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Robert ‘Quinton’ de Talbot I
- Preferred Name: Robert ‘Quinton’ de Talbot I[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Gender: M
- Alt. Death: 1224 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.4029 LONG: E0.7588
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: with note: Description: Sir Knight of Gainsborough
- Alt.+Birth: 1170 in Gainsborough Lincolnshire England at LATI: N3.3833 LONG: E0.7667 with note: Standardized
- Birth: 1165 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.4029 LONG: E0.7588
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: with note: Description: Lord of Gainsborough
- Death: afte 1225 in Gainsborough All Saints, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.4029 LONG: E0.7588
- FSID: LBCQ-6FW
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Robert Talbot, Lord of Gainsborough 1207-aft 1225
2nd s/o William Talbot,Lord of Gainsborough &
b- abt 1170 - Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
m- Ermentrude Ferrers
d- after 1225 - Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
before 1207 - heir of brother Roger Talbot - Gainborough, Lincolnshire
1215 - granted lands by King John - land of Hugh Pincerna - in Arethorpe & Skaleberg , in Craven, Yorkshire &
lands in Wulrickby, Lincolnshire
after 1215 - in service of Hugh Lacy, Earl of Ulster - in Ireland - granted lands in Ulster , Ireland
1217 - in the King's Service in Ireland, with Hugh Lacy, who for his services gave to him - Brackenburg
1225 - the lands of ROBERT Talbot, in Ulster, were siezed by the King & given to the Bishop of Durham
the said ROBERT Talbot having served his Lord Hugh Lacy, against the King
=== Robert Talbot, Lord of Gainsborough 1207 ===
Robert Talbot, Lord of Gainsborough 1207-aft 1225
2nd s/o William Talbot,Lord of Gainsborough &
b- abt 1170 - Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
m- Ermentrude Ferrers
d- after 1225 - Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
before 1207 - heir of brother Roger Talbot - Gainborough, Lincolnshire
1215 - granted lands by King John - land of Hugh Pincerna - in Arethorpe & Skaleberg , in Craven, Yorkshire &
lands in Wulrickby, Lincolnshire
after 1215 - in service of Hugh Lacy, Earl of Ulster - in Ireland - granted lands in Ulster , Ireland
1217 - in the King's Service in Ireland, with Hugh Lacy, who for his services gave to him - Brackenburg
1225 - the lands of ROBERT Talbot, in Ulster, were siezed by the King & given to the Bishop of Durham
the said ROBERT Talbot having served his Lord Hugh Lacy, against the King
Robert Talbot was born about 1170, and succeeded his brother Roger as Lord of Gainsborough before 8 John (1207) [Visitation of Yorkshire, 1666, pp. 236 & 242, note f; Nova Oblata pro. com Linc.; 8 John]. In 1215, he was granted by King John the land os Hugh Pincerni in Arethorpe and Skaleberg in Craven, Yorkshire, and also the lands in Wulrickby, Lincolnshire, formerly of Robert de Ropesly, a rebel [Close Rolls, 17 John, pt. I, m. 12]. Before 1216, he was given lands in Brackenbury in Craven by Hugh de Lacy [Patent Rolls, 18 John, m. 5]. Later he was in the service of Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster in Ireland, by whom he was granted extensive estates there. In 1225, the lands of Robert Talbot in Ulster were seized by the King and given to the Bishop of Durham, the said Robert having served under his lord Hugh de Lacy in an insurrection against the King. He was pardoned and his lands restored to him after payment of a fine of £100.
He married Ermintrude, daughter and co-heir of Robert de Ferrers, son of Walcheline de Ferrers, a younger son of the Earl of Derby. She brought to her husband the manor of Eggington in Derbyshire [Pleadings in the Exchequer Rolls, 13 Henry III, Rot. 13].
The children of Ermintrude and Robert were:
William, son and heir, lived in Normandy where he died 26 Heny III (1242) leaving by Alice, his wife, daughter and sole heiress, Joanna Talbot who married Robert son of William de Stuteville.
John, received lands in Thorpe from his uncle Sylvester Talbot. He succeeded his brother as Lord of Gainsborough. He died without heirs.
Gerard, succeeded his brother as Lord of Gainsborough. He died in in 1258, and was succeeded by his son, Richard Talbot.
Robert, b. about 1205, youngest son.
~ Lineage of the Talbot Family, p. 11
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.19, 27;
=== Some Background information concerning Robert Talbot, Lord of Gainsbourgh ===
Robert Talbot was born about 1170, and succeeded his brother Roger as Lord of Gainsborough before 8 John (1207) [Visitation of Yorkshire, 1666, pp. 236 & 242, note f; Nova Oblata pro. com Linc.; 8 John]. In 1215, he was granted by King John the land os Hugh Pincerni in Arethorpe and Skaleberg in Craven, Yorkshire, and also the lands in Wulrickby, Lincolnshire, formerly of Robert de Ropesly, a rebel [Close Rolls, 17 John, pt. I, m. 12]. Before 1216, he was given lands in Brackenbury in Craven by Hugh de Lacy [Patent Rolls, 18 John, m. 5]. Later he was in the service of Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster in Ireland, by whom he was granted extensive estates there. In 1225, the lands of Robert Talbot in Ulster were seized by the King and given to the Bishop of Durham, the said Robert having served under his lord Hugh de Lacy in an insurrection against the King. He was pardoned and his lands restored to him after payment of a fine of £100.
He married Ermintrude, daughter and co-heir of Robert de Ferrers, son of Walcheline de Ferrers, a younger son of the Earl of Derby. She brought to her husband the manor of Eggington in Derbyshire [Pleadings in the Exchequer Rolls, 13 Henry III, Rot. 13].
The children of Ermintrude and Robert were:
William, son and heir, lived in Normandy where he died 26 Heny III (1242) leaving by Alice, his wife, daughter and sole heiress, Joanna Talbot who married Robert son of William de Stuteville.
John, received lands in Thorpe from his uncle Sylvester Talbot. He succeeded his brother as Lord of Gainsborough. He died without heirs.
Gerard, succeeded his brother as Lord of Gainsborough. He died in in 1258, and was succeeded by his son, Richard Talbot.
Robert, b. about 1205, youngest son.
~ Lineage of the Talbot Family, p. 11
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.19, 27;
Preferred Parents:
Father: William Talbot III Lord Of Gainsborough, b. ABT 1083 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire,England d. 1158 in Bashall Eaves, Clitheroe, Yorkshire, England
Mother: Ermentrude Ferreres, b. ABT 1143 in England d. DECEASED
Family 1: Emmeline de Grendon, b. ABT 1175 in Shardlow, Derbyshire, England d. 24 JUN 1228 in Burton-upon-Trent, Derbyshire, England
Family 2: Matilda Pereride, b. ABT 1223 in of Huddersfield, Yorks., Eng.
Family 3: Ermentrude de Ferrers, b. ABT 1165 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England d. ABT 1215 in Bashall Eaves, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
- m. ABT 1185 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England
- Ermentrude Talbot, b. 1200 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, , England d. 1242
Sources:
- Title: “The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.”
Author: “The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.,” written by J. Gardner Bartlett, printed Boston, Mass., 1917, p 5.
Note: Roger Talebot son of William Talebot, p. 5, Lines 17-27.
Page: Establishes William Talebot as having a child named Roger, who was heir to his estate.
- Title: “The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass."
Author: “The English Ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass.,” written by J. Gardner Bartlett, printed Boston, Mass., 1917, pp. 5-8.
Note: Robert Talebot, p. 5, Lines 35-44, p. 6, Lines 1-45, p. 7, Lines 1-41
Page: To clarify who Robert Talbot's father really was, correcting a mistaken notion that it was someone else.
- Title: Book - Lineage of the Talbot Family
- Title: Book - Lineage of the Talbot Family
- Title: Book - Lineage of the Talbot Family from Sire Talbot
- Title: Book - Burkes Geneaological & Heraldric History of Peerage Vol 10
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