Payn FitzJohn

• Preferred Name: Payn FitzJohn^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• Occupation: Sheriff of Hereford and Shropshire
  
• Death: 10 JUL 1137 with note: Description: Killed in ambush while pursuing Welsh raiding party - pierced through the head by a javelin
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/John-FitzNigel/6000000002459920414?through=6000000006964012497
  
• FSID: GN9S-RBW
  
• Birth: BEF 1100 in Caus, Shropshire, England at LATI: N2.6431 LONG: E2.7136
  
• Death: 10 JUL 1137 in Wales at LATI: N2.3302 LONG: E3.7664
  
• Burial: 1137 in Gloucester Abbey, Gloucestershire, England at LATI: N1.8689 LONG: E2.2332
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Payn-FitzJohn-de-Burgh-Sheriff-of-Hereford-and-Shropshire/6000000004286992743?through=6000000003494703432
  
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• Occupation: Sheriff of Hereford
  
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• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors:
  
  Payn (Paganus) de FitzJohn1
  Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
  M, #9003, b. before 1100, d. 10 July 1137
  Father John "Monoculus" de Burgh, Lord Knaresborough d. b 1133
  Mother Magdalen of Blois
  Charts Some Descendants of Charlemagne (#1)
  Some Descendants of Charlemagne (#2)
  
  Payn (Paganus) de FitzJohn married Sibyl Talbot, daughter of Hugh Talbot de Lacy and Emma de Lacey. Payn (Paganus) de FitzJohn was born before 1100 at of Caus, Salop, England. He died on 10 July 1137 at Wales.
  
  Family
  Sibyl Talbot d. a 10 Jul 1137
  Children
  Agnes FitzPayne+ b. c 1125, d. bt 29 Sep 1190 - 29 Sep 1191
  Cicily FitzPayne+ b. c 1128, d. 1207
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  Wikipedia - (excerpt)
  Pain fitzJohn[a] (before 1100 – 10 July 1137) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman and administrator, one of King Henry I of England's "new men", who owed their positions and wealth to the king.
  
  Pain fitzJohn
  Ludlow Castle - geograph.org.uk - 1176434.jpg
  Modern ruins of Ludlow Castle
  Sheriff of Herefordshire
  In office
  between 1123 and 1127 – after 1136
  
  Personal details
  Died
  10 July 1137
  Resting place
  Gloucester Abbey
  Nationality
  Anglo-Norman
  Spouse(s)
  Sybil
  Relations
  Eustace (brother)
  William (brother)
  Alice (sister)
  Agnes (sister)
  John fitzRichard (father)
  
  Children
  Cecily
  Agnes
  
  Pain's family originated in Normandy, but there is little to suggest that he had many ties there, and he appears to have spent most of his career in England and the Welsh Marches. A son of a minor nobleman, he rose through ability to become an important royal official during Henry's reign. In 1115, he was rewarded with marriage to an heiress, thereby gaining control of the town of Ludlow and its castle, which he augmented with further acquisitions.
  
  Although later medieval traditions described Pain as a chamberlain to King Henry, that position is not securely confirmed in contemporary records. He did hold other offices, however, including that of sheriff in two counties near the border between England and Wales. In his capacity as a royal justice, Pain also heard legal cases for the king throughout much of western England.
  
  After King Henry's death in 1135, Pain supported Henry's nephew, King Stephen, and was with the new king throughout 1136. In July 1137, Pain was ambushed by the Welsh and killed while leading a relief expedition to the garrison at Carmarthen. His heirs were his daughters, Cecily and Agnes. Cecily married the son of one of Pain's close associates, Miles of Gloucester, 1st Earl of Hereford. Pain was generous in his gifts of land to a number of monastic houses.
  
  Family background
  
  Pain was a son, probably the eldest, of John fitzRichard,[b] a tenant-in-chief listed in Domesday Book.[7][c] John may have had two wives, therefore the identity of Pain's mother is uncertain.[9] On the basis of landholding, it has been speculated that Pain's mother was a daughter of Ralph Mortimer, who held Wigmore in Domesday Book.[10][d] As well as being a moneyer, Pain's paternal grandfather, who came from near Avranches in Normandy, owned a mill.[e] Pain's brother, Eustace fitzJohn, became a royal official who owned lands in the north of England.[13] His other siblings included William, Alice and Agnes.[9] William was probably the same William who later held Harptree in Somerset,[14] and in 1130 was a royal justice in western England.[15] Alice was the abbess of Barking Abbey and Agnes became the wife of Roger de Valognes.[9]
  
  Pain was born some time before 1100.[3] His father may have been in the service of King Henry in Normandy before Henry became king. The family lands in England, which were not extensive, were mainly in East Anglia,[16] and Pain appears to have inherited most of them; his payment for danegeld, a tax, in 1130 for his East Anglian properties was 40 shillings, compared to only 9 shillings for his brother Eustace.[17][f][g]
  
  Marriage and lands
  
  All accounts agree that Pain married in 1115 and that his wife was named Sybil, although the identity of Sybil's parents is unclear. Pain's Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry states that he married Sybil Talbot, the niece of Hugh de Lacy.[13] The Complete Peerage states that he married Sybil, the daughter of Geoffrey Talbot and Talbot's wife Agnes, who was herself probably the daughter of Walter de Lacy.[3] The historian K. S. B. Keats-Rohan states that Pain married Sybil de Lacy, the daughter of Hugh de Lacy,[5] a view shared by fellow historians Judith Green and Paul Dalton.[15][20][h] Others such as Bruce Coplestone-Crow and David Crouch agree with the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography's designation of Sybil as Hugh's niece,[23] and daughter of Geoffrey Talbot and Agnes, the sister of Hugh de Lacy.[16][24]
  
  King Henry and King Stephen recognised Pain as the legitimate holder of the lands acquired through his wife Sybil. Her kinsman Gilbert de Lacy was the son of Roger de Lacy, who had been banished from England in 1095 and his English estates confiscated; he had though retained his properties in Normandy. Roger's English possessions were given to his brother Hugh de Lacy, from whom Sybil had inherited them. On Roger's death Gilbert inherited the lands in Normandy, and pressed his claim to the family's former English estates. Coplestone-Crow speculates that the uncertainty hanging over the inheritance was one reason why Pain endeavoured to secure more lands around Ludlow.[25]
  
  Pain is the presumed builder of Pain's Castle in the Welsh county of Radnor. He also controlled Caus Castle in Shropshire,[3] and through his wife Ludlow Castle in the same county.[26] Although he held the title to Weobley Castle,[23] he does not appear to have exercised any control over it, which eventually went to Gilbert de Lacy.[27] Pain was not the only recipient of Hugh de Lacy's lands; some went to Jocelin de Dinan and some to Miles of Gloucester.[21] Pain's share included property in Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, and Worcestershire,[22] and he succeeded in acquiring additional lands near Ludlow, adding to the manors he held there through his wife;[28] his holdings of land were considered to be worth 17 knights fees.[29] By 1130 he had evidently acquired additional properties in Oxfordshire, where he is recorded as being excused payment of danegeld that year.[30]
  
  On 10 July 1137 Pain was killed by a javelin blow to the head[62] during an ambush by the Welsh[13][l] as he was leading a relief expedition to the garrison at Carmarthen.[62]
  
  He was buried in Gloucester Abbey,[13] following a funeral service conducted by Robert de Bethune. A number of barons from the Welsh Marches attended, including Miles of Gloucester.[63] Pain's widow continued to hold Ludlow Castle until the middle of 1139, when she was forced to surrender it to King Stephen.[64] Stephen then gave Sybil in marriage to Jocelin de Dinan, who consequently acquired Ludlow Castle through his new wife, setting up the background to Gilbert Lacy's attempts to seize Ludlow from Dinan on which the medieval Welsh romance work Fouke le Fitz Waryn is based.[65]
  
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  === Pain FitzJohn (d 1137), judge, was a bro ===
  Pain FitzJohn (d 1137), judge, was a brother of Eustace FitzJohn. The evidence for this a charter of Henry I (1133) to Cirencester Priory, in which Eustace and William are styled his brothers. He belonged to that official class which was fostered by Henry I. Mr Eyton holds htat he was given the government of Salop about 1127. In the 'Pipe Roll' of 1130 he is found acting as a justice itinerant in Staffordshire, Floucestershire, and Northamptonshire, in conjunction with Miles of Gloucester, whose son eventually married his daughter. He is frequently, during the latter part of the reign, found as a witness to royal charters. In 1134 his castle of Caus on the Welsh border was stormed and burnt in his absence by the Welsh. At the succession of Stephen he was sheriff of Shropshire and Herefordshire. At first he held aloof, but was eventually, with Miles of Gloucester, persmacded by Stephen to join him. HIs name is found among the witnesses to Stephen's Charter of LIberties early in 1136. In the following year, when attacking some Welsh rebels, he was slain (10 July 1137), and his body beign brought to Gloucester, was there buried. By a charter granted shortly afterwards Stephen confirmed his whoe possessions to his daughter Cicily, wife of Roger, son of Miles of Gloucester. Dugdale erroneously assigns him Robert Fitzpain as a son. [Dictionary of National Biography VI:184]
  
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  PAYN FITZJOHN, probably 1st son and heir, was born before 1100. He was one of those minor barons who rose to importance and wealth as officers of Henry I, and from 1120 or earlier he constantly attests royal charters. In 1126 he became the King's vice-gerent in the palatine county of Shropshire. In 1130 he was acting as a Justice in cos. Stafford, Gloucester and Northants, usually in conjunction with Miles of Gloucester. He is said to have built Pain's Castle, co. Radnor; and in 1134 the Welsh burnt his castle of Caus, Salop, and slew all its inmates. At the death of Henry I he was vice-gerent of cos. Hereford and Salop; and he and Miles abovenamed, who ruled co. Gloucester, had extended their power over the Marches from the Severn to the sea. With other officers of the late King they would not go to court without a safe-conduct, fearing that they might be forced to disgorge the wealth which they had accumulated. Eventually they joined Stephen at Reading for the late King's funeral in January 1135/6. At Easter Payn was with Stephen at Westminster and he proceeded with the King to Oxford.
  
  He married Sibyl, daughter of Geoffrey TALBOT, by Agnes, probably daughter of Walter DE LACY. Payn gave Sibyl as dower land from his own inheritance. He was killed when pursuing Welsh marauders by a javelin which pierced his head, and so died s.p.m. 10 July 1137 and was buried in the chapter-house of Gloucester Abbey. Sibyl survived him (j). [Complete Peerage XII/2:270-1, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  
  (j) Shortly after her husband's death the Bishop of Salisbury, as Chief Justiciar, ordered her to restore the property of her late husband removed by her since the confirmation of his possessions to their elder daughter, Cecily and her husband Roger, son of Miles de Gloucester, in particular the wheat, hay and wine. As Sybil de Lacy, for her soul and for the soul of her lord Pay FitzJohn, she confirmed a grant to her uncle, Walter de Lacy, Abbot of Gloucester.
  
  === Note:
  PAYN FITZJOHN, probably 1st son a ===
  Note:
  PAYN FITZJOHN, probably 1st son and heir, was born before 1100. He was one of those minor barons who rose to importance and wealth as officers of Henry I, and from 1120 or earlier he constantly attests royal charters. In 1126 he became the King's vice-gerent in the palatine county of Shropshire. In 1130 he was acting as a Justice in cos. Stafford, Gloucester and Northants, usually in conjunction with Miles of Gloucester. He is said to have built Pain's Castle, co. Radnor; and in 1134 the Welsh burnt his castle of Caus, Salop, and slew all its inmates. At the death of Henry I he was vice-gerent of cos. Hereford and Salop; and he and Miles abovenamed, who ruled co. Gloucester, had extended their power over the Marches from the Severn to the sea. With other officers of the late King they would not go to court without a safe-conduct, fearing that they might be forced to disgorge the wealth which they had accumulated. Eventually they joined Stephen at Reading for the late King's funeral in January 1135/6. At Easter Payn was with Stephen at Westminster and he proceeded with the King to Oxford.
  
  He married Sibyl, daughter of Geoffrey TALBOT, by Agnes, probably daughter of Walter DE LACY. Payn gave Sibyl as dower land from his own inheritance. He was killed when pursuing Welsh marauders by a javelin which pierced his head, and so died s.p.m. 10 July 1137 and was buried in the chapter-house of Gloucester Abbey. Sibyl survived him (j). [Complete Peerage XII/2:270-1, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  
  (j) Shortly after her husband's death the Bishop of Salisbury, as Chief Justiciar, ordered her to restore the property of her late husband removed by her since the confirmation of his possessions to their elder daughter, Cecily and her husband Roger, son of Miles de Gloucester, in particular the wheat, hay and wine. As Sybil de Lacy, for her soul and for the soul of her lord Pay FitzJohn, she confirmed a grant to her uncle, Walter de Lacy, Abbot of Gloucester.
  
  === M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 15, ===
  M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 15,27
  
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  === !Sheriff of Hereford ===
  !Sheriff of Hereford
  
  === Life sketch - moved due to no attribution ===
  Payn FitzJohn de Burgh, Sheriff of Hereford and Shropshire
  b- 1086 - Ewyas, Herefordshire, England
  m- some say Sybil Talbot
  some say Sybil Lacy
  d- July 10, 1137 (47-55) Holkham, Norfolk, England
  bur - Gloucester Abbey, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
  Immediate Family:
  
  eldest Son of John Monoculus de Burgh, of Saxlingham, Lord of Knaresborough and Magdalena Cecily Fitznigel de Blois
  (wikepedia states his mother was Miss d/o Ralph Mortimer, of Wigmore 1086 & money lender)
  
  Husband of Sibyl Talbot
  or m- Sybil Lacy as she was heir of Painswick, Gloucestershire & WILLIAM Munchesney who d- by 1212 - held Painswick
  
  his male heir was his brother Eustace FitzJohn
  
  Father of Y Golwg ap Payne; Aaron fitz Payne; Cecily FitzPayne, Countess of Hereford and Agnes FitzPayn
  
  Brother of Eustace FitzJohn, Lord of Alnwick, Constable of Knaresborough and Cheshire; William FitzJohn; Adelais FitzJohn, Abbess of Barking; Aubreye de Vesci and Agnes FitzJohn, Abbess of Barking
  
  Added by:
  Pablo Benítez Barreto on July 3, 2008
  Managed by:
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  Payn FitzJohn
  s/o John FitzRichard & Magdalen Blois
  b- abt 1089 - Ewyas, Herefordshire, England
  m- Sybil Talbot
  d- 10 July 1137 - in ambush while pursuing a raiding party - an Arrow split his Head open
  bur - Gloucester Abbey,
  
  after death of King Henry - Payn was at his funeral
  1136 - he was supporter of King Stephen & witnessed the royal charter given at Oxford
  in Shropshire his role as Border Adminster & gaurdian was assumed by the FitzAlan's
  
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  He was perhaps the eldest son of John, nephew of Waleram, also known as John fitz Richard, and the grandson of a moneyer who held a mill in the Avranchin. He shared two characteristics with several other of the new men who served Henry I: a link with western Normandy and the status of an inferior tenant-in-chiefin 1086 his father held only a few estates in Norfolk and Essex. His brother Eustace fitz John (d. 1157) was drawn by marriage to northern England; for the same reason Pain was attracted to the west midlands.
  Following King Henry's death Pain was present at his funeral: he declared early for Stephen and witnessed the royal charter of concessions given at Oxford in April 1136. But the Welsh, perhaps those who had moved on Caus, drew him back to the border and to his death. On 10 July 1137 he was killed in an ambush while pursuing a raiding party: a missile split his head open and he was buried in Gloucester Abbey. Pain left no son but he had two daughters, Cecily and Agnes, who between them had five husbands. Cecily was married first (in 1137) to Roger, the son of Miles of Gloucester, but Pain's acquisitions did not descend as an entity. In Shropshire his role as a border administrator and guardian was assumed by the Fitzalans and then the Lestranges.
  
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  PAYN FITZJOHN, probably 1st son and heir, was born before 1100. He was one of those minor barons who rose to importance and wealth as officers of Henry I, and from 1120 or earlier he constantly attests royal charters. In 1126 he became the King's vice-gerent in the palatine county of Shropshire. In 1130 he was acting as a Justice in cos. Stafford, Gloucester and Northants, usually in conjunction with Miles of Gloucester. He is said to have built Pain's Castle, co. Radnor; and in 1134 the Welsh burnt his castle of Caus, Salop, and slew all its inmates. At the death of Henry I he was vice-gerent of cos. Hereford and Salop; and he and Miles abovenamed, who ruled co. Gloucester, had extended their power over the Marches from the Severn to the sea. With other officers of the late King they would not go to court without a safe-conduct, fearing that they might be forced to disgorge the wealth which they had accumulated. Eventually they joined Stephen at Reading for the late King's funeral in January 1135/6. At Easter Payn was with Stephen at Westminster and he proceeded with the King to Oxford.
  He married Sibyl, daughter of Geoffrey TALBOT, by Agnes, probably daughter of Walter DE LACY. Payn gave Sibyl as dower land from his own inheritance. He was killed when pursuing Welsh marauders by a javelin which pierced his head, and so died s.p.m. 10 July 1137 and was buried in the chapter-house of Gloucester Abbey. Sibyl survived him (j). [Complete Peerage XII/2:270-1, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  (j) Shortly after her husband's death the Bishop of Salisbury, as Chief Justiciar, ordered her to restore the property of her late husband removed by her since the confirmation of his possessions to their elder daughter, Cecily and her husband Roger, son of Miles de Gloucester, in particular the wheat, hay and wine. As Sybil de Lacy, for her soul and for the soul of her lord Pay FitzJohn, she confirmed a grant to her uncle, Walter de Lacy, Abbot of Gloucester.
  
  Built - Pains Castle,Radnor,Wales
  held - Ewyas Lacy,Herefordshire - Ludlow,Shropshire - land in Oxfordshire & Gloucestershire & Berkshire & Norfolk
  
  1134 - the Welsh slaughters everyone at his manor of Caus

• m. ABT 1124

1. Agnes FitzPayne, b. ABT 1125 in Holkam, Norfolk, England     d. BEF 29 SEP 1191 in Norfolk, England

1. Title: Wikipedia - Payne FitzJohn
   Author: Bartlett, Robert C. (2000). England Under the Norman and Angevin Kings: 1075–1225. Oxford, UK: Clarendon Press. ISBN 0-19-822741-8. Brett, M. (1975). The English Church under Henry I. Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-821861-3. Chibnall, Marjorie (1991). The Empress Matilda: Queen Consort, Queen Mother and Lady of the English. Oxford, UK: Blackwell. ISBN 0-631-19028-7. Cokayne, George E. (1982) [1959]. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant. Vol. XII/2 (Microprint ed.). Gloucester, UK: A. Sutton. ISBN 0-904387-82-8. Coplestone-Crow, Bruce (2000). "From Foundation to Anarchy". In Shoesmith, Ron; Johnson, Andy (eds.). Ludlow Castle: Its History & Buildings. Little Logaston, UK: Logaston Press. pp. 21–34, 215–217, 233–235. ISBN 1-873827-51-2. Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. (1999). Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066–1166: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum.
   Publication: Name: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_fitzJohn;
   Note: (excerpt from Wikipedia) Pain fitzJohn (before 1100 – 10 July 1137) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman and administrator, one of King Henry I of England's "new men", who owed their positions and wealth to the king. Pain's family originated in Normandy, but there is little to suggest that he had many ties there, and he appears to have spent most of his career in England and the Welsh Marches. A son of a minor nobleman, he rose through ability to become an important royal official during Henry's reign. In 1115, he was rewarded with marriage to an heiress, thereby gaining control of the town of Ludlow and its castle, which he augmented with further acquisitions. Although later medieval traditions described Pain as a chamberlain to King Henry, that position is not securely confirmed in contemporary records. He did hold other offices, however, including that of sheriff in two counties near the border between England and Wales. In his capacity as a royal justice, Pain also heard legal cases for the king throughout much of western England. After King Henry's death in 1135, Pain supported Henry's nephew, King Stephen, and was with the new king throughout 1136. In July 1137, Pain was ambushed by the Welsh and killed while leading a relief expedition to the garrison at Carmarthen. His heirs were his daughters, Cecily and Agnes. Cecily married the son of one of Pain's close associates, Miles of Gloucester, 1st Earl of Hereford. Pain was generous in his gifts of land to a number of monastic houses. Marriage and lands All accounts agree that Pain married in 1115 and that his wife was named Sybil, although the identity of Sybil's parents is unclear. Pain's Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry states that he married Sybil Talbot, the niece of Hugh de Lacy. The Complete Peerage states that he married Sybil, the daughter of Geoffrey Talbot and Talbot's wife Agnes, who was herself probably the daughter of Walter de Lacy. The historian K. S. B. Keats-Rohan states that Pain married Sybil de Lacy, the daughter of Hugh de Lacy, a view shared by fellow historians Judith Green and Paul Dalton. Others such as Bruce Coplestone-Crow and David Crouch agree with the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography's designation of Sybil as Hugh's niece, and daughter of Geoffrey Talbot and Agnes, the sister of Hugh de Lacy. King Henry and King Stephen recognised Pain as the legitimate holder of the lands acquired through his wife Sybil. Her kinsman Gilbert de Lacy was the son of Roger de Lacy, who had been banished from England in 1095 and his English estates confiscated; he had though retained his properties in Normandy. Roger's English possessions were given to his brother Hugh de Lacy, from whom Sybil had inherited them. On Roger's death Gilbert inherited the lands in Normandy, and pressed his claim to the family's former English estates. Coplestone-Crow speculates that the uncertainty hanging over the inheritance was one reason why Pain endeavoured to secure more lands around Ludlow. Pain is the presumed builder of Pain's Castle in the Welsh county of Radnor. He also controlled Caus Castle in Shropshire, and through his wife Ludlow Castle in the same county. Although he held the title to Weobley Castle, he does not appear to have exercised any control over it, which eventually went to Gilbert de Lacy. Pain was not the only recipient of Hugh de Lacy's lands; some went to Jocelin de Dinan and some to Miles of Gloucester. Pain's share included property in Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, and Worcestershire, and he succeeded in acquiring additional lands near Ludlow, adding to the manors he held there through his wife; his holdings of land were considered to be worth 17 knights fees. By 1130 he had evidently acquired additional properties in Oxfordshire, where he is recorded as being excused payment of danegeld that year. Death and legacy On 10 July 1137 Pain was killed by a javelin blow to the head during an ambush by the Welsh as he was leading a relief expedition to the garrison at Carmarthen. He was buried in Gloucester Abbey, following a funeral service conducted by Robert de Bethune. A number of barons from the Welsh Marches attended, including Miles of Gloucester. Pain's widow continued to hold Ludlow Castle until the middle of 1139, when she was forced to surrender it to King Stephen. Stephen then gave Sybil in marriage to Jocelin de Dinan, who consequently acquired Ludlow Castle through his new wife, setting up the background to Gilbert Lacy's attempts to seize Ludlow from Dinan on which the medieval Welsh romance work Fouke le Fitz Waryn is based. Pain's heirs were his two daughters, Cecily and Agnes. His heir male was his brother, Eustace fitzJohn. The two daughters were married five times in total; Cecily married three times but failed to produce any direct heirs. Her first husband was Roger, the son of Miles of Gloucester. Pain arranged Cecily and Roger's marriage. The marriage contract specified that Roger would inherit all of Pain's lands, but as result of the latter's death the marriage was not contracted until December 1137, when King Stephen confirmed the terms of the settlement. The king also settled the bulk of the inheritance on Cecily, which led to disturbances and a minor war among disappointed claimants. Agnes married Warin de Munchensy and after his death Haldenald de Bidun. She died after 1185, by which time she was described as a widow.
   
2. Title: Payn FitzJohn, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2K-P5QJ : 10 June 2020), Payn FitzJohn, 1137; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2K-P5QJ;
   
3. Title: Payn FitzJohn, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2K-P5QJ : 10 June 2020), Payn FitzJohn, 1137; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
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4. Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
   Author: Citations [S2388] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/2, p. 270/1.
   Publication: Name: https://www.our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p300.htm#i9003;
   Note: Payn (Paganus) de FitzJohn1 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 M, #9003, b. before 1100, d. 10 July 1137 Father John "Monoculus" de Burgh, Lord Knaresborough d. b 1133 Mother Magdalen of Blois Charts Some Descendants of Charlemagne (#1) Some Descendants of Charlemagne (#2) Payn (Paganus) de FitzJohn married Sibyl Talbot, daughter of Hugh Talbot de Lacy and Emma de Lacey. Payn (Paganus) de FitzJohn was born before 1100 at of Caus, Salop, England. He died on 10 July 1137 at Wales. Family Sibyl Talbot d. a 10 Jul 1137 Children Agnes FitzPayne+ b. c 1125, d. bt 29 Sep 1190 - 29 Sep 1191 Cicily FitzPayne+ b. c 1128, d. 1207
   
5. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#JohnsonRichardA;
   
6. Title: The Origins of Eustace FitzJohn in The Complete Peerage
   Author: Cokayne, George Edward and Geoffrey White ed. Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Vol. XII part 2: Tracton to Zouche, 2nd edition. (London, 1959), Appendix B, image 979 (page 7)
   Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/579047/?offset=0#page=979&viewer=picture&o=search&n=0&q=fitzjohn;
   Page: Appendix A describes his father and brothers.
   
7. Title: Vesci in The Complete Peerage
   Author: The Complete Peerage, vol. 12
   Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/579047/?offset=0#page=278&viewer=picture&o=search&n=0&q=Vesci;
   Page: page 270-1, eldest son, he is named before Eustace and William in two of Henry's charters.
   
8. Title: Geni.com, Payn FitzJohn de Burgh, Sheriff of Hereford and Shropshire
   Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Payn-FitzJohn-de-Burgh-Sheriff-of-Hereford-and-Shropshire/6000000004286992743?through=6000000003494703432;
   Note: Payn FitzJohn de Burgh, Sheriff of Hereford and Shropshire MP Gender: Male Birth: Ewyas, Herefordshire, England Death: July 10, 1137 (47-55) Holkham, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom Place of Burial: Gloucester Abbey, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom Immediate Family: Son of John Monoculus de Burgh, of Saxlingham, Lord of Knaresborough and Magdalena Cecily Fitznigel de Blois Husband of Sibyl Talbot Father of Y Golwg ap Payne; Aaron fitz Payne; Cecily FitzMiles, Countess of Hereford and Agnes FitzPayn, Countess of Hereford Brother of Eustace FitzJohn, Lord of Alnwick, Constable of Knaresborough and Cheshire; William FitzJohn; Adelais FitzJohn, Abbess of Barking; Aubreye de Vesci and Agnes FitzJohn, Abbess of Barking Added by: Pablo Benítez Barreto on July 3, 2008 Managed by: Margaret (C) and 31 others Curated by: Ric Dickinson