Clemence de Bar

• Preferred Name: Clemence de Bar^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]}
  
• Alternate Name: de Bar-sur-Aube
  
• Alternate Name: de Dammartin
  
• Gender: F
  
• FSID: LDMD-8L3
  
• Death: 1183 in Beauvais, Oise, Picardie, France at LATI: N9.4354 LONG: E0.0865
  
• Noble Family: with note: Description: Montbéliard
  
• Birth: 1123 in Dammartin, Ile De France, France
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Cl%C3%A9mence-de-Dammartin-de-Bar/6000000043357348488?through=6000000002248177181
  
• Burial: in Saint-Mihiel, Meuse, Lorraine, France at LATI: N8.8892 LONG: E0.5436
  
• Clan Name: with note: Description: House of Montbéllard
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Countess of Dammartin
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
  “RENAUD II, seigneur of Clermont, afterwards Count of Clermont-en-Beauvaisis, Châtelain of Creil, and, in right of his 1st wife, Count of Vermandois, son and heir. He went on Crusade in 1099. He married (1st) before 1104 ADELE DE VERMANDOIS, Countess of Vermandois, widow of Hugues le Grand, Count of Crépy (died 1101) [see VERMANDOIS 4], and daughter of Heribert IV, Count of Vermandois, by Adèle, daughter of Raoul III, Count of Valois. She was born about 1065.
  
  They had one daughter, Marguerite (wife of Charles le Bon, Count of Flanders, Hugues II Candevène, Count of Saint-Pol, and Baudouin d'Encre). In 1115 he granted a fair of three days at Saint-Jean to the collégiale of Clermont. His wife, Adele, died 28 September, between 1120 and 1124.
  
  He married (2nd) CLEMENCE OF BAR, daughter of Renaud I, Count of Bar-le-Duc, by Gisèle, daughter of Gérard, Count of Vaudémont.
  
  They had seven sons, Raoul (I) “le Roux” [Count of Clermont, Constable of France], Simon, Chev., Etienne, Guy, Renaud, Hugues [Dean of Metz, Abbot of Saint-Germer, Saint-Lucien, and Cluny], and Gautier, and three daughters, Marguerite (wife of Guy III de Senlis, seigneur of Chantilly, Boutillier of France), Mahaut (or Mathilde), and Comtesse (wife of Rogues de la Tournelle).
  
  In 1152 he confirmed the gifts of his parents, Hugues and Marguerite, and Hugh and Richard, Earls of Chester, to St.-Leu d'Esserent. RENAUD II, Count of Clermont-en-Beauvaisis, died before 1162.
  
  His widow, Clémence, married (3rd) THIBAUT III DE NANTEUIL, seigneur of Nanteuil-le-Haudouin and Crépy, son and heir of Thibaut II, seigneur of Nanteuil-le-Haudouin and Crépy, by his 1st wife, Mathilde. They had three sons, Philippe [seigneur of Nanteuil-le-Haudouin], Guy [seigneur of Bouillancy], and Gautier (or Gaucher). THIBAUT III DE NANTEUIL died 20 Jan. 1183. His widow, Clémente, was living in 1185.
  
  Child of Renaud II de Clermont, by Clémence of Bar:
  i. RAOUL (I) le Roux, Count of Clermont, Constable of France, Châtelain de Creil, and, in right of his wife, of seigneur of Breteuil-en-Beauvaisis. He married before 1162 (date of charter) ALIX (or AELIS) DE BRETEUIL, daughter and co-heiress of Waleran (or Valeran) III, seigneur of Breteuil-en-Beauvaisis, by his 1st wife Holdeburge (or Hildeburge), lady of Ailly sur Noie and Tartigny, and daughter of ___, by his wife, Béatrice. They had one son, Raoul, and three daughters, Catherine (or Katherine), Mathilde (or Mahout) (wife of Guillaume I, seigneur of Vierzon), and Alice. In 1175 he joined Count Baudouin V in his expedition against Jacques d'Avesnes. RAOUL, Count of Clermont, was killed in battle at Acre 15 October 1191. His widow, Alice, Countess of Clermont, lady of Breteuil, was living in 1195. At her death, she was buried in the church of the Priory of Variville. Peigné-Delacourt Cartulaire de l’Abbaye de Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp (1865): 157 (charter of Raoul, Count of Clermont dated 1178; charter granted with consent of his wife, Alix [Adelidis], and his daughters, Katherine and Alix [Adelidis]; charter witnessed by his brother, Simon, and his nephew/kinsman [nepotis], Pierre of Amiens), 158 (charter of Raoul, Count of Clermont dated 1162; charter mentions his wife, Alix [Adelidis], and his sister, Mathilde; his brothers, Simon and Etienne, give their consent), 161-162 (charter of Raoul, Count of Clermont dated 1177).
  Child of Raoul I de Clermont, by Alix de Breteuil:
  a. CATHERINE (or KATHERINE) DE CLERMONT, married LOUIS, Count of Blois and Clermont, seigneur of Breteuil [see WYDEVILLE 4.i].
  ii. SIMON I DE CLERMONT (or D'AILLY), Chev. [see next].
  iii. MAHAUT (or MATHILDE) OF CLERMONT, married AUBREY II DE DAMMARTIN, Count of Dammartin [see DAMMARTIN 3].”
  
  BIO
  BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#ClemenceM1RenaudClermontM2ThibautCrepy as of 4/5/2016
  CLEMENCE de Bar ([1123/27]]-after 20 Jan 1183). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis records
  
  === "GENEAL MAG" V.15 #2 P.53-63 & V.21 #3 P ===
  "GENEAL MAG" V.15 #2 P.53-63 & V.21 #3 P.187-8
  
  === https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_I,_Count_of_Bar ===
  Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis, Line 144-24.Medieval Lands Project on Renaud (Reginald) de Bar
  
  === == Sources ==* http://archiver.rootsweb. ===
  == Sources ==* http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/1997-02/0855106136
  
  
  === ! Europaasche Stammtafeln neue folge vol ===
  ! Europaasche Stammtafeln neue folge vol 3 tafel 649;
  
  === Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (144:25). ===
  Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (144:25). Per Evans, in "Genealogy Magazine" (15:53-63, 21:94), she continued to go by the title of "Countess of Dammartin" even after her second marriage.
  
  === !SOURCE: ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF SIXTY COLON ===
  !SOURCE: ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF SIXTY COLONISTS, SIXTH ED, PG 125 LINE 144-25
  
  === {{Euro Aristo 742-1499}} ===
  {{Euro Aristo 742-1499}}
  
  ==Biography==
  
  == Sources ==
  * '''Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. V. page 268''''''RENAUD II''', Count of Clermont-en-Beauvaisis. married 1st, '''ADELE DE VERMANDOIS (Crepy'''). Adele, died 28 September, between 1120 and1124. Renaud married (2nd) '''CLEMENCE OF BAR'''. RENAUD II, died sometime before 1162. His widow, Clemence, married (3rd) '''THIBAUT III DE NANTEUIL'''. They had three sons. He died 20 Jan. 1183. His widow, Clemence, was living in 1185.
  
  *http://www.geneajourney.com/clermnt.html
  * Ancestry.com family trees
  
  == Acknowledgements ==This page has been edited according to [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Acknowledgements Style Standards] adopted January 2014. Descriptions ofimported gedcoms for this profile are under the Changes tab.
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.21, 22; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
  
  === !Chart #307 ROYAL ANCESTORS by Michel Ca ===
  !Chart #307 ROYAL ANCESTORS by Michel Call
  
  === !DEATH: Date: After 1183 (living then) - ===
  !DEATH: Date: After 1183 (living then) - Doc. Line 144-25 !MARRIAGE: (1) Clemence of Bar-le-Duc and Lancelin I, Count - Doc. Line 144-25 (2) Clemence of Bar-le-Duc and Renaud II de Creil, Count Doc. Line 144-25 Date: By 1153 - Doc. Line 144-25 (3) Clemence of Bar-le-Duc and Thiboau II, Seigneur Doc. Line 144-25
  
  === GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Clémence ===
  
  GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Clémence
  
  ID: Merged with a record that used the ID 52024
  
  BIRTH: Also shown as Born 1112
  
  === ANCESTRAL ROOTS, by F. L. Weis, 7th Ed., ===
  ANCESTRAL ROOTS, by F. L. Weis, 7th Ed., Line 144 #25, pg. 127: Clemence of Bar-le-Duc, liv. 1183; m. (1) Lancelin I, Count of Dammartin, n.i. (no issue); m. (2) by 1153, Renaud II (at least 7 ch.), d. c1162, Count of Clermont in Beauvaisis, son of Hugh de Creil, d. 1101, Count of Clermont in Beauvaisis, by his wife, Margaret de Roucy (246-23); m. (3) Thibaut III, Seigneur of Nanteuil- le-Handouin & de Crepy, i (issue). (Michel Parisse, NOBLESSE ET CHEVALERIE EN LORRAINE MEDIEVAL, chart p. 354 (1982)).

• m. in France

1. Matilda Clermont, b. ABT 1140 in Clermont, Beauvois, Oise, France     d. AFT MAY 1218 in France
2. Jeanne de Clearmont, b. 1123 in Clermont, Oise, Picardie, France     d. 1173 in Carrington, Cheshire, England

1. Title: Clemence (Bar-le-Duc) de Nanteuil on WikiTree
   Author: WikiTree contributors, "Clemence (Bar-le-Duc) de Nanteuil", WikiTree, http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bar-le-Duc-4 (accessed 25 May 2022)
   Publication: Name: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bar-le-Duc-4;
   
2. Title: Royal Ancestry
   Author: Douglas Richardson:
   Note: Luçay Comté de Clermont en Beauvaisis (1878): 11-17. Muller Prieuré de Saint-Leu d'Esserent: Cartulaire 1 (Pubs. Soc. Hist. du Vexin) (1900): 45 (charter of Renaud, Count of Clermont [R(enaldus) Claromontensis comes]), 45-47, 195, 197 (Dammartin ped.). Depoin Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de Saint-Martin de Pontoise 3 (1904): 302-305. Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) XII/346-353, XIII/98-104 (do). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): XI.17, XII.29, XII.317, XIII.224, XIII.510-XIII.516, XIV.328-XIV.330. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3(4) (1989): 653 (sub Clermont); 6 (1978): 147 (ancestry of Clementia of Bar). Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 256-259. Child of Renaud II de Clermont, by Clémence of Bar: Carlier Histoire du Duché de Valois 1 (1764): 346-352,394-398. Teulet Layettes du Trésor des Chartes 2 (1866): 282 (Mahaut de Dammartin, Countess of Boulogne, styled "kinswoman" [consanguinea] by Philippe de Nanteuil, Knt. in 1235 [editor states it is Nanteuil-le-Haudoin, Oise, arr. de Senlis in Valois"). Revue Historique Nobiliaire et Biographique 3rd Ser. 1 (1876): 275-281. Delisle Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 14 (1877): 7 (Genealogia Regum Francorum Tertiae Stirpis: "Secundam filiam prxfati Comitis Helduini de Rameruth, dictum Margaretam, duxit Hugo Comes de Claromonte, de qua nati sunt Guido dictus Qui-non-dormit, et Hugo Paper, et Comes Rainaldus, et sorores eorum. Rainaldus duxit Adelidem Comitissam Viromandensium, defuncto priore viro suo, scilicet Hugone Magno, (lux peperit ei filiam Margaretam, quam duxit Comes Karolus Flandriæ; quo mortuo, tradita est Comiti Sancti-Pauli Hugoni, qui dictus est Campus-avenæ. Prædictus Rainaldus, defuncta Adelide, duxit Comitissam de Dammartin, filiam Comitis de Rainaldi de Monzuns, de qua genuit Guidonem, et Rainaldum, et Hugonem archidiaconum Metensem, et Galterum, cum aliis utriusque sexus. Unda sororum Comitis Rainaldi nupsit in Anglia Comiti Hugoni de Cestre; alteram duxit Gislebertus Ethos Richardi Anglici; tertiam copulavit sibi Matthæus Comes de Bellomonte, de qua genuit alterum Matthæum Comitern, et fratrem ejus, et filias."). Lépinois Recherches historiques et critiques sur l’ancient Comté et les Comtes de Clermont en Beauvoisis (Mémoires de la Société Academique d'Archeologie, Sciences & Arts du Département de l'Oise 10) (1877): 21, footnote 1 ["D. Brial, s'étayant sur ces mots de la Généalogie des rois de la troisieme race: Rainaldus defuncta Adelide, duxit comitissarn da Dammartin (Hist. de France, XIV, 7), pense que Clémence était veuve du comte de Dammatin lors de son manage avec Renaud de Clermont. L'Art de vérifier les dates, le P. Anselme (Hist. geneal., II, 268), A. Duchesne (Hist. de la maison de Bar), disent au contraire que Clemence ne devint comtesse de Dammatin qu'après la mort de Renaud. L'opinion de D. Brial est confirmée par une charte sans date, mais parfaitement authentique, par laquelle Clémence, comtesse de Dammartin, et Guy, son fils, approuvaient la donation d'un bois faite a l'abbaye de Chaalis par Gautier de Alneto, leur sénéchal, en presence de Renaud, seigneur de Clermont (arch. de l'Oise: Fonds de Chaalis, charmant petite charte avec sceau de la comtesse, assez frustre, rnais sur lequel on lit distinctement Artini corn. Guy de Dammattin, fils de Clémence et de Lancelin, comte de Dammartin, n'est pas mentionné dans l'Art de vérifier les dates. Il est probable qu'il mourut jeune, car on ne connait aucun acte de lui comme comte de Dammartin."]. Revue Historique Nobiliaire et Biographique 3rd Ser. 1 (1876): 282-294. Lépinois Recherches historiques et critiques sur l’ancient Comté et les Comtes de Clermont en Beauvoisis (Mémoires de la Société Academique d'Archeologie, Sciences & Arts du Département de l'Oise 10) (1877). Lucay Comte de Clermont en Beauvaisir (1878): 18-30. Memoires de la Société Académique d' Archéologie, Sciences et Arts du Département de Oise 10(3) (1879): 677 (agreement dated 1174 between Lannoy Abbey and Raoul, Count of Clermont), 678. Mémoires de la Société de l'Histoire de Paris et de l’Ile de France 10 (1884): 191-242. Toulgoët-Treanna Histoire de Vierzon (1884): 105-109. Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 23 (1894): 421 (Ex Obituario Gemmeticensi: "4 Oct. [Obiit] Radulfus, comes Clari Montis."). Muller Prieuré de Saint-Leu d'Esserent: Cartulaire 1st Pt. (1900): 82 (Renaud de Haute-Pierre, Prior of Saint-Leu, styled "kinsman" [consanguineum] by Raoul, Count of Clermont in charter dated 1176). Vernier Chartes de l'Abbaye de Jumièges 2 (1916): 3-5 (charter of Raoul, Count of Clermont, dated 1170; charter witnessed by his brother, Simon). Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3(4) (1989): 653 (sub Clermont). Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 490 (Breteuil ped.).
   
3. Title: Bar family (Comtes de Bar) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#RenaudBardied1149A [See document in the Memories section]
   Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#RenaudBardied1149A;
   Note: Bar family (Comtes de Bar) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#RenaudBardied1149A [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Bar family (Comtes de Bar) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#RenaudBardied1149A [See document in the Memories section]
   
4. Title: Renaud de Clermont "Foundation for Medieval Genealogy" ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#_Toc40250996 [See document in the Memories section]
   Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#_Toc40250996;
   Note: RENAUD [III] de Clermont, son of HUGUES [II] de Creil & his wife Marguerite de Ramerupt (-[1152/53]). ... m firstly (1103) ADELAIS Ctss de Vermandois, de Valois et de Crépy, widow of HUGUES de France Comte de Vermandois, daughter and heiress of HERIBERT [VI] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Adelais de Valois ([1065]-28 Sep [1120/24]). The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Odonem et Adelam sororem" as the two children of "comes Herbertus", specifying that the husband of Adela was "Hugoni le Magne" and referring to her second husband "comes de Claromonte", specifying that her daughter by the latter married Charles Count of Flanders[73]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem comitissam Viromandensium, defuncto priore viro, scilicet Hugone Magno" as wife of "comes Rainaldus [de Claromonte]"[74]. m secondly ([1135]) [as her second husband,] CLEMENCE de Bar, [widow of --- Comte de Dammartin,] daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his wife Gisèle de Vaudémont ([1123/27]-after 20 Jan 1182).
   Page: Clermont family (Comtes de Clermont) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#_Toc40250996 [See document in the Memories section]
   
5. Title: Dammartin family in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#AgnesDammartinMGuillaumeFiennes [See document in the Memories section]
   Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#AgnesDammartinMGuillaumeFiennes;
   Note: Dammartin family in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#AgnesDammartinMGuillaumeFiennes [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Dammartin family in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#AgnesDammartinMGuillaumeFiennes [See document in the Memories section]
   
6. Title: Renaud III de Clermont and Adelais de Vermandois in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#Renauddiedbefore1162 [See document in the Memories section]
   Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/142968885;
   Note: Renaud III de Clermont and Adelais de Vermandois in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#Renauddiedbefore1162 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Renaud III de Clermont and Adelais de Vermandois in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#Renauddiedbefore1162 [See document in the Memories section]