dogmaels.
John, the son of the above Thomas, seems to have died rather suddenly, as in making his will, in 1314, he notes at the end, he could not give any more thought to it, and his executors must dispose of the residue, but he willed that he should be buried at Pill Priory, and also bequeathed 40s. to the monastery. He was succeeded by his brother Thomas (d. about 1324).
In 1330 William, the son of the above Thomas, founded a chauntry in the chapel of St. Thomas the Martyr, by Pill Oliver, for the souls of his father and mother, and of his ancestors.
About 1383 there is an account by Llewellyn ap William, the Reeve, of the rents of two parts of the manor of Roche and Pill, after the death of Margaret, niece of William de la Roche, being daughter and heiress of his sister, Margot, and wife of Roger de Clarendon, who in her right held two parts of the Manor of Roche and Pill of the King by knight's service.
In 1395, on July 19th, Richard II orders the investigation of some error that had occurred, by which Warrin, the Archdeacon, Robert Verney, and Eleanor, his wife, then of the Manor of Roche and Pill, had suffered great damage. David Fleming, who, together with Robert Verney, the plaintiff. Sir Warine, the Archdeacon, and Thomas de la Roche of Langum, represented the four daughters of the Thomas de la Roche, who died about 1324. His second daughter had married Sir David de la Roche, of Langum ; they were sisters of the William de la Roche who founded the Chantry Chapel at St. Thomas the Martyr. There appears, however, to be no record left of this suit
=== Louis Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P. 1 ===
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=== !#21> Complete Peerage-v11-p42*, (FHL 94 ===
!#21> Complete Peerage-v11-p42*, (FHL 942 D22cok); !ASSUMPTION> possible, though no proof, that this Adam is identical with the Adam de la ROCHE, who with consent of wife Blandiane, founded priory of Pill near Milford Haven;
Preferred Parents:
Father: Robert Fitzgodebert DeLaRoche, b. 1126 in Wales d. 1162 in Pembrokeshire, Wales
Family 1: Blandiane Marshal de Pembroke, b. 1164 in Pembrokeshire, Wales d. 1193 in Castle Roche, Pembrokeshire, Wales
- David Roche, b. 1190 in Roche Castle, Pembrokeshire d. 1259 in Roch, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Sources:
- Title: Adam de la Roche, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGM-S1DW : 2 July 2020), Adam de la Roche, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGM-S1DW;
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