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Juetta Arques
- Preferred Name: Juetta Arques[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Alternate Name: de Flamville
- Alternate Name: Scagglethorpe Yorkshire England
- Gender: F
- Death: ABT 1206 in Yorkshire, England
- Burial: 1206 in Guisborough, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.5363 LONG: E1.0519
- FSID: 9H2D-1SW
- Marriage (custom): 1169 in Yorkshire, England with note: Description: Iveta first married Roger de Flamville. When he died in 1169, she then married Adam de Brus II.
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- Birth: ABT 1127 in Thorpe Arche, Yorkshire, England
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
«b»Biography«/b»
Juetta de Arches married Roger de Flamville (d.1169) who held the 7 Arches knights' fees in her right in 1166. She had children by de Flamville but the fees eventually descended to Peter de Brus II indicating that her Brus children were her eventual heirs, not the Flamville ones. Her children by Roger Flamville were in the custody of Adam II during their minority. Adam II is known to have had two children, Piers and Isabel who married Henry de Percy. In 1193 Juetta gave land in Askham to her daughter Isabel de Brus. The charter clearly says "Noveritis me concessisse et presenti carta confirmasse Isabelle de Brus filie mee et heredibus suis totam terram de Ascham..." Farrer uncharacteristically makes the error of assuming that Isabella was her granddaughter.
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Juetta evidently retained or reclaimed some interest in Askham [Richard], the church of which had already been granted by her father to the nunnery of Nun Monkton, as she made a grant from it to her daughter. For further details and implications of this purchase see Mowbray Charters, pp. xxxix, 248–9; EYC, i. 414– 15, 426–9; Blakely, ‘Bruses of Skelton’, 25.
IVETA de Arches, daughter and heiress of WILLIAM de Arches & his wife --- (-after 1192). "Iveta de Arches, uxor domini Rogeri de Flamevilla" confirmed her husband´s donations to Malton priory by undated charter. "Jueta de Arches" donated property, formerly held by "Willelmus de Archis pater meus", to the church of St Peter, York by charter dated to [1167/90]. She married secondly Adam de Brus. "Juetta de Arches" granted property to "Isabelle de Brus filie mee"by charter dated to 1192.
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=== More notes on Ivetta... ===
Dodsworth [MSS. ii. 57] quotes a confirmation by John de Bella aqua or Bellow, a representative of Skelton Bruces, to the Priory of Nun Monkton, of a grant by William, son of Osbert de Arches and Iveta, his daughter, of lands in Monkton and Hammerton and the churches there at Askahm, and the chapel of Walton. Peter de Brus I, confirmed to the Canons of Helagh Park a croft and certain liberties in Walton given by his mother, the Lady Iveta, and the charter following he gives eight acres there in his new assart by the Wharfe, for the good of the soul of his mother Iveta de Archez [Chartulary of Helagh Park. Cott. MSS. Ve-p. A. iv. 54b]
~"The Brus Cenotaph at Guisbrough," Yorkshire Archeaology Journal, Vol. XIII, p. 245, footnote 29
• Background Information. 895
Osbern's (Ivetta's grandfather) surname in the Domesday Servey was written De Arcis which would be Arches, a place in Normandy. Osbern de Arches was Sheriff of Yorkshire about 1100. It is not known when he died or when he was born, but he was succeeded by his eldest son, William de Arches. William along with his wife, Ivetta, founded the Benedictine Priory at Nun Monkton. There was no male heir to this family, so Thorp passed to Ivetta who married twice, first to Roger de Flamville, and second to Adam de Brus, of Skelton, in Cleveland, who survived his wife Ivetta. Ivetta died in 1152, and was buried at Guisburgh Priory, which was founded by Robert de Brus in 1119.
~Lower Wharfedale, pp. 421-422
Iveta married Adam de Brus of Skelton, son of Adam de Brus Lord of Skelton and Agnes de Albemarle. (Adam de Brus of Skelton was born in Skelton Castle, Yorkshire, England, died on 20 Mar 1180 in Skelton Castle, Yorkshire, England 894 and was buried in Ginsbrough, Yorkshire, England .)
=== Juetta de Arches married Roger de Flamvi ===
Juetta de Arches married Roger de Flamville (d.1169) who held the 7Arches knights' fees in her right in 1166. [Charles Clay (ed.) 'EarlyYorkshire Families', p.2]. She had children by de Flamville but thefees eventually descended to Peter de Brus II indicating that her Bruschildren were her eventual heirs, not the Flamville ones. Her childrenby Roger Flamville were in the custody of Adam II during theirminority. Adam II is known to have had two children - Piers andIsabel who married Henry de Percy. In 1193 Juetta gave land in Askhamto her daughter Isabel de Brus. The charter clearly says "Noveritis meconcessisse et presenti carta confirmasse Isabelle de Brus filie meeet heredibus suis totam terram de Ascham..." Farreruncharacteristically makes the error of assuming that Isabella was hergranddaughter [EYC I ; no. 548, 549].
As Juetta died in 1206, she would have had to have been nearly 90 hadshe been mother of Adam II de Brus (b 1134). A not impossibleachievement, but highly unlikely for the time and place.
Now I can quickly summarize the argument of Ruth Blakely, 'The Brusesof Skelton and William of Aumale' in _Yorks Archeol Jnl_ (2001)73:19-28, which appears to be the clincher leading Keats-Rohan in DDto reverse the traditional order of two early Brus marriages, giving(1) the wife of Adam I de Brus as Agnes d'Aumale and (2) the wife ofAdam II de Brus as Juetta de Arches. Blaklely's article is devotedspecifically to this double question.
On Juetta de Arches: The conventional account, Blakely says, derivesfrom Dugdale in _Baronage of England_, in which he cites as evidence apapal mandate cited in _Mon. Ang._, where in fact Blakely finds that"It is not apparant from this record which of the two Adams issignified. Nor are they named in any of the other sources whichDugdale cites....His reasons for naming Adam I rather than Adam II asJuetta's husband are therefore obscure. Despite this ambiguity, theidentification was accepted by William Farrer and subsequent writers,such as Wormald, Greenway and Clay, although some of them, likeDalton, have noted inconsistencies arising from it" [18-20].
Blakely's argument takes as its starting point an alternative accountby William Brown, who -- giving Juetta as wife of Adam II -- in 1895had cited records in the chartulary of Healaugh Park Priory. Here 2grants appear, made by Adam II's son Peter de Brus I to the canons ofthe priory in the Arches fee. In one, Peter refers to his mother as'Juetta', and in the other specifically as 'Juetta de Arches'. Blakelycites further evidence e.g. that Adam II's daughter, Isabella, isgranted land from the Arches fee ca. 1192 by Juetta who calls her 'mydaughter' [22-3]. Blakely then offers an ample and concertedexplanation as to why, nevertheless, William, count of Aumale(eventually Earl of York per K. Stephen), and bro of Agnes d'Aumale,acquired custody of Adam II in the latter's minority (22-25).(Essentially he, as Adam II's maternal uncle, had immediate strongpolitical reasons for seeking some control over the large Brusdomain.) Blakely's conclusion is that Juetta de Arches, da. andultimately sole heir of William de Arches and widow of Roger deFlamville and still living 1209, is certainly the wife of Adam II deBrus.
An important aspect of Blakely's argument is that this reconstructionof the 4 marriages of Juetta and Agnes resolves a number of problemsthat have long dogged the Brus genealogy. A useful part of itsdevelopment is a thoughtful assessment of the historical (inter-familypolitical/economic) background to these events. Rosie, I think whenyour interloan copy gets to you you'll find that the article parallelsa good part of your smart chronological case, and yours may in factlend it further support.
From the collection of Jerry Dean Ferren.
=== Info about Ivetta de Arches... ===
m (after 1167) as her second husband, IVETA de Arches, widow of ROGER de Flamville , daughter and heiress of WILLIAM de Arches & his wife --- (-after 1192). "Iveta de Arches, uxor domini Rogeri de Flamevilla" confirmed her husband´s donations to Malton priory by undated charter. "Jueta de Arches" donated property, formerly held by "Willelmus de Archis pater meus", to the church of St Peter, York by charter dated to [1167/90]. "Juetta de Arches" granted property to "Isabelle de Brus filie mee" by charter dated to 1192.
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A Corner of Kent: Or, Some Account of the Parish of Ash-next-Sandwich, Its ...
By James Robinson Planché page 258
Preferred Parents:
Father: Guillaume de Arches, b. 1095 in Newton Kyme, Tadcaster, North Yorkshire, England d. ABT 1150
Mother: Ivetta Hammerstein, b. ABT 1094 in Halsham, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom d. ABT 1152 in Thorp Arch, West Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Family 1: Adam I de Bruce, b. ABT 1101 in Skelton, Yorkshire, England d. 1172
- m. ABT 1124 in Yorkshire, England
Family 2: Adam de Brus Lord of Skelton, b. ABT 1134 in Skelton, Yorkshire, England d. 11 MAR 1196 in Skelton, Yorkshire, England
- m. AFT 1169 in Skelton, Yorkshire, England
- Isabell de Brus, b. 1160 in Skelton Castle, Yorkshire, England d. AFT 1230 in Whitby, Yorkshire, England
- Peter de Brus Lord of Skelton, b. ABT 1170 in Skelton Castle, Yorkshire, England d. 27 JAN 1211 in Skelton Castle, North Yorkshire, England
Family 3: Hugh de Flamville, b. 1090 in Flamville, Lancashire, England d. 1130 in Yorkshire, England
- Roger de Flamville, b. ABT 1116 in Dalby, Yorkshire, England d. ABT 1168 in Thorpe in Rothwell, Yorkshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Iveta de Arches Birth: 1137 Scagglethorpe, Ryedale District, North Yorkshire, England Death: 1175 (aged 37–38) Skelton, York Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England Burial: Guisborough Priory, Guisborough, Redcar and Cleveland Unitary Authority, North
- Title: Adam de Brus & Arches in Family Group Records Collection, Archives Section, 1942-1969; https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9QY-6NB?cc=2060211&wc=WWF8-F3N%3A352086301%2C352519001
Author: "Family Group Records Collection, Archives Section, 1942-1969," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9QY-6NB?cc=2060211&wc=WWF8-F3N%3A352086301%2C352519001 : 20 May 2014), D > De Bruijn, William (1780) - Decker, Francois (1749) > image 485 of 1285; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, compiler, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9QY-6NB;
Note: Adam de Brus (1126-1196) married Ivetta de Arches and had children according to research before 1963
Page: Names, dates, locations, and relationships match research with some variations due to available sources
- Title: On Line Pedigree
Publication: Name: https://familytrees.genopro.com/Azrael/Skaggs/deLaArches-JuetaIvetta-ind06893.htm;
- Title: Ivetta d' Arches in Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p402.htm#i12050
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p402.htm#i12050;
Note: Ivetta d' Arches [1,2,3]
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #12050, d. between 1209 and 1212
Father William de Arches [2,3]
Mother Ivetta
Ivetta d' Arches married Adam II de Brus, Baron Skelton, son of Adam I de Brus and Agnes of Aumale, after 1169; They had 1 son (Sir Peter) & 1 daughter (Isabel, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, & of Sir Roger Mauduit).2,3 Ivetta d' Arches died between 1209 and 1212; She had married (1) Roger de Flamville (d. 1169). [2]
Family: Adam II de Brus, Baron Skelton d. 20 Mar 1196
Children:
Peter I de Brus, Baron Skelton & Danby+2 d. 12 Feb 1222
Isabel de Brus+3 b. c 1170, d. a 29 Mar 1246
Citations:
1. [S247] Unknown author, Wallop Family, p. 146.
2. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 214.
3. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 344.
Page: relationships
- Title: Iveta de Arches (1137-1175), "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2Y-BQZS : 11 June 2020), Iveta de Arches, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2Y-BQZS;
Note: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/85680360/iveta-de_arches
Iveta de Arches
BIRTH 1137 Scagglethorpe, Ryedale District, North Yorkshire, England
DEATH 1175 (aged 37–38) Skelton, York Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England
BURIAL Guisborough Priory
Guisborough, Redcar and Cleveland Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England
MEMORIAL ID 85680360
Iveta was the daughter of William and Iveta de Arches. Iveta married twice, she first married Roger de Flamville. Iveta married secondly Adam II de Brus.
- Title: Jueta (Ivetta) d'Arches
Publication: Name: https://www.mathematical.com/archesjuetta1116.html;
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