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William de Hastings
- Preferred Name: William de Hastings[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Gender: M
- FSID: LZNJ-1K6
- Death: 28 JAN 1226 in Ashill, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.6015 LONG: E0.7846
- Birth: 1163 in Fillongley, Warwickshire, England at LATI: N2.482 LONG: E1.588
- Burial: in St Edmund's Church, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.2407 LONG: E0.7131
- MilitaryService: taken prisoner at the Battle of Lincoln against Henry III of England1217
- MilitaryService: supported William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle at the siege of Bytham1221
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
William de Hastings (died 1225), was an English soldier and noble.
He was the second son of William Hastings and Maud Banastre. William was part of the baronial opposition during the First Barons' War, against King John of England. His lands were forfeited in 1216 and he was taken prisoner at the Battle of Lincoln in 1217 against Henry III of England. William supported William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle at the siege of Bytham in 1221.
William married Margery, daughter of Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Ida de Tosny, they are known to have had the following known issue:
. Henry de Hastings (died 1250), married Ada of Huntingdon, had issue.
. Maud de Hastings, married Gilbert de Pecche.
. Ida de Hastings, married firstly Stephen de Segrave and secondly Hugh Pecche.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Hastings
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WILLIAM [III] de Hastings (-[Jan 1226]).
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m MARGERY Bigod, daughter of ROGER Bigod Earl of Norfolk & his wife Ida ---.
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William [III] & his wife had two children:
a) HENRY de Hastings (-before 9 Aug 1250). King Henry III granted rights relating to "priori et sacriste Sancti Edmundi" to “Henrico de Hasting senescallo domus sue” as previously held by “Willelmus pater suus”, dated 1229[770].
b) IDA de Hastings (-before 2 Mar 1289, bur London, Church of the Grey Friars). The primary sources which confirm her parentage and two marriages have not been identified. m firstly as his second wife, STEPHEN de Segrave, son of GILBERT de Segrave & his wife --- (-Leicester Abbey 1241). m secondly HUGH Pecche, son of HAMO Pecche & his wife Eva ---.
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3D-K.htm#WilliamHastingsdied1182A
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BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#HenryHastingsdied1250A as of 8/12/2016
WILLIAM de Hastings (-[Jan 1226]). "Henricus de Hastinges filius Willelmi de Hast
Memorial
HUGH Bigod, son of ROGER Bigod of Earsham, Suffolk & his [second] wife Adelise de Tosny ([1095]-1177 before 9 Mar). “Willielmus Bigot, dapifer regis Anglorum” donated property to Thetford Priory, for
=== !Name,parents,Bd,pla,Bap,End,SP-IGI,adde ===
!Name,parents,Bd,pla,Bap,End,SP-IGI,addendum Bd also listed as <1175,1167
=== Ancestral File Number: FBF8-SP ===
Ancestral File Number: FBF8-SP
=== !CHILDREN: Of William de Hastings and Ma ===
!CHILDREN: Of William de Hastings and Margaret Bigod Henry - Doc. Line 93-27
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.22, 39; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
=== Took part with the barons against King J ===
Took part with the barons against King John in 1215 and in 1216 his lands were forfeited. He was one of William of Aumale's supporters at Biham in 1221.
=== Ancestral File Number: 9QF6-76 ===
Ancestral File Number: 9QF6-76
=== {{British Isles 742-1499}} ===
{{British Isles 742-1499}}
==Biography==
'''Birth''' His elder brother Henry was declared by the Abbot of Bury to be not of age as a knight (21) in 1182, so Henry must have been born after 1170, and presumably William after 1171.[Jocelin of Brakelond [https://books.google.be/books?id=I068G8fHEjYC&pg=P106 reported] the events in Bury.]
Eyton, in his ''Antiquities of Shropshire'', follows Dugdale's much earlier ''Baronage'' in his summary of the small amount of evidence we have for the life of this William.:"William de Hastings (III) attended the Parliament of Lincoln in November 1200, when William, King of Scots, did homage to King John. In the same year a Feodary of St. Edmundsbury gives William de Hastinges asholding 5 knights’-fees under the Abbey, viz. 3 in Lidgate, Blunham, and Herlinge, and 2 in Tibenham and Grissing. I refer elsewhere for some further particulars concerning this William de Hastings, to whichI might add many more, but in so doing should be in danger of saying that of him which may refer to a contemporary of the same name, and who had estates in some of the same Counties. It was clearly William de Hastings, the Steward, who was in rebellion against King John in 1216 ; for a Writ of April 10 orders the Constable of Norwich to destroy his Castles and lay waste his lands, whilst a second writ of April 22nd gives up to his Suzerain, the Abbot of St. Edmund’s, all lands whichhe held in the Abbot’s Fee. Another Writ of King John, dated at Clun, August 3, 1216, grants away William de Hastings’ lands in Warwickshire and Leicestershire."[Antiquities of Shropshire, Volume 5, p.139, available online at [https://books.google.be/books?pg=PA139 google books], [http://hdl.handle.net/2027/yale.39002013354866?urlappend=%3Bseq=161 hathitrust], and other places.]
Clark summarizes a few more facts:[:when Abbot Samson fell into controversy with his knights, and called upon them to acknowledge the services attached to their fees, the Earlof Norfolk was the first, and the Earl of Oxford and William de Hastings the last to do so. [Brakelond, 135]. In 1200 he sat in the court at Lincoln, before which William of Scotland did homage. [Dugd. Bar. I.574.] 13 Nov., 1203, William de Warenne is to give him quittance for 100/. sterling, a debt due to the Jews, from whom Warenne is to obtainthe papers, and the King Is to be told the balance of the debt. John was then at Bonneville, but on his return William was to pay a fine, and meantime his lands, mortgaged to the Jews, were to be restored to him. [Liberate Roll, 73.] In 1204 his name occurs in Northamptonshire. Also Abram, son of Anege the Jew, has letters upon him in Suffolk for 20L. In 1205 he was bail for Henry, son of the Earl of Cornwall, to the extent of 20 marks. [R. de Oblat. 215-63-77-8.] 7 John, 1205, Warenne is again called in to replace him in the lands of Blunham, Hassel, and Horstel, now pledged to the Jews for debt, he giving security to the King.]
===A contemporary with the same name===Many writers, including Eyton, confuse William with another man of thesame name whose lands were in Berkshire, Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire. This William died at a similar time, as can be seen in the Fine Rolls, but until at least 1212 a John de Hastings held that lordship. [For this other family see 'Parishes: Eaton Hastings', in A Historyof the County of Berkshire: Volume 4, ed. William Page and P H Ditchfield (London, 1924), pp. 528-531. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/berks/vol4/pp528-531 [accessed 15 May 2016].]
==The wife of William== Douglas Richardson has summarised the evidence, which basically comes from one very old secondary source, William Dugdale, whose source was apparently the collection of Robert Glover Somerset Herald (now hard to trace)::"Margaret le Bigod, is alleged by Dugdale to have had the manor of Little Bradley, Suffolk in marriage, which might well be true. However,I don't find any of the later male members of the Hastings family dealing with this manor, so the manor was probably passed in marriage to one of the later Hastings women in this time period." [https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/3oWGE4p1lHs]
William Dugdale, in his original Baronage, page 574, names William's wife as Margerie, daughter of Roger de Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, and saysthe land at Little Bradley which came with this marriage was to be enjoyed after the death Gundred, Roger's step mother.[[https://books.google.be/books?pg=PA140 Eyton] (Shropshire Vol V) points out that Dugdale attaches this marriage to the wrong William, at least according to all modern genealogies, but that he could be interpreted as gettingit right under the Bigod's on page 133 of Baronage.] Gundred would have been the daughter of Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick.
Encouragingly however, Little Bradley does seem to appear in the Inquisition Post Mortem of William's great grandson, the first Lord John deHastings.[https://archive.org/stream/calendarofinquis62grea#page/n35/mode/2up]
Richardson also found evidence that the Bigod family had at least heldGreat Bradley (E 40/3775. Grant by William Bygod, lord of Great Bradley near St. Edmund's). Also, for Bradley generally, Katharine Keats-Rohan has written that: :"Adeliza Bigod was addressed in writs of Henry I and Stephen concerning tithes at Bradley, Suffolk: Regesta Regum Anglo-Normannorum, II, nos 1485, 1495; III, no. 82."[Prosopon, No. 10 (1999), pg. 3]
An earlier source sometimes given for this marriage is Milles The Catalogue of Honour (1610) p.503. But Milles was nephew of Robert Glover and so he apparently used the same sources as Dugdale.
Clark somehow found a death date for her, 31 March 1237. Perhaps his source was Milles, who is one of the sources he mentions in that passage.[Clark, G. T. C. (1869), "The Rise and Race of Hastings" (in 3 parts), Archaeological Journal, Vol. 26. https://archive.org/stream/archaeologicalj02unkngoog#page/n302/mode/2up/] (Clark is apparently wrong to equate her to a widow in a place called Thorpe though. That would be the widow of Gilbert de Hastings in Thorpe Morieux.)
Neither Eyton, nor Clark are able to explain why there was a Mathilda de Hastings in 1235-6, holding half a knight's fee in the honour of Earl Ferrars in Warwickshire and Leicestershire. But as Eyton remarks, she appears to be a widow.
===Not the widow of William Cumin===To complicate things, Dugdale in his Warwickshire, seems to have had evidence from the 18th year of King John (1216) that a Margerie who married a William de Hastings was actually a widow to a William de Cumin,in Warwickshire.[Dugdale, Baronage, under [http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A36791.0001.001/1:18.34?rgn=div2;view=fulltext Hastings]] J. H. Round confirms the record exists.[https://archive.org/stream/ancestorquarterl09lond#page/146/mode/2up/search/hastings] But there are problems to make this Margerie the mother of William's son and heir, Henry, who was already 21 by 1226. And Round furthermore showed how this Margerie's heir was another William Cumin, nota Hastings. He and his heirs were claimants to a share of the inheritance of the Giffard family of Font Hill.
==The father of William==There is no surviving primary record which names the father of William. He and his brother Henry's last known successor as dapifer in Bury was William de Hastings who must have died between 1168-1181.
William Dugdale in the 17th century apparently saw a charter which confirmed many connections, but it also does not seem to have involved the connection between this William and his father.
==The mother of William==
There is clear primary record evidence that William's mother was Maud Banestre. In 1222 he inherited Shropshire lands from her, apparently his only Shropshire lands, and only a few years before he died and his own heir Henry inherited from him, including lands in Shropshire. Henry de Hastings can be shown to have held the Banastre inheritance, for example in the Book of Fees.
Fine Rolls of Henry III, 6/194 dated 17 June 1222, Westminster: :"To the sheriff of Shropshire . William of Hastings has made fine with the king by 10 m. for his relief of two hides of land with appurtenances in Aston, which Matilda Banaster, mother of the aforesaid William, held of the king in chief and which fall to William by inheritance, and the king has taken his homage for this. Order that, having accepted security from him for rendering a moiety of the aforesaid fine to the king at Michaelmas in the sixth year and the other moiety at Easter next following in the seventh year, he is to cause him to have full seisin without delay. Witness H. etc. By the same and the king’s council."[http://www.finerollshenry3.org.uk/content/calendar/roll_016.html#it194_005]
Fine Rolls 10/83 (28 January 1226):28 Jan. Marlborough. "For Henry of Hastings. To the sheriff of '''Warwickshire and Leicestershire'''. Henry of Hastings has made fine with the king by 50 m. for having seisin of all the land that '''William ofHastings, his father, whose heir he is,''' held of the king in chief,and that falls to Henry by hereditary right , and the king has taken his homage. Order that, having accepted security from Henry for rendering the aforesaid 50 m. to the king for his relief at these terms, namely 12½ m. at Easter in the tenth year, 12½ m. at Michaelmas, 12½ m. at Easter in the eleventh year, and 12½ m. at Michaelmas in the same year, he is to cause him to have full seisin without delay of all the land that the aforesaid William, his father, held of the king in chief in his bailiwick which were taken into the king’s hand by his order. He is, moreover, to cause the executors of the testament of the same William to have the chattels found in the same lands formerly of the same William, saving
=== Weis. 93-27. ===
Weis. 93-27.
=== AF:9QF6-76.
FATHER: WILLIAM HASTINGS AF: ===
AF:9QF6-76.
FATHER: WILLIAM HASTINGS AF:9QF6-4N.
GF: HUGH HASTINGS AF:9QF6-8C. GM: ERNEBURGH DE FLAMVILLE AF:9QF6-9J
MOTHER: MAUD BANASTER. AF:9QF8-PV.
GF: THURSTAN BANASTER. AF:9QF6-M8.
Preferred Parents:
Father: William de Hastings, b. 1134 in Fillongley, Warwick, England d. 1195 in Fillongley, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Mother: Maud Banastre, b. 1134 in Shropshire, England d. 1222 in Fillongley, Warwickshire, England
Family 1: Margaret Bigod, b. 1182 in Norfolk, England d. ABT 31 MAR 1237 in Norfolk, England
- Henry de Hastings, b. ABT 1193 in Salisbury St Edmund, Wiltshire, England d. BEF 9 AUG 1250 in Salisbury St Edmund, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom
Family 2: Lady Margaret Baroness Bassett Le Bigod, b. 1160 in Thetford, Norfolk, England d. 31 MAR 1227
Sources:
- Title: Margaret le Bigod, Wife of William de Hastings, Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Hastings;
- Title: William de Hastings, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2DJ-CDKQ : 23 November 2022), William de Hastings, ; Burial, Bury St Edmunds, St Edmundsbury Borough, Suffolk, England, Bury St Edmunds Abbey; citing record ID 172547797, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2DJ-CDKQ;
- Title: William de Hastings, Son of William de Hastings and Maud Banastre, Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Hastings;
- Title: William de Hastings, Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Hastings;
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Author: Ancestry Family Tree
- Title: North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000
Author: Book Title: The Tracy Family / The Winslow Family
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/61157/records/392423;
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