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Sir Ralph I De Chesney, Comte De Quesnay
- Preferred Name: Sir Ralph I De Chesney, Comte De Quesnay[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
- Alternate Name: Ralph de Cheney
- Alternate Name: Radulphus de Chené Caisneto
- Gender: M
- Occupation: Chevalier
- Life Sketch: with note: Description: sir, Ralph I Chesney (Cayento - Kaineto)
s/o sir Walter IV Chesney & Miss Caen
b - 1044 - Le Quesney in Seine-infurieure, Normandy
m- Matilda (Maud) Waterville
d- soon after 1086 - Rudham, Norfolk, England
1066 - Battle of Hastings
1086 - Domesday - under-teneant of William I Warenne - in sussex & Norfolk
Held - Glatting in Burton & Aldrington & Fulking & Keymer & Brighton-Lewes, & Hamsey & Graftham & Madehurst, & Aldrington & Graftham, Sussex
RALPH [I] de Chesney . A manuscript which records donations to Lewes priory includes in Sussex land "ad Elintunam" donated by "Radulfus vetus de Chaisneto" for the soul of "Mathildis uxoris eius", land "et molinum de Bardeseia" donated by "Radulfus junior de Chaisneto" for the soul of "Emmæ uxoris eius" and donations of other land by "utroque Radulfo, patre et filio"[2389]. He and his descendants are discussed in an article by J. H. Round[2390]. m MATILDA, daughter of ---. A manuscript which records donations to Lewes priory includes in Sussex land "ad Elintunam" donated by "Radulfus vetus de Chaisneto" for the soul of "Mathildis uxoris eius"[2391]. Ralph [I] & his wife had one child:
a) RALPH [II] de Chesney .
[Source: Medieval Lands.]
- FSID: MFHW-5JK
- Death: ABT 1086 in East Rudham, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.8322 LONG: E0.7093
- Fact: with note: Description: Sir Ralph de Chesney was born circa 1044 in Normandy, France to Walter de Chesney (c1020-) and died circa 1086 in England of unspecified causes. He married Maud de Waterville (-1085). Ancestors are from France. (Normandy)
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Lord of Rudham
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Ralph-de-Chesney-I/6000000002188040974?through=6000000002188040956
- Birth: ABT 1044 in Le Quesney, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandy, France at LATI: N9.2794 LONG: E0.63
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Baron
- Burial: AFT 6 AUG 1086 in Norfolk, England with note: Norfolk, England
- Notes:
Memorial
In a return of William (I) de Ferrers (de Ferrières) (d. 1190), William of Le Quesnay is listed as holding a Ferrers fief originally held by Walter le Bec (was this King's Sutton?).
Colvin provides
=== Fought in the Battle of Hastings.
'This ===
Fought in the Battle of Hastings.
'This family probably originated in Quesnai, Normandy. In England thename was originally spelt de Chesney or de Chasney, being 'latinised'as de Caisneto, and later Cheyney or Cheney. In Scotland the name wascommonly spelt Chen from the early 14th century and Cheyne from about1600. Its progenitor, who came to England at the time of or shortlyafter the Conquest, was Ralf de Caisneto (a 1086).' PeterBarns-Graham, Chairman, Stirnet.com (http://www.stirnet.com),Cheyne01.
From 'An Ancient Scottish Family': 'Many references of the medievalperiod have shown that the family of CHEYNE, and those which havesimilar names, such as Chedney, Chasteney, Chene, Cheney etc., have acommon origin in the medieval Quesneto or Caisneto, a latinised formof Quesnai or Caisnei, a place-name in Normandy. Although there areseveral such places in that country there would appear to be littledoubt that 'the fief of le Quesnay near St. Saens' is probably thetrue one. The village of le Quesnay is some 8 to 10 miles west of St.Saens, and in the early part of the 11th century was part of the landheld by Roger de Mortimer of Duke William. Roger's castle ofMortuomari, some 14 miles to the east, on the Ponthieu border, was thescene of a battle in 1054, and owing to an indiscretion on his part atthat time he forfeited his castle and its associated lands, includingle Quesnay, and they became the property of William de Warenne.'
The 4 hides of Graffham held in 1086 by Ralph (de Chesney) became themanor of WONWORTH
From: 'Graffham', A History of the County of Sussex: Volume 4: TheRape of Chichester (1953), pp. 58-60. URL:http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41697. Dateaccessed: 21 March 2008.
BUDDINGTON in the time of the Confessor had been held of Earl Godwinby Edwin; in 1086 it was held of Earl Roger by Robert (fitz Tetbald)and under him by Ralph (de Chesney), as 1 hide. (fn. 24)
24 V.C.H. Suss. i, 423.
From: 'Easebourne', A History of the County of Sussex: Volume 4: TheRape of Chichester (1953), pp. 47-53. URL:http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41695. Dateaccessed: 21 March 2008.
Fought in the Battle of Hastings.
Peter Barnes-Graham writes: 'This family probably originated inQuesnai, Normandy. In England the name was originally spelt de Chesneyor de Chasney, being 'latinised' as de Caisneto, and later Cheyney orCheney. In Scotland the name was commonly spelt Chen from the early14th century and Cheyne from about 1600. Its progenitor, who came toEngland at the time of or shortly after the Conquest, was Ralf deCaisneto (a 1086).'
From 'An Ancient Scottish Family': 'Many references of the medievalperiod have shown that the family of CHEYNE, and those which havesimilar names, such as Chedney, Chasteney, Chene, Cheney etc., have acommon origin in the medieval Quesneto or Caisneto, a latinised formof Quesnai or Caisnei, a place-name in Normandy. Although there areseveral such places in that country there would appear to be littledoubt that 'the fief of le Quesnay near St. Saens' is probably thetrue one. The village of le Quesnay is some 8 to 10 miles west of St.Saens, and in the early part of the 11th century was part of the landheld by Roger de Mortimer of Duke William. Roger's castle ofMortuomari, some 14 miles to the east, on the Ponthieu border, was thescene of a battle in 1054, and owing to an indiscretion on his part atthat time he forfeited his castle and its associated lands, includingle Quesnay, and they became the property of William de Warenne.'
The 4 hides of Graffham held in 1086 by Ralph (de Chesney) became themanor of WONWORTH
From: 'Graffham', A History of the County of Sussex: Volume 4: TheRape of Chichester (1953), pp. 58-60. URL:http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41697. Dateaccessed: 21 March 2008.
BUDDINGTON in the time of the Confessor had been held of Earl Godwinby Edwin; in 1086 it was held of Earl Roger by Robert (fitz Tetbald)and under him by Ralph (de Chesney), as 1 hide. (fn. 24)
24 V.C.H. Suss. i, 423.
From: 'Easebourne', A History of the County of Sussex: Volume 4: TheRape of Chichester (1953), pp. 47-53. URL:http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41695. Dateaccessed: 21 March 2008.
=== Notes and sources for Ralph... ===
~Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, (Engaine Pedigree Chart), Vol. V, after p. 72, Ralph de Chesney, of Rudham, living in 1086 and the father of Sibyl, Lady of Rudham who married Robert Fitz Walter. 141
bullet Noted events in his life were:
• Background Information. :From Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage: Volume 11: Say :
Round established a century ago that Alice was a daughter and coheir of John de Chesney [Genealogist, new series, vol. 18, p. 9 (1902), citing Dugdale's comments based on the cartulary of Coxford (Baronage, vol. 1, pp. 511, 614)]. John de Chesney was the son of Ralph de Chesney, and the grandson of another Ralph. The cartulary of Merton Priory records that Hugh Maminot gave the manor of Petham (Kent) to Ralph de Chesney in marriage with his daughter Alice [L. F. Salzman, Sussex Arch. Coll., vol. 65, pp. 21, 22 (1924), citing British Library Cotton MS Cleopatra C VI, no 69]. Chronologically, this would be John's father rather than his grandfather. (As Salzman points out, according to a Lewes manuscript, Ralph was predeceased by a wife named Emma - Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum, vol. 5, p. 14 (1817-30 edn) - so it is possible that the Merton cartulary is wrong in calling Hugh Maminot's daughter Alice - Keats-Rohan (Domesday Descendants, p. 369)
Ralph married Maud de Watevile, daughter of William de Watevile and Unknown. (Maud de Watevile died after 1086 in Sussex, England.)
Preferred Parents:
Father: Gautier de Chesney, b. ABT 1024 in Le Quesney, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandy, France d. ABT 1086 in Lincolnshire, England
Mother: Elise de Brionne, b. 1027 in Tillières, Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France d. 1086 in Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England
Family 1: Lady Maud De Waterville Baroness Chesney, b. ABT 1048 in West Hoathly, Sussex, England d. 5 AUG 1085 in Norfolk, England
- m. ABT 1068 in West Hoathly, Sussex, England
- Roger de Chesney, b. ABT 1080 in Deddington, Oxfordshire, England d. BET 25 DEC 1109 AND 1142 in Deddington, Oxfordshire, England
- Walter Chesney, b. ABT 1085 in Horsford, Norfolk, England d. ABT 1154 in Stanley, Gloucestershire, England
- Sybil de Chesney, b. 1093 in Horsford, Norfolk, England d. 1115 in Herefordshire, England
- Ralph de Chesney, b. 1069 in La Quesnay, Seine Inferieure, Normandy, France d. 8 JAN 1147 in England
- Juliana de Chesney, b. um 1069 in Broughton Poggs, Oxfordshire, England d. 1131 in Broughton Poggs, Oxfordshire, England
- Kahannes de Keynes Lord, b. 1065 in Barton, Northamptonshire, England d. 1131 in Barton, Northamptonshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in Burke's A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 118 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Burke's A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 118
Note: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in Burke's A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 118 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in Burke's A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 118 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Ralph I and II de Chesney (Cheney) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntac.htm#_Toc21079008
Note: Ralph I and II de Chesney (Cheney) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Ralph I and II de Chesney (Cheney) in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Geneanet
- Title: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in The Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 1, pg. 257-259 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: The Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 1, pg. 257-259
Note: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in The Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 1, pg. 257-259 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in The Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 1, pg. 257-259 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: The Geneaologist "The Family of Chesney"
- Title: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 112 [See document in the Memoires section]
Author: Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 112
Note: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 112 [See document in the Memoires section]
Page: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney) in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 112 [See document in the Memoires section]
- Title: GenMedieval
- Title: British History Online
- Title: Geni
- Title: Sussex Archaeological Collections relating to History & Antiquities of that County
- Title: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney or Quesney) in the Domeday Book of William the Conqueror ~https://opendomesday.org/ [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: https://opendomesday.org/;
Note: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney or Quesney) in the Domeday Book of William the Conqueror ~https://opendomesday.org/ [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Ralph de Cayneto (Cheney or Quesney) in the Domeday Book of William the Conqueror ~https://opendomesday.org/ [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Cheney Family in Dugdale’s the Baronage of England, pg. 289-290 [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Dugdale’s the Baronage of England, pg. 289-290
Note: Cheney Family in Dugdale’s the Baronage of England, pg. 289-290 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Cheney Family in Dugdale’s the Baronage of England, pg. 289-290 [See document in the Memories section]
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