Henry Fitz-Sivard Lathom

• Preferred Name: Henry Fitz-Sivard Lathom
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: GZBR-3WD
  
• Divorce (custom): 1127 in Lathom, Lancashire, England at LATI: N3.5804 LONG: E2.8167 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Henry-de-Lathom-3rd-Earl-of-Lathom/6000000003828144072?through=6000000008248529197
  
• Birth: 27 APR 1093 in Lathom House, Lancashire, England at LATI: N3.5667 LONG: E2.8167
  
• LdsEndowment: 4 MAY 1951 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Death: 12 JUN 1128 in Lathom St James, Lancashire, England at LATI: N3.5804 LONG: E2.8167 with note: (Removed incorrect reference to UK)
  
• Burial: 14 JUN 1128 in Lathom St James, Lancashire, England at LATI: N3.5804 LONG: E2.8167
  
• LdsBaptism: 8 NOV 1947 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: 3rd Earl of Lathom
  
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  === Life Sketch ===
  confirmed Earl of Lathom 27 Apr 1114
  
  Henry FitzSiward de Lathom, 3rd Earl of Lathom. (confirmed Earl of Lathom 27 Apr 1114). B: 27 Apr 1093, Lathom House, Lathom, Lancashire, England. M: 24 Apr 1118, Chapelry of Lathom Cemetery, Lathom, Lancashire, England. D: 12 Jun 1128, Lathom House, Lathom, Lancashire, England. Interred: 14 Jun 1128 Chapelry of Lathom Cemetery, Lathom, Lancashire, England.
  
  Note: It was often said of him that he began the fall of the Latham clan of the halls of power. He was quite unfaithful to his wife Lady Alice. He was a mean and abusive husband. He had a long term affair with Martha Jane Hargrove and he had divorced Lady Alice to marry her. On the very day of his 2nd wedding, he was riding horseback with the wedding party. He was galloping after Martha when he failed to duck under a tree limb. He was knocked from his horse and broke his neck.
  
  Henry FitzSiward de Latham Lord of Latham, 24 years old, married Alice Woodward, who was 24 years old, daughter of Henry Woodward and Alice Wheaton, 24 April 1118 in Lathom, Lancaster, England. It would appear that they had NO sons, but at least one daughter. Robert, who was likely the son of Henry, was very probably the son of Martha Jane Hargrove.
  
  Lady Alice went 5 years before giving birth to their first child. Lord Henry was an abusive husband. These 2 facts earned her the nickname of "Poor Lady Alice." Following the birth of her second child, she was unable to conceive again. Lord Henry began cheating on her and in 1127 took an almost unheard action of seeking a divorce using her inability to have more children as the basis.
  
  It is widely believed that the son Robert was not really her son, but rather the son of her husband and a concubine. She did act as regent for Robert until he became of age, in 1144.2
  
  From Miscellanea Palatina:
  
  Henry Fitz-Siward also named in this Inquisition of 1212, was grantee of Flixton from Albert de Gredle the elder, who was Lord of Manchester feC* It is clear that Robert Fitz-Henry succeeded to Flixton, for he gave that Church to Burscough ; and the Inquisition cited states the Flixton property to have passed hereditarily to its time, which was subsequent to the death of this Founder. It also, as above stated, fixes the Founder's son, Richard Fitz-Robert, as heir of Siward Fitz-Dunning before-mentioned, and closes up the entire descent of blood and inheritance from Dunning to this Richard was necessarily lineal, although it is possible, though not probable, that there might be two successive Siwards.
  
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  Biography of Henry FitzSiward, Lord of Lathom 1093 - 1128.
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  Henry was named Earl of Lathom on his 21st birthday, 27 April 1114. It was often said of him that he began the fall of the Lathom clan of the halls of power.
  
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  === NAME: Henry Fitz-Siward /Latham_(DE_LATH ===
  NAME: Henry Fitz-Siward /Latham_(DE_LATHOM)/ BIRTH: PLAC Chapelry of Lathom,Lancaster,England DEATH: PLAC Chapelry of Lathom,Lancaster,England BURIAL: PLAC Chapelry of Lathom,Lancaster,England GEN: Henry Fitz-Siward GEN: Latham (DE LATHOM) GEN: Henry was named Earl of Lathom on his 21st birthday, 27 April 1114. It was often said of him that he began the fall of the Latham clan of thehalls of power. He was quite unfaithful to his wife Lady Alice. He was a mean and abusive husband. He had a long term affair withMartha Jane Hargrove and he had divorced Lady Alice to marry her. On thevery day of his 2n wedding, he was riding horseback with the weddingparty. He was galloping after Martha when he failed to duck under a treelimb. He was knocked from his horse and broke his neck. Lady Alice with the help of her friends and relatives was able to get themarriage annulled because it was never "legally" consummated. Lady Alice was named regent for her son Robert. It is said of MarthaHargrove that she bore Lord Henry a bastard daughter 8 months after hisdeath. GEN: @S383@ GEN: Earl/Lord of Lathom MARRIAGE: PLAC Chapelry of Lathom,Lancaster,England
  
  === Some historical background information on the first Lathom family members documented from historical records in England ===
  There appears to be considerable confusion in many records, particularly private records, concerning the pedigree of the Lathom family (also spelled in some records Latham). The first documented member of the family is Dunning de Lathom, who appears in historical records in “Lathom of Lathom in Lancashire”, “The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster, Volume 4” and “British History Online” [See documents in the Memories section]. Some records suggest he was born about 1030-1035, but that must be in error. There are ten well-documented generations between Dunning and Isabel Lathom, who last held the manor of Lathom and through her marriage to Sir John Stanley took the manor of Lathom to the Stanley family. Isabel Lathom was born about 1360-1365, marrying John Stanley about 1385. If Dunning de Lathom was born as early as 1030, there would be about 330 years between his birth and the birth of Isabel Lathom. One would expect to find 12 to 13 generations in a 330-year period of time, but there are only 10 generations of the Lathom family in that period of time. Dunning de Lathom simply could not have been born as early as many records suggest. The name of his wife is not given in the historical records.
  
  The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster contains a Lathom pedigree which confirms that Dunning was “living in the time of the Conquest”, without stating a particular date. What that suggests is that Dunning was born before 1066 and a time of birth about 1060-1065 appears to be a more accurate date for his birth. Dunning still did not hold the estate at Lathom at the time of the Domesday Book in 1086. The Manor of Lathom was among the 288 properties held from William the Conqueror by Roger de Poitou (also called Roger the Poitevin) who had accompanied the Conqueror to England in 1066. However, in 1102, Roger de Poitou joined in the rebellion against King Henry I, lead by Henry’s older brother Robert, and lost his holdings in England and was banished to France. Thus, it appears that Dunning could not have become Lord of Lathom until at least 1102 and it seems most likely that Dunning may have been a tenant of Roger de Poitou residing at Lathom in 1102 and Henry I simply allowed Dunning to remain at Lathom when Roger de Poitou forfeited his English properties while still retaining his French properties.
  
  There are also some private records which suggest that Dunning could be the son of Uchtred, Earl of Northumbria. That is totally in error. Uchtred was assassinated in 1016, some 50 years before the Conquest, so there is no possible connection between Uchtred and Dunning. Some records suppose that Dunning was an Earl, likely thinking he descended from Earl Uchtred. That is also in error. An Earl, called a Count on the European Continent, was a nobleman generally over an entire county, or at least a significant portion of a county. Being the lord of one or two manors does not make a person an Earl. And in the list of Earls created by William the Conqueror and later by King Stephen and by his cousin Maud, daughter of Henry I, there is no Earl named Dunning.
  
  Dunning was succeeded at Lathom by his son Siward Fitz-Dunning (Siward son of Dunning). Some records suggest Siward was born about 1070-1075, but again he must have been born much later, more in the time frame of 1095-1100 and he likely did not succeed Dunning at Lathom before about 1115-1125. The name of his wife is also not given in the historical records.
  
  Siward Fitz-Dunning had two documented sons: Orme Fitz-Siward and Henry Fitz-Siward. Orme Fitz-Siward married Emma, the youngest daughter of Albert de Gresley (also spelled Greslet, Gresle, Grelley, Grelle, and Greile in the Battle Abbey Roll), Third Baron of Manchester. Albert de Gresley was the son of Robert de Gresley who was the son of the first Albert de Gresley who accompanied William the Conqueror to England in 1066 and became the first Baron of Manchester, although he was a non-resident Lord of Manchester. The first Gresley to actually live in Manchester was Robert de Gresley. If the first Albert accompanied William the Conqueror to England (and he is found in the Domesday Book and also in the Battle Abbey Roll), he was likely born by 1040-1045. His son Robert was likely born in England following the Conquest, perhaps by 1070-1075. His son, Albert, the Third Baron of Manchester, could have been born about 1095-1100 and his reported youngest daughter Emma would have been born about 1125-1130, which would make her the right age to marry Orme Fitz-Siward who was likely also born about 1125-1130. The history “The Barony of Grelley” does not name Emma as a daughter of Albert, the Third Baron, but “The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster” does [See documents in the Memories section attached to the Gresleys].
  
  If Orme Fitz-Siward was born about 1125-1130 as noted above, that would place Henry Fitz-Siward’s birth at about 1128-1133, not in the 1090s as suggested in some records. The historical records do not name the wife of Henry Fitz-Siward and private records naming his wife appear speculative at best.
  
  Orme Fitz-Siward and his wife Emma de Gresley had at least three children: Roger Fitz-Orme de Assbeton, Thomas Fitz-Orme de Assbeton, and an unnamed daughter of Orme Fitz-Siward and Emma de Gresley. Henry Fitz-Siward had two identified sons: Sir Robert de Lathom, Lord of Lathom and Parbold (also called Robert Fitz-Henry), and Sir Richard de Lathom, Lord of Torbec (also called Richard Fitz-Henry).
  
  Sir Robert de Lathom (Robert Fitz-Henry] married the unnamed daughter of Orme Fitz-Siward and Emma de Gresley by which Robert obtained Parbold. Such a marriage would mean that Robert married his first cousin, because Robert is the son of Henry and his wife is the daughter of Orme, the older brother of Henry. That marriage was quite likely an attempt to retain the lands that the Lathoms held closely within the family. Some private records suggest that the wife of Robert de Lathom was Emma de Gresley, but that is in error. Emma de Gresley was the mother of Robert’s wife, not his wife. Robert de Lathom (Robert Fitz-Henry) was likely born no earlier than 1155-1160, not in the 1120s as some records suggest, with his brother Richard born about 1158-1163. Robert de Lathom (Robert Fitz-Henry) died in 1199. This is confirmed by a lawsuit filed on 29 October 1199 by Amabel, the wife of Robert, against Richard de Lathom the son of Robert [See document in the Memories section]. British History Online in a footnote notes that Amabel was probably the second wife of Robert, because she is referred to as "dau. of Simon" and Robert’s first wife “was the daughter and heiress of Orm, son of Ailward, and his wife Emma, dau. of Albert Grelley”. It is interesting to note that British History Online calls Emma’s father “Orm, son of Ailward” rather than Orme Fitz-Siward (Orme son of Siward) as he is referred to in The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster. But, clearly, Orm, son of Ailward, and Orme Fitz-Siward are the same person, spouse of Emma de Gresely (Grelley). Emma must have died quite some time before 1199 for Robert to have remarried, perhaps by 1190. Lending further credence to the fact that Amabel was the second wife is the fact that she felt it necessary to file suit against Robert’s son and heir Richard de Lathom for a dowry. If she had been the mother of Richard, certainly he would have provided for his mother as a caring son. However, he may have been reluctant to provide for a step-mother that he may have considered something of a “gold-digger”, trying to get his father’s wealth. The name of the wife of Richard de Lathom is not given in the historical records.

• m. 24 APR 1118 in Lathom St James, Lancashire, England

1. Robert FitzHenry - Lord de Lathom, b. 18 AUG 1123 in Lathom St James, Lancashire, England     d. 28 DEC 1185 in Lathom St James, Lancashire, England