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Alianore de Bohun
- Preferred Name: Alianore de Bohun[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]
- Alternate Name: Ferrers
- Gender: F
- Death: 20 FEB 1314 with note: Find A Grave (date; no location).
- Birth: 10 JUN 1248 in Debden, Essex, England at LATI: N1.9694 LONG: E0.2693
- Burial: 20 FEB 1314 in Walden Abbey, Saffron Walden, Essex, England at LATI: N2.0207 LONG: E0.2211
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Countess of Derby
- FSID: MNQS-C3W
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Biography
Eleanor de Bohun
Alianore de Bohun was born in 1248 at of Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire, Walden & Debden, Essex, England.
Father: Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun d. 27 Oct 1265
Mother: Eleanor de Brewes[4] d. b 12 Nov 1263
She married Sir Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl Derby, son of Sir William de Ferrers, 5th Earl Derby, Constable of Bolsover Castle and Margaret de Quincy, on 26 June 1269.
Sir Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl Derby b. c 1239, d. c 27 Apr 1279
They had 2 sons (Sir John, 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley; & Thomas) and 1 daughter (Eleanor, wife of Sir Robert, 1st Lord FitzWalter).
Sir John de Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Chartley b. 20 Jun 1271, d. c 27 Aug 1312
Thomas de Ferrers
Alianore de Ferrers b. c 1273, d. bt Sep 1303 - 10 May 1308
"Edmund son of King Henry (III) to Eleanor late the wife of Robert de Ferrers, late Earl of Derby: Grant, indented, for her life, of the will of Godmanchester: (Hunts)."
Alianore de Bohun died on 20 February 1314; Buried at Walden Abbey, Essex.
Inquisitions Pot Mortem
William le Boteler
11 Dec. 12 Edw. I (1283)
Petitioners: Eleanor de Ferrers
Nature of request: "The petitioner states that Earl William de Ferrers the elder married Anneys, daughter* of Randolph, Earl of Chester, and that they had two sons, William and Thomas. Anneys gave her manor of Chartley to Thomas, who was seised of it until his brother William died. Robert, the next Earl impleaded him for it, but it the end an agreement was reached whereby Thomas would keep Chartley and have the homages and lordships of Sandon as well. Thomas died seised of these, and Eleanor, the petitioner, was endowed with the whole manor of Chartley. She was seised until the death of William le Botiler, one of the parceners, then Lord Edmund disseised her of it by force. As it is part of the inheritance of John de Ferrers, who is under age and in his keeping, so she asks the King that he might not be disinherited."
sister, but one of his heirs
Plea Rolls
Assize Roll of Divers Counties, 7—12 E. I.
"Staff. An assize, etc., if Alienora the widow of Robert de Ferrars had unjustly disseised John le Foune of Holyngton of fifteen acres of land in Chartelay. Thomas Meverel the Bailiff of Alienora appeared for her, and stated that John had never been in seisin of the tenement."
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“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ROBERT DE FERRERS, Knt., 6th Earl of Derby, of Tutbury, Staffordshire, son and heir by his father's 2nd marriage, born about 1239 (aged 9 in 1249, came of age in 1260). He married (1st) at Westminster by contract dated 26 July 1249 MARY (or MARIE) DE LUSIGNAN (or MARY DE LA MARCHE), daughter of Hugues XI le Brun (or de Lusignan), Knt., Count of La Marche and Angouleme, seigneur of Lusignan in Poitou (uterine half-brother of Henry III, King of England), by Yolande, daughter of Pierre de Braine (nicknamed Mauclerc), Knt., Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond [see LUSIGNAN 6 for her ancestry]. She was born about 1242 (aged 7 in 1249). About 1260 he gave his younger brother, William de Ferrers, the manor of Bolton (in Great Bolton), Lancashire, together with all his lands in the wapentake of Leyland, Lancashire, including the manors of Bispham, Bolton, Bretherton, Charnock (in Charnock Richard), Chorley, Duxbury, Heath Charnock, Mawdesley, Shevington, and Welch Whittle, Lancashire. In the period, c.1254-60, he granted the manor of Easton, Leicestershire to his sister, Joan. In 1262 he made a gift in free alms to the Prior and convent of St. Thomas by Stafford of the manor of Sueneshurst and the township of Pendleton (in Eccles), Lancashire, together with the advowson of Stowe by Chartley, Saffordshire. On the outbreak of the Barons' War in 1263, he joined the Barons and seized three of Prince Edward's castles. He captured Worcester 29 Feb. 1263/4, and destroyed the town and Jewry. He absented himself from the Battle of Lewes, but, with 20,000 foot and many horsemen, put to flight the royal forces near Chester in November following. On 24 Dec. 1264 he was summoned to Parliament by writ directed Comiti Derb’. In that Parliament he was accused of divers trespasses and was sent to the Tower by Earl Simon de Montfort, but was pardoned 5 Dec. 1265. A few months later he again rebelled, and joining forces with John Deiville, Baldwin Wake, and others, he devastated the Midlands. He was subsequently captured by royal forces at the Battle of Chesterfield 15 May 1266, and remained a prisoner for nearly three years. All his castles, lands, and tenements were granted to the king's younger son, Edmund of Lancaster, 28 June 1266. His wife, Mary, was living 11 July 1266. In 1269 he regained his liberty by agreeing to redeem his lands by paying £50,000, a promise he later said was extorted from him under fear of corporal punishment while he was a prisoner, but was unable to raise the money. Robert married (2nd) 26 June 1269 ELEANOR DE BOHUN, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Knt., of Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heiress of William de Brewes, Knt. [see BOHUN 7 for her ancestry]. They had two sons, John, Knt. [1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley], and Thomas, and one daughter, Eleanor. Sometime in the period, 1269-79, he made a gift in free alms to the Prior and convent of St. Thomas by Stafford for the souls of himself and his two wives, Mary and Eleanor, with his own body to be buried at St. Thomas, of two messuages in the town of Chartley, together with the advowson of Stowe by Chartley, Staffordshire. In 1274 he unsuccessfully sued Edmund son of King Henry III in a plea that he might redeem his lands according to the Dictum of Kenilworth; Edmund replied that Robert could not claim the benefit of the dictum of Kenilworth, because after it was passed and published he had come to him of his own free will and agreed to redeem his lands and himself from prison for a sum of £50,000 to be paid to the said Edmund on the Quindene of St. John the Baptist, 53 Henry III. In 1275-6 he arraigned an assize of mort d'ancestor against Devorguille de Balliol touching a messuage in Repton, Derbyshire. In the same period, he arraigned an assize of mort d'ancestor against the master of the hospital of St. Lazarus of Burton touching a messuage and land in Burrow-Ash, Derbyshire. In the same period, he arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Sampson de Dun' and another touching a tenement in Breadsall, Derbyshire. In 1276-7 Geoffrey de Skeftington arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against him and others touching a tenement in Breadsall, Derbyshire. In the same period, Geoffrey de Skeftington arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against him and others touching a tenement in Morley, Derbyshire. SIR ROBERT DE FERRERS, sometime Earl of Derby, died shortly before 27 April 1279, and was buried at St. Thomas Priory at Stafford, Staffordshire. In Michaelmas term 1279 his widow, Eleanor, sued Edmund the king's brother for dower in a third of Tutbury, Scropton, Rolleston, Marchington, Calyngewode, Uttoxeter, Adgeresley, and Newborough, Staffordshire, and Duffield, Spondon, Chatesdene, and nine other vills named in Derbyshire; Edmund appeared in court and stated he held nothing in Spondon or Chatesdene, and as regards to the rest Eleanor had no claim to dower in them, because neither at the time Robert had married her nor any time afterwards had he been seised of them. About 1280 Eleanor petitioned the king for the restoration of the manor of Chartley, Staffordshire, stating it was part of the inheritance of her son, John de Ferrers, who is under age and in the king's keeping. In 1284 she sued Thomas de Bray in a plea regarding custody of the land and heir of William le Botiller. In 1286 a commission was appointed by the king to investigate the persons who hunted and carried away deer and felled and carried away trees in the park of Eleanor, late the wife of Robert de Ferrers, at Chardey, Staffordshire. In 1290 she and her brother, Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, acknowledged they owed a debt of £200 to Robert de Tibetot and Matthew de Columbers, the king's butler. In 1295 she presented to the church of Keyston, Huntingdonshire. She and her son, John de Ferrers, presented to the church of Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire in 1296. Eleanor, Countess of Derby, died 20 Feb. 1313/4, and was buried at Walden Abbey, Essex.
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#JohnFerrersdied1367A as of 6/18/2016
JOAN de la Mote of Willisham, Suffolk, [widow of EDMUND de la Mote,] daughter of ---
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#HumphreyBohunHereforddied1298A as of 1/31/2016
ELEANOR de Bohun (-20 Feb 1314, bur Walden Abbey). The primary source whic
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== Confusion concerning the second wife of Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby ===
A number of historical records (i.e., Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages; Cokaynes, Complete Peerage; and the Dictionary of National Biography) all seem to suggest that the second wife of Robert de Ferrers is reported to have been Eleanor Basset, daughter of Ralph Basset. However, there appears to be no documented evidence that Ralph Basset had a daughter named Eleanor who could have married Robert de Ferrers.
There do exist, however, several records confirming that Robert de Ferrers' second wife was Eleanor de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun VI and Eleanor de Braose [See documents in the Memories section]. Those records include the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (for both the Ferrers and Bohun pedigree lines), Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families, Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650 and Magna Carta Ancestry. It appears almost certain that Robert de Ferrers' second wife is Eleanor de Bohun and not Eleanor Basset.
=== SHE WAS 2ND WIFE. ===
SHE WAS 2ND WIFE.
=== BURKE'S PEERAGES (GS NUMBER 942 D22BUG) ===
BURKE'S PEERAGES (GS NUMBER 942 D22BUG) P.63, 198, 199; DUGDALES BARONAGE OF ENGLAND (GS NUMBER ESQ942 D22DDUG) P.269; THE COMPLETE PEERAGE (GS NUMBER REF 942 D22COK) VOL 2 P.236; SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.41, 49; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
=== Royal Ancestry Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ROBERT DE FERRERS, Knt., 6th Earl of Derby, of Tutbury, Staffordshire, son and heir by his father's 2nd marriage, born about 1239 (aged 9 in 1249, came of age in 1260). He married (1st) at Westminster by contract dated 26 July 1249 MARY (or MARIE) DE LUSIGNAN (or MARY DE LA MARCHE), daughter of Hugues XI le Brun (or de Lusignan), Knt., Count of La Marche and Angouleme, seigneur of Lusignan in Poitou (uterine half-brother of Henry III, King of England), by Yolande, daughter of Pierre de Braine (nicknamed Mauclerc), Knt., Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond [see LUSIGNAN 6 for her ancestry]. She was born about 1242 (aged 7 in 1249). About 1260 he gave his younger brother, William de Ferrers, the manor of Bolton (in Great Bolton), Lancashire, together with all his lands in the wapentake of Leyland, Lancashire, including the manors of Bispham, Bolton, Bretherton, Charnock (in Charnock Richard), Chorley, Duxbury, Heath Charnock, Mawdesley, Shevington, and Welch Whittle, Lancashire. In the period, c.1254-60, he granted the manor of Easton, Leicestershire to his sister, Joan. In 1262 he made a gift in free alms to the Prior and convent of St. Thomas by Stafford of the manor of Sueneshurst and the township of Pendleton (in Eccles), Lancashire, together with the advowson of Stowe by Chartley, Saffordshire. On the outbreak of the Barons' War in 1263, he joined the Barons and seized three of Prince Edward's castles. He captured Worcester 29 Feb. 1263/4, and destroyed the town and Jewry. He absented himself from the Battle of Lewes, but, with 20,000 foot and many horsemen, put to flight the royal forces near Chester in November following. On 24 Dec. 1264 he was summoned to Parliament by writ directed Comiti Derb’. In that Parliament he was accused of divers trespasses and was sent to the Tower by Earl Simon de Montfort, but was pardoned 5 Dec. 1265. A few months later he again rebelled, and joining forces with John Deiville, Baldwin Wake, and others, he devastated the Midlands. He was subsequently captured by royal forces at the Battle of Chesterfield 15 May 1266, and remained a prisoner for nearly three years. All his castles, lands, and tenements were granted to the king's younger son, Edmund of Lancaster, 28 June 1266. His wife, Mary, was living 11 July 1266. In 1269 he regained his liberty by agreeing to redeem his lands by paying £50,000, a promise he later said was extorted from him under fear of corporal punishment while he was a prisoner, but was unable to raise the money. Robert married (2nd) 26 June 1269 ELEANOR DE BOHUN, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Knt., of Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heiress of William de Brewes, Knt. [see BOHUN 7 for her ancestry]. They had two sons, John, Knt. [1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley], and Thomas, and one daughter, Eleanor. Sometime in the period, 1269-79, he made a gift in free alms to the Prior and convent of St. Thomas by Stafford for the souls of himself and his two wives, Mary and Eleanor, with his own body to be buried at St. Thomas, of two messuages in the town of Chartley, together with the advowson of Stowe by Chartley, Staffordshire. In 1274 he unsuccessfully sued Edmund son of King Henry III in a plea that he might redeem his lands according to the Dictum of Kenilworth; Edmund replied that Robert could not claim the benefit of the dictum of Kenilworth, because after it was passed and published he had come to him of his own free will and agreed to redeem his lands and himself from prison for a sum of £50,000 to be paid to the said Edmund on the Quindene of St. John the Baptist, 53 Henry III. In 1275-6 he arraigned an assize of mort d'ancestor against Devorguille de Balliol touching a messuage in Repton, Derbyshire. In the same period, he arraigned an assize of mort d'ancestor against the master of the hospital of St. Lazarus of Burton touching a messuage and land in Burrow-Ash, Derbyshire. In the same period, he arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Sampson de Dun' and another touching a tenement in Breadsall, Derbyshire. In 1276-7 Geoffrey de Skeftington arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against him and others touching a tenement in Breadsall, Derbyshire. In the same period, Geoffrey de Skeftington arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against him and others touching a tenement in Morley, Derbyshire. SIR ROBERT DE FERRERS, sometime Earl of Derby, died shortly before 27 April 1279, and was buried at St. Thomas Priory at Stafford, Staffordshire. In Michaelmas term 1279 his widow, Eleanor, sued Edmund the king's brother for dower in a third of Tutbury, Scropton, Rolleston, Marchington, Calyngewode, Uttoxeter, Adgeresley, and Newborough, Staffordshire, and Duffield, Spondon, Chatesdene, and nine other vills named in Derbyshire; Edmund appeared in court and stated he held nothing in Spondon or Chatesdene, and as regards to the rest Eleanor had no claim to dower in them, because neither at the time Robert had married her nor any time afterwards had he been seised of them. About 1280 Eleanor petitioned the king for the restoration of the manor of Chartley, Staffordshire, stating it was part of the inheritance of her son, John de Ferrers, who is under age and in the king's keeping. In 1284 she sued Thomas de Bray in a plea regarding custody of the land and heir of William le Botiller. In 1286 a commission was appointed by the king to investigate the persons who hunted and carried away deer and felled and carried away trees in the park of Eleanor, late the wife of Robert de Ferrers, at Chardey, Staffordshire. In 1290 she and her brother, Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, acknowledged they owed a debt of £200 to Robert de Tibetot and Matthew de Columbers, the king's butler. In 1295 she presented to the church of Keyston, Huntingdonshire. She and her son, John de Ferrers, presented to the church of Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire in 1296. Eleanor, Countess of Derby, died 20 Feb. 1313/4, and was buried at Walden Abbey, Essex.
Anselme Hist. de la Maison Royale de France 3 (1728): 75-81 (sub Lezignem). Shaw Hist. & Antiqs. of Staffordshire 1 (1798): 39 (Ferrers ped.), 85 (charter and seal of Robert de Ferrers, Earl of Derby dated c.1262). Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 1(1822-30): 123-124 (Ferrers ped.). Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 4 (1823): 140-141 (Walden Abbey: "Anno Domini MCCCXII. x. kal. Martii obiit Elianora comitissa Derbi, cujus corpus juxta magnum altare in parte boreal jacet humatum"); 6(1) (1830): 472. Palgrave Docs. & Recs. Ill. the Hist. of Scotland 1 (1837): 219 ("Alianora de Peters Comitissa" included on list of people owing military service in 1300). Hunter Eccl. Docs. (Camden Soc. 8) (1840): 71. Baines Hist. of the Commerce & Town of Livelpool 1 (1852): 97-133. Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 4th Ser. 2 (1856): 537-545. Luard Annales Monastici 1 (Rolls Ser. 36) (1864): 285 (Annals of Burton sub 1249: "Isto anno Robertus de Ferrariis, puer ix. annorum, filius Willelmi de Ferrariis comitis Derbeiæ, desponsavit apud Westmonasterium, Mariam vii. annorum puellulam, neptem regis Henrici filiam fratris sui comitis Engolismi et Marchiæ."). Delisle "Chronologie Hist. des Comtes de la Marche" (Bull. Société Archéologique et Hist. de la Charente 4th Ser. 4) (1867): 3-16. Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 35 (1874): 35; 45 (1885): 108, 161, 287, 338; 46 (1886): 110, 234; 47 (1886): 169, 171. Year Books of Edward I: Years XXX111-XXV 5 (Rolls Ser. 31a) (1879): 100-107. Francisque-Michel Roles Gascons 1 (1885): 487-488. Wrottesley Staffordshire Suits: Plea Rolls (Calls. Hist. Staffs. 6) (1885): 60, 63-64, 76, 97-98, 137, 250. Doyle Official Baronage of England 1 (1886): 549 (sub Derby). La Porta Les Gens de Qualité en Basse- Marche 1(2) (1886): 1-60 (Généalogie de Lusignan). Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 2 (1892): 279 (seal of Robert de Ferrers, Earl of Derby dated c.1265 - Obverse. To the right. In armour: hauberk, surcoat, flat-topped helmet with vizor down, sword, shield slung by a strap over the shoulder. Horse galloping, caparisoned. Arms: vaire [FERRERS]. Legend: * ROBS FIL' • ET • HERES • DNI : WILL’I : DE • FERRAR' QODA • COMITIS • DERBEYE. Reverse. A large shield of arms: vairé (in fourteen rows) [FERRERS], suspended by a strap from an elegantly designed conventional tree, and between two finely drawn wavy branches of foliage and flowers. Legend: * SIGILLVM • ROBERTI • DE • [FERRAR]IIS • COMITIS : DERBEYE. Beaded borders). Jeayes Desc. Cat. of the Charters & Muniments in the Possession of the Rt. Hon. Lord Fithardinge (1892): 118 (charter of Robert de Ferrers dated c.1254-60; charter witnessed by his brother, William de Ferrers, and his uncle, Sir Thomas de Ferrers). C.P.R. 1281-1292 (1893): 208. English Hist. Rev. 10 (1895): 19-40. Norris BadclesIg Clinton, its Manor, Church & Hall (1897): 101-110. C.Ch.R. 1(1903): 345 (Mary, wife of Robert de Ferrers, styled "king's niece"); see Cal. Liberate Rolls 3 (1937): 279; C.P.R. 1258-1266 (1910): 615. C.C.R. 1288-1296 (1904): 119. Parker Cal. of Lancashire Assize Rolls 1 (Lancs. & Cheshire Rec. Soc. 47) (1904): 122-123. Genealogist n.s. 21(1905): 78-82. Wrottesley Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 531-532. Jeayes Desc. Cat. Derlyshire Charters (1906): 116. Swinfield Reg. of Richard de Swinfield Bishop of Hereford (Canterbury & York Soc. 6) (1909): 389. VCH Lancashire 5 (1911): 243-251. Wedgwood Staffordshire Coats of Arms (Colls. Hist. Staffs. 3rd Ser. 1913) (1913): 300 (seal of Robert [de Ferrers], Earl Ferrers dated c.1265 - To the right. In slung over the shoulder. Horse galloping caparisoned. Arms: vairé [FERRERS]). C.P. 4 (1916): 198-202 (sub Derby); 5 (1926): chart foll. 320 (sub Ferrers), 472-474 (sub FitzWalter); 14 (1998): 468 (sub Marshal). Year Books of Edward 1113 (Selden Soc. 34) (1918): 59-67; 14(2) (Selden Soc. 43) (1927): 75-77. Wedgwood Staffordshire Parl.
=== Person note ===
also more info on Gentry-Woodson-? site of online family tree by ANcestry.com the family tree marked my woodson connections both are by Mark Ballard downloaded 2003
=== !SOURCE: "Magna Charta," Part VIII, by J ===
!SOURCE: "Magna Charta," Part VIII, by John B. Wurts, chp 285, pp2693 -2699
=== !Complete Peerage 942.D22cok V 4 pp. 305 ===
!Complete Peerage 942.D22cok V 4 pp. 305-312; on page 309 John de Bures & Hawise give land to Alianore de Lathom..pedigree on p. 205 I J Sanders English Baronies 942.R2sa p. 33 Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists 974.D2w Line 57
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
=== She was also known as Heiress of Debden. ===
=== b. Joan de la Mote was also called Lady ===
b. Joan de la Mote was also called Lady Willisham.
=== BIRTH: Also shown as Born Debden, Essex, ===
BIRTH: Also shown as Born Debden, Essex, England.
BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Saffron Walden, Essex, England.
=== !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Editio ===
!Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition L 57-30, 68-30, 97-29
=== Ancestral File Number: B3DC-TL ===
Ancestral File Number: B3DC-TL
=== ". . . dau of Sir Humprey de Bohun VI, E ===
". . . dau of Sir Humprey de Bohun VI, Earl of Herefore and Essex, grandson of Henry de Bohun, Magana Charta Surety, and Eleanor De Braiose, p. 100, Vol. II - PSECD - Langston & Buck, 1988. ". . . Robert De Ferrers, Earl of Derby, b 1239; d. 1279; m. June 26, 1269, Alianore De Bohun, d. Feb. 20, 1313/14, dau. of Sir Humprey de Bohun VI, . . . ad Eleanore de Braiose," p. 100, Vol. II - Ped/Some/Emp/Charl/Decs., Langston & Buck, Gen/Pub/Co/Inc., Balt/Md., 1988.
=== Sources: Ancestral Roots 68; Norr. Secon ===
Sources: Ancestral Roots 68; Norr. Second wife of Sir Robert Ferrers, who died without male issue.Apparently Eleanor de Bohun's son John took the name of de Ferrers and inheritedChartley. No other husband was listed for her, so child may have been illegitimate. Roots: Alianore de Bohun, died 20 Feb. 1313/1314.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees ===
V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees P.69 Earl Humphrey Bohun's daughters were 2nd cousins of Robert and Agnes Bohun given by some as wife of Robert had no descendants therefore AFN 18GK-BM1 is in error. See The Complete Peerage (CP Vol 5 P. 311 - pub. 1926).
=== !MARRIAGE: from The Complete Peerage, Vo ===
!MARRIAGE: from The Complete Peerage, Vol IV !DEATH: from The Complete Peerage, Vol IV !MARRIAGE: from The Complete Peerage, Vol IV !DEATH: from The Complete Peerage, Vol IV !MARRIAGE: from The Complete Peerage, Vol IV !DEATH: from The Complete Peerage, Vol IV
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.41; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
Preferred Parents:
Father: Roger de Quincy, b. ABT 1203 in England
Mother: Maud de Lusignan, b. 1200 in Lusignan, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France d. 8 OCT 1273 in Sorges, Gascony, France
Family 1: Robert de Ferrers 6th Earl of Derby, b. 1239 in Tutbury, Staffordshire, England d. APR 1279 in Chartley Castle, Stowe-by-Chartley, , Staffordshire, England
- m. 26 JUN 1269 in Staffordshire, England
- John de Ferrers, b. 20 JUN 1271 in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales d. 27 AUG 1312 in Gascony, France
- Eleanor de Louvaine De Ferrers, b. 1268 in Bildeston, Suffolk, , England d. 3 MAY 1326 in Essex England in dunmon priory
- Anne de Ferres of Groby, b. ABT 1264 in Of,Groby,Leicestershire,England d. 8 AUG 1337 in Groby, Leicestershire, England
Sources:
- Title: Ancestry Family Trees
Author: Ancestry Family Tree
- Title: Some Ferrers, Earls of Derby in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Note: Some Ferrers, Earls of Derby in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Some Ferrers, Earls of Derby in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Alianore de Bohun Ferrers, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2Y-TDXJ : 18 July 2020), Alianore de Bohun Ferrers, 1314; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2Y-TDXJ;
Page: Find A Grave Index Alianore de Bohun Ferrers
- Title: Proof of age for John de Ferrariis,kinsman and heir of Margaret de Ferrariis sometime countess of Derby
Author: 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward I, File 66', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 3, Edward I, ed. J.E.E.S. Sharp and A.E. Stamp (London, 1912), pp. 79-99. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol3/pp79-99 [accessed 23 January 2020].
Publication: Name: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol3/pp79-99;
Note: 154. JOHN DE FERRARIIS, kinsman and heir of Margaret de Ferrariis sometime countess of Derby.
Writ to the escheator to take the proof of age of the said John, and warn Edmund the king’s brother, who has the wardship of the lands &c. by the king’s grant, to be present if he wishes it, 15 June, 21 Edw. I [1293].
HUNTINGDON. Proof of age, 8 July, 21 Edw. I [1293], when Michael de Meledon came on behalf of the said Edmund, saying he believed the said John was of full age, but if the said Edmund holds any lands &c. of the inheritance of the said countess, the king ought not to restore them to the said John, for he believes his lord holds them as his free tenement.
Richard Foliot, prior of Bissemede, says that the said John was 22 on the fourth day before the feast of St. John the Baptist last, and this he knows because many years ago he heard it by the relation of Sir Robert de Hecham, rector of the church of Kestam, who at the time of the said birth was in the service of (stetit cum) the said countess, and sat at her table (fuit commensal’ ejusdem).
Robert de Hecham, rector of Kestan, says that the same John was born at Kaerdif on Saturday before the said feast 55 Hen. III [20 June 1271], and this he knows because he was then of the household of the said countess, who died 12 years ago, and then the said John was 10 years of age.
Andrew, rector of the church of Kinebauton, agrees, and says that Eleanor, mother of the said John, was married to Robert his father about the said feast 24 years ago, and two years after she bore the said John, at which time he was constable of Sir Humphrey (Wunfredi) de Booun, grandfather of the said Eleanor de Kinebalton, and had news at once of the said birth.
Richard de Beyvile, knight, agrees, and knows it because he has often heard many who knew the truth wondering that the said John had not his lands &c., being of age.
Alan de Chartris agrees, and recollects it because three years before the said John’s birth he had seisin of the lands of Joan his wife, which was 25 years ago and more at the feast of St. Nicholas last.
James de Sibford, knight, agrees, and knows it by the relation of the said Andrew and other trustworthy men, who used to wonder that the said John had not seisin of his lands being of full age.
Richard le Mariscal of Stonlee agrees, and knows it because at that time he was of the household of Humphrey (Unfredi) de Boun, great grandfather of the said John, and a month after the said birth Beatrice his own mother bore a daughter Agnes, who if she had lived would be 22 about the feast of St. James next.
Robert le Freman of Weston agrees, and knows it because on Wednesday after Palm Sunday, 9 Edw. I, after the death of the said countess an inquisition was made as to her lands &c. and the jurors said that the said John was her heir and would be 10 years of age at the feast of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist next following.
Richard le Haueker of Kestan agrees, and says that within four days after the said birth he had news of it, and at the feast of the Purification following, Isabel his wife bore a son John, who was 21 at the said feast last past.
Roger le Lord of Lethton and Nicholas Hildegar agree, and know it by the common report of the country, and relation of many trustworthy men.
Alexander Walkelyn agrees, and recollects it because at the feast of St. Peter ad Vincula, 1 Edw. I, he took one Basilia to wife, and at the feast of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist previous, the said John was 2 years of age.
E. Enrolment of Inq. p.m. &c. Roll. 4. m. 8d.
Page: Mentioned in this source.
- Title: Humphrey de Bohun (VI) and Eleanor de Braose (Briouse) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~ http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc21106849 [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc21106849;
Note: Humphrey de Bohun (VI) and Eleanor de Braose (Briouse) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~ http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc21106849 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Humphrey de Bohun (VI) and Eleanor de Braose (Briouse) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~ http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc21106849 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Line 68 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Line 68
Note: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Line 68 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Line 68 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families
Note: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 57
Note: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Eleanor de Braose and Humphrey de Bohun VI in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 68 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 68
Note: Eleanor de Braose and Humphrey de Bohun VI in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 68 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Eleanor de Braose and Humphrey de Bohun VI in Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, Line 68 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Geni: Eleanor de Bohun, Countess of Derby
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Eleanor-de-Bohun-Countess-of-Derby/6000000002603661953;
Note: Eleanor de Bohun, Countess of Derby
Gender: Female
Birth: 1239
Ewyas Lacy, Staffordshire, England, (Present UK)
Death: February 20, 1314 (75)
Place of Burial: Walden Abbey, Saffron Walden, Essex, England, United Kingdom
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Humphrey VI de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex and Eleanor de Bohun (de Braose)
Wife of Robert Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby
Mother of Sir John de Ferrers, 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley
Sister of Agnes De Bohun; Helisant Essex de Bohoun; Humphrey VII de Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford; Margery de Bohun; Gilbert de Bohun and 4 others
Half sister of John de Bohun of Haresfield and Margaret De Bohun
Added by: "Skip" Bremer on June 8, 2007
Managed by: Terry Jackson (Switzer) and 49 others
Curated by: Terry Jackson (Switzer)
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Alianor de Bohun Also known as Eleanor
From Medlands:
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(-20 Feb 1314, bur Walden Abbey). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. The History of the foundation of Walden abbey records the death “1313 X Kal Mar” of “Elianora comitissa Derbi” and her burial at Walden[490]. m (26 Jun 1269) as his second wife, ROBERT de Ferrers Earl of Derby, son of WILLIAM de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his second wife Margaret de Quincy of Winchester ([1239]-1279, bur [Stafford, Priory of St Thomas]). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
F, #38159, b. circa 1240, d. 20 February 1314
Last Edited=12 Nov 2008
Consanguinity Index=0.05%
Alianor de Bohun was born circa 1240 at Brecknock, Breconshire, Wales.1 She is the daughter of Sir Humphrey de Bohun and Eleanor de Briouze.1 She married Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby, son of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby and Margaret de Quinci, in 1269. She died on 20 February 1314.1
Alianor de Bohun was also known as Eleanor Bohun.1 Her married name became de Ferrers.
Child of Alianor de Bohun and Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby
Sir John de Ferrers, 1st Lord Ferrers (of Chartley)+ b. 20 Jun 1271, d. c 1312
Citations
[S125] Richard Glanville-Brown, online , Richard Glanville-Brown (RR 2, Milton, Ontario, Canada), downloaded 17 August 2005.
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- Title: Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun in Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. 1, pg. 153-54 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. 1, pg. 153-54
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