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Robert de Ros
- Preferred Name: Robert de Ros[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Gender: M
- Death: ABT 1162 in Yorkshire, England
- FSID: LBXS-JJW
- Birth: ABT 1124 in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.2467 LONG: E1.0558
- Burial: in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.2467 LONG: E1.0558
- Alt.+Birth+Information: 1124 in Holderness, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.83 LONG: E0.42 with note: Description: 1124 Holderness, Yorkshire, England
Survived the merge.
- MilitaryService: Participated in the full scale landing at Bannow Bay1169 in Wexford, County Wexford, Ireland at LATI: N2.3333 LONG: E6.45
- Was+awarded+a+large+estate+for+his+part+in+the+landing+invasion: May 1st, 1169 in Wexford, County Wexford, Ireland at LATI: N2.3333 LONG: E6.45 with note: Description: South Wexford area
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: 2nd Baron of Helmsley Castle
- Notes:
=== Weis. 89-27. ===
Weis. 89-27.
=== {{British Isles 742-1499}} ===
{{British Isles 742-1499}}
== Biography ==Confirmed to Rievaulx the gift of his uncle Walter Espec in 1147-53, for the souls of his father and his brother, Everard. He was sometimes constable, probably to the Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness. He attested a charter of Count William about 1150, as well as Henry II's charter to Scarborough, where for several years, he was in charge of works at the King's castle.
In 1157, he paid 1,000 marks of silver to the king for livery of the lands inherited by his mother from her brother, Walter Espec. He was amunificent benefactor to the Knights Templar. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 458, Ros, or Roos, Barons Ros]
Sometimes constable, probably to the Count of Aumale, Lord of Holderness. In 1158, and for several years thereafter, he was in charge of King Henry II's works at the castle of Scarborough.
== Sources ==
* Ancestry family trees* Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages,Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 458, Ros, or Roos, Barons Ros)* Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs Families of the Pacific Northwest, by Jim Weber, rootsweb.com
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=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.28, 31; NEW HISTORY OF NORTHUMBERLAND, VOL 11 P.37; WURT'S MAGNA CHARTA (GS NUMBER 944 D22W) P.121, 122, 123; YORKSHIRE ARCHEALOGICAL JOURNAL, VOL 24 P.239; RIEVAULX CHART, P.21, 360;
=== Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna ===
Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 5th Ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, [1999], 116-1, p. 152.
=== !#21> Complete Peerage-v11-p41*, (FHL 94 ===
!#21> Complete Peerage-v11-p41*, (FHL 942 D22cok);
=== !Beds 6 VolII p 137f: Coheir of Everard ===
!Beds 6 VolII p 137f: Coheir of Everard 1158
=== robert de Ros, 2nd lord of hamlake ===
Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord of Hamlake
Birth circa 1117 Pembrokeshire, Wales or Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Death: Died 1162 in Helmsley, North Riding, Yorkshire, England
Immediate Family:
Son of Piers (Peter) de Ros, Steward of Holderness and Adeline d'Espec
Husband of Sybilla de Valoignes, Heiress of Petherton
Father of Everard de Ros Baron of Helmsley; David Fitz Robert; Joan de Ros and Henry FITZROBERT
Brother of Everard de Ros
About Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord of Hamlake/Helmsley
"His father Peter, the ancestor of this great and noble family," says Dugdale, "did originally assume his surname in the time of Henry I from that lordship in Holderness called Ros, where he then had his residence, needeth not to be doubted." This Peter de Ros, or Roos, a feudal baron, m. Adeline, one of the sisters and co-heirs of the famous Walter Espec, Lord of the manor of Helmesley, called sometimes Helmeslac, but oftener Hamlake, in the north riding of Yorkshire, and was s. at his decease by his son, Robert de Ros. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 458, Ros, or Roos, Barons Ros]
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=== Ties Into Royal British Lines -Qualifica ===
Ties Into Royal British Lines -Qualification for -Dames of the Guild of St. Margaret of Scotland-Papers on file with them.
Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists by Frederick Lewis Weis
National Huguenot Society #5 (Issue 1975) Page 323
National Genelogical Society Quarterly #4 (Issue June 1964) Page 87
Stillwells Miscellaney Volume 4 Page 351 and 326 History of Western New York Page 1107
Family History Record of the Throckmortons in the USA Page 57 with Huguenot Branches by Frances Grimes Sitherwood
A History of Monmouth & Ocean Counties by Edwin Salter
copies in file with Christine Marie (Ray) Conte'Montreal, Quebec, Canada
=== ! from Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonist ===
! from Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists ! from Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists ! from Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists
=== 2nd Lord Hamlake Manor, who was a munif ===
2nd Lord Hamlake Manor, who was a munificent benefactor o f the Knight Templars. In the 3rd of Henry II he paid 1,00 0 marks of silver to the king for livery of his lands inher ited by his mother from Walter Espec.
=== New Hist of Northu, Northu 6, 11:37; Mag ===
New Hist of Northu, Northu 6, 11:37; Magna Charta p. 121-123; Yorks Archa Journal, Yorks Pub A 24:329 Rievaulx Chart p. 21, 360. Archive Record - SLC, UT
=== !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Editio ===
!Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition L 170-25
=== In the 3rd Henry II [1157], Robert de Ro ===
In the 3rd Henry II [1157], Robert de Ros paid 1,000 marks of silver to the king for livery of the lands inherited by his mother from her brother, Walter Espec. This Robert was a munificent benefactor to the Knights Templars. He m. Sybell de Valoines (who, after his decease, m. Ralph de Albini) and dying sometime about the middle of the 12th century, was s. by his son, Everard de Ros, a minor. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 458, Ros, or Roos, Barons Ros]
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ROBERT DE ROS, brother and heir, confirmed (1147-53) to Rievaulx the gift of his uncle Walter Espec, for the souls of his said uncle his father and brother Everard. He was sometime constable, probably to the Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness. As Robert de Ros he attested a charter of Count William about 1150, and Henry II's charter to Scarborough, where, for several years from 1158, he was in charge of works at the King's castlc. He married Sibyl DE VALOGNES, and died in 1162 or 1163. His widow married, 2ndly, circa 1166, William DE PERCY, who died probably in 1174 or 1175; and 3rdly, in 1181 or 1182, Ralph D'AUBIGNY (brother of William D'AUBIGNY of Belvoir), who died before Michaelmas 1192. She was living in 1212, possibly in 1218, and was buried at Nun Appleton Priory. [Complete Peerage, XI:91]
About 1157, paid 1,000 marks of silver to the King [Henry II] for livery of the lands inherited by his mother from her brother Walter Espec. A munificent benefactor to the Knights Templars.
=== Magna Carta Sureties ===
Magna Carta Sureties
=== Robert, 2nd Lord Hamlake Manor, who was ===
Robert, 2nd Lord Hamlake Manor, who was a munificent benefactor of the Knight Templars. In the 3rd of Henry II he paid 1000 marks of silver to the king for livery of his lands inherited by his mother from Walter Espec. After his death, his widow married Ralph de Alvini.
=== Baker: History of the County of Northumb ===
Baker: History of the County of Northumberland Vol 1 P. 269 M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P. 31
=== !Sir Bernard Burke's Dormant & Extinct P ===
!Sir Bernard Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage page 458,160;
=== !SOURCES: Royal Ancestors of Magna Cart ===
!SOURCES: Royal Ancestors of Magna Carta Barons; by Collins, pgs. 215 & 216 Cokayne; Vol. 11 pg. 90 Magna Charta; pgs. 121, 1832 & 2159 NOTES: 2nd Baron of Hamlake Manor Was the 1st Husband of Sibyl VALGNES
Preferred Parents:
Father: Piers de Ros, b. 1080 in Yorkshire, England d. BEF 1130 in Holderness, Yorkshire, England
Mother: Adeline d'Espec, b. ABT 1094 in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England d. BEF 1153 in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Family 1: Sybil de Valognes, b. ABT 1128 in Suffolk, England d. ABT 1218 in Appleton Roebuck, Yorkshire, England
- m. 1144 in York, Yorkshire, England
- m. 1151 in York, Yorkshire, England
- Joan de Ros, b. ABT 1150 in Cleveland, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom d. in Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
- Everard de Ros, b. ABT 1148 in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England d. BEF SEP 1183 in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Sources:
- Title: de Ros of Helmsley in The Complete Peerage
Author: Cokayne, G. E. (1949). Geoffrey H. White (ed.). The Complete Peerage, or a history of the House of Lords and all its members from the earliest times (Rickerton to Sisonby). Vol. 11 (2nd ed.). London: The St Catherine Press.
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/362755-the-complete-peerage-of-england-scotland-ireland-great-britain-and-the-united-kingdom-extant-extinct-or-dormant-vol-11?offset=15;
Page: pp 90 to 105
- Title: Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p375.htm#i11263;
Note: Father Peter de Ros d. 1157
Mother Adeline Espec d. b 1130
Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord Hamlake was born at of Helmsley or Hamlake, Yorkshire, England. He married Sibyl de Valoines, daughter of Thebaud de Valoines; Her 1st marriage. Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord Hamlake died between 1162 and 1163.
Family
Sibyl de Valoines d. bt 1212 - 1218
Child
Everard de Roos, Baron of Helmsley d. 1183
- Title: Robert de Ros in The Complete Peerage
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/362755/?offset=15#page=98&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=;
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Author: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm#RobertRosdied1162;
- Title: The Peerage
Author: The Peerage
Publication: Name: https://www.thepeerage.com/p36886.htm#i368855;
Note: Robert de Ros was the son of Piers de Ros and Adeline Espec.1 He married Sibyl de Valognes. He died between 1212 and 1218.
He was Constable to the Count d'Aumale from 1153 to 1162/63.
Child of Robert de Ros and Sibyl de Valognes
Everard de Ros b. b 1138, d. b 1183
- Title: Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition
Author: Mosley, Charles, editor. Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes. Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003 volume 1, page 1107.
Publication: Name: https://thepeerage.com/p36886.htm#i368855;
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